** Official ** Eagles 2008 Thread (1 Viewer)

[Jeff Pasquino]

What I'm hearing about Fitz: while Arizona seems to be willing to make some concessions in trading Fitz, it's Fitz himself that is making things much harder. He seems unwilling to restructure that 16+ million dollar cap hit and it's looking less and less like Fitz is going anywhere. This came from info I got last night, so the info might already be old. As for Jared Allen, my guy hasn't heard anything past the initial inquiry the Eagles made regarding him. Lito was offered, but he's pretty sure the picks side of the rumor was fabricated by the guy on the KC blog.

If Fitz gets $20-30M up front on a 7-year deal that is more cap friendly (say $30M bonus, 7 years, $70M) that might change his tune.I'm speculating - I don't recall what the annual salaries should fall in line with - TO had a 3-year, $25M deal in Dallas.

 

[PHILLYHAWK]

The Clemmens press conderence is scheduled for 3:30 today.

He should be a pass rush specialist splitting time with Victor Abiamiri (2nd rnd pick last year).

They still need a special teams guy and another WR.

I have a feeling that they will be drafting an O Tackle to eventually replace John Runyon or Tre Thomas.

(My guess is Chris Williams from Vanderbilt)

 

[Domination]

The Clemmens press conderence is scheduled for 3:30 today.He should be a pass rush specialist splitting time with Victor Abiamiri (2nd rnd pick last year).They still need a special teams guy and another WR.I have a feeling that they will be drafting an O Tackle to eventually replace John Runyon or Tre Thomas.

I like Williams from Vandy in the 1st.

 

[PHILLYHAWK]

The Clemmens press conderence is scheduled for 3:30 today.He should be a pass rush specialist splitting time with Victor Abiamiri (2nd rnd pick last year).They still need a special teams guy and another WR.I have a feeling that they will be drafting an O Tackle to eventually replace John Runyon or Tre Thomas.

I like Williams from Vandy in the 1st.

Funny...I was just editing my post to say Williams.AS long as they address their other needs I think most fans are ok with this.

 

[Domination]

After fast and furious yesterday, it is too quiet today.

 

[shimtown]

http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/Sto...?story_id=15177

3:08 p.m.

It's official: The Eagles have signed Chris Clemons to a five-year contract. He meets the media at 3:30 p.m.

 

[Deranged Hermit]

What I'm hearing about Fitz: while Arizona seems to be willing to make some concessions in trading Fitz, it's Fitz himself that is making things much harder. He seems unwilling to restructure that 16+ million dollar cap hit and it's looking less and less like Fitz is going anywhere. This came from info I got last night, so the info might already be old.

As for Jared Allen, my guy hasn't heard anything past the initial inquiry the Eagles made regarding him. Lito was offered, but he's pretty sure the picks side of the rumor was fabricated by the guy on the KC blog.

If Fitz gets $20-30M up front on a 7-year deal that is more cap friendly (say $30M bonus, 7 years, $70M) that might change his tune.I'm speculating - I don't recall what the annual salaries should fall in line with - TO had a 3-year, $25M deal in Dallas.

I thought the same thing, but Fitz's people seem to be taking a hard line about getting that 16 MIL this year and THAN get a siging bonus on top of that when they renegoiate the deal.. NO ONE will give him that.

 

[JaxBill]

So with the signing of Clemons and Samuel, if the draft was held tomorrow, what would be the Eagles' biggest need? WR? Another (every down) DE? DT?

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

So with the signing of Clemons and Samuel, if the draft was held tomorrow, what would be the Eagles' biggest need? WR? Another (every down) DE? DT?

WR, OL, S, KR/PR, TE and not necessarily in that order.I'd like to see DeSean Jackson now, but only if they get a big WR in FA.

 

[Pat Patriot]

So with the signing of Clemons and Samuel, if the draft was held tomorrow, what would be the Eagles' biggest need? WR? Another (every down) DE? DT?

WR, OL, S, KR/PR, TE and not necessarily in that order.I'd like to see DeSean Jackson now, but only if they get a big WR in FA.

I think Kenny Phillips would look GREAT in an Eagles uniform. They would then use their 2nd or 3rd on a CB/KR. Tracey Porter would be great for them.

 

[Game Time]

As of now, I think they go OT....... If Phillips is there, they'd take him IMO

 

[Deranged Hermit]

As of now, I think they go OT....... If Phillips is there, they'd take him IMO

I think they absolutely go OT in the first, unless a top line DE falls.

