steelcityman
Footballguy
It was Puca for 1.06 and some minor bits. Still, wasnt something I considered very much.
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****OFFICIAL DYNASTY TRADES**** (24 Viewers)
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efactor
Footballguy
Well, I typically lead the league in trades in pretty much every league I play in and most are initiated by me, so there's zero fear of making an offer. Updating the trade bait is just a way of sparking additional interest. This is a new league for me so haven't got a feel for all the league members as of yet. But I believe I have made more trades than anyone else in this league since I took over the team.What do you expect value wise for either Irving or McCaffrey? Just putting players on the block and expecting offers may require more from you and may need for you to make some offers since it is you that wants to trade. I admit making an offer for Nacua went against your trade bait. If there is one thing I’ve learned, is that a lot of people want others to make the first offer even though they are the ones who want to trade. Not saying this is you, but I’m amazed at how many are scared to make offers, even if it is them wanting to trade, or just refuse to. Have you sent out any offers after posting your players on the block? Or are you just waiting for offers from others? Have you had any private discussions for what value you're expecting for your players on the block? I would say that 99% of the trades I make are offers I initiate, or after having some discussion about expectations from a trade, not just what position I seek. For some reason I very seldom make a trade where someone makes me an offer and I make a lot of trades. Sometimes I may get a counter that I accept, but the first offer almost always comes from me. That tells me that people may want to trade, but don't like to make the first offer. We could actually do a deep dive on that pyschology.Ha. Same thing happened to me last night. Unfortunately, it was my copy of Puka for Zay Flowers, a late 2026 2nd (team is stacked) and a late 4th. So far off I didn't even counter.
This offer came in right after I updated my trade bait putting CMC and Bucky out there and stating I was looking for WRs
This might be the league that you are in now that I think about it
barackdhouse
Footballguy
FFPC SuperFlex
I gave Stevenson, 2025 2nd
I got Daniel Jones, Pickett, Sinnott
Yes I have Richardson and no I don't love this deal but I have a feeling I'm going to be able to parlay something here.
In my system this is me giving 15 + 12 for Stevenson and the 2nd, +14 for two cleared roster spots and I got back 15 + 12 for Jones and Pickett and I have Sinnott worth 10 so I guess I'm losing 4 pts but the two roster spots for my partner here are not necessarily worth their full value that I ascribe to them. That would be inseason or before March cuts. Roster spots are relatively cheap this time of year.
I gave Stevenson, 2025 2nd
I got Daniel Jones, Pickett, Sinnott
Yes I have Richardson and no I don't love this deal but I have a feeling I'm going to be able to parlay something here.
In my system this is me giving 15 + 12 for Stevenson and the 2nd, +14 for two cleared roster spots and I got back 15 + 12 for Jones and Pickett and I have Sinnott worth 10 so I guess I'm losing 4 pts but the two roster spots for my partner here are not necessarily worth their full value that I ascribe to them. That would be inseason or before March cuts. Roster spots are relatively cheap this time of year.
steelcityman
Footballguy
Pickett could be playing for Edmonton or Toronto soon.
I like Sinnott, just needs his chance
Jones could be fine, and having AR makes sure you have their QB.
I like Sinnott, just needs his chance
Jones could be fine, and having AR makes sure you have their QB.
Yeah, minor bits aren’t getting it done for a top 6 dynasty WR.
Birdie048
Footballguy
Future cost for a future value.12 team SF Best Ball PPR Dynasty league
Gave: 2027 2nd and 2026 4th
Got: Sinnott
He might not do much this year with Ertz starting, but hoping by 2026 he'll be worth the draft capitol I gave up.trade for sure, as I'm a lifelong Washington fan.
Looks reasonable
titusbramble
Footballguy
10 team SF PPR
Sent: Stevenson
Got: 2027 4th, 2026 5th
Maybe not getting fullest value but makes cutdowns easier and value could nosedive very quickly if things go wrong so will cash for what I can now
Sent: Stevenson
Got: 2027 4th, 2026 5th
Maybe not getting fullest value but makes cutdowns easier and value could nosedive very quickly if things go wrong so will cash for what I can now
Right, he's closer to player 6 overall then 1.6 of a rookie draft.
msudaisy26
Footballguy
12 team SF Best Ball PPR Dynasty league
Gave: 2027 2nd and 2026 4th
Got: Sinnott
He might not do much this year with Ertz starting, but hoping by 2026 he'll be worth the draft capitol I gave up.
