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****OFFICIAL DYNASTY TRADES**** (15 Viewers)

Something pretty substantial I'd say.

I traded Mixon last season about 3-4 games in for a 23 1st round pick from a middling team that ended up 1.06. At the time, a draft pick that could been anywhere from 1.04 to 1.12 probably felt like fair value. Since then I think he's dropped in value significantly for me. Another year of inefficient volume isn't particularly exciting. I'd probably want a top 10 pick along with him to move from 1.03 and even then I'd need convincing.
 
Something pretty substantial I'd say.

I traded Mixon last season about 3-4 games in for a 23 1st round pick from a middling team that ended up 1.06. At the time, a draft pick that could been anywhere from 1.04 to 1.12 probably felt like fair value. Since then I think he's dropped in value significantly for me. Another year of inefficient volume isn't particularly exciting. I'd probably want a top 10 pick along with him to move from 1.03 and even then I'd need convincing.
Yeah I was gonna say a later 1st. Say pick 8 or 9
 
Superflex PPR
Team A gets 2023 1.12
Team B gets Mixon
I’d buy Mixon for that.

Not sure if I’d sell Mixon for that if I had him.

Fair deal.
I'm looking to sell Mixon in a 1 QB league (Have CMC, King Henry, Barkley, and Hall) so interesting to see. I want to get 1.03 for JSN this year with Mixon. What do you all think it would take to get there on top of Mixon in a 1 QB league? I think I'd need to get to around 1.8-1.09 for Mixon in SF to make the deal so fair but I'd not be a seller in this deal.
For reference, I sold Mixon to move up from 2.10 to 1.08. Also a RB crazy league, like yours. 12 team, 20 man, PPR, QRRWWFKD
 
Superflex PPR
Team A gets 2023 1.12
Team B gets Mixon
I’d buy Mixon for that.

Not sure if I’d sell Mixon for that if I had him.

Fair deal.
I'm looking to sell Mixon in a 1 QB league (Have CMC, King Henry, Barkley, and Hall) so interesting to see. I want to get 1.03 for JSN this year with Mixon. What do you all think it would take to get there on top of Mixon in a 1 QB league? I think I'd need to get to around 1.8-1.09 for Mixon in SF to make the deal so fair but I'd not be a seller in this deal.
For reference, I sold Mixon to move up from 2.10 to 1.08. Also a RB crazy league, like yours. 12 team, 20 man, PPR, QRRWWFKD
That trade you made probably puts Mixon value around pick 10 or 11
I could see both sides of doing 1.08 for 1.11 and 2.10
 
Superflex PPR
Team A gets 2023 1.12
Team B gets Mixon
I’d buy Mixon for that.

Not sure if I’d sell Mixon for that if I had him.

Fair deal.
I'm looking to sell Mixon in a 1 QB league (Have CMC, King Henry, Barkley, and Hall) so interesting to see. I want to get 1.03 for JSN this year with Mixon. What do you all think it would take to get there on top of Mixon in a 1 QB league? I think I'd need to get to around 1.8-1.09 for Mixon in SF to make the deal so fair but I'd not be a seller in this deal.
For reference, I sold Mixon to move up from 2.10 to 1.08. Also a RB crazy league, like yours. 12 team, 20 man, PPR, QRRWWFKD
That trade you made probably puts Mixon value around pick 10 or 11
I could see both sides of doing 1.08 for 1.11 and 2.10
Yeah. I'm definitely looking to win now, so I didn't want to sell a guy like Mixon who should have a season or two left in the tank. But after the whole gun incident ... No, he might not be in legal trouble or even disciplinary trouble, but if the thing actually occured the way it was described, just a serious character issue. When you consider that what he did (if true) was serious enough that it would have legally justified someone shooting him dead on the spot, it still feels like a pretty big deal.
 
FFPC, 1 QB
Just took over an orphan and made a few smaller moves. Solidified QB and moved some lesser inconsequential pieces for picks.

Overall gave: Kirk, Hunt, 2024 4th
Overall got: Trevor Lawrence, 2.10, 2024 2nd (likely early), 2024 2nd (likely early)
 
FFPC, 1 QB
Just took over an orphan and made a few smaller moves. Solidified QB and moved some lesser inconsequential pieces for picks.

Overall gave: Kirk, Hunt, 2024 4th
Overall got: Trevor Lawrence, 2.10, 2024 2nd (likely early), 2024 2nd (likely early)
You win. Not sure how you got three 2nds plus TLaw for just Kirk and Hunt (and a throw in 4th) but more power to ya.

ETA: corrected from 4 2nds to 3 2nds.
 
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FFPC, 1 QB
Just took over an orphan and made a few smaller moves. Solidified QB and moved some lesser inconsequential pieces for picks.

Overall gave: Kirk, Hunt, 2024 4th
Overall got: Trevor Lawrence, 2.10, 2024 2nd (likely early), 2024 2nd (likely early)
You win. Not sure how you got 4 2nds plus TLaw for just Kirk and Hunt (and a throw in 4th) but more power to ya.
It was TLaw and 3 x 2nds, but I feel both these guys are WW replaceable, especially with Ridley added to the mix in Jax.
 
FFPC standard.