 

[Jason Wood]

Eagles are committed to BPA; so worrying about need is a little misguided when discussing their draft plans. However, given the vast number of draft picks they have; and Reid's history of moving up to grab someone he likes, I DO think they will target a few specific players in the first round with an eye toward moving up to get one of them if the opportunity presents itself.

I'm with Pasquino, DeSean Jackson is the guy I want. He's speedy, sure handed and would give the team its best returner in ages.

Ultimately I think Philly will grab at least two lineman in the draft; although there aren't that many openings on the active roster. Tra and Runyan are locks at tackle. Herremans and Big Cat are locks at guard. JJ is a lock at center. And Max Jean-Gilles is a lock as a backup. It would take someone quite talented to make the roster and/or displace Winston Justice [who I doubt breaks camp with the team].

I also think the Eagles won't hesitate to upgrade the TE position. For as much of a feel good story Brent Celek may have been, he has no future as a starter in the league and is imminently replaceable. The Eagles could conceivably field an entirely revamped TE corps in 2009; particularly if L.J. Smith doesn't play his way into a long-term extension by mid-year.

 

[Jason Wood]

He's not the WR I would've hoped for, but I strongly suspect the Birds will sign Javon Walker. He and McNabb are boys and train together in ARZ. Obviously that won't mean much if someone like Danny Snyder is willing to break the bank and sign him, but if all the offers are in the same ballpark, I fear JW will be an Eagle.

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

He's not the WR I would've hoped for, but I strongly suspect the Birds will sign Javon Walker. He and McNabb are boys and train together in ARZ. Obviously that won't mean much if someone like Danny Snyder is willing to break the bank and sign him, but if all the offers are in the same ballpark, I fear JW will be an Eagle.

Best part of signing JW is that we wont have to see Greg Lewis on this team any more.

 

[Jason Wood]

He's not the WR I would've hoped for, but I strongly suspect the Birds will sign Javon Walker. He and McNabb are boys and train together in ARZ. Obviously that won't mean much if someone like Danny Snyder is willing to break the bank and sign him, but if all the offers are in the same ballpark, I fear JW will be an Eagle.

Best part of signing JW is that we wont have to see Greg Lewis on this team any more.

10 teams are interested in Walker, so let's not put the cart before the horse.

 

[PHILLYHAWK]

He's not the WR I would've hoped for, but I strongly suspect the Birds will sign Javon Walker. He and McNabb are boys and train together in ARZ. Obviously that won't mean much if someone like Danny Snyder is willing to break the bank and sign him, but if all the offers are in the same ballpark, I fear JW will be an Eagle.

Best part of signing JW is that we wont have to see Greg Lewis on this team any more.

10 teams are interested in Walker, so let's not put the cart before the horse.

Word from one of the sports guys here is that Walker's knee is shot and would be too big an injury risk.As for you draft opinion...

True that they select best player available...

As long as they are at what they consider a premium position (DL, OL, Secondary, QB)

There are no TEs on the draft that merit a first round pick.

They have drafted a WR ONCE in the first round in the past 10 years (Freddie Mitchell)

Let's have a little sig bet...

I say they draft an O lineman or D Lineman in the first round.

 

[Jason Wood]

He's not the WR I would've hoped for, but I strongly suspect the Birds will sign Javon Walker. He and McNabb are boys and train together in ARZ. Obviously that won't mean much if someone like Danny Snyder is willing to break the bank and sign him, but if all the offers are in the same ballpark, I fear JW will be an Eagle.

Best part of signing JW is that we wont have to see Greg Lewis on this team any more.

10 teams are interested in Walker, so let's not put the cart before the horse.

Word from one of the sports guys here is that Walker's knee is shot and would be too big an injury risk.As for you draft opinion...

True that they select best player available...

As long as they are at what they consider a premium position (DL, OL, Secondary, QB)

There are no TEs on the draft that merit a first round pick.

They have drafted a WR ONCE in the first round in the past 10 years (Freddie Mitchell)

Let's have a little sig bet...

I say they draft an O lineman or D Lineman in the first round.

Hey Phillyhawk,I would be VERY leery about listening to "sports guys" from Philly sports talk. You may have seen from another thread my frustration at just how stupid Philly radio jocks are; it's absolutely stultifying to me how ill informed these guys are about sports. So far this offseason I've heard three hosts on WIP question the Asante Samuel signing for the following reasons:

*** "We didn't need help on defense, we need offense" [Eagles were dead last in takeaways last year]

*** "We could've signed 3 or 4 players for the money we're paying Asante" [we have plenty of cap room, and it's about signing stars not extra bodies]

*** "Lito is as good as Samuel and is a lot cheaper" [Lito has missed 14 games in 3 years, is #####ing about his contract, and isn't as good]

That said, Walker isn't going to be signed by ANYONE without passing a rigorous physical. And this idea that his "knee is shot" just doesn't hold water because he's been training with McNabb in Arizona and, again, will have to work out and get tested before any deal.