A little rich for me and I like Sinnott. He got dropped in one of my dynasty leagues and I drafted him at 4.05 in my league.
Feel like I got good value. I would think he is more like a 3rd round rookie right now.
I think he's worth more like a 5th at best in TEP. Not sure in non-TEP but no one I'd want to roster.12 team SF Best Ball PPR Dynasty league
Gave: 2027 2nd and 2026 4th
Got: Sinnott
He might not do much this year with Ertz starting, but hoping by 2026 he'll be worth the draft capitol I gave up.
A little rich for me and I like Sinnott. He got dropped in one of my dynasty leagues and I drafted him at 4.05 in my league.
Feel like I got good value. I would think he is more like a 3rd round rookie right now.
In non-TEP you could draft guys like Taylor, Arroyoa and Ferguson in the 3rd-4th, Gadsen even later and all of them clearly more valuable.
This is nothing at all like a Trey McBride situation.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Just curious, why do you feel that way? Not a fan of his potential?I think he's worth more like a 5th at best in TEP. Not sure in non-TEP but no one I'd want to roster.12 team SF Best Ball PPR Dynasty league
Gave: 2027 2nd and 2026 4th
Got: Sinnott
He might not do much this year with Ertz starting, but hoping by 2026 he'll be worth the draft capitol I gave up.
A little rich for me and I like Sinnott. He got dropped in one of my dynasty leagues and I drafted him at 4.05 in my league.
Feel like I got good value. I would think he is more like a 3rd round rookie right now.
In non-TEP you could draft guys like Taylor, Arroyoa and Ferguson in the 3rd-4th, Gadsen even later and all of them clearly more valuable.
This is nothing at all like a Trey McBride situation.
ffmail4me
Footballguy
I think he's worth more like a 5th at best in TEP. Not sure in non-TEP but no one I'd want to roster.12 team SF Best Ball PPR Dynasty league
Gave: 2027 2nd and 2026 4th
Got: Sinnott
He might not do much this year with Ertz starting, but hoping by 2026 he'll be worth the draft capitol I gave up.
A little rich for me and I like Sinnott. He got dropped in one of my dynasty leagues and I drafted him at 4.05 in my league.
Feel like I got good value. I would think he is more like a 3rd round rookie right now.
In non-TEP you could draft guys like Taylor, Arroyoa and Ferguson in the 3rd-4th, Gadsen even later and all of them clearly more valuable.
This is nothing at all like a Trey McBride situation.
A few things to remember about Sinnott: He had the highest vert (40"), longest broad jump (10'6"), and fastest 3 cone (6.82) of any TE in his class at the combine. He also had the 2nd best RAS score (9.72) of any TE in his class. So the upside is there, he just has to earn more reps, which was understandably difficult the way Ertz balled out last year.
Showed close to absolutely zero. Ran 24 routes without Ertz on the field and got one target. Only 5 targets on 99 routes run all year. That's horrible per route run and horrible he could not earn more playing time. We are seeing rookie TE's perform a lot better over the years but he barely showed signs of life on a team that badly needed some pass catching help.Just curious, why do you feel that way? Not a fan of his potential?I think he's worth more like a 5th at best in TEP. Not sure in non-TEP but no one I'd want to roster.12 team SF Best Ball PPR Dynasty league
Gave: 2027 2nd and 2026 4th
Got: Sinnott
He might not do much this year with Ertz starting, but hoping by 2026 he'll be worth the draft capitol I gave up.
A little rich for me and I like Sinnott. He got dropped in one of my dynasty leagues and I drafted him at 4.05 in my league.
Feel like I got good value. I would think he is more like a 3rd round rookie right now.
In non-TEP you could draft guys like Taylor, Arroyoa and Ferguson in the 3rd-4th, Gadsen even later and all of them clearly more valuable.
This is nothing at all like a Trey McBride situation.
Other big key because I know everyone is seeing the Ertz/Kingsbury tie-in. When Arizona drafted McBride they already had Ertz on a long term contract and only took a few games into McBride's second season to start a changing of the guard. After seeing Sinnott for a year Washington decided it would be best to bring resign Ertz and bring him back.
Not going to say he can't be nothing, which is why I said I'd value him like a 5th-which is the round I took Gadsen in a few drafts. Just think odds are pretty low for him.