Pick 1.06 and Deon Jackson.
For.
Trevor Lawrence and Cole Kmet
Don’t mind the value if the team receiving Lawrence and Kmet has the roster spots but I would have tried to wait until after cut downs even if you’re keeping guys with little value. You can always buy some others’ cuts at the deadline for cheap and then make this move directly following cut downs as well.
 
FFPC, 1 QB
Just took over an orphan and made a few smaller moves. Solidified QB and moved some lesser inconsequential pieces for picks.

Overall gave: Kirk, Hunt, 2024 4th
Overall got: Trevor Lawrence, 2.10, 2024 2nd (likely early), 2024 2nd (likely early)

Just a horrible Dynasty trade...awful...Lawrence has a chance to join that elite group of QBs and at worst should be right below them...you now don't have to worry about that position for a very long time...the fact this guy added in 3 #2's are grounds for a criminal investigation...I would not have even entertained this deal just for Lawrence...I like Kirk but he is not a guy I am targeting for Lawrence and Hunt is a good player but is basically a high-end throw in as he will be 28 in August...no clue what the other guy is trying to accomplish here...makes no sense.
 
FFPC standard.

Pick 1.06 and Deon Jackson.
For.
Trevor Lawrence and Cole Kmet

Pick in 1 QB easily for me. TLaw obviously took a major step forward after a disaster 1st year but unless it’s Mahomes I just don’t put a ton of value on QB’s in start 1QB leagues.
 
FFPC, 1 QB
Just took over an orphan and made a few smaller moves. Solidified QB and moved some lesser inconsequential pieces for picks.

Overall gave: Kirk, Hunt, 2024 4th
Overall got: Trevor Lawrence, 2.10, 2024 2nd (likely early), 2024 2nd (likely early)
Agree with others. You robbed them 👍
 
FFPC standard.

Pick 1.06 and Deon Jackson.
For.
Trevor Lawrence and Cole Kmet

I like the Lawrence side…you get a young stud QB who has a chance to be elite and allows you to go head-to-head with the Allens, Hurts and the Mahomes of the world as well as not having to worry about the QB position for a very long time…1.6 is a quality pick but in a non-SF draft there is nothing there this year that you can not figure out another way to get.
 
FFPC, 1 QB
Just took over an orphan and made a few smaller moves. Solidified QB and moved some lesser inconsequential pieces for picks.

Overall gave: Kirk, Hunt, 2024 4th
Overall got: Trevor Lawrence, 2.10, 2024 2nd (likely early), 2024 2nd (likely early)
What was the TLaw owner thinking? I get it’s 1-QB, but Hunt was a blank last season. And you got 2 early 2nds back too?

That’s nuts. Congrats.
 
FFPC Triflex Best Ball

This trade went down yesterday morning:

Team A received: Jonathan Taylor, 1.04
Team B received: Dalvin Cook, David Montgomery, '24 R2

The team that got JT and the 1.04 makes trades like this ALL THE TIME in this league. I don't know how. It's maddening, because the values here aren't even close. (The owner of this team has a large Twitter following and tweeted the trade details, and nearly every response was some version of "WTF?")

Another owner in the league went nuts and posted three times on the message board that the trade was basically BS. He urged others to email FFPC and protest the trade. (I chimed in on the message board that I thought the trade was severely lopsided but I didn't email to FFPC to protest.) In any case, FFPC received three protest emails. The commish said they use DLF's trade calculator, and if one side is greater than the other by more than a 2-to-1 margin, they reverse the trade. This one was 2.54-to-1, so they overturned it.

I've been in multiple FFPC dynasty leagues for years and have never seen a trade overturned before. I tend to believe that owners are free to run their teams as they see fit, and that includes making horrible trades. But in local leagues where I'm commissioner, I can also elect to replace those owners who hurt the league with repeated imbalanced trades. In FFPC, that's likely not an option. I'm not a huge fan of overturning trades, but, at the same time, this one immediately had me looking at my options for ditching this league, so I can't say I'm disappointed to see it overturned.

After that trade was overturned, the same two teams completed a revised version.

Team A received: Jonathan Taylor, 1.04
Team B received: Dalvin Cook, David Montgomery, 3.10, '24 R1 (from Team A)

The '24 R1 is sure to be late, because Team A has come in first and third the first two years of this league.

Still pretty lopsided, in my opinion. It's basically trading one elite asset and a potentially elite pick for a bunch of 2nds and a late 1st a year from now.

The team that had Taylor is very weak at QB (superflex), so I offered Geno and Pollard for JT. Maybe it wasn't the best offer (I'm prepared to be roasted), but I think it's close enough to get a conversation started. I sent it two days ago and never got a response.
 
FFPC Triflex Best Ball

This trade went down yesterday morning:

Team A received: Jonathan Taylor, 1.04
Team B received: Dalvin Cook, David Montgomery, '24 R2

The team that got JT and the 1.04 makes trades like this ALL THE TIME in this league. I don't know how. It's maddening, because the values here aren't even close. (The owner of this team has a large Twitter following and tweeted the trade details, and nearly every response was some version of "WTF?")

Another owner in the league went nuts and posted three times on the message board that the trade was basically BS. He urged others to email FFPC and protest the trade. (I chimed in on the message board that I thought the trade was severely lopsided but I didn't email to FFPC to protest.) In any case, FFPC received three protest emails. The commish said they use DLF's trade calculator, and if one side is greater than the other by more than a 2-to-1 margin, they reverse the trade. This one was 2.54-to-1, so they overturned it.

