Mad Cow
Welshers and Dawdlers Beware!
Should we just start calling them Infinity DICE, or maybe DICE Ward?
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TLEF316
Footballguy
Vietnam will have to provide a SIGNIFICANT amount of quality content at a decent price to get me on board. I'm very soured on dice after the sham they call "map packs" for bc2
I know it was a pipe dream but I was holding out hope that bf3 would be pc exclusive. Looks like we're gonna be stuck with 32 players and some dumbed down console features again.
I like bc2 but there just aren't enough maps or players (need 64 for epic battles). Plus conquest is nothing but death match
I know it was a pipe dream but I was holding out hope that bf3 would be pc exclusive. Looks like we're gonna be stuck with 32 players and some dumbed down console features again.
I like bc2 but there just aren't enough maps or players (need 64 for epic battles). Plus conquest is nothing but death match
Mad Cow
Welshers and Dawdlers Beware!
Indeed. BFBC2 has nowhere near the staying power of BF2. Of course, BF2 was fairly revolutionary to its popularity and what it did. It could just be the gameplay I am tiring of, much like RTS grew boring to me after years of WC, WC2 and SC.
madshot31
Footballguy
I stopped playing BC2 after a couple months because of the lack of new maps. You can't have the same 8 maps forever. By now they should be up to around 18-20 maps. Their $ loss I guess.
Corporation
Angry Bovine
I'm pretty sad about the shelf life of BC2. I still like it but did not play for one minute during the month of July, and I didn't miss it.Mad Cow said:
Giant Wooden Badger
the Beav
I don't understand why there are no new maps by now. For realz.
Meat
Footballguy
Seriously. I do still enjoy the maps that are out now, but c'mon - just unlocking a few for new game modes isn't doing it for me.
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
Agreed with every word of this. Except for the PC exclusive part, for obvious reasons.TLEF316 said:
Gator Shawn
Footballguy
Guys, I found a very cool game that I think several of you would enjoy very much.
It's called:
http://www.worldoftanks.com/
It's in a closed beta at the moment, but you can get keys from lots of places by googling World of Tanks closed beta. I actually grabbed 3 keys and have 3 different accounts. I did this because the betas offer use of an exclusive tank, but that tank stinks, so you sell it for some nice starting money.
It's a 15 on 15 open field or urban tank battle. All of the vehicles in the game are from the 1930-1950 era. You start out with crappy tanks and then like an MMO you choose which path you want to go do. It's sort of the same as a FPS in that you can go back and make other choices later, but the time invested ing etting to the really good weapons and vehicles is significant.
When you unlock a vehicle, you then have to progress down it's technology tree (bigger engines, better guns, suspensions, etc. It takes awhile to move to the next vehicle in the lin.
You can play as a Tank (Light -> Medium -> Heavy), a Tank Destroyer, or a Self-Propelled Gun. SPG play is top down like Arty in BF2. it's high risk, high reward.
I have been playing for about a week and gotten about half-way through the Tank Destroy (like a sniper in a FPS) line.
The games range from obnoxously quick to long and strategic.
Let me know if you check it out
It's called:
http://www.worldoftanks.com/
It's in a closed beta at the moment, but you can get keys from lots of places by googling World of Tanks closed beta. I actually grabbed 3 keys and have 3 different accounts. I did this because the betas offer use of an exclusive tank, but that tank stinks, so you sell it for some nice starting money.
It's a 15 on 15 open field or urban tank battle. All of the vehicles in the game are from the 1930-1950 era. You start out with crappy tanks and then like an MMO you choose which path you want to go do. It's sort of the same as a FPS in that you can go back and make other choices later, but the time invested ing etting to the really good weapons and vehicles is significant.
When you unlock a vehicle, you then have to progress down it's technology tree (bigger engines, better guns, suspensions, etc. It takes awhile to move to the next vehicle in the lin.
You can play as a Tank (Light -> Medium -> Heavy), a Tank Destroyer, or a Self-Propelled Gun. SPG play is top down like Arty in BF2. it's high risk, high reward.
I have been playing for about a week and gotten about half-way through the Tank Destroy (like a sniper in a FPS) line.
The games range from obnoxously quick to long and strategic.