I know all that and shows he's a good athlete which along with decent draft capital is why I took a shot on him in round two last year of a rookie draft even though people I trust in the lead up to the draft were saying he projected more as an H-Back/FB then pure TE. I think they be proven right, have been a lot of good athletes not pan out. Don't think Ertz play last year should have been in his way if he had showed something.I think he's worth more like a 5th at best in TEP. Not sure in non-TEP but no one I'd want to roster.12 team SF Best Ball PPR Dynasty league
Gave: 2027 2nd and 2026 4th
Got: Sinnott
He might not do much this year with Ertz starting, but hoping by 2026 he'll be worth the draft capitol I gave up.
A little rich for me and I like Sinnott. He got dropped in one of my dynasty leagues and I drafted him at 4.05 in my league.
Feel like I got good value. I would think he is more like a 3rd round rookie right now.
In non-TEP you could draft guys like Taylor, Arroyoa and Ferguson in the 3rd-4th, Gadsen even later and all of them clearly more valuable.
This is nothing at all like a Trey McBride situation.
A few things to remember about Sinnott: He had the highest vert (40"), longest broad jump (10'6"), and fastest 3 cone (6.82) of any TE in his class at the combine. He also had the 2nd best RAS score (9.72) of any TE in his class. So the upside is there, he just has to earn more reps, which was understandably difficult the way Ertz balled out last year.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I’d easily pay a 3rd for Ridley.
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
Agreed. The Arroyo, Fannin, Ferguson, Mason Taylor group are largely 3rd rounders. Sinnott feels like similar value.12 team SF Best Ball PPR Dynasty league
Gave: 2027 2nd and 2026 4th
Got: Sinnott
He might not do much this year with Ertz starting, but hoping by 2026 he'll be worth the draft capitol I gave up.
A little rich for me and I like Sinnott. He got dropped in one of my dynasty leagues and I drafted him at 4.05 in my league.
Feel like I got good value. I would think he is more like a 3rd round rookie right now.
Think I’d prefer re-rolling on any of those rookies, personally.Agreed. The Arroyo, Fannin, Ferguson, Mason Taylor group are largely 3rd rounders. Sinnott feels like similar value.12 team SF Best Ball PPR Dynasty league
Gave: 2027 2nd and 2026 4th
Got: Sinnott
He might not do much this year with Ertz starting, but hoping by 2026 he'll be worth the draft capitol I gave up.
A little rich for me and I like Sinnott. He got dropped in one of my dynasty leagues and I drafted him at 4.05 in my league.
Feel like I got good value. I would think he is more like a 3rd round rookie right now.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I like Ferguson from that groupThink I’d prefer re-rolling on any of those rookies, personally.Agreed. The Arroyo, Fannin, Ferguson, Mason Taylor group are largely 3rd rounders. Sinnott feels like similar value.12 team SF Best Ball PPR Dynasty league
Gave: 2027 2nd and 2026 4th
Got: Sinnott
He might not do much this year with Ertz starting, but hoping by 2026 he'll be worth the draft capitol I gave up.
A little rich for me and I like Sinnott. He got dropped in one of my dynasty leagues and I drafted him at 4.05 in my league.
Feel like I got good value. I would think he is more like a 3rd round rookie right now.
Dez
Footballguy
2nd rounders is most of my leaguesAgreed. The Arroyo, Fannin, Ferguson, Mason Taylor group are largely 3rd rounders. Sinnott feels like similar value.12 team SF Best Ball PPR Dynasty league
Gave: 2027 2nd and 2026 4th
Got: Sinnott
He might not do much this year with Ertz starting, but hoping by 2026 he'll be worth the draft capitol I gave up.
A little rich for me and I like Sinnott. He got dropped in one of my dynasty leagues and I drafted him at 4.05 in my league.
Feel like I got good value. I would think he is more like a 3rd round rookie right now.
Da Franchise
Footballguy
FFPC 1 QB - TE 1.5 PPR
Gave: Hockenson
Got: Kittle
I’m curious what folks think about this. My team is stacked and I’m trying to win a championship. I have the best roster, but there are 2 or 3 other near superteams and another 2 or 3 that are pretty good. And there are like 3 teams that are devoid of anything. Extremely unbalanced league. I’ve gotten unlucky in the playoffs the last couple years and still have nothing to show for this squad.