I've been in multiple FFPC dynasty leagues for years and have never seen a trade overturned before. I tend to believe that owners are free to run their teams as they see fit, and that includes making horrible trades. But in local leagues where I'm commissioner, I can also elect to replace those owners who hurt the league with repeated imbalanced trades. In FFPC, that's likely not an option. I'm not a huge fan of overturning trades, but, at the same time, this one immediately had me looking at my options for ditching this league, so I can't say I'm disappointed to see it overturned.

After that trade was overturned, the same two teams completed a revised version.

Team A received: Jonathan Taylor, 1.04
Team B received: Dalvin Cook, David Montgomery, 3.10, '24 R1 (from Team A)

The '24 R1 is sure to be late, because Team A has come in first and third the first two years of this league.

Still pretty lopsided, in my opinion. It's basically trading one elite asset and a potentially elite pick for a bunch of 2nds and a late 1st a year from now.

The team that had Taylor is very weak at QB (superflex), so I offered Geno and Pollard for JT. Maybe it wasn't the best offer (I'm prepared to be roasted), but I think it's close enough to get a conversation started. I sent it two days ago and never got a response.
So the other guy got Taylor for free?
 
After that trade was overturned, the same two teams completed a revised version.

Team A received: Jonathan Taylor, 1.04
Team B received: Dalvin Cook, David Montgomery, 3.10, '24 R1 (from Team A)

The '24 R1 is sure to be late, because Team A has come in first and third the first two years of this league.

Still pretty lopsided, in my opinion. It's basically trading one elite asset and a potentially elite pick for a bunch of 2nds and a late 1st a year from now.

The team that had Taylor is very weak at QB (superflex), so I offered Geno and Pollard for JT. Maybe it wasn't the best offer (I'm prepared to be roasted), but I think it's close enough to get a conversation started. I sent it two days ago and never got a response.
Be hard for me to not feel like something fishy was up when they are so committed to doing a one sided trade and not listening to other offers.
 
FFPC Triflex Best Ball

This trade went down yesterday morning:

Team A received: Jonathan Taylor, 1.04
Team B received: Dalvin Cook, David Montgomery, '24 R2

The team that got JT and the 1.04 makes trades like this ALL THE TIME in this league. I don't know how. It's maddening, because the values here aren't even close. (The owner of this team has a large Twitter following and tweeted the trade details, and nearly every response was some version of "WTF?")

Another owner in the league went nuts and posted three times on the message board that the trade was basically BS. He urged others to email FFPC and protest the trade. (I chimed in on the message board that I thought the trade was severely lopsided but I didn't email to FFPC to protest.) In any case, FFPC received three protest emails. The commish said they use DLF's trade calculator, and if one side is greater than the other by more than a 2-to-1 margin, they reverse the trade. This one was 2.54-to-1, so they overturned it.

I've been in multiple FFPC dynasty leagues for years and have never seen a trade overturned before. I tend to believe that owners are free to run their teams as they see fit, and that includes making horrible trades. But in local leagues where I'm commissioner, I can also elect to replace those owners who hurt the league with repeated imbalanced trades. In FFPC, that's likely not an option. I'm not a huge fan of overturning trades, but, at the same time, this one immediately had me looking at my options for ditching this league, so I can't say I'm disappointed to see it overturned.

After that trade was overturned, the same two teams completed a revised version.

Team A received: Jonathan Taylor, 1.04
Team B received: Dalvin Cook, David Montgomery, 3.10, '24 R1 (from Team A)

The '24 R1 is sure to be late, because Team A has come in first and third the first two years of this league.

Still pretty lopsided, in my opinion. It's basically trading one elite asset and a potentially elite pick for a bunch of 2nds and a late 1st a year from now.

The team that had Taylor is very weak at QB (superflex), so I offered Geno and Pollard for JT. Maybe it wasn't the best offer (I'm prepared to be roasted), but I think it's close enough to get a conversation started. I sent it two days ago and never got a response.

Yeah, I would be out of that league after that.
 
FFPC Triflex Best Ball

This trade went down yesterday morning:

Team A received: Jonathan Taylor, 1.04
Team B received: Dalvin Cook, David Montgomery, '24 R2

The team that got JT and the 1.04 makes trades like this ALL THE TIME in this league. I don't know how. It's maddening, because the values here aren't even close. (The owner of this team has a large Twitter following and tweeted the trade details, and nearly every response was some version of "WTF?")

Another owner in the league went nuts and posted three times on the message board that the trade was basically BS. He urged others to email FFPC and protest the trade. (I chimed in on the message board that I thought the trade was severely lopsided but I didn't email to FFPC to protest.) In any case, FFPC received three protest emails. The commish said they use DLF's trade calculator, and if one side is greater than the other by more than a 2-to-1 margin, they reverse the trade. This one was 2.54-to-1, so they overturned it.

I've been in multiple FFPC dynasty leagues for years and have never seen a trade overturned before. I tend to believe that owners are free to run their teams as they see fit, and that includes making horrible trades. But in local leagues where I'm commissioner, I can also elect to replace those owners who hurt the league with repeated imbalanced trades. In FFPC, that's likely not an option. I'm not a huge fan of overturning trades, but, at the same time, this one immediately had me looking at my options for ditching this league, so I can't say I'm disappointed to see it overturned.