To be clear, I'm leery of signing Walker; I wonder if he's the answer. I can never trust anyone that's driven himself out of two excellent organizations; particularly when both teams had plenty of need for a big, playmaking WR at the time of his dismissal.

 

[delusional]

Not sold on Deshaun Jackson. He looked VERY small at the combine.

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

Not sold on Deshaun Jackson. He looked VERY small at the combine.

Agreed, I am James Hardy guy myself. I would rather see the Eagles with a big body if McNabb is going to be our QB, he needs a large target IMO, not a faster one.

 

[scratcher]

Eagles are committed to BPA; so worrying about need is a little misguided when discussing their draft plans. However, given the vast number of draft picks they have; and Reid's history of moving up to grab someone he likes, I DO think they will target a few specific players in the first round with an eye toward moving up to get one of them if the opportunity presents itself.I'm with Pasquino, DeSean Jackson is the guy I want. He's speedy, sure handed and would give the team its best returner in ages. Ultimately I think Philly will grab at least two lineman in the draft; although there aren't that many openings on the active roster. Tra and Runyan are locks at tackle. Herremans and Big Cat are locks at guard. JJ is a lock at center. And Max Jean-Gilles is a lock as a backup. It would take someone quite talented to make the roster and/or displace Winston Justice [who I doubt breaks camp with the team].I also think the Eagles won't hesitate to upgrade the TE position. For as much of a feel good story Brent Celek may have been, he has no future as a starter in the league and is imminently replaceable. The Eagles could conceivably field an entirely revamped TE corps in 2009; particularly if L.J. Smith doesn't play his way into a long-term extension by mid-year.

I'm doubtful that the Eagles will spend a 1st rounder on a WR but I agree that he seems like a very good option for the Eagles. Why do you say Celek "has no future as a starter." If anything, I thought he showed promise last year and made best of the limited time he had. How can you say with certainty that he will amount to nothing when the limited showing he had was relatively good last year?BTW, curious about the Big Cat nickname. I've seen you use it alot but as far as I know, his nickname is "The Big Kid." Is that a throwback to his college days?

 

[JaxBill]

Eagles are committed to BPA; so worrying about need is a little misguided when discussing their draft plans. However, given the vast number of draft picks they have; and Reid's history of moving up to grab someone he likes, I DO think they will target a few specific players in the first round with an eye toward moving up to get one of them if the opportunity presents itself.

I'm with Pasquino, DeSean Jackson is the guy I want. He's speedy, sure handed and would give the team its best returner in ages.

Ultimately I think Philly will grab at least two lineman in the draft; although there aren't that many openings on the active roster. Tra and Runyan are locks at tackle. Herremans and Big Cat are locks at guard. JJ is a lock at center. And Max Jean-Gilles is a lock as a backup. It would take someone quite talented to make the roster and/or displace Winston Justice [who I doubt breaks camp with the team].

I also think the Eagles won't hesitate to upgrade the TE position. For as much of a feel good story Brent Celek may have been, he has no future as a starter in the league and is imminently replaceable. The Eagles could conceivably field an entirely revamped TE corps in 2009; particularly if L.J. Smith doesn't play his way into a long-term extension by mid-year.

I guess that's one of my questions as well. After Justice's turnstile effort against the Giants, are the Eagles ready to just give up on him? Reid loves to stock up on linemen. They obviously need a young tackle.I agree Celek really isn't a starting TE, but I think he's a decent second TE. He's a guy that defenses aren't afraid of but he's not going to hurt you.

 

[PHILLYHAWK]

He's not the WR I would've hoped for, but I strongly suspect the Birds will sign Javon Walker. He and McNabb are boys and train together in ARZ. Obviously that won't mean much if someone like Danny Snyder is willing to break the bank and sign him, but if all the offers are in the same ballpark, I fear JW will be an Eagle.

Best part of signing JW is that we wont have to see Greg Lewis on this team any more.

10 teams are interested in Walker, so let's not put the cart before the horse.

Word from one of the sports guys here is that Walker's knee is shot and would be too big an injury risk.As for you draft opinion...

True that they select best player available...