QB: Daniels, Burrow
RB: Bijan, King Henry, Chuba, Aaron Jones
WR: Jefferson, Chase, Lamb, Odunze, Worthy, Meyers
TE: Kittle, Ertz
I definitely prefer Kittle in redraft and think he’s in for a huge year with Deebo out of the picture. Downside is he’s 4 seasons older than Hock. Would have liked to get a 2nd round pick added but they weren’t accepting it. I haven’t seen a lot of discussion on TJ so curious what folks think about his future.
Gave: Hockenson
Got: Kittle
I’m curious what folks think about this. My team is stacked and I’m trying to win a championship. I have the best roster, but there are 2 or 3 other near superteams and another 2 or 3 that are pretty good. And there are like 3 teams that are devoid of anything. Extremely unbalanced league. I’ve gotten unlucky in the playoffs the last couple years and still have nothing to show for this squad.
QB: Daniels, Burrow
RB: Bijan, King Henry, Chuba, Aaron Jones
WR: Jefferson, Chase, Lamb, Odunze, Worthy, Meyers
TE: Kittle, Ertz
I definitely prefer Kittle in redraft and think he’s in for a huge year with Deebo out of the picture. Downside is he’s 4 seasons older than Hock. Would have liked to get a 2nd round pick added but they weren’t accepting it. I haven’t seen a lot of discussion on TJ so curious what folks think about his future.
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
I think he's worth more like a 5th at best in TEP. Not sure in non-TEP but no one I'd want to roster.12 team SF Best Ball PPR Dynasty league
Gave: 2027 2nd and 2026 4th
Got: Sinnott
He might not do much this year with Ertz starting, but hoping by 2026 he'll be worth the draft capitol I gave up.
A little rich for me and I like Sinnott. He got dropped in one of my dynasty leagues and I drafted him at 4.05 in my league.
Feel like I got good value. I would think he is more like a 3rd round rookie right now.
In non-TEP you could draft guys like Taylor, Arroyoa and Ferguson in the 3rd-4th, Gadsen even later and all of them clearly more valuable.
This is nothing at all like a Trey McBride situation.
I think it's an overpay but I would assume you're both talking about short roster FFPC leagues here right? I think Sinnott has more value in a traditional league where it's easier to roster guys that are just sitting for a few years. FFPC is kind of a different beast for guys like this and the league format depresses their value a lot.
ffmail4me
Footballguy
I agree in a redraft I like Kittle quite a bit more than Hock. Now long-term dynasty, I'd flip that.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I wonder if Hockenson has already peaked.
Big Nate
Footballguy
I agree and at this point it isn't close. Ferguson is the one guy in that group that has done it before (Finished TE8 with 100 targets in his second year). Could the others eventually over take Ferguson in production/rankings - sure but right now Ferg is the one I would take to score me points this year. I own shares of the other guys but it might take a year or three to get them rolling. TEs usually need some seasoning if they aren't of Bowers quality.I like Ferguson from that groupThink I’d prefer re-rolling on any of those rookies, personally.Agreed. The Arroyo, Fannin, Ferguson, Mason Taylor group are largely 3rd rounders. Sinnott feels like similar value.12 team SF Best Ball PPR Dynasty league
Gave: 2027 2nd and 2026 4th
Got: Sinnott
He might not do much this year with Ertz starting, but hoping by 2026 he'll be worth the draft capitol I gave up.
A little rich for me and I like Sinnott. He got dropped in one of my dynasty leagues and I drafted him at 4.05 in my league.
Feel like I got good value. I would think he is more like a 3rd round rookie right now.
Big Nate
Footballguy
100% great move for you. Kittle will likely be the #1 target in this offence with Deebo gone and Aiyuk coming off injury. I've owned Kittle the last 2 years and helped me win a chip. Hock had the ACL issue and wasn't quite 100% last year. New rookie QB and there could be struggles or inconsistency.
You have a win now team and I like the move. Gotta swing big! I also think Kittle has at least 2 more years so you can try to run it again next year too.
