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Jeff Pasquino said:
unckeyherb said:
LTsharks said:
from gcobb.... could be interesting...

"Written by Garry Cobb

Mike Quick who is the analyst for the Eagles games with Merrill Reese says there will be news about Roy Williams before the week is out.

Mike Quick says he thinks the Birds are going to make a major move at the wide receiver position. He talked about Roy Williams and the potential that the Eagles will make a deal to acquire a wide receiver. He says there will be news on Roy Williams before the week is out.

That means the Cowboys, Redskins or the Eagles will probably wind up with the receiver before the week is out.

Mike just finished doing a live interview in a webcast with G. Cobb and Steve Martorano from Infiniti of Westchester and he says the Birds will try to do something this week. They're in a bidding a war right now.,

When asked about the Birds fear of being upstaged by the Phillies, Flyers and Sixers, Mike said he believes the Eagles are going to do something this weekend to take back all the attention."
do you have a link? I want to forward to some friends of mine.
Gcobb.com
thanks
 
Jeff Pasquino said:
unckeyherb said:
LTsharks said:
from gcobb.... could be interesting...

"Written by Garry Cobb

Mike Quick who is the analyst for the Eagles games with Merrill Reese says there will be news about Roy Williams before the week is out.

Mike Quick says he thinks the Birds are going to make a major move at the wide receiver position. He talked about Roy Williams and the potential that the Eagles will make a deal to acquire a wide receiver. He says there will be news on Roy Williams before the week is out.

That means the Cowboys, Redskins or the Eagles will probably wind up with the receiver before the week is out.

Mike just finished doing a live interview in a webcast with G. Cobb and Steve Martorano from Infiniti of Westchester and he says the Birds will try to do something this week. They're in a bidding a war right now.,

When asked about the Birds fear of being upstaged by the Phillies, Flyers and Sixers, Mike said he believes the Eagles are going to do something this weekend to take back all the attention."
do you have a link? I want to forward to some friends of mine.
Gcobb.com
Can a homer give me a credibility assessment here? Would Mike Quick have this sort of information as a team TV analyst? Any examples of him having good inside info previously?
 
Jeff Pasquino said:
unckeyherb said:
LTsharks said:
from gcobb.... could be interesting...

"Written by Garry Cobb

Mike Quick who is the analyst for the Eagles games with Merrill Reese says there will be news about Roy Williams before the week is out.

Mike Quick says he thinks the Birds are going to make a major move at the wide receiver position. He talked about Roy Williams and the potential that the Eagles will make a deal to acquire a wide receiver. He says there will be news on Roy Williams before the week is out.

That means the Cowboys, Redskins or the Eagles will probably wind up with the receiver before the week is out.

Mike just finished doing a live interview in a webcast with G. Cobb and Steve Martorano from Infiniti of Westchester and he says the Birds will try to do something this week. They're in a bidding a war right now.,

When asked about the Birds fear of being upstaged by the Phillies, Flyers and Sixers, Mike said he believes the Eagles are going to do something this weekend to take back all the attention."
do you have a link? I want to forward to some friends of mine.
Gcobb.com
Can a homer give me a credibility assessment here? Would Mike Quick have this sort of information as a team TV analyst? Any examples of him having good inside info previously?
Well, Quick actually draws a paycheck from the Eagles, so it probably isn't too bright that he's saying this stuff.
 
Jeff Pasquino said:
unckeyherb said:
LTsharks said:
from gcobb.... could be interesting...

"Written by Garry Cobb

Mike Quick who is the analyst for the Eagles games with Merrill Reese says there will be news about Roy Williams before the week is out.

Mike Quick says he thinks the Birds are going to make a major move at the wide receiver position. He talked about Roy Williams and the potential that the Eagles will make a deal to acquire a wide receiver. He says there will be news on Roy Williams before the week is out.

That means the Cowboys, Redskins or the Eagles will probably wind up with the receiver before the week is out.

Mike just finished doing a live interview in a webcast with G. Cobb and Steve Martorano from Infiniti of Westchester and he says the Birds will try to do something this week. They're in a bidding a war right now.,

When asked about the Birds fear of being upstaged by the Phillies, Flyers and Sixers, Mike said he believes the Eagles are going to do something this weekend to take back all the attention."
do you have a link? I want to forward to some friends of mine.
Gcobb.com
Can a homer give me a credibility assessment here? Would Mike Quick have this sort of information as a team TV analyst? Any examples of him having good inside info previously?
Well, Quick actually draws a paycheck from the Eagles, so it probably isn't too bright that he's saying this stuff.
btw, any chance you're holding out on us til draft day there buddy? ;) :thumbup:
 
Jeff Pasquino said:
unckeyherb said:
LTsharks said:
from gcobb.... could be interesting...

"Written by Garry Cobb

Mike Quick who is the analyst for the Eagles games with Merrill Reese says there will be news about Roy Williams before the week is out.

Mike Quick says he thinks the Birds are going to make a major move at the wide receiver position. He talked about Roy Williams and the potential that the Eagles will make a deal to acquire a wide receiver. He says there will be news on Roy Williams before the week is out.

That means the Cowboys, Redskins or the Eagles will probably wind up with the receiver before the week is out.

Mike just finished doing a live interview in a webcast with G. Cobb and Steve Martorano from Infiniti of Westchester and he says the Birds will try to do something this week. They're in a bidding a war right now.,

When asked about the Birds fear of being upstaged by the Phillies, Flyers and Sixers, Mike said he believes the Eagles are going to do something this weekend to take back all the attention."
do you have a link? I want to forward to some friends of mine.
Gcobb.com
Can a homer give me a credibility assessment here? Would Mike Quick have this sort of information as a team TV analyst? Any examples of him having good inside info previously?
Well, Quick actually draws a paycheck from the Eagles, so it probably isn't too bright that he's saying this stuff.
btw, any chance you're holding out on us til draft day there buddy? :popcorn: :D
Trust me, if I got info, you'll get it one way or another. If not from me, I'll get it to you through someone else (I've done it in the past).
 
