****OFFICIAL DYNASTY TRADES**** (27 Viewers)

[Da Franchise]

Fair deal to me but I prefer to hold my value in WRs rather than RBs, so it’s Chase in theory. You have plenty of solid RB options so in theory becomes reality for me. Would take Chase easily.

Thanks - yeah, I have Pierce, Deneric Prince, Guerendo, AJD, too. Nothing special, but seems like enough depth that it’s worth having Chase, AJB, ARSB

Nasty trio. Feels good. Feels real good.

I don’t think I got a bargain, but I’m super happy with it. Bijan has a lot of shine, but I don’t know if he’ll deliver. Chase is a monster.

My personal choice would be easy but think they are basically dead even in value. No bargains either way just a fair deal to me. Couldn’t care less about Perry in a deal like this tbh.

Hopefully we get a healthy Burrow this year.

Does it change your equation with Higgins as my WR4? That's the only part I'm a little off on - 2 WR same team.

Nope, not even a little. Especially in that format. First goal to me is making sure my most valuable pieces are exactly how I want them. Thats far more important to me than this type of in season issue.

Now, moving to the issue…It’s a funnel offense so as long as everyone is healthy they should both have excellent years. Maybe it limits your weekly upside a tad but it also raises the floor IMO. And obviously you can find an exit ramp somewhere and deal him if you’re not feeling it and if not, the problem solves itself next year anyway.

Do you have a multi week championship showdown of any kind? That would make me less bothered if it’s a two week accumulation of some kind. FFPC works that way.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Do you have a multi week championship showdown of any kind? That would make me less bothered if it’s a two week accumulation of some kind. FFPC works that way.

2 weeks of playoffs, then LCG.

 

[Da Franchise]

Do you have a multi week championship showdown of any kind? That would make me less bothered if it’s a two week accumulation of some kind. FFPC works that way.

2 weeks of playoffs, then LCG.

So H2H each week. Gotcha. FFPC does H2H the first playoff week, then the final four have a two week race for most cumulative points. It’s a great format IMO and reduces the luck factor. Anyway I was trying to say I’d be less bothered because you have two weeks for it to even out.

Wait lol. 6 teams in. 2 byes. Bottom 4 have a total points contest. 2 advance to face the bye teams. Then a two week sprint for most points. No H2H. Love it.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Wait lol. 6 teams in. 2 byes. Bottom 4 have a total points contest. 2 advance to face the bye teams. Then a two week sprint for most points. No H2H. Love it.

I’ve played in that format before. I like it a lot

 

[Gally]

Two trades to post here. Both in the same league:

SF, IDP, 1/2 PPR, Salary Cap (15 players or $250), Q/R/R/W/W/T/SF/K/P/DL/DL/LB/LB/DB/DB/IDP Flex
Scoring for IDP and Offense is balanced with similar numbers of each position in the top 100 players. Big Play IDP scoring, DT premium, TE premium, 6 pts All TD, -3 pts turnovers,


Team A gets:

• Lamar Jackson ($96)
• Dowdle ($3)
• Marquise Brown ($3)
• Madubuike ($39)
• 1.12
• 2.12
• 2025 1st
• 2026 2nd

Team B gets:

• 1.01
• 6.06 (the draft is rookie/free agent and is 25 rounds. Only 15 players kept so the draft is very deep. 6th round is start of $5 salary round)

Trade #2

Team B gets:

• Christian Wilkins ($15)
• 16.07 (first round of the $1 salary)

Team C gets:

• Godwin ($12/2024)
• Michael Wilson ($1/2025)
• Osa Odighizuwa ($1/2025)
• 12.12
• 2025 6th rounder

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Two trades to post here. Both in the same league:

SF, IDP, 1/2 PPR, Salary Cap (15 players or $250), Q/R/R/W/W/T/SF/K/P/DL/DL/LB/LB/DB/DB/IDP Flex
Scoring for IDP and Offense is balanced with similar numbers of each position in the top 100 players. Big Play IDP scoring, DT premium, TE premium, 6 pts All TD, -3 pts turnovers,