After that trade was overturned, the same two teams completed a revised version.

Team A received: Jonathan Taylor, 1.04
Team B received: Dalvin Cook, David Montgomery, 3.10, '24 R1 (from Team A)

The '24 R1 is sure to be late, because Team A has come in first and third the first two years of this league.

Still pretty lopsided, in my opinion. It's basically trading one elite asset and a potentially elite pick for a bunch of 2nds and a late 1st a year from now.

The team that had Taylor is very weak at QB (superflex), so I offered Geno and Pollard for JT. Maybe it wasn't the best offer (I'm prepared to be roasted), but I think it's close enough to get a conversation started. I sent it two days ago and never got a response.
Still bloody awful.
 
People throwing around 24 1sts in one of my 14 team SF leagues - not involved. Same team getting the 24 1sts.

Team A receives: 2024 1st
Team B receives: T Pollard, 2023 4.13, 2024 4th

Team A receives: B Cooks, 2024 1st, 2024 3rd
Team C receives: J Dotson, 2023 2.03
 
People throwing around 24 1sts in one of my 14 team SF leagues - not involved. Same team getting the 24 1sts.

Team A receives: 2024 1st
Team B receives: T Pollard, 2023 4.13, 2024 4th

Team A receives: B Cooks, 2024 1st, 2024 3rd
Team C receives: J Dotson, 2023 2.03
Come 2024 I think the person getting the picks will be happy with their move.
 
People throwing around 24 1sts in one of my 14 team SF leagues - not involved. Same team getting the 24 1sts.

Team A receives: 2024 1st
Team B receives: T Pollard, 2023 4.13, 2024 4th

Team A receives: B Cooks, 2024 1st, 2024 3rd
Team C receives: J Dotson, 2023 2.03
Come 2024 I think the person getting the picks will be happy with their move.
My thoughts exactly. Lots can change in a year but most people view their own picks as late.
Same league, I posted a trade where one manager traded his 24 1st for Purdy - has Lance, so essentially locking up 49ers QB - valuing the pick as mid-late, but he earned the 1.01
 
FFPC Rotoviz SF Tri Flex

Tua obviously really risky and feel im giving swift and moore away too cheap, but I got nuthin at qb (R Wilson) and I want room for new blood across the board. My only SF team and just a disaster of a 2yr old team I drafted and now cleaning house.

Gave
Moore, DJ
Swift, D'Andre
2023 1.06

Got
Tagovailoa, Tua
2023 1.05
2023 2.05
2023 3.05
2024 R2
 
FFPC Rotoviz SF Tri Flex

Tua obviously really risky and feel im giving swift and moore away too cheap, but I got nuthin at qb (R Wilson) and I want room for new blood across the board. My only SF team and just a disaster of a 2yr old team I drafted and now cleaning house.

Gave
Moore, DJ
Swift, D'Andre
2023 1.06

Got
Tagovailoa, Tua
2023 1.05
2023 2.05
2023 3.05
2024 R2
I'm very weary of Tua, as those concussions are a huge concern for his career longevity, but I think you did well in this deal. You move up 1 spot in 2023 1st, and get back a 2.05, which should be a valuable pick with the RB & TE depth in this draft. Name-value you gave up a lot, but Swift is almost impossible to sell - I've been trying to unload him since I took over a team in a 16 team league.

So yeah - I don't mind this trade. Risky with Tua, but it's not like Swift is without risk, and you should land 2 very good players with the 1.05 & 2.05. If you come away with Gibbs or the WR1 of this class, or even one of the boom or bust QBs, it should work out well for you.
 
FFPC Rotoviz SF Tri Flex

Tua obviously really risky and feel im giving swift and moore away too cheap, but I got nuthin at qb (R Wilson) and I want room for new blood across the board. My only SF team and just a disaster of a 2yr old team I drafted and now cleaning house.

Gave
Moore, DJ
Swift, D'Andre
2023 1.06

Got
Tagovailoa, Tua
2023 1.05
2023 2.05
2023 3.05
2024 R2
In superflex, I don't see a ton of difference between pick 1.05 and 1.06. Most calcs value the difference at less than 10%. The 3.05 is a dart throw. So it really comes down to 2.05 and a 24 Rd 2 for Swift and Moore. On first flush, that seems kinda light to me. I know I personally wouldn't move either moore or swift for a single 2nd round pick.
 
FFPC Rotoviz SF Tri Flex

Tua obviously really risky and feel im giving swift and moore away too cheap, but I got nuthin at qb (R Wilson) and I want room for new blood across the board. My only SF team and just a disaster of a 2yr old team I drafted and now cleaning house.

Gave
Moore, DJ
Swift, D'Andre
2023 1.06

Got
Tagovailoa, Tua
2023 1.05
2023 2.05
2023 3.05
2024 R2
In superflex, I don't see a ton of difference between pick 1.05 and 1.06. Most calcs value the difference at less than 10%. The 3.05 is a dart throw. So it really comes down to 2.05 and a 24 Rd 2 for Swift and Moore. On first flush, that seems kinda light to me. I know I personally wouldn't move either moore or swift for a single 2nd round pick.
While I agree with this, Swift is closer to impossible to trade than he is to being valuable.