Lions | Millen laughs when asked about R. WilliamsPublished Mon Apr 21 7:48:00 p.m. ET 2008

(KFFL) Nicholas J. Cotsonika, of the Detroit Free Press, reports Detroit Lions general manager Matt Millen laughed when he was asked during a press conference if the team was going to trade WR Roy Williams.

:popcorn:

 
Lions | Millen laughs when asked about R. WilliamsPublished Mon Apr 21 7:48:00 p.m. ET 2008(KFFL) Nicholas J. Cotsonika, of the Detroit Free Press, reports Detroit Lions general manager Matt Millen laughed when he was asked during a press conference if the team was going to trade WR Roy Williams. :popcorn:
I'd be more worried if he said they were looking into trading him. Everyone lies right before the draft.....
 
Lions | Millen laughs when asked about R. WilliamsPublished Mon Apr 21 7:48:00 p.m. ET 2008(KFFL) Nicholas J. Cotsonika, of the Detroit Free Press, reports Detroit Lions general manager Matt Millen laughed when he was asked during a press conference if the team was going to trade WR Roy Williams. :bowtie:
I'd be more worried if he said they were looking into trading him. Everyone lies right before the draft.....
Someone asked him if there is a trade in the works and he laughed. He didn't say anything? What does that mean? Is he laughing because its so funny that someone would think they would make a trade? Is he laughing because it got leaked? Is he laughing because his assistant won the office pool on who would ask that question?
 
LTsharks said:
That means the Cowboys, Redskins or the Eagles will probably wind up with the receiver before the week is out.
Why can't it be 2 AFC teams for once??? Or at least non NFC East??? :)
:thumbup: The Eagles have the best bargining chip in that bunch (1.19) so you should be happy it's between those three teams. No way the Boys give up two 1st rounders for Roy. Jones is much smarter than that.Now, whether the Eagles use that bargining chip remains to be seen....
What I meant was, if Roy is traded to the Boys or Skins, there is the double whammy of not getting him and having to face him twice a season for years to come.
that's a good thing. Means the conservative FO will be more likely to get him with the fear he goes to Wash/Dal
 
Lions | Millen laughs when asked about R. WilliamsPublished Mon Apr 21 7:48:00 p.m. ET 2008(KFFL) Nicholas J. Cotsonika, of the Detroit Free Press, reports Detroit Lions general manager Matt Millen laughed when he was asked during a press conference if the team was going to trade WR Roy Williams. :rolleyes:
I'd be more worried if he said they were looking into trading him. Everyone lies right before the draft.....
No one tells the clown that the circus is about to close..... :cry:
 
From PFT this morning:

The hot streak of GCobb.com when it comes to Eagles football is officially over.

A day after the site, run by former Eagles player Gary Cobb, said that Eagles radio analyst Mike Quick predicted that the team will make a major move at receiver this week, which GCobb.com interpreted to be an effort to acquire receiver Roy Williams from the Lions, Quick backpeddled faster than Deion Sanders on a running play.

Quick tells the Philadelphia Daily News that he has no inside information in this regard, and that he merely has a feeling that the team will do something to answer quarterback Donovan McNabb’s call for playmakers.

The problem is that Cobb’s site blew Quick’s prediction out of proportion, even adding in the Cowboys and Redskins as teams engaged in a bidding war for Williams.

It’s simply not the case.

With all that said, we’ve got a feeling that the Eagles will make a play for Cardinals wideout Anquan Boldin.

 
On a small side note about the draft, a buddy and I were discussing a possibility last week. If Felix Jones is sitting on the board in the 2nd round, do you take him? Would it be unreasonable to take him in the first round even?

He is a legit return guy that we clearly need, and the matchup problems that he and Westbrook could create are unbelievable. Line them both up in the backfield, line one up at WR, line them both up at WR. If there isn't a WR out there that the Eagles are in love with, I think that drafting Jones would not only bring something to the team that we need in playmaking ability, but also better utilize the personnel currently on the roster. Any thoughts?

 
On a small side note about the draft, a buddy and I were discussing a possibility last week. If Felix Jones is sitting on the board in the 2nd round, do you take him? Would it be unreasonable to take him in the first round even? He is a legit return guy that we clearly need, and the matchup problems that he and Westbrook could create are unbelievable. Line them both up in the backfield, line one up at WR, line them both up at WR. If there isn't a WR out there that the Eagles are in love with, I think that drafting Jones would not only bring something to the team that we need in playmaking ability, but also better utilize the personnel currently on the roster. Any thoughts?
I have the same thoughts, but Chris Johnson would be an even better fit IMHO because of his receiving skills. Can also return kicks. I would definately consider Johnson in the 2nd.
 
On a small side note about the draft, a buddy and I were discussing a possibility last week. If Felix Jones is sitting on the board in the 2nd round, do you take him? Would it be unreasonable to take him in the first round even? He is a legit return guy that we clearly need, and the matchup problems that he and Westbrook could create are unbelievable. Line them both up in the backfield, line one up at WR, line them both up at WR. If there isn't a WR out there that the Eagles are in love with, I think that drafting Jones would not only bring something to the team that we need in playmaking ability, but also better utilize the personnel currently on the roster. Any thoughts?
Second round? Sure, why not.Don't like that as a first round pick though. Not that it'd be a horrible pick ala Jon Harris, but it's a pick I wouldn't make.
 