Team A gets:

• Lamar Jackson ($96)
• Dowdle ($3)
• Marquise Brown ($3)
• Madubuike ($39)
• 1.12
• 2.12
• 2025 1st
• 2026 2nd

Team B gets:

• 1.01
• 6.06 (the draft is rookie/free agent and is 25 rounds. Only 15 players kept so the draft is very deep. 6th round is start of $5 salary round)

Trade #2

Team B gets:

• Christian Wilkins ($15)
• 16.07 (first round of the $1 salary)

Team C gets:

• Godwin ($12/2024)
• Michael Wilson ($1/2025)
• Osa Odighizuwa ($1/2025)
• 12.12
• 2025 6th rounder

I like them both, especially in the context of your team

 

[Birdie048]

Team A gets:

• Lamar Jackson ($96)
• Dowdle ($3)
• Marquise Brown ($3)
• Madubuike ($39)
• 1.12
• 2.12
• 2025 1st
• 2026 2nd

Team B gets:

• 1.01
• 6.06 (the draft is rookie/free agent and is 25 rounds. Only 15 players kept so the draft is very deep. 6th round is start of $5 salary round)

MASSIVE ROI for the 1.01 ... looks heavy cost and give me Team A end of return Lamar, 2x1st and 2x2nds Plus...

 

[Gally]

Team A gets:

• Lamar Jackson ($96)
• Dowdle ($3)
• Marquise Brown ($3)
• Madubuike ($39)
• 1.12
• 2.12
• 2025 1st
• 2026 2nd

Team B gets:

• 1.01
• 6.06 (the draft is rookie/free agent and is 25 rounds. Only 15 players kept so the draft is very deep. 6th round is start of $5 salary round)

MASSIVE ROI for the 1.01 ... looks heavy cost and give me Team A end of return Lamar, 2x1st and 2x2nds Plus...

Team B couldn't keep any of those players they gave up in the deal for pick 1.01 They were all going back into the draft if no trade could be worked out. Team A will keep everyone but Lamar but that will give them matching rights on Lamar for the restricted free agent auction. Essentially they have the first right of refusal to match the winning bid for him in the draft. His current salary of $96 is cost prohibitive to keep him outright.

While I think it was an overpay for the 1.01 I think both teams benefited from the deal. Team B essentially gave up two 1sts and 2 seconds for 1.01 and 6.06.

 

[Birdie048]

While I think it was an overpay for the 1.01 I think both teams benefited from the deal. Team B essentially gave up two 1sts and 2 seconds for 1.01 and 6.06.

That all day!

 

[phandango]

Tried hard to move Rodgers instead of JJ but it wasn’t happening.

In a Triflex a few weeks ago, someone traded Bo Nix straight up for Rodgers. Pissed me off because I had planned to make an offer for Nix later that day when I had time. The guy took Nix at 1.12 in May.

 

[InDitkaWeTrust]

Tried hard to move Rodgers instead of JJ but it wasn’t happening.

In a Triflex a few weeks ago, someone traded Bo Nix straight up for Rodgers. Pissed me off because I had planned to make an offer for Nix later that day when I had time. The guy took Nix at 1.12 in May.

Yep, that tracks for FFPC leagues.

 

[Da Franchise]

Tried hard to move Rodgers instead of JJ but it wasn’t happening.

In a Triflex a few weeks ago, someone traded Bo Nix straight up for Rodgers. Pissed me off because I had planned to make an offer for Nix later that day when I had time. The guy took Nix at 1.12 in May.

Yep, that tracks for FFPC leagues.

Depends on the buy in from my experience. The old $77 (now $100) and $250 leagues you see a lot of short term moves because it’s so easy to just bail on the league. I haven’t seen egregious things at the $500 level. Personally I think $1250 is the sweet spot. Good, active players and lots of deals going down. I haven’t gone any higher than that but have heard it grinds the action to a bit of a halt.