I've been trying since before the 2022 season (when there was some optimism that he'd finally have a healthy/breakout season) and even after his monster week 1 game. In a 16 team league where some teams are a barren wasteland at RB, I couldn't get a single nibble. When I put out modest offers, they were rejected with no counter.

Of course in my other dynasty league, the Swift owner still looks at him like :wub: and wants the moon and the stars for him, so I'm double hosed. Can neither sell, nor buy low on the dude. :wall:
 
FFPC Rotoviz SF Tri Flex

Tua obviously really risky and feel im giving swift and moore away too cheap, but I got nuthin at qb (R Wilson) and I want room for new blood across the board. My only SF team and just a disaster of a 2yr old team I drafted and now cleaning house.

Gave
Moore, DJ
Swift, D'Andre
2023 1.06

Got
Tagovailoa, Tua
2023 1.05
2023 2.05
2023 3.05
2024 R2
In superflex, I don't see a ton of difference between pick 1.05 and 1.06.

It only takes one of Richardson or Levis to have an amazing combine/landing spot and appreciate in value. Right now I've got it as Bijan >> Stroud/Young >>>>> Gibbs >>>>> Richardson/tier 1 WR's/Levis in that order. Assuming none of the top 3 have a complete collapse, it is not at all a long shot that 1.05 is on the right side of a tier break and 1.06 the wrong side.

Of course, you could end up being right if both QB's rise quickly, JSN/Johnston/Addison end up at Buffalo, KC, LAC etc and become immediately relevant, someone like Charbonnet or anyone else from that RB3 down cluster gets a Pierce-like boost, or anything else that extends that post top 3 tier to three players. As of right now I've got the 1.04 in SF and want to move, but would be very wary of moving down more than one spot
 
FFPC Rotoviz SF Tri Flex

Tua obviously really risky and feel im giving swift and moore away too cheap, but I got nuthin at qb (R Wilson) and I want room for new blood across the board. My only SF team and just a disaster of a 2yr old team I drafted and now cleaning house.

Gave
Moore, DJ
Swift, D'Andre
2023 1.06

Got
Tagovailoa, Tua
2023 1.05
2023 2.05
2023 3.05
2024 R2
In superflex, I don't see a ton of difference between pick 1.05 and 1.06. Most calcs value the difference at less than 10%. The 3.05 is a dart throw. So it really comes down to 2.05 and a 24 Rd 2 for Swift and Moore. On first flush, that seems kinda light to me. I know I personally wouldn't move either moore or swift for a single 2nd round pick.
Appreciate the feedback, as I said I am certainly squeamish about the whole thing. I didn't do the deal to move from 1.6 to 1.5, that was more of a throw in. The bump doesn't have a ton of value, but it still has value. The 3.5 is a dart throw for sure, but I am blowing things up and its another player I can carry through summer. I think you inadvertently left out Tua, so for me (and my rebuild) it comes down to Tua, a bump to 1.5, 2.5, 3.5, extra roster spot and a future 2 for Moore & Swift. I love Moore and Swift, but felt it was time to shake it up. All good, tx.
 
FFPC Rotoviz SF Tri Flex

Tua obviously really risky and feel im giving swift and moore away too cheap, but I got nuthin at qb (R Wilson) and I want room for new blood across the board. My only SF team and just a disaster of a 2yr old team I drafted and now cleaning house.

Gave
Moore, DJ
Swift, D'Andre
2023 1.06

Got
Tagovailoa, Tua
2023 1.05
2023 2.05
2023 3.05
2024 R2
In superflex, I don't see a ton of difference between pick 1.05 and 1.06. Most calcs value the difference at less than 10%. The 3.05 is a dart throw. So it really comes down to 2.05 and a 24 Rd 2 for Swift and Moore. On first flush, that seems kinda light to me. I know I personally wouldn't move either moore or swift for a single 2nd round pick.
While I agree with this, Swift is closer to impossible to trade than he is to being valuable.

I've been trying since before the 2022 season (when there was some optimism that he'd finally have a healthy/breakout season) and even after his monster week 1 game. In a 16 team league where some teams are a barren wasteland at RB, I couldn't get a single nibble. When I put out modest offers, they were rejected with no counter.

Of course in my other dynasty league, the Swift owner still looks at him like :wub: and wants the moon and the stars for him, so I'm double hosed. Can neither sell, nor buy low on the dude. :wall:
Well since you brought up Swift, I just now traded him again. FFPC, contending team, trade partner here is same team I earlier traded with 2 pages ago to get Hurts\Diggs and then later for Waller. Going to have to add it all up.

Gave
Swift, D'Andre
2023 4.12

Got
2.12
2024 R1
2024 R3

I have definitely improved his roster with the players I have given him in the 3 deals, but I still think the future 1st has potential to be nice.

So the 3 deals in total turn out to be:

Gave
Cooper Amari, Chubb, Moore DJ, Murray Kyler, Swift, 3.03, 4.12

Got
Diggs Stefon, Hurts Jalen, Waller, 2.10, 2.12, 3.11, 2024 1st & 3rd

Final roster
Hurts
Kenneth Walker, Josh Jacobs, Damien Harris, James Cook, Pierre Strong
Diggs, Metcalf, Waddle, Kirk, Isaiah Hodgins
Waller, Freiermuth, Engram, Likely

Don't think I slammed it, but I'm happy with end result, for now anyway.....
 