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
Was talking Terrance not Jake for Ferguson. Basically the group of rookies behind Loveland and Warren.I agree and at this point it isn't close. Ferguson is the one guy in that group that has done it before (Finished TE8 with 100 targets in his second year). Could the others eventually over take Ferguson in production/rankings - sure but right now Ferg is the one I would take to score me points this year. I own shares of the other guys but it might take a year or three to get them rolling. TEs usually need some seasoning if they aren't of Bowers quality.I like Ferguson from that groupThink I’d prefer re-rolling on any of those rookies, personally.Agreed. The Arroyo, Fannin, Ferguson, Mason Taylor group are largely 3rd rounders. Sinnott feels like similar value.12 team SF Best Ball PPR Dynasty league
Gave: 2027 2nd and 2026 4th
Got: Sinnott
He might not do much this year with Ertz starting, but hoping by 2026 he'll be worth the draft capitol I gave up.
A little rich for me and I like Sinnott. He got dropped in one of my dynasty leagues and I drafted him at 4.05 in my league.
Feel like I got good value. I would think he is more like a 3rd round rookie right now.
Big Nate
Footballguy
Could have but lots has changed since his big season. ACL, different QBs, Addison getting more experience.
With Kittle we know at worst he's the #2 for Purdy with most times the #1 read. Can't say the same for Hock. He's #2 or 3 with a rookie QB. I still think Hock is a good player but production wise there could be a struggle until we see how they use him. Maybe Hock will be the security blanket/check down for JJ if Jefferson is covered - in that case it could go well but a lot of ifs and praying.
I have Hock for cheap in an auction dynasty but I will admit I'm a bit cautious on his production this year until I see how it plays out.
Big Nate
Footballguy
Oh I'm not taking Terrance for production ha. No thanks. Taylor or Fannin for me but again not for this year. I don't think any of those guys will produce consistently this year.Was talking Terrance not Jake for Ferguson. Basically the group of rookies behind Loveland and Warren.I agree and at this point it isn't close. Ferguson is the one guy in that group that has done it before (Finished TE8 with 100 targets in his second year). Could the others eventually over take Ferguson in production/rankings - sure but right now Ferg is the one I would take to score me points this year. I own shares of the other guys but it might take a year or three to get them rolling. TEs usually need some seasoning if they aren't of Bowers quality.I like Ferguson from that groupThink I’d prefer re-rolling on any of those rookies, personally.Agreed. The Arroyo, Fannin, Ferguson, Mason Taylor group are largely 3rd rounders. Sinnott feels like similar value.12 team SF Best Ball PPR Dynasty league
Gave: 2027 2nd and 2026 4th
Got: Sinnott
He might not do much this year with Ertz starting, but hoping by 2026 he'll be worth the draft capitol I gave up.
A little rich for me and I like Sinnott. He got dropped in one of my dynasty leagues and I drafted him at 4.05 in my league.
Feel like I got good value. I would think he is more like a 3rd round rookie right now.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I was talking about Terrence Ferguson, who I thought was the Ferguson we were talking about, since someone mentioned Ferguson as part of a group of 3rd rounders.I agree and at this point it isn't close. Ferguson is the one guy in that group that has done it before (Finished TE8 with 100 targets in his second year). Could the others eventually over take Ferguson in production/rankings - sure but right now Ferg is the one I would take to score me points this year. I own shares of the other guys but it might take a year or three to get them rolling. TEs usually need some seasoning if they aren't of Bowers quality.I like Ferguson from that groupThink I’d prefer re-rolling on any of those rookies, personally.Agreed. The Arroyo, Fannin, Ferguson, Mason Taylor group are largely 3rd rounders. Sinnott feels like similar value.12 team SF Best Ball PPR Dynasty league
Gave: 2027 2nd and 2026 4th
Got: Sinnott
He might not do much this year with Ertz starting, but hoping by 2026 he'll be worth the draft capitol I gave up.
A little rich for me and I like Sinnott. He got dropped in one of my dynasty leagues and I drafted him at 4.05 in my league.
Feel like I got good value. I would think he is more like a 3rd round rookie right now.
Big Nate
Footballguy
Oh you are correct, I was the one who was out to lunch! ha.I was talking about Terrence Ferguson, who I thought was the Ferguson we were talking about, since someone mentioned Ferguson as part of a group of 3rd rounders.I agree and at this point it isn't close. Ferguson is the one guy in that group that has done it before (Finished TE8 with 100 targets in his second year). Could the others eventually over take Ferguson in production/rankings - sure but right now Ferg is the one I would take to score me points this year. I own shares of the other guys but it might take a year or three to get them rolling. TEs usually need some seasoning if they aren't of Bowers quality.I like Ferguson from that groupThink I’d prefer re-rolling on any of those rookies, personally.Agreed. The Arroyo, Fannin, Ferguson, Mason Taylor group are largely 3rd rounders. Sinnott feels like similar value.12 team SF Best Ball PPR Dynasty league
Gave: 2027 2nd and 2026 4th
Got: Sinnott
He might not do much this year with Ertz starting, but hoping by 2026 he'll be worth the draft capitol I gave up.