On a small side note about the draft, a buddy and I were discussing a possibility last week. If Felix Jones is sitting on the board in the 2nd round, do you take him? Would it be unreasonable to take him in the first round even? He is a legit return guy that we clearly need, and the matchup problems that he and Westbrook could create are unbelievable. Line them both up in the backfield, line one up at WR, line them both up at WR. If there isn't a WR out there that the Eagles are in love with, I think that drafting Jones would not only bring something to the team that we need in playmaking ability, but also better utilize the personnel currently on the roster. Any thoughts?
I have the same thoughts, but Chris Johnson would be an even better fit IMHO because of his receiving skills. Can also return kicks. I would definately consider Johnson in the 2nd.
Admittedly, I have not seen too much of Johnson other than a couple highlight tapes, but that guy can absolutely fly. I would have no problem with taking him in the 2nd round at all. The whole thinking is that the team wants to bring in a playmaker, but who says it has to come from the WR position. Having a speedy running back who can return kicks and can be on the field at the same time as Westbrook is a matchup nightmare for opposing teams. Very valuable asset to have
 
From PFT this morning:The hot streak of GCobb.com when it comes to Eagles football is officially over.A day after the site, run by former Eagles player Gary Cobb, said that Eagles radio analyst Mike Quick predicted that the team will make a major move at receiver this week, which GCobb.com interpreted to be an effort to acquire receiver Roy Williams from the Lions, Quick backpeddled faster than Deion Sanders on a running play.Quick tells the Philadelphia Daily News that he has no inside information in this regard, and that he merely has a feeling that the team will do something to answer quarterback Donovan McNabb’s call for playmakers.The problem is that Cobb’s site blew Quick’s prediction out of proportion, even adding in the Cowboys and Redskins as teams engaged in a bidding war for Williams.It’s simply not the case.With all that said, we’ve got a feeling that the Eagles will make a play for Cardinals wideout Anquan Boldin.
Cobb has cred, cant discount him yet
 
On a small side note about the draft, a buddy and I were discussing a possibility last week. If Felix Jones is sitting on the board in the 2nd round, do you take him? Would it be unreasonable to take him in the first round even? He is a legit return guy that we clearly need, and the matchup problems that he and Westbrook could create are unbelievable. Line them both up in the backfield, line one up at WR, line them both up at WR. If there isn't a WR out there that the Eagles are in love with, I think that drafting Jones would not only bring something to the team that we need in playmaking ability, but also better utilize the personnel currently on the roster. Any thoughts?
I have the same thoughts, but Chris Johnson would be an even better fit IMHO because of his receiving skills. Can also return kicks. I would definately consider Johnson in the 2nd.
Admittedly, I have not seen too much of Johnson other than a couple highlight tapes, but that guy can absolutely fly. I would have no problem with taking him in the 2nd round at all. The whole thinking is that the team wants to bring in a playmaker, but who says it has to come from the WR position. Having a speedy running back who can return kicks and can be on the field at the same time as Westbrook is a matchup nightmare for opposing teams. Very valuable asset to have
The Eagles should definitely come away from this draft with a returner.Dex Jax is a Rd3-5 WR that has major wheels.Chris Johnson is up there too.There are quite a few good ones out there, and with 10 or 11 picks you have to get an impact returner. Now is the year to grab everything you want/ need to make a run for the Super Bowl.
 
I really agonized as to whether to post this or not, because I really think I've been putting you guys on a roller coaster all off-season. Since most of my reports have later been substantiated by press, I hope you guys know I'm not jerking you around.

Here goes: I was called late last night by my friend, who stated that the Eagles are in SERIOUS negoiations with a club to get a WR. I promised I would not reveal the name, but I was given the ok to make a vague post such as this one. The offer on the table is Lito and a second round pick this year or a first NEXT year. That can obviously change. These talks are very much still in the early stages. I will say that you all should be pleased.

They have also talked to Buffalo about moving up to 11, but that's on the back burner right now.

 
I really agonized as to whether to post this or not, because I really think I've been putting you guys on a roller coaster all off-season. Since most of my reports have later been substantiated by press, I hope you guys know I'm not jerking you around.Here goes: I was called late last night by my friend, who stated that the Eagles are in SERIOUS negoiations with a club to get a WR. I promised I would not reveal the name, but I was given the ok to make a vague post such as this one. The offer on the table is Lito and a second round pick this year or a first NEXT year. That can obviously change. These talks are very much still in the early stages. I will say that you all should be pleased.They have also talked to Buffalo about moving up to 11, but that's on the back burner right now.
I for one always appreciate your info, DH. :thumbup: Out of curiosity, do you know/suspect the move to 11 would be for Devin Thomas since he seems to be such a popular mock destination at that spot?
 
Who would they target at 11? Otah? Albert? A defensive end?
I suspect it's to jump in front of Chicago and Carolina to get Otah, Williams or even Albert if he drops. A DE could be possible, but I believe OT is a greater need since their starters are 34 and 35 years old. I also think that they don't believe Justice can play LT and they want to draft one....
 
I really agonized as to whether to post this or not, because I really think I've been putting you guys on a roller coaster all off-season. Since most of my reports have later been substantiated by press, I hope you guys know I'm not jerking you around.Here goes: I was called late last night by my friend, who stated that the Eagles are in SERIOUS negoiations with a club to get a WR. I promised I would not reveal the name, but I was given the ok to make a vague post such as this one. The offer on the table is Lito and a second round pick this year or a first NEXT year. That can obviously change. These talks are very much still in the early stages. I will say that you all should be pleased.They have also talked to Buffalo about moving up to 11, but that's on the back burner right now.
Is this a WR not named Chad Johnson? :football:
 
Thanks DH! Please tell me this is guaranteed to go down b4 the weekend. I hate waiting. Almost seems to me it has to be Boldin. He is the right age, personality, and he hangs out in AZ so he must know McNabb. Plus AZ must feel they have no chance of resigning him with the deal they had to give Fitz. And if Boldin is the one, I am happier getting him than Roy or Chad.