As long as they are at what they consider a premium position (DL, OL, Secondary, QB)

There are no TEs on the draft that merit a first round pick.

They have drafted a WR ONCE in the first round in the past 10 years (Freddie Mitchell)

Let's have a little sig bet...

I say they draft an O lineman or D Lineman in the first round.

Hey Phillyhawk,I would be VERY leery about listening to "sports guys" from Philly sports talk. You may have seen from another thread my frustration at just how stupid Philly radio jocks are; it's absolutely stultifying to me how ill informed these guys are about sports. So far this offseason I've heard three hosts on WIP question the Asante Samuel signing for the following reasons:

*** "We didn't need help on defense, we need offense" [Eagles were dead last in takeaways last year]

*** "We could've signed 3 or 4 players for the money we're paying Asante" [we have plenty of cap room, and it's about signing stars not extra bodies]

*** "Lito is as good as Samuel and is a lot cheaper" [Lito has missed 14 games in 3 years, is #####ing about his contract, and isn't as good]

That said, Walker isn't going to be signed by ANYONE without passing a rigorous physical. And this idea that his "knee is shot" just doesn't hold water because he's been training with McNabb in Arizona and, again, will have to work out and get tested before any deal.

To be clear, I'm leery of signing Walker; I wonder if he's the answer. I can never trust anyone that's driven himself out of two excellent organizations; particularly when both teams had plenty of need for a big, playmaking WR at the time of his dismissal.

No doubt that the WIP guys throw every rumor out there and hopes it sticks...But the Walker information came from Anthony Gargano, who I think is above the rest of the rumor starters.

His NFL "sources" told him that Walker's knee is in bad shape.

As for the Defense help...

I agree that it does need help. The most important thing for them to do is to be able to get pressure on the qb without having to blitz every time.

As for the draft...

Do you really think the Eagles could draft a WR?

I just dont see it happening, especially with the number of quality Offensive Lineman going to be there when they pick.

If they trade up I think it will be for one of the Defensive Linemen.

I'd just be very suprised if they don't draft a lineman.

 

[Jason Wood]

He's not the WR I would've hoped for, but I strongly suspect the Birds will sign Javon Walker. He and McNabb are boys and train together in ARZ. Obviously that won't mean much if someone like Danny Snyder is willing to break the bank and sign him, but if all the offers are in the same ballpark, I fear JW will be an Eagle.

Best part of signing JW is that we wont have to see Greg Lewis on this team any more.

10 teams are interested in Walker, so let's not put the cart before the horse.

Word from one of the sports guys here is that Walker's knee is shot and would be too big an injury risk.As for you draft opinion...

True that they select best player available...

As long as they are at what they consider a premium position (DL, OL, Secondary, QB)

There are no TEs on the draft that merit a first round pick.

They have drafted a WR ONCE in the first round in the past 10 years (Freddie Mitchell)

Let's have a little sig bet...

I say they draft an O lineman or D Lineman in the first round.

Hey Phillyhawk,I would be VERY leery about listening to "sports guys" from Philly sports talk. You may have seen from another thread my frustration at just how stupid Philly radio jocks are; it's absolutely stultifying to me how ill informed these guys are about sports. So far this offseason I've heard three hosts on WIP question the Asante Samuel signing for the following reasons:

*** "We didn't need help on defense, we need offense" [Eagles were dead last in takeaways last year]

*** "We could've signed 3 or 4 players for the money we're paying Asante" [we have plenty of cap room, and it's about signing stars not extra bodies]

*** "Lito is as good as Samuel and is a lot cheaper" [Lito has missed 14 games in 3 years, is #####ing about his contract, and isn't as good]

That said, Walker isn't going to be signed by ANYONE without passing a rigorous physical. And this idea that his "knee is shot" just doesn't hold water because he's been training with McNabb in Arizona and, again, will have to work out and get tested before any deal.

To be clear, I'm leery of signing Walker; I wonder if he's the answer. I can never trust anyone that's driven himself out of two excellent organizations; particularly when both teams had plenty of need for a big, playmaking WR at the time of his dismissal.

No doubt that the WIP guys throw every rumor out there and hopes it sticks...But the Walker information came from Anthony Gargano, who I think is above the rest of the rumor starters.

His NFL "sources" told him that Walker's knee is in bad shape.

As for the Defense help...

I agree that it does need help. The most important thing for them to do is to be able to get pressure on the qb without having to blitz every time.

As for the draft...

Do you really think the Eagles could draft a WR?

I just dont see it happening, especially with the number of quality Offensive Lineman going to be there when they pick.