A little rich for me and I like Sinnott. He got dropped in one of my dynasty leagues and I drafted him at 4.05 in my league.
Feel like I got good value. I would think he is more like a 3rd round rookie right now.
Da Franchise
Footballguy
Thanks that’s my line of thinking as well. Figure Kittle has at least one more high quality season after this one and two years is plenty of time to find a younger TE replacement.
Also, in this crazy unbalanced league, starting Hock and Jefferson every week puts a lower ceiling than even a same tier TE from another team than Minnesota, much less a tier up. And I’m not exactly counting on Aaron Jones much but if I need to start him it’s 3/8ths of my starting lineup from an offense that isn’t being run by Kirk Cousins anymore. I’m a big believer in McCarthy but am expecting a lower volume offense.
Big Nate
Footballguy
I know Jones is getting older but they may run him out of his shoes this year to protect McCarthy.
The only part that would be relative to FFPC is when I wrote: "Not sure in non-TEP but no one I'd want to roster."I think he's worth more like a 5th at best in TEP. Not sure in non-TEP but no one I'd want to roster.12 team SF Best Ball PPR Dynasty league
Gave: 2027 2nd and 2026 4th
Got: Sinnott
He might not do much this year with Ertz starting, but hoping by 2026 he'll be worth the draft capitol I gave up.
A little rich for me and I like Sinnott. He got dropped in one of my dynasty leagues and I drafted him at 4.05 in my league.
Feel like I got good value. I would think he is more like a 3rd round rookie right now.
In non-TEP you could draft guys like Taylor, Arroyoa and Ferguson in the 3rd-4th, Gadsen even later and all of them clearly more valuable.
This is nothing at all like a Trey McBride situation.
I think it's an overpay but I would assume you're both talking about short roster FFPC leagues here right? I think Sinnott has more value in a traditional league where it's easier to roster guys that are just sitting for a few years. FFPC is kind of a different beast for guys like this and the league format depresses their value a lot.
Other then that I still don't put a high value on him. Where I'd rank him among other rookie TE's and overall would not change.
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
The only part that would be relative to FFPC is when I wrote: "Not sure in non-TEP but no one I'd want to roster."I think he's worth more like a 5th at best in TEP. Not sure in non-TEP but no one I'd want to roster.12 team SF Best Ball PPR Dynasty league
Gave: 2027 2nd and 2026 4th
Got: Sinnott
He might not do much this year with Ertz starting, but hoping by 2026 he'll be worth the draft capitol I gave up.
A little rich for me and I like Sinnott. He got dropped in one of my dynasty leagues and I drafted him at 4.05 in my league.
Feel like I got good value. I would think he is more like a 3rd round rookie right now.
In non-TEP you could draft guys like Taylor, Arroyoa and Ferguson in the 3rd-4th, Gadsen even later and all of them clearly more valuable.
This is nothing at all like a Trey McBride situation.
I think it's an overpay but I would assume you're both talking about short roster FFPC leagues here right? I think Sinnott has more value in a traditional league where it's easier to roster guys that are just sitting for a few years. FFPC is kind of a different beast for guys like this and the league format depresses their value a lot.
Other then that I still don't put a high value on him. Where I'd rank him among other rookie TE's and overall would not change.
Okay fair enough but in a non short-roster league his consensus value is much higher than a 5th. Obviously doesn't mean you can't still value him that low but his trade calc value is more around a mid/late 2nd in traditional non-FFPC TE premium leagues.
Ok but that seems nuts to me, guy showed zero. If anything I'd probably value him even less in larger roster leagues because I'd rather draft a rookie to hold instead. I'm sure if my roster was 30 I'd still not value him more then a 5th.The only part that would be relative to FFPC is when I wrote: "Not sure in non-TEP but no one I'd want to roster."I think he's worth more like a 5th at best in TEP. Not sure in non-TEP but no one I'd want to roster.12 team SF Best Ball PPR Dynasty league
Gave: 2027 2nd and 2026 4th
Got: Sinnott
He might not do much this year with Ertz starting, but hoping by 2026 he'll be worth the draft capitol I gave up.