 
Thanks DH! Please tell me this is guaranteed to go down b4 the weekend. I hate waiting. Almost seems to me it has to be Boldin. He is the right age, personality, and he hangs out in AZ so he must know McNabb. Plus AZ must feel they have no chance of resigning him with the deal they had to give Fitz. And if Boldin is the one, I am happier getting him than Roy or Chad.
Nothing is guarenteed or even likely. I'm just passing along that they have talked to this team last night AND deals were being thrown around. That's why I wasn't sure whether or not I should post this. In the end, I just wanted you guys to know that it ain't over yet on getting a WR......
 
I really agonized as to whether to post this or not, because I really think I've been putting you guys on a roller coaster all off-season. Since most of my reports have later been substantiated by press, I hope you guys know I'm not jerking you around.Here goes: I was called late last night by my friend, who stated that the Eagles are in SERIOUS negoiations with a club to get a WR. I promised I would not reveal the name, but I was given the ok to make a vague post such as this one. The offer on the table is Lito and a second round pick this year or a first NEXT year. That can obviously change. These talks are very much still in the early stages. I will say that you all should be pleased.They have also talked to Buffalo about moving up to 11, but that's on the back burner right now.
the roller coaster is fun, that is why i keep looking at this thread. not your fault if things in the works don't happen. i would imagine most don'tthanks for the info, i appreciate it.
 
:lmao:

REDSKINS, EAGLES ASK ABOUT BOLDIN

Posted by Michael David Smith on April 23, 2008, 10:43 a.m.

Chad Johnson isn’t the only disgruntled veteran wide receiver who has been the subject of trade inquiries from the Washington Redskins.

Chris Mortensen of ESPN reports that the Cardinals have declined a trade offer from the Redskins for wide receiver Anquan Boldin. Per ESPN, the Philadelphia Eagles also have asked whether Boldin is available and have offered cornerback Lito Sheppard as part of a trade.

The Redskins’ interest shows that they’re serious about adding a receiver who can improve their passing game now, rather than drafting a receiver they hope can improve their passing game in the future. Yesterday Bengals coach Marvin Lewis first denied, then admitted, that the Redskins had made an offer for Johnson.

As for Boldin, who is reportedly unhappy that teammate Larry Fitzgerald makes significantly more money than he does, the Cardinals say he’s not going anywhere.

“We’re not interested in trading Anquan,” Cardinals General Manager Rod Graves told the Arizona Republic. “That’s the short of it.”

Graves said he hopes to work out a long-term contract extension to keep Boldin in Arizona, but he did acknowledge that “a few teams have called to inquire” about making a trade.

 
:whistle: REDSKINS, EAGLES ASK ABOUT BOLDINPosted by Michael David Smith on April 23, 2008, 10:43 a.m. Chad Johnson isn’t the only disgruntled veteran wide receiver who has been the subject of trade inquiries from the Washington Redskins.Chris Mortensen of ESPN reports that the Cardinals have declined a trade offer from the Redskins for wide receiver Anquan Boldin. Per ESPN, the Philadelphia Eagles also have asked whether Boldin is available and have offered cornerback Lito Sheppard as part of a trade.The Redskins’ interest shows that they’re serious about adding a receiver who can improve their passing game now, rather than drafting a receiver they hope can improve their passing game in the future. Yesterday Bengals coach Marvin Lewis first denied, then admitted, that the Redskins had made an offer for Johnson.As for Boldin, who is reportedly unhappy that teammate Larry Fitzgerald makes significantly more money than he does, the Cardinals say he’s not going anywhere.“We’re not interested in trading Anquan,” Cardinals General Manager Rod Graves told the Arizona Republic. “That’s the short of it.”Graves said he hopes to work out a long-term contract extension to keep Boldin in Arizona, but he did acknowledge that “a few teams have called to inquire” about making a trade.
Gotta love breaking a story an hour before ESPN does. ;)
 
This would be fantastic for the Eagles at the right price. He seems to fit their mold just right in terms of smarts, quicks, route running, run blocking. If they could get him and sign him to a contract that both parties are happy to for the next 4-5 years, that would be fantastic. Lito + 2nd isn't bad at all for that.

 
Right now, I dont mind if they break the bank for this guy. They have to trade for a WR instead of drafting b/c they are SB or bust this year and available WRs seem to be very limited.

Besides, if they're thinking about trading Lito to trade up to 11 to grab Devin Thomas, why not ship Lito and a 1st to the Cards for a sure deal?

 
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Lito could join Roderick Hood in Arizona to solidify their def backfield.

Boldin comes here and is an immediate fan favorite.

I'm sure Avant won't mind giving up his number....

I'm getting my 81 jersey as soon as they hit the streets.

 
I really agonized as to whether to post this or not, because I really think I've been putting you guys on a roller coaster all off-season. Since most of my reports have later been substantiated by press, I hope you guys know I'm not jerking you around.Here goes: I was called late last night by my friend, who stated that the Eagles are in SERIOUS negoiations with a club to get a WR. I promised I would not reveal the name, but I was given the ok to make a vague post such as this one. The offer on the table is Lito and a second round pick this year or a first NEXT year. That can obviously change. These talks are very much still in the early stages. I will say that you all should be pleased.They have also talked to Buffalo about moving up to 11, but that's on the back burner right now.
I'll say it and keep saying it until it happens...the Eagles signing of Asante was fine but only part I of the plan this offseason. If we don't then leverage Lito and our plethora of picks into a dynamic receiver, this offseason was a failure IMHO. We've certainly "inquired" about every major player in transition this offseason. We tried signing Moss. We inquired about Larry Fitz. We inquired about Ocho Cinco. We inquired about Torry Holt. We talked to the Chiefs about Jared Allen. We asked Detroit about Roy Williams.So far, so nothing. Lots of attempts, nothing to show for it.Soooo...if we come away with either Boldin OR Roy Williams (who appears to be back on the market, at least according to Schefter); I'll be :fishing:
 
Lito could join Roderick Hood in Arizona to solidify their def backfield.Boldin comes here and is an immediate fan favorite.I'm sure Avant won't mind giving up his number....I'm getting my 81 jersey as soon as they hit the streets.
For discussion's sake, let's say that Boldin does come here. He'd be ours contractually through at least 2010 but will likely push for at least some extension. How long are Reggie Brown and Kevin Curtis effectively signed for? And what I'm really getting at here is what does this mean for Avant and his development? Does he just become WR4 on the team with little upward mobility? Does anyone know enough about him to say if he could take over for Brown or Curtis?
 