Let me know if you check it out
Mad Cow
Welshers and Dawdlers Beware!
I grabbed a beta key probably 4 months ago, but never DL'd due to reviews of crappy gameplay. Hmmmm.
Gator Shawn
Footballguy
Either they've improved or I have low standards. It's pretty damn addictive.
TLEF316
Footballguy
they said the exact same thing about Bc2. Other than 32 players vs 24 I don't believe there are any differences. So I'm very skeptical until i see confirmed details.
SlaX
Footballguy
You mean Vietnam? If so, yes, it was announced with a $15 price.
TLEF316
Footballguy
yeah, Vietnam.
TLEF316
Footballguy
still just says "Winter 2010"
SlaX
Footballguy
I remember seeing November listed somewhere, but I can't recall where. It was somewhere around Thanksgiving. Consider it rumor for now.
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Todem
Footballguy
Was not like that for a while. The Game has died off but will get going again with the new DLC. My usual posse will get back together once the DLC comes out and we will take care of those camping snipers in short order. He he he.Played last night for the first time in months. I was the suck to say the least. Got get my trigger finger back in time for Vietnam which looks great!Looking forward to getting back into this great FPS.
TLEF316
Footballguy
hmm. i don't usually see that at all.VSS with magnum is a nice combo now (most recent patch really improved hit reg), but all the servers i play on have a pretty wide variety of kit loadouts. I don't even see a ton of AN-94 or M-60 users anymore.
Corporation
Angry Bovine
I haven't played since the end of June. Just kinda lost it, not sure why. I literally played BF2 for years.
TLEF316
Footballguy
not enough maps. Conquest mode has no strategy involved (the individual flags provide no strategic advantage, so its basically death match).I think the fact that you can't play 64 plays played a part as well.That being said, i still play because I really like FPS games and this is the best one going right now for me. But the long-term replay value isn't close to what Bf2 was.
Corporation
Angry Bovine
You're right about the strategy, which is why I loved it in BF2. If you captured the TV station, you were golden. Those maps were just a lot of fun.I think they intentionally hold back on the product so that people will be incented to buy newer versions.
Corporation
Angry Bovine
As a matter of fact, if they would import Karkand and a few of the other maps into BC2, I'd play the crap out of it. The maps look really nice in BC2, but the playing feel is just not there.
TLEF316
Footballguy
New patch came out overnight. Mostly minor balance tweaks and a few fixes (although some are saying that they broke new stuff in the process)
They also attempted to fix the spawn/revive invulnerability, but you still are invincible even when you look around. Why they just don't eliminate it entirely I have no idea.
I've switched to iron sights fuLl time in anticipation for vietnam. I've also been doing a lot more gustaving than usual to try and et my platinum star
They also attempted to fix the spawn/revive invulnerability, but you still are invincible even when you look around. Why they just don't eliminate it entirely I have no idea.
I've switched to iron sights fuLl time in anticipation for vietnam. I've also been doing a lot more gustaving than usual to try and et my platinum star
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GamerBoy61
Footballguy
I'm surprised you didn't dream about black hats and big beardsHey Joe - I had a dream last night that I came to your house for a LAN party, and you were Indian (Raj type, not Pocohontas). I guess it didn't help that I watched Big Bang Theory before bed, huh?
Mad Cow
Welshers and Dawdlers Beware!
I know. No Hershbergers to be seen ANYWHERE! Your wife really didn't like me. Indian women are so uppity.I'm surprised you didn't dream about black hats and big beardsHey Joe - I had a dream last night that I came to your house for a LAN party, and you were Indian (Raj type, not Pocohontas). I guess it didn't help that I watched Big Bang Theory before bed, huh?
GamerBoy61
Footballguy
I know. No Hershbergers to be seen ANYWHERE! Your wife really didn't like me. Indian women are so uppity.I'm surprised you didn't dream about black hats and big beardsHey Joe - I had a dream last night that I came to your house for a LAN party, and you were Indian (Raj type, not Pocohontas). I guess it didn't help that I watched Big Bang Theory before bed, huh?