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Got
2.12
2024 R1
2024 R3
I would take that for Swift in an instant. If only someone in my league valued him.
I would definitely not. Of course, that's in my ppr league, whereas the OP is in standard. So that makes it a lot more palatable, but still not close. Call me a crazy Swifter but I still believe. Although the "but he still has so much time left!" rationale is starting to slip away ...
 
Got
2.12
2024 R1
2024 R3
I would take that for Swift in an instant. If only someone in my league valued him.
I would definitely not. Of course, that's in my ppr league, whereas the OP is in standard. So that makes it a lot more palatable, but still not close. Call me a crazy Swifter but I still believe. Although the "but he still has so much time left!" rationale is starting to slip away ...
The league I have him is PPR as well. I updated my OTB with him 48 hours ago - 15 other managers haven't so much as inquired about price, much less made an offer.

I'd be thrilled to get a 1st and a 2nd for him.

At this point I'm a hold by lack of better options. Praying for a season where he's productive so I can move him. Unfortunately first we have to dodge a bullet in the draft. If they pick a Charbonet, that whistling sound we hear will be Swift's trade value plummeting.

Could he end up being a top 12 FF RB? Possible. For now he's a better NFL player than he is a FF player. He's still just 24, but at the moment that's about all he has going for him besides the obvious talent. But with a team that seemingly doesn't want to utilize him much, I'm not sure how that's going to play out.
 
Got
2.12
2024 R1
2024 R3
I would take that for Swift in an instant. If only someone in my league valued him.
I would definitely not. Of course, that's in my ppr league, whereas the OP is in standard. So that makes it a lot more palatable, but still not close. Call me a crazy Swifter but I still believe. Although the "but he still has so much time left!" rationale is starting to slip away ...
Std was meant to indicate non sf since my prior trade was sf. I thought all the FFPC leagues were ppr. I have since edited.
 
Got
2.12
2024 R1
2024 R3
I would take that for Swift in an instant. If only someone in my league valued him.
I would definitely not. Of course, that's in my ppr league, whereas the OP is in standard. So that makes it a lot more palatable, but still not close. Call me a crazy Swifter but I still believe. Although the "but he still has so much time left!" rationale is starting to slip away ...
The league I have him is PPR as well. I updated my OTB with him 48 hours ago - 15 other managers haven't so much as inquired about price, much less made an offer.

I'd be thrilled to get a 1st and a 2nd for him.

At this point I'm a hold by lack of better options. Praying for a season where he's productive so I can move him. Unfortunately first we have to dodge a bullet in the draft. If they pick a Charbonet, that whistling sound we hear will be Swift's trade value plummeting.

Could he end up being a top 12 FF RB? Possible. For now he's a better NFL player than he is a FF player. He's still just 24, but at the moment that's about all he has going for him besides the obvious talent. But with a team that seemingly doesn't want to utilize him much, I'm not sure how that's going to play out.
Your take is probably more rational, and I may be holding on tighter due to emotional rather than logical reasons. My particularly hopeful thought is that lingering injuries were the main reason for the restricted usage last year. If he could just stay healthy, his upside is huge -- I know, big "if", but it's entirely possible that the injuries in his first three years were a fluke. He just looks so good with the ball in his hands.
 
Got
2.12
2024 R1
2024 R3
I would take that for Swift in an instant. If only someone in my league valued him.
I would definitely not. Of course, that's in my ppr league, whereas the OP is in standard. So that makes it a lot more palatable, but still not close. Call me a crazy Swifter but I still believe. Although the "but he still has so much time left!" rationale is starting to slip away ...
Std was meant to indicate non sf since my prior trade was sf. I thought all the FFPC leagues were ppr. I have since edited.
My bad. I don't know anything about FFPC specifically.
 
Got
2.12
2024 R1
2024 R3
I would take that for Swift in an instant. If only someone in my league valued him.
I would definitely not. Of course, that's in my ppr league, whereas the OP is in standard. So that makes it a lot more palatable, but still not close. Call me a crazy Swifter but I still believe. Although the "but he still has so much time left!" rationale is starting to slip away ...
The league I have him is PPR as well. I updated my OTB with him 48 hours ago - 15 other managers haven't so much as inquired about price, much less made an offer.

I'd be thrilled to get a 1st and a 2nd for him.

At this point I'm a hold by lack of better options. Praying for a season where he's productive so I can move him. Unfortunately first we have to dodge a bullet in the draft. If they pick a Charbonet, that whistling sound we hear will be Swift's trade value plummeting.

Could he end up being a top 12 FF RB? Possible. For now he's a better NFL player than he is a FF player. He's still just 24, but at the moment that's about all he has going for him besides the obvious talent. But with a team that seemingly doesn't want to utilize him much, I'm not sure how that's going to play out.
Your take is probably more rational, and I may be holding on tighter due to emotional rather than logical reasons. My particularly hopeful thought is that lingering injuries were the main reason for the restricted usage last year. If he could just stay healthy, his upside is huge -- I know, big "if", but it's entirely possible that the injuries in his first three years were a fluke. He just looks so good with the ball in his hands.
He’s actually played 40 of a possible 50 NFL games for his career.