If they trade up I think it will be for one of the Defensive Linemen.

I'd just be very suprised if they don't draft a lineman.

The Birds have to be feeling good about their ability to develop OL talent; I don't think they view the situation as "1st round or bust." I also don't think the Eagles decision to pass on a WR in the 1st round would preclude them from taking one or two later.The Birds have tons of flexibility right now, which is why I think there is more than smoke to some of these trade rumors. The Eagles currently have EIGHT picks come April and look assured of at least two compensatory picks (both expected to be 3rd, 4th or 5th rounders). Some believe the Birds could have as many as 12 picks once the compensatories are given out in March.

The team isn't going to keep more than three or four rookies on this roster as currently constituted, meaning plenty of aggressive use of those picks for players now or for higher picks in 2009 and beyond.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

I'm with Pasquino, DeSean Jackson is the guy I want. He's speedy, sure handed and would give the team its best returner in ages.

Sounds like the Kiss of Death though....

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Not sold on Deshaun Jackson. He looked VERY small at the combine.

How big are Steve Smith and Devin Hester?Give me 80% of both of those guys in one package and I'm sold. IDK enough about DeSean, but that sounds like his upside.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Not sold on Deshaun Jackson. He looked VERY small at the combine.

Agreed, I am James Hardy guy myself. I would rather see the Eagles with a big body if McNabb is going to be our QB, he needs a large target IMO, not a faster one.

I only want a big WR if he can beat press coverage. That's the problem. Baskett, Avant and Brown are plenty big enough but they can't get open often enough.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Someone care to run down how many picks the Eagles have, and why they have so many?

I keep hearing that Philly has a bunch but I don't follow where they came from. TIA.

 

[dotman]

Eagles are committed to BPA; so worrying about need is a little misguided when discussing their draft plans. However, given the vast number of draft picks they have; and Reid's history of moving up to grab someone he likes, I DO think they will target a few specific players in the first round with an eye toward moving up to get one of them if the opportunity presents itself.I'm with Pasquino, DeSean Jackson is the guy I want. He's speedy, sure handed and would give the team its best returner in ages. Ultimately I think Philly will grab at least two lineman in the draft; although there aren't that many openings on the active roster. Tra and Runyan are locks at tackle. Herremans and Big Cat are locks at guard. JJ is a lock at center. And Max Jean-Gilles is a lock as a backup. It would take someone quite talented to make the roster and/or displace Winston Justice [who I doubt breaks camp with the team].I also think the Eagles won't hesitate to upgrade the TE position. For as much of a feel good story Brent Celek may have been, he has no future as a starter in the league and is imminently replaceable. The Eagles could conceivably field an entirely revamped TE corps in 2009; particularly if L.J. Smith doesn't play his way into a long-term extension by mid-year.

What have you seen from Celek that made you say that? He stood out in camp to me last year, I thought he caught the ball very naturally and he just seemed very fluid overall. On top of that he made a couple nice plays towards the end of the year. TE's tend to take a few years before they have an impact, so I just can't see where you're coming from. I realize his blocking will probably never be great but I think he has decent upside as a receiving TE.

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

Not sold on Deshaun Jackson. He looked VERY small at the combine.

Agreed, I am James Hardy guy myself. I would rather see the Eagles with a big body if McNabb is going to be our QB, he needs a large target IMO, not a faster one.

I only want a big WR if he can beat press coverage. That's the problem. Baskett, Avant and Brown are plenty big enough but they can't get open often enough.

I will assume you have watched every Eagles game and thus do you really think the Eagles problem is their WRs getting open? I know thats what all the commentators say yadda yadda yadda. However time I see any "coach" film I always see open WRs, I just do not see McNabb making the anticipatory throw. With a speed WR you are asking the QB to throw to a spot while the WR is on the run, I do not think this is McNabb's strong suit. I am not trying to bash McNabb, I just know what I have seen over the past 9 years and having a speedy WR isnt something that I believe blends well with his game.I would also point out that the Eagles offense did not have a hard time moving the ball down the field. Their offense struggled in the red zone simply because they have 0 red zone threats. Besides LJ, there isn't one WR on this team that has shown any sort of productivity in the end zone. I will take Kevin Curtis for my speed routes and give me a big body who can actually swivel his hips and catch a jump ball, thats what the Birds need.

 

[Jason Wood]

Someone care to run down how many picks the Eagles have, and why they have so many?I keep hearing that Philly has a bunch but I don't follow where they came from. TIA.