 

[BigJim®]

While I think it was an overpay for the 1.01 I think both teams benefited from the deal. Team B essentially gave up two 1sts and 2 seconds for 1.01 and 6.06.

The words are accurate, but 1.12/2.12 somehow feels less than ‘a first and a 2nd.’ If 2025 also become low, it’s a bargain for 1.1.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

While I think it was an overpay for the 1.01 I think both teams benefited from the deal. Team B essentially gave up two 1sts and 2 seconds for 1.01 and 6.06.

The words are accurate, but 1.12/2.12 somehow feels less than ‘a first and a 2nd.’ If 2025 also become low, it’s a bargain for 1.1.

That’s my take on it for sure. I’d encouraged Gally to offer the 2.12s because they’re essentially 3rds. The 1st might as well be a 2nd,

Bargain.

 

[Gally]

While I think it was an overpay for the 1.01 I think both teams benefited from the deal. Team B essentially gave up two 1sts and 2 seconds for 1.01 and 6.06.

The words are accurate, but 1.12/2.12 somehow feels less than ‘a first and a 2nd.’ If 2025 also become low, it’s a bargain for 1.1.

That’s my take on it for sure. I’d encouraged Gally to offer the 2.12s because they’re essentially 3rds. The 1st might as well be a 2nd,

Bargain.

I will say I added the 2.12 because of @Hot Sauce Guy advice. I didn't plan on doing that but figured WTH

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I will say I added the 2.12 because of @Hot Sauce Guy advice. I didn't plan on doing that but figured WTH

It sounded like your trade partner needed that to get it done.

And psychologically it feels much more affordable when you look at it like it’s an early 3rd,

Like charm pricing. You might not pay $15 for something, but you’ll pay $14.99!

Plus it’s cheaper than a 2026 1st.

 

[InDitkaWeTrust]

While I think it was an overpay for the 1.01 I think both teams benefited from the deal. Team B essentially gave up two 1sts and 2 seconds for 1.01 and 6.06.

The words are accurate, but 1.12/2.12 somehow feels less than ‘a first and a 2nd.’ If 2025 also become low, it’s a bargain for 1.1.

That’s my take on it for sure. I’d encouraged Gally to offer the 2.12s because they’re essentially 3rds. The 1st might as well be a 2nd,

Bargain.

It's funny. 2.12 seems like "almost a 3rd" to a seller, but a buyer absolutely won't take 3.01 because it's almost a 2nd. Psychology at it's finest, I suppose.

 

[smbkrypt24]

While I think it was an overpay for the 1.01 I think both teams benefited from the deal. Team B essentially gave up two 1sts and 2 seconds for 1.01 and 6.06.

The words are accurate, but 1.12/2.12 somehow feels less than ‘a first and a 2nd.’ If 2025 also become low, it’s a bargain for 1.1.

That’s my take on it for sure. I’d encouraged Gally to offer the 2.12s because they’re essentially 3rds. The 1st might as well be a 2nd,

Bargain.

It's funny. 2.12 seems like "almost a 3rd" to a seller, but a buyer absolutely won't take 3.01 because it's almost a 2nd. Psychology at it's finest, I suppose.

It seems just another way to make yourself feel better about a trade. Would I trade a 1.12 for a late or random future 1st, yes. But I don't call it an almost 2nd rounder.

 

[BearsFan4Life]

14 team .. Standard Scoring

Aiyuk, JJacobs

for

London, Pickens, Meyers

 

[titusbramble]

14 team .. Standard Scoring

Aiyuk, JJacobs

for

London, Pickens, Meyers

Seems reasonable. Could work for both teams given roster situations

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

14 team .. Standard Scoring

Aiyuk, JJacobs

for

London, Pickens, Meyers

That seems like a bargain so long as you’re good at RB. Nice pull.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

It seems just another way to make yourself feel better about a trade. Would I trade a 1.12 for a late or random future 1st, yes. But I don't call it an almost 2nd rounder

I mean, it’s also a real thing that while 1.12 is technically “a 1st round pick”, in a 12-team league it may as well be a 2nd to the person selling it. Tier breaks, caliber of player, some might argue the same for 1.10 or 1.11.