When the Eagles were talking about acquiring Fitz, Reggie Brown's name was thrown into the mix at one point. If talks get serious enough about Boldin, I wouldn't be surprised if this happens again.

 
I really agonized as to whether to post this or not, because I really think I've been putting you guys on a roller coaster all off-season. Since most of my reports have later been substantiated by press, I hope you guys know I'm not jerking you around.

Here goes: I was called late last night by my friend, who stated that the Eagles are in SERIOUS negoiations with a club to get a WR. I promised I would not reveal the name, but I was given the ok to make a vague post such as this one. The offer on the table is Lito and a second round pick this year or a first NEXT year. That can obviously change. These talks are very much still in the early stages. I will say that you all should be pleased.

They have also talked to Buffalo about moving up to 11, but that's on the back burner right now.
I'll say it and keep saying it until it happens...the Eagles signing of Asante was fine but only part I of the plan this offseason. If we don't then leverage Lito and our plethora of picks into a dynamic receiver, this offseason was a failure IMHO. We've certainly "inquired" about every major player in transition this offseason. We tried signing Moss. We inquired about Larry Fitz. We inquired about Ocho Cinco. We inquired about Torry Holt. We talked to the Chiefs about Jared Allen. We asked Detroit about Roy Williams.So far, so nothing. Lots of attempts, nothing to show for it.

Soooo...if we come away with either Boldin OR Roy Williams (who appears to be back on the market, at least according to Schefter); I'll be :bag:
I completely agree Jason. This won't be a popular post, but I believe that if they can't get a stud WR, you might as well just call Chicago, KC or Baltimore right now and just trade McNabb. After that you start the Kevin Kolb era and draft a OT with the pick you get from one of the teams I mentioned, draft a WR to grow with Kolb with your own first and grab a Safety with your second rounder. The cap hit for McNabb will be almost zero because I think he's burned through his guarenteed money already.Just MHO though.....

 
Lito could join Roderick Hood in Arizona to solidify their def backfield.

Boldin comes here and is an immediate fan favorite.

I'm sure Avant won't mind giving up his number....

I'm getting my 81 jersey as soon as they hit the streets.
For discussion's sake, let's say that Boldin does come here. He'd be ours contractually through at least 2010 but will likely push for at least some extension. How long are Reggie Brown and Kevin Curtis effectively signed for? And what I'm really getting at here is what does this mean for Avant and his development? Does he just become WR4 on the team with little upward mobility? Does anyone know enough about him to say if he could take over for Brown or Curtis?
Avant seems to be purely a possession/WR3. That's his ceiling. As far as contracts:2008

Unrestricted: Dawkins, Runyan, Thomas, LJ Smith, Considine, Buckhalter, Hanson, Boiman, Reed, McDougle, Moats, Young

Restricted: Baskett, N.Cole

2009

Unrestricted: Gocong, Gaither, Klecko, Reagor, Justice, Jean-Gilles, Avant, Ramsey

Restricted: Rocca, Graham, Davis, Togafau

2010

Unrestricted: McNabb (voidable '11-'13), Westbrook, Akers, Bradley, Wilson, Schobel, Feeley, Mikell, Kolb, Abiamiri, Hunt, Celek

2011

Unrestricted: Bunkley, Parker, Sheppard, Howard, G.Lewis

2012

Unrestricted: S.Brown, Curtis, Clemons, Dorenbos

2013

Unrestricted: Samuel, T.Cole, Jackson, Herremans

2014

Unrestricted: R.Brown

2015

Unrestricted: Andrews

2016

Unrestricted: Patterson

Coaches

2010 = Johnson

2011 = Reid

 
I really agonized as to whether to post this or not, because I really think I've been putting you guys on a roller coaster all off-season. Since most of my reports have later been substantiated by press, I hope you guys know I'm not jerking you around.

Here goes: I was called late last night by my friend, who stated that the Eagles are in SERIOUS negoiations with a club to get a WR. I promised I would not reveal the name, but I was given the ok to make a vague post such as this one. The offer on the table is Lito and a second round pick this year or a first NEXT year. That can obviously change. These talks are very much still in the early stages. I will say that you all should be pleased.

They have also talked to Buffalo about moving up to 11, but that's on the back burner right now.
I'll say it and keep saying it until it happens...the Eagles signing of Asante was fine but only part I of the plan this offseason. If we don't then leverage Lito and our plethora of picks into a dynamic receiver, this offseason was a failure IMHO. We've certainly "inquired" about every major player in transition this offseason. We tried signing Moss. We inquired about Larry Fitz. We inquired about Ocho Cinco. We inquired about Torry Holt. We talked to the Chiefs about Jared Allen. We asked Detroit about Roy Williams.So far, so nothing. Lots of attempts, nothing to show for it.

