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FFPC 1QB
I gave Sermon, 2023 2nd
I got Burrow
Paired with Chase now and my goodness that is one less Sermon share.
Were there compromising photos of spouses involved here somehow?
FFPC 1QB
I gave Sermon, 2023 2nd
I got Burrow
Paired with Chase now and my goodness that is one less Sermon share.
Daniel Jones was my QB1 before this.Basically a second and peanuts for Burrow is a good price but adding in fun of the hookup and I'd be doing this kind of deal all day so long as I had need or room for a QB.
Tyreek side, by quite a bit.FFPC SF
I gave Gabriel Davis, Claypool, Hubbard, 1.07, 2023 1st
I got Tyreek, 1.02
This is one of my better teams and I am too deep. 2 roster spots cleared here. Oh and this felt good.
FFPC 1QB
I gave Sermon, 2023 2nd
I got Burrow
Paired with Chase now and my goodness that is one less Sermon share.
FFPC SF
I gave Gabriel Davis, Claypool, Hubbard, 1.07, 2023 1st
I got Tyreek, 1.02
This is one of my better teams and I am too deep. 2 roster spots cleared here. Oh and this felt good.
Don't offer me this deal in shark pool league lolFFPC 1QB
I gave Sermon, 2023 2nd
I got Burrow
Paired with Chase now and my goodness that is one less Sermon share.
Maybe I’m crazy but gimme Barkley & the picks.FFPC (Not involved)
Team A gives: D.Swift
Team B gives: S.Barkley, 2.02 & 2.11
12 team ppr - QB/2RB/3WR/TE/FL
Team A gave up
Team B gave up
- Davis, Gabriel BUF WR;
- 3.10 - 2022
- Vaughn, Ke'Shawn TBB RB;
- Collins, Nico HOU WR;
- 2.07 - 2022
Yes - I was one of those shading Davis a bit (based on his first round trade value), but I accepted this offer because I think Davis has the most upside in the deal by far. I'm still not 100% sold on Davis, but the upside playing with Allen is real - lets see if it comes to fruition.Absolute steal for Davis...whether the playoff game is a sign of things to come is still up for debate but there is zero doubt there is a path to him being a very good fantasy WR
Welcome to the Davis shareholder’s club. And nice price foe the acquisition, too. I’m not sure Vaughn will be anything in the NFL, and while I like Nico, I like Davis’ potential situation more. The picks are meh.Yes - I was one of those shading Davis a bit (based on his first round trade value), but I accepted this offer because I think Davis has the most upside in the deal by far. I'm still not 100% sold on Davis, but the upside playing with Allen is real - lets see if it comes to fruition.
My one hesitation is if TB decides to rebuild post Brady they may just stick with Vaughn for the season as their main RB. Ronnie Jones is an UFA and I believe Fournette was only on a one year deal. I could use RB depth there. However, even adding a later round RB in the draft could potentially make Vaughn obsolete as they don't seem to have much faith in him in Tampa.Welcome to the Davis shareholder’s club. And nice price foe the acquisition, too. I’m not sure Vaughn will be anything in the NFL, and while I like Nico, I like Davis’ potential situation more. The picks are meh.
I haven’t seen anything impressive from him yet. Small sample size I resize.My one hesitation is if TB decides to rebuild post Brady they may just stick with Vaughn for the season as their main RB. Ronnie Jones is an UFA and I believe Fournette was only on a one year deal. I could use RB depth there. However, even adding a later round RB in the draft could potentially make Vaughn obsolete as they don't seem to have much faith in him in Tampa.
Not horrible but I'd have kept Swift.FFPC (Not involved)
Team A gives: D.Swift
Team B gives: S.Barkley, 2.02 & 2.11
Even if you aren’t high on him I bet you could flip him for more than you gave up or package him with someone else or a pick as part of a bigger deal…there is no downside with what you gave up.Yes - I was one of those shading Davis a bit (based on his first round trade value), but I accepted this offer because I think Davis has the most upside in the deal by far. I'm still not 100% sold on Davis, but the upside playing with Allen is real - lets see if it comes to fruition.