ODoyleRules
Footballguy
Can't wait for new maps. I recently tried playing Grand Theft Auto IV on PS3. Being a huge fan of past GTA games and not having played another new game in 6 mos, I thought I'd be addicted to something new, esp. a game rated as high as GTA IV.... Nope. I got super bored in the first 30 minutes and plugged BF BC2 once again in for real action. I'm hooked.
Nick Vermeil
Footballguy
I'm not sure I totally understand what this is, but there is a new free to play Battlefield coming that combines BF2 maps and BC2 characters.
TLEF316
Footballguy
i played all of 8 minutes of heroes and it was horrible. Obviously this is different, but i don't really see the point. At this point, 99% of PC users that would want to play BF2 have a system that would run it. (its like 5 years old) and the game costs like $5 now.
Just seems like a waste of resources that could be spent working on BF3 or creating new content for BC2.
Just seems like a waste of resources that could be spent working on BF3 or creating new content for BC2.
SlaX
Footballguy
I saw word of this a few days ago and signed up for the closed beta. I do wish DiCE would just focus on Battlefield 3 from here on, though (especially if they aren't gonna give BC2 more love). Battlefield Heroes started off pretty decent and seemed to be making a good profit, even from the free to play model, but they broke it when they changed it so that you had to pay to get the better weapons. I wonder if they've learned anything from that. It'll be nice to see more new players brought into playing Battlefield 2 maps, but why not just make Battlefield 2 free for those that don't own it? Or as has been asked here numorous times, port those maps to BC2!
TLEF316
Footballguy
Map pack 7 announced and its actually legitimate. 2 remakes from BC1 and 2 maps from the BC2 single player.
Gotta think this was timed specifically to keep the people clamoring for new content from jumping to COD black ops tomorrow
Oasis and harvest were pretty cool maps. I look forward to playing them on BC2. I wish they'd remake some Bf2 maps. Obviously the big buildings on maps like karkand and sharqi wouldn't be destructible, but they could still do something with them. (Sharqi would be awesome)
Gotta think this was timed specifically to keep the people clamoring for new content from jumping to COD black ops tomorrow
Oasis and harvest were pretty cool maps. I look forward to playing them on BC2. I wish they'd remake some Bf2 maps. Obviously the big buildings on maps like karkand and sharqi wouldn't be destructible, but they could still do something with them. (Sharqi would be awesome)
Mad Cow
Welshers and Dawdlers Beware!
Mashtuur could be destructible and also be awesome. I still love me some Wake. Make a few more buildings but let you blow them up.
madshot31
Footballguy
Cool. I have been out of the BC2 loop. Have they release any new maps besides these four announced one's, or the previous 6 map packs been making all maps work for all game types like 1/2/3 were doing?
SlaX
Footballguy
They could just port Wake over from Battlefield 1943 and that'd be fine, although it's got planes and no choppers.Mashtuur could be destructible and also be awesome. I still love me some Wake. Make a few more buildings but let you blow them up.
SlaX
Footballguy
Saw you playing Black Ops this weekend. How is it compared to MW2 and CoD4? Nevermind, I should be reading the Black Ops thread.
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madshot31
Footballguy
Just reacquired BC2 and picked up Onslaught mode. Anyone still play this on 360? My gamertag is "M a d s h o t". After playing a few shooters since the peak of this game, I have come to realize the quality that this game posses. Also, glad to see a update was release a few months back and another is coming out soon with 4 brand new maps for free and 4 more maps in the Vietnam expansion that will cost money.
Mad Cow
Welshers and Dawdlers Beware!
I jumped in a server that TLEF was in earlier today for 2 rounds. I don't even know if he saw me in his squad. 
Anxious to see the new maps, and would love to see Onslaught for PC. Even more, I would love to see them add a LAN option for PC. I can guarantee they add LAN capability, they sell a crapload of new copies. I know I would probably buy 6 copies for my office to play with during my LAN events I have maybe once or twice a year.
Anxious to see the new maps, and would love to see Onslaught for PC. Even more, I would love to see them add a LAN option for PC. I can guarantee they add LAN capability, they sell a crapload of new copies. I know I would probably buy 6 copies for my office to play with during my LAN events I have maybe once or twice a year.