Soooo...if we come away with either Boldin OR Roy Williams (who appears to be back on the market, at least according to Schefter); I'll be :goodposting:
I completely agree Jason. This won't be a popular post, but I believe that if they can't get a stud WR, you might as well just call Chicago, KC or Baltimore right now and just trade McNabb. After that you start the Kevin Kolb era and draft a OT with the pick you get from one of the teams I mentioned, draft a WR to grow with Kolb with your own first and grab a Safety with your second rounder. The cap hit for McNabb will be almost zero because I think he's burned through his guarenteed money already.Just MHO though.....
That's what drafting a OT in the 1st will mean (the Kolb era). That's why I am so against it. If you are going with McNabb, you have to go all-in this year. As far as getting a stud WR, I'm not as fatalistic about it. if you try and try and try and just can't get a deal done, you roll the dice and hope you get an impact player in the draft. Lord knows they have won divisions and reached the NFC Championship game with less...
 
I really agonized as to whether to post this or not, because I really think I've been putting you guys on a roller coaster all off-season. Since most of my reports have later been substantiated by press, I hope you guys know I'm not jerking you around.Here goes: I was called late last night by my friend, who stated that the Eagles are in SERIOUS negoiations with a club to get a WR. I promised I would not reveal the name, but I was given the ok to make a vague post such as this one. The offer on the table is Lito and a second round pick this year or a first NEXT year. That can obviously change. These talks are very much still in the early stages. I will say that you all should be pleased.They have also talked to Buffalo about moving up to 11, but that's on the back burner right now.
I'll say it and keep saying it until it happens...the Eagles signing of Asante was fine but only part I of the plan this offseason. If we don't then leverage Lito and our plethora of picks into a dynamic receiver, this offseason was a failure IMHO. We've certainly "inquired" about every major player in transition this offseason. We tried signing Moss. We inquired about Larry Fitz. We inquired about Ocho Cinco. We inquired about Torry Holt. We talked to the Chiefs about Jared Allen. We asked Detroit about Roy Williams.So far, so nothing. Lots of attempts, nothing to show for it.Soooo...if we come away with either Boldin OR Roy Williams (who appears to be back on the market, at least according to Schefter); I'll be :tfp:
I dont think you can call it a failure if Boldin or Williams are not traded to someone else. We can want a top flight WR all we want, but the simple facts are that there are not many available.The last time there was a top flight WR available the Eagles got him. Its not like they have not tried to fill the position, numerous draft picks with mediocre results, several FA signings with mediocre results and so on. IMO if Boldin or Williams are truly available then the Eagles will do everything possible to get them. If they aren't traded and we go into this season with the WR's we got, the off season was not a failure IMO at all. Teams just cant get players because they want them.
 
I really agonized as to whether to post this or not, because I really think I've been putting you guys on a roller coaster all off-season. Since most of my reports have later been substantiated by press, I hope you guys know I'm not jerking you around.Here goes: I was called late last night by my friend, who stated that the Eagles are in SERIOUS negoiations with a club to get a WR. I promised I would not reveal the name, but I was given the ok to make a vague post such as this one. The offer on the table is Lito and a second round pick this year or a first NEXT year. That can obviously change. These talks are very much still in the early stages. I will say that you all should be pleased.They have also talked to Buffalo about moving up to 11, but that's on the back burner right now.
I'll say it and keep saying it until it happens...the Eagles signing of Asante was fine but only part I of the plan this offseason. If we don't then leverage Lito and our plethora of picks into a dynamic receiver, this offseason was a failure IMHO. We've certainly "inquired" about every major player in transition this offseason. We tried signing Moss. We inquired about Larry Fitz. We inquired about Ocho Cinco. We inquired about Torry Holt. We talked to the Chiefs about Jared Allen. We asked Detroit about Roy Williams.So far, so nothing. Lots of attempts, nothing to show for it.Soooo...if we come away with either Boldin OR Roy Williams (who appears to be back on the market, at least according to Schefter); I'll be :yucky:
I dont think you can call it a failure if Boldin or Williams are not traded to someone else. We can want a top flight WR all we want, but the simple facts are that there are not many available.The last time there was a top flight WR available the Eagles got him. Its not like they have not tried to fill the position, numerous draft picks with mediocre results, several FA signings with mediocre results and so on. IMO if Boldin or Williams are truly available then the Eagles will do everything possible to get them. If they aren't traded and we go into this season with the WR's we got, the off season was not a failure IMO at all. Teams just cant get players because they want them.
I'm sure the team officials won't classify the offseason as a failure if they don't get a stud WR; I'm just saying that I will. I've been about as supportive and positive an Eagles fan as you'll find. I've defended Andy Reid vigorously to my buddies. I've defended McNabb with equal vigor. But at some point, you have to be rational about the window of any team and, ours is clearly WIN NOW. If that means handing over a lot of perceived future value to secure "playmakers" as McNabb requested on his blog a few months ago, then so be it. Because if we don't get back deep into the playoffs this year, changes ARE going to happen not the least of which is a new era of quarterbacking and, with it, probably at least one if not two new offensive tackles in the lineup.
 
Jason there has only been one true #1 WR available this year and thats Moss. They really tried to get him, but as everyone knew he was going back to the Pats. So if there isn't a WR to get how can you call the off season a failure? We cant just take players from teams that dont want to give them up. I find that idea of the Eagles off season being a failure because they failed to get a dominate WR when there are none currently available to get a bit wacky.

Now if there were a couple of dominate WRs available and they didnt get one of them I would agree with you, but they just arent. Bengals aren't going to get rid of CJ (so we have been told a million times), the Lions aren't trading RW (so we have been told many times), the Cards didnt trade Fitz, and its doubtful they will trade Boldin. So who were the Eagles supposed to get? Berrian, Bryant Johnson, etc etc? So until you can name a player that they should have gotten and didnt, its pretty much a mute point. Because I dont see teams complaining because they didnt get Tom Brady in the offseason or Tomlinson. You cant get whats not available.

 
Jason there has only been one true #1 WR available this year and thats Moss. They really tried to get him, but as everyone knew he was going back to the Pats. So if there isn't a WR to get how can you call the off season a failure? We cant just take players from teams that dont want to give them up. I find that idea of the Eagles off season being a failure because they failed to get a dominate WR when there are none currently available to get a bit wacky.