I posted this earlier in another thread...We have our own picks in rounds 1 through 6. We also have a 6th and 7th rounder acquired in trades. We are also expected to net as many as four compensatory picks when they are awarded later this month, with it being very likely two of them are at the higher end of the range (3rd, 4th or 5th rounders). We should have a minimum of 10 picks and as many as 12; depending on how the compensatories play out.

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

Someone care to run down how many picks the Eagles have, and why they have so many?

I keep hearing that Philly has a bunch but I don't follow where they came from. TIA.

The Eagles have their own selections in rounds 1 through 6. Their seventh-round pick was traded to Buffalo along with defensive tackle Darwin Walker for linebacker Takeo Spikes and quarterback Kelly Holcomb. The Eagles also have two picks acquired via trade - from Seattle (seventh round) for fullback Josh Parry and from Cleveland (sixth round) for center Hank Fraley.Compensatory picks will also be awarded for the loss of free agents following the 2006 season. Those will be announced in March. Compensatory picks cannot be traded.

Linkage

 

[Bushead]

Someone care to run down how many picks the Eagles have, and why they have so many?

I keep hearing that Philly has a bunch but I don't follow where they came from. TIA.

Eagles WebsiteThe Eagles have their own selections in rounds 1 through 6. Their seventh-round pick was traded to Buffalo along with defensive tackle Darwin Walker for linebacker Takeo Spikes and quarterback Kelly Holcomb. The Eagles also have two picks acquired via trade - from Seattle (seventh round) for fullback Josh Parry and from Cleveland (sixth round) for center Hank Fraley.

They are also expected to get 2-4 compensatory picks

 

[maddawg2020]

Why would anyone expect SO many compensatory picks? Who did they lose in FA last year that would deserve great picks.

WR- D. Stallworth

SS- M. Lewis

QB- J. Garcia

They added WR- Curtis who had a decent (not great) season.

You mean to tell me that those three guys offset Curtis' so much that they'd be worth four mid-round picks? Are you kidding? As an Eagle fan I hope they get as many picks as possible but I'd be surprised if they get anything more than one or two low round picks (6th/7th rounders at best). That's all.

Am I missing something?

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Not sold on Deshaun Jackson. He looked VERY small at the combine.

Agreed, I am James Hardy guy myself. I would rather see the Eagles with a big body if McNabb is going to be our QB, he needs a large target IMO, not a faster one.

I only want a big WR if he can beat press coverage. That's the problem. Baskett, Avant and Brown are plenty big enough but they can't get open often enough.

I will assume you have watched every Eagles game and thus do you really think the Eagles problem is their WRs getting open? I know thats what all the commentators say yadda yadda yadda. However time I see any "coach" film I always see open WRs, I just do not see McNabb making the anticipatory throw. With a speed WR you are asking the QB to throw to a spot while the WR is on the run, I do not think this is McNabb's strong suit. I am not trying to bash McNabb, I just know what I have seen over the past 9 years and having a speedy WR isnt something that I believe blends well with his game.I would also point out that the Eagles offense did not have a hard time moving the ball down the field. Their offense struggled in the red zone simply because they have 0 red zone threats. Besides LJ, there isn't one WR on this team that has shown any sort of productivity in the end zone. I will take Kevin Curtis for my speed routes and give me a big body who can actually swivel his hips and catch a jump ball, thats what the Birds need.

Whenever I see press coverage, I shudder. They don't get much separation if any and struggle out of the blocks - and yes all of them. Reggie Brown is the best, which isn't saying a ton.The biggest offensive game last year was vs. Detroit, and they didn't play press coverage.When Curtis gets a free release, he's very effective.The other issue is McNabb. He wants a guy wide open or with separation BEFORE he throws. He's not that precise to try and squeeze it in to close quarters. I don't know if that's a confidence issue in himself or his receivers, but it was certainly a problem last year and in year's past. He has been better than that at times, and IIRC he was better in Nov/Dec last year than in the first half of the year, but combine that with press coverage and I see issues.So - yeah - give me a big WR1 who can beat press coverage and I'd be very happy.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

TYVM for the picks info.

 

[scratcher]

EAGLES, 'SKINS OUT OF WALKER SWEEPSTAKESA league source tells us that the Philadelphia Eagles and the Washington Redskins are no longer among the teams interested in acquiring the services of receiver Javon Walker.There's a suspicion that Walker's agent is puffing in this regard, overstating to the media the interest in the player in an effort to create a market for him.Walker was traded from the Packers to the Broncos in 2006, and was released recently in order to avoid a significant roster bonus.