I was a bit surprised by that, given everyone’s negative view of hm being injury prone.
 
Got
2.12
2024 R1
2024 R3
I would take that for Swift in an instant. If only someone in my league valued him.
I would definitely not. Of course, that's in my ppr league, whereas the OP is in standard. So that makes it a lot more palatable, but still not close. Call me a crazy Swifter but I still believe. Although the "but he still has so much time left!" rationale is starting to slip away ...
The league I have him is PPR as well. I updated my OTB with him 48 hours ago - 15 other managers haven't so much as inquired about price, much less made an offer.

I'd be thrilled to get a 1st and a 2nd for him.

At this point I'm a hold by lack of better options. Praying for a season where he's productive so I can move him. Unfortunately first we have to dodge a bullet in the draft. If they pick a Charbonet, that whistling sound we hear will be Swift's trade value plummeting.

Could he end up being a top 12 FF RB? Possible. For now he's a better NFL player than he is a FF player. He's still just 24, but at the moment that's about all he has going for him besides the obvious talent. But with a team that seemingly doesn't want to utilize him much, I'm not sure how that's going to play out.
Your take is probably more rational, and I may be holding on tighter due to emotional rather than logical reasons. My particularly hopeful thought is that lingering injuries were the main reason for the restricted usage last year. If he could just stay healthy, his upside is huge -- I know, big "if", but it's entirely possible that the injuries in his first three years were a fluke. He just looks so good with the ball in his hands.
He’s actually played 40 of a possible 50 NFL games for his career.

I was a bit surprised by that, given everyone’s negative view of hm being injury prone.
This is true. But he's also probably been questionable 30 of those 40 lol. Exaggeration (I think 🤔).
 
Got
2.12
2024 R1
2024 R3
I would take that for Swift in an instant. If only someone in my league valued him.
I would definitely not. Of course, that's in my ppr league, whereas the OP is in standard. So that makes it a lot more palatable, but still not close. Call me a crazy Swifter but I still believe. Although the "but he still has so much time left!" rationale is starting to slip away ...
The league I have him is PPR as well. I updated my OTB with him 48 hours ago - 15 other managers haven't so much as inquired about price, much less made an offer.

I'd be thrilled to get a 1st and a 2nd for him.

At this point I'm a hold by lack of better options. Praying for a season where he's productive so I can move him. Unfortunately first we have to dodge a bullet in the draft. If they pick a Charbonet, that whistling sound we hear will be Swift's trade value plummeting.

Could he end up being a top 12 FF RB? Possible. For now he's a better NFL player than he is a FF player. He's still just 24, but at the moment that's about all he has going for him besides the obvious talent. But with a team that seemingly doesn't want to utilize him much, I'm not sure how that's going to play out.
Your take is probably more rational, and I may be holding on tighter due to emotional rather than logical reasons. My particularly hopeful thought is that lingering injuries were the main reason for the restricted usage last year. If he could just stay healthy, his upside is huge -- I know, big "if", but it's entirely possible that the injuries in his first three years were a fluke. He just looks so good with the ball in his hands.
He misses time but he’s very productive when he plays and his talent is there (imo).

If I was looking to rebuild I may take that offer but otherwise I’m with you.
 
Got
2.12
2024 R1
2024 R3
I would take that for Swift in an instant. If only someone in my league valued him.
I would definitely not. Of course, that's in my ppr league, whereas the OP is in standard. So that makes it a lot more palatable, but still not close. Call me a crazy Swifter but I still believe. Although the "but he still has so much time left!" rationale is starting to slip away ...
The league I have him is PPR as well. I updated my OTB with him 48 hours ago - 15 other managers haven't so much as inquired about price, much less made an offer.

I'd be thrilled to get a 1st and a 2nd for him.

At this point I'm a hold by lack of better options. Praying for a season where he's productive so I can move him. Unfortunately first we have to dodge a bullet in the draft. If they pick a Charbonet, that whistling sound we hear will be Swift's trade value plummeting.

Could he end up being a top 12 FF RB? Possible. For now he's a better NFL player than he is a FF player. He's still just 24, but at the moment that's about all he has going for him besides the obvious talent. But with a team that seemingly doesn't want to utilize him much, I'm not sure how that's going to play out.
Your take is probably more rational, and I may be holding on tighter due to emotional rather than logical reasons. My particularly hopeful thought is that lingering injuries were the main reason for the restricted usage last year. If he could just stay healthy, his upside is huge -- I know, big "if", but it's entirely possible that the injuries in his first three years were a fluke. He just looks so good with the ball in his hands.
He’s actually played 40 of a possible 50 NFL games for his career.

I was a bit surprised by that, given everyone’s negative view of hm being injury prone.
Those people will say he’s always “banged up” and always questionable - which is true - but he does usually tough it out. What killed him the most this year was Williams. Not sure he’s going anywhere but even if he comes back he’s be due for some TD regression.
 