But to a buyer insisting on getting a 1st, it technically qualifies.

I suppose some of that could be considered mental justification, but if I’m selling future picks from a contending team, I’m absolutely more willing to give up a figure 1st if I believe it’ll be late. I’m in 2x 16 team leagues, so even more relevant since 1.13-1.16 are literally 2nd round picks in a 12-team format.

 

[BearsFan4Life]

14 team .. Standard scoring

Hockenson, 2-2025 2nds

for

2025 1st and 3rd

Team trading Hockenson also has McBride and Andrews

 

[King of the Jungle]

14 team .. Standard Scoring

Aiyuk, JJacobs

for

London, Pickens, Meyers

That seems like a bargain so long as you’re good at RB. Nice pull.

Is that thought based on liking London a lot more than Aiyuk or are you high on Pickens/Meyers?

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

14 team .. Standard Scoring

Aiyuk, JJacobs

for

London, Pickens, Meyers

That seems like a bargain so long as you’re good at RB. Nice pull.

Is that thought based on liking London a lot more than Aiyuk or are you high on Pickens/Meyers?

I like London and Pickens, and I’m not all that high on Jacobs.

 

[Zow]

12 team .5 ppr superflex with deep rosters:

Team A trades away: TJ Hockenson, Raschad White, Josh Downs, and a 3rd rounder

Team B trades away: Xavier Worthy, Rhamondre Stevenson, Michael Mayer, and a 2nd rounder

Team B has a huge hole at TE (this league started up last year and the owner whiffed on Chigo and Mayer) and Team A drafted Bowers and looked to pair him with Mayer.

 

[eighsse2]

deep rosters

Xavier White

Apparently!

 

[joey]

deep rosters

Xavier White

Apparently!

lol. I literally had no clue who that was and just assumed that this was maybe an IDP league

 

[eighsse2]

deep rosters

Xavier White

Apparently!

lol. I literally had no clue who that was and just assumed that this was maybe an IDP league

That was my first thought as well.

 

[Zow]

deep rosters

Xavier White

Apparently!

Sorry, meant Xavier Worthy. Conflated his last name with Raschad's.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

12 team .5 ppr superflex with deep rosters:

Team A trades away: TJ Hockenson, Raschad White, Josh Downs, and a 3rd rounder

Team B trades away: Xavier Worthy, Rhamondre Stevenson, Michael Mayer, and a 2nd rounder

Team B has a huge hole at TE (this league started up last year and the owner whiffed on Chigo and Mayer) and Team A drafted Bowers and looked to pair him with Mayer.

Seems like a fair deal.

 

[Zow]

12 team .5 ppr superflex with deep rosters:

Team A trades away: TJ Hockenson, Raschad White, Josh Downs, and a 3rd rounder

Team B trades away: Xavier Worthy, Rhamondre Stevenson, Michael Mayer, and a 2nd rounder

Team B has a huge hole at TE (this league started up last year and the owner whiffed on Chigo and Mayer) and Team A drafted Bowers and looked to pair him with Mayer.

Seems like a fair deal.

I thought so, too. Just posting here for the betterment of the forum as I thought it to be a good trade as well.

 

[joey]

deep rosters

Xavier White

Apparently!

Sorry, meant Xavier Worthy. Conflated his last name with Raschad's.

Well,this makes more sense now

 

[Jayded]

Straight forward one I'm curious for thoughts on:

TE Premium, Devy Dynasty, PPR, IDP

Team A receives : Pat Freiermuth
Team B receives : Cole Kmet

 

[InDitkaWeTrust]

Straight forward one I'm curious for thoughts on:

TE Premium, Devy Dynasty, PPR, IDP

Team A receives : Pat Freiermuth
Team B receives : Cole Kmet

Those two teams are having a TE mid-off.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Straight forward one I'm curious for thoughts on:

TE Premium, Devy Dynasty, PPR, IDP

Team A receives : Pat Freiermuth
Team B receives : Cole Kmet

Gimme ‘Mouth.