 

[Pat Patriot]

Someone care to run down how many picks the Eagles have, and why they have so many?I keep hearing that Philly has a bunch but I don't follow where they came from. TIA.

I posted this earlier in another thread...We have our own picks in rounds 1 through 6. We also have a 6th and 7th rounder acquired in trades. We are also expected to net as many as four compensatory picks when they are awarded later this month, with it being very likely two of them are at the higher end of the range (3rd, 4th or 5th rounders). We should have a minimum of 10 picks and as many as 12; depending on how the compensatories play out.

Not trying to bust you balls but it is hard to get all jazzed up about a bunch of extra 6th and 7th round picks. I dont see getting a 3rd round pick based on the the signings that are listed.To say that Reid can use these picks to move up and get who he wants is being a bit optimistic.

 

[Jason Wood]

Someone care to run down how many picks the Eagles have, and why they have so many?I keep hearing that Philly has a bunch but I don't follow where they came from. TIA.

I posted this earlier in another thread...We have our own picks in rounds 1 through 6. We also have a 6th and 7th rounder acquired in trades. We are also expected to net as many as four compensatory picks when they are awarded later this month, with it being very likely two of them are at the higher end of the range (3rd, 4th or 5th rounders). We should have a minimum of 10 picks and as many as 12; depending on how the compensatories play out.

Not trying to bust you balls but it is hard to get all jazzed up about a bunch of extra 6th and 7th round picks. I dont see getting a 3rd round pick based on the the signings that are listed.To say that Reid can use these picks to move up and get who he wants is being a bit optimistic.

I'm by no means an expert in compensatory picks; just relaying that many people who do pay attention to this sort of thing expect the Eagles to receive multiple compensatory picks, including a 3rd rounder. If it happens, we'll have an embarrassment of riches. As to the moving up, you misunderstand. It's very typical particularly on Day Two to use 5th, 6th and 7th rounders to move up in a given round. Since we have zero interest in drafting 8-12 guys, that's what we're assuredly going to do.

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

Just remember you can not trade any of your compensatory picks. That being said my hope is that the Eagles stay where they are at 19 and use any other picks to trade up into the 2nd round. I believe this draft will still have some pretty decent talent in the 2nd and if we could come away with 3 players in the first two rounds I would be very happy.

 

[dotman]

Someone care to run down how many picks the Eagles have, and why they have so many?I keep hearing that Philly has a bunch but I don't follow where they came from. TIA.

I posted this earlier in another thread...We have our own picks in rounds 1 through 6. We also have a 6th and 7th rounder acquired in trades. We are also expected to net as many as four compensatory picks when they are awarded later this month, with it being very likely two of them are at the higher end of the range (3rd, 4th or 5th rounders). We should have a minimum of 10 picks and as many as 12; depending on how the compensatories play out.

Not trying to bust you balls but it is hard to get all jazzed up about a bunch of extra 6th and 7th round picks. I dont see getting a 3rd round pick based on the the signings that are listed.To say that Reid can use these picks to move up and get who he wants is being a bit optimistic.

Trent Cole and Omar Gaither were 5th rounders. I mean yeah, when you don't know who you might get you don't get really excited now, but they have value for sure.

 

[dotman]

Just remember you can not trade any of your compensatory picks. That being said my hope is that the Eagles stay where they are at 19 and use any other picks to trade up into the 2nd round. I believe this draft will still have some pretty decent talent in the 2nd and if we could come away with 3 players in the first two rounds I would be very happy.

Especially if the Eagles get a top WR via trade (which I think they will), then the draft will just be gravy.

 

[southeastjerome]

I posted this in the 'Skins offseason forum, but figured you guys might want to check it out.

Lito Sheppard/Other Stuff

I mentioned Lito Sheppard a few days ago as a possibility and indeed it was. Despite the fact the Eagles are in the NFC East, Philadelphia has contacted Washington several times about Sheppard in recent weeks - more or less since the combine - knowing the Redskins have a need at CB.

The Redskins rebuffed Philly, however, league sources said. They do not want to do a huge contract right now, they have concerns about Sheppard's ability to stay healthy and they are not inclined to give up high draft picks right now. Philly was probing around on Shawn Springs, hoping to pry him, sources said, with the Eagles believing he could be highly effective at corner as well as safety with them already honing in on Asante Samuel quite some time ago. (The Redskins, meantime, had a lengthy dinner with agent Peter Schaffer during the combine - Schaffer is a big-time guy and Sheppard happens to be a client of his. While I do not know specifically if Sheppard's name came up during that meeting, several parties who happened to be in the same Indy restaurant that night believe it did. Regardless, the Skins have shown no desire to deal for him at this time and the Eagles continue to shop Sheppard).