Me too, I'll take the chance on Barkley and pray lol.Maybe I’m crazy but gimme Barkley & the picks.
I like the front office moves NY has made this offseason a lot. DET is on the rise, but Barkley still has a chance to be an elite FF option.Me too, I'll take the chance on Barkley and pray lol.
Heck, I'd take a healthy Barkley over Swift easily, the risk is injury but also that he's lost a massive step as looked to be the case last year. If he's back to his first season talent and can stay on the field he could be the #1 RB for multiple season. If lol.I like the front office moves NY has made this offseason a lot. DET is on the rise, but Barkley still has a chance to be an elite FF option.
both players have been bit by the injury bug. I’d like to see Barkley a full year+ removed from his injury.
It’s not a wide chasm between the two, so this probably boils down to personal preference. I concede I may be making the wrong choice.
I'm in a 1QB and have Herbert and Dak. I have Dak and Burrow as pretty close fantasy-wise. If someone offered me Sermon and a 2nd for him I'd be posting about it in a different thread in the SP. Well done sir.FFPC 1QB
I gave Sermon, 2023 2nd
I got Burrow
Paired with Chase now and my goodness that is one less Sermon share.
I'm out on Barkley, just too much risk. He's uber-talented, but between injury history, crappy team, crappy QB, new coach, so much could happen that would just continue to derail him. He's one of my "let him be someone else's headache" type guysFFPC (Not involved)
Team A gives: D.Swift
Team B gives: S.Barkley, 2.02 & 2.11
How in the hell did you manage to get the 1.02 added into this? You're on a roll dude, I dunno how many leagues you're in but you should have feelers out in all of them right now, ride the streak!FFPC SF
I gave Gabriel Davis, Claypool, Hubbard, 1.07, 2023 1st
I got Tyreek, 1.02
This is one of my better teams and I am too deep. 2 roster spots cleared here. Oh and this felt good.
Not involved but saw this trade which made no sense go down other day in FFPC:
Team A was the second worst team in the league last year on points, third worst in VP's.
Team B is b2b league winner.
They swapped out first and second round picks in the 2023 draft so Team A, the bad team, could acquire soon to be 31 year old FA Cordarelle Patterson.
I actually prefer the Moore side.Same league, different teams make this trade yesterday, FFPC, standard:
Rebuilding team acquires: Godwin, D Henderson, 3.2
Contending team acquires: Elijah Moore, 4.12
My guess is most prefer the Godwin side but when I saw this go down my reaction was meh.
What I just saw was one team is absolutely flipping out right now over the rebuilding team getting Godwin for that price. Meanwhile, not a peep about one of best teams in the league turning their likely late 2023 #1 and #2 into very likely high picks for Cordarelle Patterson(who I just found people are outright cutting in some leagues). This league has been around since 2012 but it's pretty dead and messages on league site are rare-have gone an entire season without one. Just odd to me the Godwin trade is what it took to set someone off, but not a trade which is far more likely to impact the championship races.
This is just robbery. Like this should have been Hill and maybe 2.2 in a down draft to be fair. How does this person include 1.2 in this trade. I hope you gave him the reach around.FFPC SF
I gave Gabriel Davis, Claypool, Hubbard, 1.07, 2023 1st
I got Tyreek, 1.02
This is one of my better teams and I am too deep. 2 roster spots cleared here. Oh and this felt good.
I'd take the chance on Barkley bouncing back with those picks involved. Probably relatively fair in trade calculators but I'm on record of doubting Swift a bit with his injury history.FFPC (Not involved)
Team A gives: D.Swift
Team B gives: S.Barkley, 2.02 & 2.11
At the very least, a fruit basket would seem to be in order. Something nice, one of those ones with a bottle of wine in it.This is just robbery. Like this should have been Hill and maybe 2.2 in a down draft to be fair. How does this person include 1.2 in this trade. I hope you gave him the reach around.
as opposed to Barley's iron man status?I'd take the chance on Barkley bouncing back with those picks involved. Probably relatively fair in trade calculators but I'm on record of doubting Swift a bit with his injury history.