No idea what the dude getting Kmet was thinking, but he got taken. Probably hadn’t been keeping up with camp news.

 

[InDitkaWeTrust]

Straight forward one I'm curious for thoughts on:

TE Premium, Devy Dynasty, PPR, IDP

Team A receives : Pat Freiermuth
Team B receives : Cole Kmet

Gimme ‘Mouth.

No idea what the dude getting Kmet was thinking, but he got taken. Probably hadn’t been keeping up with camp news.

Rose colored glasses aside, Kmet has objectively had the better career so far and is going into a system with an arguably better QB. I wouldn't be super happy with either of these guys as my TE1, but if I had to choose, it would be Kmet.

 

[Jayded]

Straight forward one I'm curious for thoughts on:

TE Premium, Devy Dynasty, PPR, IDP

Team A receives : Pat Freiermuth
Team B receives : Cole Kmet

Gimme ‘Mouth.

No idea what the dude getting Kmet was thinking, but he got taken. Probably hadn’t been keeping up with camp news.

I'll fall on that grenade and not be embarrassed but intellectually curious - I'm the Kmet side.

First answer to your question is I'm a Notre Dame fan. So I'm in the business of collecting my Domers where I can and try to balance value so I'm not completely selling the farm to do so.

Second was Muth has been an ok asset for me for a few years now. Last year injuries hurt him and looking over at Kmet I see availability and an uptick in scoring year by year. Yes, Kmet is surrounded by a whole different cast this year but I'm essentially betting on rising tide lifting all boats (maybe fewer yards, more TDs). I figured it was a relatively even swap and a + 1 to my Domer count, but if I missed something big and got hosed I'm now curious what I might have missed

 

[barackdhouse]

FFPC TriFlex

I gave Walker
I got Jameson Williams, Spears

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Straight forward one I'm curious for thoughts on:

TE Premium, Devy Dynasty, PPR, IDP

Team A receives : Pat Freiermuth
Team B receives : Cole Kmet

Gimme ‘Mouth.

No idea what the dude getting Kmet was thinking, but he got taken. Probably hadn’t been keeping up with camp news.

I'll fall on that grenade and not be embarrassed but intellectually curious - I'm the Kmet side.

First answer to your question is I'm a Notre Dame fan. So I'm in the business of collecting my Domers where I can and try to balance value so I'm not completely selling the farm to do so.

Second was Muth has been an ok asset for me for a few years now. Last year injuries hurt him and looking over at Kmet I see availability and an uptick in scoring year by year. Yes, Kmet is surrounded by a whole different cast this year but I'm essentially betting on rising tide lifting all boats (maybe fewer yards, more TDs). I figured it was a relatively even swap and a + 1 to my Domer count, but if I missed something big and got hosed I'm now curious what I might have missed

Here’s the thing. I am a Kmet shareholder. I believe he’s their best TE.

But they brought in a guy who’s getting more snaps.

Maybe that was an outlier preseason game. Maybe not. It did match what I’d heard rumored about Kmet being the Bears TE2.

But my Kmet ownership is in a start 2 TE, TEP league, so no one would be happier to be wrong than me.

but if I missed something big and got hosed I'm now curious what I might have missed

Just the Everett singing & usage so far. But it isn’t the regular season yet. So maybe I’m off-base.

I guess saying you got taken was hyperbolic - it’s probably not too far off value-wise. But Everett’s target share combined with some FF writers comments makes me nervous.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

FFPC TriFlex

I gave Walker
I got Jameson Williams, Spears

Which Walker? KW?

If so I don’t hate it. I’m still not a Jamo believer though.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Rose colored glasses aside, Kmet has objectively had the better career so far and is going into a system with an arguably better QB. I wouldn't be super happy with either of these guys as my TE1, but if I had to choose, it would be Kmet.

Everett scares me as a Kmet shareholder.