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/

 

[awesomeness]

I posted this in the 'Skins offseason forum, but figured you guys might want to check it out.

Lito Sheppard/Other Stuff

I mentioned Lito Sheppard a few days ago as a possibility and indeed it was. Despite the fact the Eagles are in the NFC East, Philadelphia has contacted Washington several times about Sheppard in recent weeks - more or less since the combine - knowing the Redskins have a need at CB.

The Redskins rebuffed Philly, however, league sources said. They do not want to do a huge contract right now, they have concerns about Sheppard's ability to stay healthy and they are not inclined to give up high draft picks right now. Philly was probing around on Shawn Springs, hoping to pry him, sources said, with the Eagles believing he could be highly effective at corner as well as safety with them already honing in on Asante Samuel quite some time ago. (The Redskins, meantime, had a lengthy dinner with agent Peter Schaffer during the combine - Schaffer is a big-time guy and Sheppard happens to be a client of his. While I do not know specifically if Sheppard's name came up during that meeting, several parties who happened to be in the same Indy restaurant that night believe it did. Regardless, the Skins have shown no desire to deal for him at this time and the Eagles continue to shop Sheppard).

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/

i dont really understand that article. What is it exactly that the Redskins have that the Eagles would want? Trading Lito Sheppard for Shawn Springs and a draft pick? I

 

[phillyfan72]

Someone care to run down how many picks the Eagles have, and why they have so many?I keep hearing that Philly has a bunch but I don't follow where they came from. TIA.

I posted this earlier in another thread...We have our own picks in rounds 1 through 6. We also have a 6th and 7th rounder acquired in trades. We are also expected to net as many as four compensatory picks when they are awarded later this month, with it being very likely two of them are at the higher end of the range (3rd, 4th or 5th rounders). We should have a minimum of 10 picks and as many as 12; depending on how the compensatories play out.

Not trying to bust you balls but it is hard to get all jazzed up about a bunch of extra 6th and 7th round picks. I dont see getting a 3rd round pick based on the the signings that are listed.To say that Reid can use these picks to move up and get who he wants is being a bit optimistic.

Trent Cole and Omar Gaither were 5th rounders. I mean yeah, when you don't know who you might get you don't get really excited now, but they have value for sure.

You never know what you're gonna find in the later rounds, but having more picks is never a bad thing. If they find another Cole or Gaither in the later rounds, that's how good tams get great.

 

[awesomeness]

Someone care to run down how many picks the Eagles have, and why they have so many?I keep hearing that Philly has a bunch but I don't follow where they came from. TIA.

I posted this earlier in another thread...We have our own picks in rounds 1 through 6. We also have a 6th and 7th rounder acquired in trades. We are also expected to net as many as four compensatory picks when they are awarded later this month, with it being very likely two of them are at the higher end of the range (3rd, 4th or 5th rounders). We should have a minimum of 10 picks and as many as 12; depending on how the compensatories play out.

Not trying to bust you balls but it is hard to get all jazzed up about a bunch of extra 6th and 7th round picks. I dont see getting a 3rd round pick based on the the signings that are listed.To say that Reid can use these picks to move up and get who he wants is being a bit optimistic.

Trent Cole and Omar Gaither were 5th rounders. I mean yeah, when you don't know who you might get you don't get really excited now, but they have value for sure.

You never know what you're gonna find in the later rounds, but having more picks is never a bad thing. If they find another Cole or Gaither in the later rounds, that's how good tams get great.

Marques Colston was a supplemental compensatory pick in the 7th round.

 

[Jason Wood]

Pointing out 5th round gems and Marques Colston are nice, but they are rare exceptions you realize. And let's not pretend that Gaither is worth raving about yet. We know he can make open tackles, we don't know if he can be a difference maker and/or create opportune turnovers.

 

[Deranged Hermit]

Soooooo how would you guys like Jason Taylor in a Birds uniform?

Nothing concrete yet, just inquiries.....

 

[scratcher]

Soooooo how would you guys like Jason Taylor in a Birds uniform? Nothing concrete yet, just inquiries.....

you make me giddy...

 

[Deranged Hermit]

Soooooo how would you guys like Jason Taylor in a Birds uniform? Nothing concrete yet, just inquiries.....

you make me giddy...

Like I said, nothing concrete, but at least they're asking about his availability.