Now if there were a couple of dominate WRs available and they didnt get one of them I would agree with you, but they just arent. Bengals aren't going to get rid of CJ (so we have been told a million times), the Lions aren't trading RW (so we have been told many times), the Cards didnt trade Fitz, and its doubtful they will trade Boldin. So who were the Eagles supposed to get? Berrian, Bryant Johnson, etc etc? So until you can name a player that they should have gotten and didnt, its pretty much a mute point. Because I dont see teams complaining because they didnt get Tom Brady in the offseason or Tomlinson. You cant get whats not available.
Buddy, you're confusing me speaking as a fan with my heart and how it should rationally be analyzed. Yet again let me say, if we don't land a difference making receiver I will PERSONALLY feel this offseason had unfinished business. Not saying I won't root my brains out. Not saying we can't go to the playoffs without an elite WR. Not saying we can't win the division without one. Just saying that, as a fan (and a darn patient one), I want them to give us the cherry on top of an otherwise solid offseason.
 
Jason Wood said:
Buddy Ball 2K3 said:
Jason there has only been one true #1 WR available this year and thats Moss. They really tried to get him, but as everyone knew he was going back to the Pats. So if there isn't a WR to get how can you call the off season a failure? We cant just take players from teams that dont want to give them up. I find that idea of the Eagles off season being a failure because they failed to get a dominate WR when there are none currently available to get a bit wacky.

Now if there were a couple of dominate WRs available and they didnt get one of them I would agree with you, but they just arent. Bengals aren't going to get rid of CJ (so we have been told a million times), the Lions aren't trading RW (so we have been told many times), the Cards didnt trade Fitz, and its doubtful they will trade Boldin. So who were the Eagles supposed to get? Berrian, Bryant Johnson, etc etc? So until you can name a player that they should have gotten and didnt, its pretty much a mute point. Because I dont see teams complaining because they didnt get Tom Brady in the offseason or Tomlinson. You cant get whats not available.
Buddy, you're confusing me speaking as a fan with my heart and how it should rationally be analyzed. Yet again let me say, if we don't land a difference making receiver I will PERSONALLY feel this offseason had unfinished business. Not saying I won't root my brains out. Not saying we can't go to the playoffs without an elite WR. Not saying we can't win the division without one. Just saying that, as a fan (and a darn patient one), I want them to give us the cherry on top of an otherwise solid offseason.
Sorry, if I misunderstood you. I am as crazy of an Eagles fan as they come (named my dog Dawkins and I live on Eagle Rd) and I have been very pleased with this off season so far. Of course I would love one of the top notch WRs to come to Philly, I dont think it will happen, but I am keeping my fingers crossed. As long as we get one of the larger framed WRs during the draft I will be a very happy camper.
 
Buddy Ball 2K3 said:
Jason there has only been one true #1 WR available this year and thats Moss. They really tried to get him, but as everyone knew he was going back to the Pats. So if there isn't a WR to get how can you call the off season a failure? We cant just take players from teams that dont want to give them up. I find that idea of the Eagles off season being a failure because they failed to get a dominate WR when there are none currently available to get a bit wacky. Now if there were a couple of dominate WRs available and they didnt get one of them I would agree with you, but they just arent. Bengals aren't going to get rid of CJ (so we have been told a million times), the Lions aren't trading RW (so we have been told many times), the Cards didnt trade Fitz, and its doubtful they will trade Boldin. So who were the Eagles supposed to get? Berrian, Bryant Johnson, etc etc? So until you can name a player that they should have gotten and didnt, its pretty much a mute point. Because I dont see teams complaining because they didnt get Tom Brady in the offseason or Tomlinson. You cant get whats not available.
:rolleyes:
 
I really agonized as to whether to post this or not, because I really think I've been putting you guys on a roller coaster all off-season. Since most of my reports have later been substantiated by press, I hope you guys know I'm not jerking you around.Here goes: I was called late last night by my friend, who stated that the Eagles are in SERIOUS negoiations with a club to get a WR. I promised I would not reveal the name, but I was given the ok to make a vague post such as this one. The offer on the table is Lito and a second round pick this year or a first NEXT year. That can obviously change. These talks are very much still in the early stages. I will say that you all should be pleased.They have also talked to Buffalo about moving up to 11, but that's on the back burner right now.
I'll say it and keep saying it until it happens...the Eagles signing of Asante was fine but only part I of the plan this offseason. If we don't then leverage Lito and our plethora of picks into a dynamic receiver, this offseason was a failure IMHO. We've certainly "inquired" about every major player in transition this offseason. We tried signing Moss. We inquired about Larry Fitz. We inquired about Ocho Cinco. We inquired about Torry Holt. We talked to the Chiefs about Jared Allen. We asked Detroit about Roy Williams.So far, so nothing. Lots of attempts, nothing to show for it.Soooo...if we come away with either Boldin OR Roy Williams (who appears to be back on the market, at least according to Schefter); I'll be :)
I dont think you can call it a failure if Boldin or Williams are not traded to someone else. We can want a top flight WR all we want, but the simple facts are that there are not many available.The last time there was a top flight WR available the Eagles got him. Its not like they have not tried to fill the position, numerous draft picks with mediocre results, several FA signings with mediocre results and so on. IMO if Boldin or Williams are truly available then the Eagles will do everything possible to get them. If they aren't traded and we go into this season with the WR's we got, the off season was not a failure IMO at all. Teams just cant get players because they want them.
I'm sure the team officials won't classify the offseason as a failure if they don't get a stud WR; I'm just saying that I will. I've been about as supportive and positive an Eagles fan as you'll find. I've defended Andy Reid vigorously to my buddies. I've defended McNabb with equal vigor. But at some point, you have to be rational about the window of any team and, ours is clearly WIN NOW. If that means handing over a lot of perceived future value to secure "playmakers" as McNabb requested on his blog a few months ago, then so be it. Because if we don't get back deep into the playoffs this year, changes ARE going to happen not the least of which is a new era of quarterbacking and, with it, probably at least one if not two new offensive tackles in the lineup.
I think the Eagles offseason has to be ranked as one of the most entertaining so far. Most successful? I think they are near the top of that list too. For some reason it seems like half the top wrs in the league have been maybe on the move and every time the rumors fly and the Eagles are making offers and nothing happens. So far , no luck. Sucks. It would be sooo nice to see this team with someone like TO. Sooo nice. But even without that, it seems like the team will be much better this year. They seem so close to the top already. They have made some nice additions already, predraft. So add in whatever comes from the draft and the 2+ trades that they are likekly to make and tell me if, after all the wr soap opera shenanigans produces no substaintial upgrades in that area will you still say, even from the heart, that this offseason was a failure? I am sure there is a window but who knows when it will close. If they are good enough right now to be considered a wr away from the superbowl they are pretty good and there's no reason to think they will get bad fast. On the other hand if they are bad already then the wr probably woouldn't matter, and as you say changes will happen fast. In my opinion there's only one thing that matters if the Eagles are going to have any shot at a Superbowl. 5 has to be MVP. (insert fixed joke here). If he plays like he can they can win with what they will have.
 