To his defense, Swift's injury history goes back to his Georgia days and has continued in the NFL. As far as I know Barkley only has this one serous injury. Swift was always dinged at Georgia even though he didn't miss a lot of games. Now he still seems to be fragile in the NFL. Who knows, maybe that will disappear going forward, but one has to take notice of it.as opposed to Barley's iron man status?
Ok so this one is worth explaining a bit.How in the hell did you manage to get the 1.02 added into this? You're on a roll dude, I dunno how many leagues you're in but you should have feelers out in all of them right now, ride the streak!
You may want to double check on that.To his defense, Swift's injury history goes back to his Georgia days and has continued in the NFL. As far as I know Barkley only has this one serous injury. Swift was always dinged at Georgia even though he didn't miss a lot of games. Now he still seems to be fragile in the NFL. Who knows, maybe that will disappear going forward, but one has to take notice of it.
I'm always the guy that hates the "who won this trade" type speculation. Everyone is so focused on having to win the trade when the goal is to improve your team, however necessary.Ok so this one is worth explaining a bit.
I see an email offer of Claypool and Davis and my future 1st for Tyreek. I know it sounds crazy but I didn't want to spend my 1st (trying to avoid spending many 2023 1sts this cycle) even though the offer was still pretty dang good for Tyreek.
But ran into an ethical concern when I went to the team page on ffpc and saw there was an earlier offer of just Davis and my 1st for Tyreek. No Claypool. I took the high road and didn't accept that one since it sure seemed like it was in error. Told him so and then countered the Claypool one with GD, CC and my 2023 2nd.
He counters with my 2023 1st again and he adds a couple 4ths to come back to me. I reject without a note and leave it be.
He sends me the one for my 2023 1st plus my 1.07 for his 1.02. I paid the deposit and snapped it.
Barkley has missed 23 out of a possible 64 games (35%)To his defense, Swift's injury history goes back to his Georgia days and has continued in the NFL. As far as I know Barkley only has this one serous injury. Swift was always dinged at Georgia even though he didn't miss a lot of games. Now he still seems to be fragile in the NFL. Who knows, maybe that will disappear going forward, but one has to take notice of it.
Yeah I didn't see that one coming.But damn you won the hell out of this one. And even sweeter that it was his idea.
Before 2020, where he missed 14 of 16 games, going down in week 2, he only missed 3 games in 2019 and 4 in 2021 (post surgery). My point is not how many games either has missed, but that Swift is always dinged, dating back to Georgia and that has continued in the NFL. Which seems more consistent with fragile than someone who tore his ACL one year.Barkley has missed 23 out of a possible 64 games (35%)
Swift has missed 6 out of a possible 32 games (18%)
Swift had two seasons where he missed 3 games each. So did Barkley (and in one of them he played through a HAS and was terrible) - plus a season where he missed 14 games. You can't call one of them injury prone and not the other. That's just silly.Before 2020, where he missed 14 of 16 games, going down in week 2, he only missed 3 games in 2019 and 4 in 2021 (post surgery). My point is not how many games either has missed, but that Swift is always dinged, dating back to Georgia and that has continued in the NFL. Which seems more consistent with fragile than someone who tore his ACL one year.
Sure it is based on something. Counting his days in Georgia It's an indicator to me that Swift gets dinged more than Barkley. If you take away the ACL tear in 2020, Barkley hasn't been as injury prone as Swift. Looks like Barkley has had issues with ankle injuries (not counting the ACL tear) and Swift has had an assortment of injuries.Swift had two seasons where he missed 3 games each. So did Barkley (and in one of them he played through a HAS and was terrible) - plus a season where he missed 14 games. You can't call one of them injury prone and not the other. That's just silly.
You've said the bolded about 135 times on this board and it's based on nothing. He missed 2 games (to a concussion) his entire college career and left two games with minor injures and was highly productive (so not sure how he's always "dinged" or why it would matter).
Sure it is based on something. Counting his days in Georgia It's an indicator to me that Swift gets dinged more than Barkley. If you take away the ACL tear in 2020, Barkley hasn't been as injury prone as Swift.