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madshot31
Footballguy
Onslaught is like Bad Company WaW Zombie mode while advancing. Its fun with randoms, could be great with friends.Edit: Got a question about chopper controls. What does Yaw do?2nd Edit: OMG, I can fly the choppers. Before I would last maybe 5-15 seconds and horrible die into a hillside whenever I decide to turn. After 10 tries with no luck I switched the stick layout from default/default to bad company 1/legacy. Now ascend/descend is done with the left stick and look up/down and roll is with the right stick. I did a good 6 laps around the map before I got shot down on my first try. :fistpump:I jumped in a server that TLEF was in earlier today for 2 rounds. I don't even know if he saw me in his squad.
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Drew RosenhausFan
Footballguy
been playing quite a bit lately because I lost interest in NCAA football 11. (and don't like FIFA this year).
I still think this is a great game and I'm really looking forward to the maps. My complaints are mostly unchanged. My biggest issue is with the spawning mechanic.
- I absolutely hate how enemies can spawn on a guy who is under fire. Its so frustrating when I put a guy down with the end of my clip only to see a squad mate spawn in and finish me off. IMO, you should have to go 5 seconds without taking damage before a teammate can spawn on you.
- If they aren't going to do that, they should re-institute the squad leader mechanic from Bf2/2142. The ability to spawn on any squad mate (or even squad hop while you are dead so you can spawn on any person on your team) makes it too difficult to defend a flag and hold ground. Other than the size/layout of the maps, this is the biggest contributing factor to the "musical flags" that conquest mode has become.
- and finally, they absolutely MUST get rid of ALL invulnerability that players get when they either spawn or are revived (unless you spawn at your main,uncapable base). It makes no sense to reward players for diving into a fire fight to revive someone that has no business being revived. (**Cough** CORP **Cough**) It also makes no sense to reward the revivee for either taking his eyes off the screen or taking advantage of this unfair mechanic. (I've actually started doing this purposely, not moving when I'm revived so that the guy shooting me empties his clip).
I also wish they would go back to the BF2 standard of not counting a death until you actually re-spawn (as opposed to now, when you get credit for a death even if someone revives you). Of course, that's just me being a K/D ratio whore.
O yeah, this is TLEF by the way. on a one week time out due to calling my genitals Coach Vermeil's first name.
edit: and yeah, i saw you MC. That team were were on was god awful. I played on that server quite a bit this afternoon and my team was always disgracefully bad. The other team wasn't good either (most of my rounds were 2/1 K/D, usually 3/1) but my teammates just couldn't do anything.
I still think this is a great game and I'm really looking forward to the maps. My complaints are mostly unchanged. My biggest issue is with the spawning mechanic.
- I absolutely hate how enemies can spawn on a guy who is under fire. Its so frustrating when I put a guy down with the end of my clip only to see a squad mate spawn in and finish me off. IMO, you should have to go 5 seconds without taking damage before a teammate can spawn on you.
- If they aren't going to do that, they should re-institute the squad leader mechanic from Bf2/2142. The ability to spawn on any squad mate (or even squad hop while you are dead so you can spawn on any person on your team) makes it too difficult to defend a flag and hold ground. Other than the size/layout of the maps, this is the biggest contributing factor to the "musical flags" that conquest mode has become.
- and finally, they absolutely MUST get rid of ALL invulnerability that players get when they either spawn or are revived (unless you spawn at your main,uncapable base). It makes no sense to reward players for diving into a fire fight to revive someone that has no business being revived. (**Cough** CORP **Cough**) It also makes no sense to reward the revivee for either taking his eyes off the screen or taking advantage of this unfair mechanic. (I've actually started doing this purposely, not moving when I'm revived so that the guy shooting me empties his clip).
I also wish they would go back to the BF2 standard of not counting a death until you actually re-spawn (as opposed to now, when you get credit for a death even if someone revives you). Of course, that's just me being a K/D ratio whore.
O yeah, this is TLEF by the way. on a one week time out due to calling my genitals Coach Vermeil's first name.
edit: and yeah, i saw you MC. That team were were on was god awful. I played on that server quite a bit this afternoon and my team was always disgracefully bad. The other team wasn't good either (most of my rounds were 2/1 K/D, usually 3/1) but my teammates just couldn't do anything.
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madshot31
Footballguy
Same. On the 360 you can instant die anytime you spawn.
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