A little rich for me and I like Sinnott. He got dropped in one of my dynasty leagues and I drafted him at 4.05 in my league.
Feel like I got good value. I would think he is more like a 3rd round rookie right now.
In non-TEP you could draft guys like Taylor, Arroyoa and Ferguson in the 3rd-4th, Gadsen even later and all of them clearly more valuable.
This is nothing at all like a Trey McBride situation.
I think it's an overpay but I would assume you're both talking about short roster FFPC leagues here right? I think Sinnott has more value in a traditional league where it's easier to roster guys that are just sitting for a few years. FFPC is kind of a different beast for guys like this and the league format depresses their value a lot.
Other then that I still don't put a high value on him. Where I'd rank him among other rookie TE's and overall would not change.
Okay fair enough but in a non short-roster league his consensus value is much higher than a 5th. Obviously doesn't mean you can't still value him that low but his trade calc value is more around a mid/late 2nd in traditional non-FFPC TE premium leagues.
ETA-I don't use trade calcs much but when I do I use the one on this site and just out of curiousity I ran Sinnot's assuming FFPC lineup and scoring. This does not let you adjust for league size. Sinnot's value was is 27% of a 2026 second, 72.5% of a 2026 third and 145% OVER a 4th. So pretty different trade calc value, again you can't adjust league size on this one. But my main point again is if a larger roster size allows me to hold onto projects/rookies longer I'd rather draft a different project or rookie with a 4th round range to hold onto then Sinnott.
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Footballguy
Same league, team B then shipped the 4 and JSN for the 1, jatavion sanders and 2.16.
The team trading the 1 had let it known the pick could be had for a WR / picks and has Gibbs, Breece and Pacheco. He could be a contender for years if things pan out.
kutta
Footballguy
My JSN love has been professed for a couple years now. If I had the 1.01 I’d take the 1.04 and JSN for it.
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Footballguy
Yep.
I have the other copy of JSN, wouldn’t have packaged him with the 4 (I think Hampton) for Jeanty.
joey
Footballguy
I assume the team getting Kamara is desperate for an RB.
In a vacuum, I take McLauren in that up and coming offense with a young QB.
BespokeJort
Footballguy
12 team .5ppr QWWRRTFFD
Josh Allen and James cook
For
Lamar Jackson and Breece Hall
Josh Allen and James cook
For
Lamar Jackson and Breece Hall
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Not a Walker believer but I Agee it’s not close
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Footballguy
3 trades in the two days trading has been open.
Today’s - defending champ gave up 1.16, 26 1st and 3rd for AJ brown.
ex-ghost
Footballguy
Seems a fair price for AJ.
warpig33
Footballguy
This in a 16 team salary cap league with up to 5 years assigned per contract:
I gave: JaMarr Chase (final year of his contract), PJ Locke, Jeremiah Trotter Jr., and 4.07
I got: Jaylen Waddle, Travis Kelce (final year of his contract), 1.13, and 2.13
My only TE before I made the trade was Juwan Johnson so Kelce was a welcome addition. And the only RBs I had were Pacheco and Jaylen Warren. I turned the 1.13 into Quinshon Judkins (to pair with TreVeyon Henderson) and the 2.13 into Elijah Arroyo. Now my WRs are Malik Nabors, BTJ, Puka, Luke McCaffrey, and Waddle (which made it easier to trade Chase).
I gave: JaMarr Chase (final year of his contract), PJ Locke, Jeremiah Trotter Jr., and 4.07
I got: Jaylen Waddle, Travis Kelce (final year of his contract), 1.13, and 2.13
My only TE before I made the trade was Juwan Johnson so Kelce was a welcome addition. And the only RBs I had were Pacheco and Jaylen Warren. I turned the 1.13 into Quinshon Judkins (to pair with TreVeyon Henderson) and the 2.13 into Elijah Arroyo. Now my WRs are Malik Nabors, BTJ, Puka, Luke McCaffrey, and Waddle (which made it easier to trade Chase).
InDitkaWeTrust
Footballguy
Can you resign players or are they back into the FA pool after their contract is done? Either way, seems a bit light for Chase.