Swift
Sep 15, 2018 Non-NFL Inguinal Groin Strain Grade 2Swift dealt with a groin injury as he exited early from the Middle Tennessee game Sept. 15.
Nov 30, 2019 Non-NFL Shoulder Swift left the game at Georgia Tech in the third quarter with an apparent left shoulder injury.
Nov 19, 2020 NFL Head Cranial Concussion Grade 1 Swift missed two games after being diagnosed with a concussion.
Aug 4, 2021 NFL Inguinal Groin Strain Grade 2Swift suffered a groin injury during the Lions' training camp. He has been regular on Lions injury reports managing this groin injury since the training camp
Nov 25, 2021 NFL Shoulder A/C Joint Sprain Swift suffered an AC joint injury during Week 12's loss to the Bears.
Barkley
Sep 26, 2015 Non-NFL Pedal Ankle Sprain Grade 2 Barkley missed 2 games as a freshman with an ankle injury.
Nov 26, 2016 Non-NFL Pedal Ankle Sprain/Pull Unspecified Grade 1Barkley injured his right ankle in the 3rd quarter vs. Michigan State but was able to play the following week.
Aug 13, 2018 NFL Thigh Hamstring Sprain/Pull Unspecified Grade 1 Barkley was hurt in camp while running a pass route. He missed 8 days but was ready for Week 1.
Sep 22, 2019 NFL Pedal Ankle Sprain Grade 2 He suffered a high ankle sprain in the second quarter against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
***** Sep 20, 2020NFLKnee ACL Tear Grade 3Barkley suffered a torn ACL during the Week 2 contest at Chicago. His season was over after just two games. He also suffered Knee MCL Sprain Grade 2Barkley suffered an MCL strain during the Week 2 contest at Chicago.
Oct 10, 2021 NFL Pedal Ankle Sprain/Pull Unspecified Grade 1 Barkley suffered a low-ankle injury in Week 5 contest against the Dallas Cowboys.
Yeah, you said that, but if you take away the ACL / MCL from 2020 what are the percentages? Swift is always hurt with something and that has always been the issue with him. You have to admit that it seems Swift always has something wrong with him.Barkley has missed 23 out of a possible 64 games (35%)
Swift has missed 6 out of a possible 32 games (18%)
None of it is predictive - I was just responding to the fact that some one is suggesting Swift is injury prone in comparison to Barkley. It's an extremely weird position to take because it doesn't make sense on any level whatsoever. Personally I think all RBs are potentially injury prone.I don't have a side in the argument and this isn't a criticism because it seems intuitive but i don't think games missed over total games is a good metric especially when talking about season ending injuries.
Who would you rather have, a guy who tore his acl in the preseason last year and missed 16 games, or a guy who tore his acl in the superbowl last year and missed zero?
I think you can make the case that guys who got injured early in the season might have started out in worse shape on average than their peers who got hurt later, while the guys who got hurt later probably, on average, played more through nagging injuries or wore down more as the year went on.
But i don't know if any of that is really predictive.
Other than that how was the play. Mrs. Lincoln?Yeah, you said that, but if you take away the ACL / MCL from 2020 what are the percentages? Swift is always hurt with something and that has always been the issue with him. You have to admit that it seems Swift always has something wrong with him.
Yes, that is a two way street.I'll drop it though because you can't convince some one that is stuck in their ways.
butwhy.gifFFPC 1QB
I gave Jacobs, 2023 2nd
I got 1.05
assuming the 2023 pick is late, I like this deal. I think. lolFFPC SuperFlex
I gave 1.11, 2023 2nd
I got 2.01, Renfrow
I love your 2nd trade. I am a believer in Renfrow. reminds me of Kupp, but will not reach that elite level he has now.FFPC 1QB
I gave Jacobs, 2023 2nd
I got 1.05
FFPC SuperFlex
I gave 1.11, 2023 2nd
I got 2.01, Renfrow
I will easily take 1.05 and 2023 1st..FFPC standard
Pick 1.01
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Pick 1.05 and a 2023 1st ( middle of the road team so future pick could truly be anywhere).