FFPC Triflex Best Ball

This trade went down yesterday morning:

Team A received: Jonathan Taylor, 1.04
Team B received: Dalvin Cook, David Montgomery, '24 R2

The team that got JT and the 1.04 makes trades like this ALL THE TIME in this league. I don't know how. It's maddening, because the values here aren't even close. (The owner of this team has a large Twitter following and tweeted the trade details, and nearly every response was some version of "WTF?")

Another owner in the league went nuts and posted three times on the message board that the trade was basically BS. He urged others to email FFPC and protest the trade. (I chimed in on the message board that I thought the trade was severely lopsided but I didn't email to FFPC to protest.) In any case, FFPC received three protest emails. The commish said they use DLF's trade calculator, and if one side is greater than the other by more than a 2-to-1 margin, they reverse the trade. This one was 2.54-to-1, so they overturned it.

I've been in multiple FFPC dynasty leagues for years and have never seen a trade overturned before. I tend to believe that owners are free to run their teams as they see fit, and that includes making horrible trades. But in local leagues where I'm commissioner, I can also elect to replace those owners who hurt the league with repeated imbalanced trades. In FFPC, that's likely not an option. I'm not a huge fan of overturning trades, but, at the same time, this one immediately had me looking at my options for ditching this league, so I can't say I'm disappointed to see it overturned.

After that trade was overturned, the same two teams completed a revised version.

Team A received: Jonathan Taylor, 1.04
Team B received: Dalvin Cook, David Montgomery, 3.10, '24 R1 (from Team A)

The '24 R1 is sure to be late, because Team A has come in first and third the first two years of this league.

Still pretty lopsided, in my opinion. It's basically trading one elite asset and a potentially elite pick for a bunch of 2nds and a late 1st a year from now.

The team that had Taylor is very weak at QB (superflex), so I offered Geno and Pollard for JT. Maybe it wasn't the best offer (I'm prepared to be roasted), but I think it's close enough to get a conversation started. I sent it two days ago and never got a response.
This is better than the first but not by much. Just terrible value for JT/1.04 as by far the best 2 assets in the draft. Like that might not be enough for JT alone. Not a fan of your offer for JT in a 1 QB trade either but could hve got the talk started.
 
People throwing around 24 1sts in one of my 14 team SF leagues - not involved. Same team getting the 24 1sts.

Team A receives: 2024 1st
Team B receives: T Pollard, 2023 4.13, 2024 4th

Team A receives: B Cooks, 2024 1st, 2024 3rd
Team C receives: J Dotson, 2023 2.03
I don't like either of these trades. I would take the 1sts every day of the week. Nothing in those trades excite me outside of that. Not crazy unfair but I lean towards Team A on both.
 
FFPC Rotoviz SF Tri Flex

Tua obviously really risky and feel im giving swift and moore away too cheap, but I got nuthin at qb (R Wilson) and I want room for new blood across the board. My only SF team and just a disaster of a 2yr old team I drafted and now cleaning house.

Gave
Moore, DJ
Swift, D'Andre
2023 1.06

Got
Tagovailoa, Tua
2023 1.05
2023 2.05
2023 3.05
2024 R2
This isn't terrible but I feel that Moore/Swift should have got you back a 24 1st instead of that 2nd but I don't blame you for making the move personally. I'm not huge on Moore, Swift can't stay on the field, and you moved up in the draft. QBs are gold in SF so this seems ok.
 
12 team, 1 QB, PPR

Palmer/Gainwell

For

2.03

Interesting trade, I love these type of deals...2.3 is a solid pick this year...you will be able to get a quality player there this year...if you need a QB or a TE there could be a good one at 2.3 and with the depth at RB there will be an intriguing prospect there...on the other side Gainwell is not someone who I have any interest in...just don't feel he will ever be fantasy relevant...the x-factor here is Palmer...he had a nice jump from his rookie year to his second year and is playing with a very good QB...the question is can he make another jump to be more than just a JAG in fantasy...the Chargers have a lot going on this offseason and there is a definite path to him turning into a solid player...that being said I don't think his ceiling is real high even in a best case scenario, I feel like he will be a better real player than fantasy player...due to that I would like that second piece to have more upside than Gainwell because ultimately I look at this as Palmer for 2.3...give me the 2.3...I think there is a ton more upside with that pick and if you miss I don't think you will be burned by what you gave up.
 
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12 team, 1 QB, PPR

Palmer/Gainwell

For

2.03

Interesting trade, I love these type of deals...2.3 is a solid pick this year...you will be able to get a quality player there this year...if you need a QB or a TE there could be a good one at 2.3 and with the depth at RB there will be an intriguing prospect there...on the other side Gainwell is not someone who I have any interest...just don't feel he will ever be fantasy relevant...the x-factor here is Palmer...he had a nice jump from his rookie year to his second year and is playing with a very good QB...the question is can he make another jump to be more than just a JAG in fantasy...the Chargers have a lot going on this offseason and there is a definite path to him turning into a solid player...that being said I don't think his ceiling is real high even in a best case scenario, I feel like he will be a better real player than fantasy player...due to that I would like that second piece to have more upside than Gainwell because ultimately I look at this as Palmer for 2.3...give me the 2.3...I think there is a ton more upside with that pick and if you miss I don't think you will be burned by what you gave up.
Those were my thoughts as well. Plus, I like the liquidity going into this draft to move around and get “my guys”. If Allen moves on, I could get burnt though.
 

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