In my opinion there's only one thing that matters if the Eagles are going to have any shot at a Superbowl. 5 has to be MVP. (insert fixed joke here). If he plays like he can they can win with what they will have
.5 needs a stud wr to have an MVP season. He seems so unwilling to throw into coverage and risk getting picked. Plus he seems to lack confidence in the ability of current wr's to consistently get open. He was a different QB with T.O. and even with Stallworth. Not sure why he thinks R Brown and Curtis can't get open. I am not trying to bash McNabb, I put more blame on A Reid for not running the ball and poor play calling, for the offenses lack of success. With that being said, unless the Eagles can get a stud wr for Lito I don't think they have a shot of going deep into the post season. Wish it weren't so.
 
I really agonized as to whether to post this or not, because I really think I've been putting you guys on a roller coaster all off-season. Since most of my reports have later been substantiated by press, I hope you guys know I'm not jerking you around.Here goes: I was called late last night by my friend, who stated that the Eagles are in SERIOUS negoiations with a club to get a WR. I promised I would not reveal the name, but I was given the ok to make a vague post such as this one. The offer on the table is Lito and a second round pick this year or a first NEXT year. That can obviously change. These talks are very much still in the early stages. I will say that you all should be pleased.They have also talked to Buffalo about moving up to 11, but that's on the back burner right now.
I'll say it and keep saying it until it happens...the Eagles signing of Asante was fine but only part I of the plan this offseason. If we don't then leverage Lito and our plethora of picks into a dynamic receiver, this offseason was a failure IMHO. We've certainly "inquired" about every major player in transition this offseason. We tried signing Moss. We inquired about Larry Fitz. We inquired about Ocho Cinco. We inquired about Torry Holt. We talked to the Chiefs about Jared Allen. We asked Detroit about Roy Williams.So far, so nothing. Lots of attempts, nothing to show for it.Soooo...if we come away with either Boldin OR Roy Williams (who appears to be back on the market, at least according to Schefter); I'll be :goodposting:
I dont think you can call it a failure if Boldin or Williams are not traded to someone else. We can want a top flight WR all we want, but the simple facts are that there are not many available.The last time there was a top flight WR available the Eagles got him. Its not like they have not tried to fill the position, numerous draft picks with mediocre results, several FA signings with mediocre results and so on. IMO if Boldin or Williams are truly available then the Eagles will do everything possible to get them. If they aren't traded and we go into this season with the WR's we got, the off season was not a failure IMO at all. Teams just cant get players because they want them.
I'm sure the team officials won't classify the offseason as a failure if they don't get a stud WR; I'm just saying that I will. I've been about as supportive and positive an Eagles fan as you'll find. I've defended Andy Reid vigorously to my buddies. I've defended McNabb with equal vigor. But at some point, you have to be rational about the window of any team and, ours is clearly WIN NOW. If that means handing over a lot of perceived future value to secure "playmakers" as McNabb requested on his blog a few months ago, then so be it. Because if we don't get back deep into the playoffs this year, changes ARE going to happen not the least of which is a new era of quarterbacking and, with it, probably at least one if not two new offensive tackles in the lineup.
I think the Eagles offseason has to be ranked as one of the most entertaining so far. Most successful? I think they are near the top of that list too. For some reason it seems like half the top wrs in the league have been maybe on the move and every time the rumors fly and the Eagles are making offers and nothing happens. So far , no luck. Sucks. It would be sooo nice to see this team with someone like TO. Sooo nice. But even without that, it seems like the team will be much better this year. They seem so close to the top already. They have made some nice additions already, predraft. So add in whatever comes from the draft and the 2+ trades that they are likekly to make and tell me if, after all the wr soap opera shenanigans produces no substaintial upgrades in that area will you still say, even from the heart, that this offseason was a failure? I am sure there is a window but who knows when it will close. If they are good enough right now to be considered a wr away from the superbowl they are pretty good and there's no reason to think they will get bad fast. On the other hand if they are bad already then the wr probably woouldn't matter, and as you say changes will happen fast. In my opinion there's only one thing that matters if the Eagles are going to have any shot at a Superbowl. 5 has to be MVP. (insert fixed joke here). If he plays like he can they can win with what they will have.
Eagles survived mediocre WR's when the division was bad. However, the Giants are the defending SB champs. Dallas has added Pacman Jones and has 2 first round picks. I think the Eagles have passed Washington but that is about as high as they go in the division right now.
 

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