 

[jabarony]

FFPC TriFlex

I gave Walker
I got Jameson Williams, Spears

Odds are Walker > Spears. But if things break the other way a bit, it could be a free Jamo.

 

[Ray Barboni]

FFPC TriFlex

I gave Walker
I got Jameson Williams, Spears

Love KW this year AND going forward. He’s just much more dynamic and explosive when compared to Charbs. If the rumors he’s also going to be used as a pass catcher out of the backfield, his value would skyrocket.

Not a believer in Spears to be more than the 1A (or 1B) in a committee.

Really like Jamo, but I don’t ever see enough looks going his way in Detroit to ever become a WR1 in fantasy.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

FFPC TriFlex

I gave Walker
I got Jameson Williams, Spears

Love KW this year AND going forward. He’s just much more dynamic and explosive when compared to Charbs. If the rumors he’s also going to be used as a pass catcher out of the backfield, his value would skyrocket.

Not a believer in Spears to be more than the 1A (or 1B) in a committee.

Really like Jamo, but I don’t ever see enough looks going his way in Detroit to ever become a WR1 in fantasy.

Agreed - I feel like if he’s a FF WR2 that’s what’s expected out of the trade.

That said, that’s also asking a lot with all of the mouths to feed in DET’s offense.

 

[barackdhouse]

FFPC TriFlex

I gave Walker
I got Jameson Williams, Spears

Which Walker? KW?

If so I don’t hate it. I’m still not a Jamo believer though.

Kenneth Walker yeah off the top of my head can't think of another Walker except for Leia Sky

 

[barackdhouse]

I do believe in Jamo as a dynasty asset. I like Walker a lot also but am afraid they are going to be passing a lot more and to Charbs. Walker will still give production though.

I think Jamo should be valued higher than Walker so this is like a free Spears to me, who I think matches Walker in scoring this year. Which means you could sort of call it a free Jamo too.

I agree about the mouths to feed problem in Detroit but I've been saying Jamo is going to eat out of LaPorta's pie. And even Josh Reynolds vacated targets and then I think now it's fair to say maybe a skosh out of Gibbs share. But that is still probably something like a WR2 and not elite.

But I think as a dynasty asset that isn't the case. He is uber talented and the kind of guy that can explode for 40 burgers. Second contract possibilities alone make him worth having on my bench over a RB that is imminently replaceable and the math says has an already ticking shelf life.

I also love Spears to crush this year.

 

[eighsse2]

I think Jamo should be valued higher than Walker

I don't hate the trade but I wouldn't have done it personally. However, as to this quote -- and I get it, it's your opinion --, that is quite an extremely long limb you're out on.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Kenneth Walker yeah off the top of my head can't think of another Walker except for Leia Sky

Couple IDP Walkers out there. But lol @ the Princess Leia joke.

 

[barackdhouse]

I think Jamo should be valued higher than Walker

I don't hate the trade but I wouldn't have done it personally. However, as to this quote -- and I get it, it's your opinion --, that is quite an extremely long limb you're out on.

Says you. And it's ok. But Walker has what maybe three years of solid to elite production IF everything continues to work out for him (and I don't fear it won't) compared to an ascending young WR on a strong offense. Simply from a dynasty franchise value perspective (which is how I do things around here) I have them as about equal. A possible tiebreaker for Walker is that he is a RB a possible tiebreaker for Jamo is that his WR arc can/will/might last much much longer. My tiebreaker is that he might be special and Walker is Walker (which I don't mind really).

My value system has Walker at 25 and Jamo at 27. Negligible difference but it is a very similar system as Hindery. Hindery has Walker at 17.5 and Jamo at 8.1 and Spears at 7.5 (I have Spears at 17) so Hindery would prefer the Walker side as well (and is a fan) 17.5-15.6 which I would argue is not a bad loss (on paper) to make a fair and speculative trade.

By my calc I won 44 to 32 which is around a free early second round pick. The 32 is from 25 for Walker and 7 for the roster spot that I took on by adding a player. That's a penalty.