***Official*** FFA iDating Thread (2 Viewers)

[zed2283]

Ok so I didn't hear from beautiful blonde since she ditched me Saturday.  I laid low yesterday, then about 11:30 this morning sent her a "Good morning  How are you?"  

Her (two hours later): "I'm doing well.  How's your afternoon?"  I didn't like it too much because it felt a little cold.  When we were texting last week it would have been a "hey handsome" so I wasn't sure what to think.  

Me (two hours later): "It's been crazy.  Too much to do!" followed by "I'd like to see you again.  May I take you to dinner this week?"  

Her: "Mmm. Sure."  What did that mean?  Like mmmm I'd really like to see you or ummm, I guess so?  Either way I was just happy she said yes.  

Me: I named a restaurant and told her to pick a night.

Her: "Yum!  Wednesday?"

Me: "Sounds good "

Any advice so I don't blow this?  I guess she blew me off Saturday because she had something better to do or she wanted to slow me down?  I notice she picked Wednesday night, maybe that means I'm #3 in the rotation :( .

 

[saintfool]

Any advice so I don't blow this?  I guess she blew me off Saturday because she had something better to do or she wanted to slow me down?  I notice she picked Wednesday night, maybe that means I'm #3 in the rotation :( .




 

too late.

short of that, maybe this?

 

[zed2283]

too late.

short of that, maybe this?

Too late?

 

[zed2283]

Yeah most likely she's dating other guys...so just be relaxed and funny, act like you did on the night when you made out. Hopefully you make out again, maybe even get the poon. 

Random thought -- is it a pretty nice restaurant and are you planning on paying? Hopefully she's not one of those.

Or what the hell do I know, I haven't been single since ####### 2003.

I was thinking about that.  My confidence took a bit of a hit over the weekend because of what happened and I was trying to figure out how to make sure I come across the same way again when I see her on Wednesday.  I was definitely on my game the first time and can't afford to let any insecurity in.  Any suggestions on how to do this?

Hopefully she's not one of those what?  Just going for a free meal?  It's a fairly nice Japanese hibachi place.  She asked me on our date what my favorite restaurant was and I named that one.  So that was the one I suggested in my text today.

"Mmmmm" is good. Don't overthink things. Slow yourself down.

Cool, thanks gb.

ETA: I noticed yesterday that she changed her Match profile to hidden.

 

[offdee]

Ok so I didn't hear from beautiful blonde since she ditched me Saturday.  I laid low yesterday, then about 11:30 this morning sent her a "Good morning  How are you?"  

Her (two hours later): "I'm doing well.  How's your afternoon?"  I didn't like it too much because it felt a little cold.  When we were texting last week it would have been a "hey handsome" so I wasn't sure what to think.  

Me (two hours later): "It's been crazy.  Too much to do!" followed by "I'd like to see you again.  May I take you to dinner this week?"  

Her: "Mmm. Sure."  What did that mean?  Like mmmm I'd really like to see you or ummm, I guess so?  Either way I was just happy she said yes.  

Me: I named a restaurant and told her to pick a night.

Her: "Yum!  Wednesday?"

Me: "Sounds good "

Any advice so I don't blow this?  I guess she blew me off Saturday because she had something better to do or she wanted to slow me down?  I notice she picked Wednesday night, maybe that means I'm #3 in the rotation :( .

Some misc tips:

- be more confident in your texts...don't ask, tell. Subtle nuance from "may i take you to dinner?" to "we should have dinner together, soon"

- call her out on stuff with confident humor  "Wednesday?! Guess I haven't broken into the weekend date slots yet..now you really do need to spend more time with me...I'll make sure that changes! Lol.   

- the advanced move would've been to say that night doesn't work for you no matter what night she chose.  Triggers all kinds of signals to up your value in her mind  

- stop using smiley's. Comes off as weak and childish. Leave that to the girls. 

 

[wilked]

offdee on point as usual.

Just so you know zed you seem to be doing ok when with the wimmen, but are terrible when not

I'll give more specifics in a second

 

[wilked]

Met up with the 25-year old last night.  Beautiful blonde, curvy.  We went to a fancy bar and had a couple of beers and good conversation for about two hours.  She seemed interested, engaged, laughing, looking at me, leaning forward, etc.  Called me handsome a couple of times.  There was a Dave & Busters nearby and we decided to go over there.  She said she would drive and leaned into me as we were walking to her car.  Went to D&B for about an hour and had fun.  She was touching me a lot, leaning into me as we walked, massaged my shoulders when I sat down one time.  I put my arm around her while we were walking and she did the same.  She said she had to go home (it was 11pm) because she had early plans with her family (corn maze with her nephew).  So she drove me back to my car, and we decided to see each other again today, maybe go to a haunted house.  She took my hand and we made out for about 10 minutes and it was really great. 

Up to this point, doing great

I texted her this morning

Don't do this anymore.  Give it a day or two, in fact here's a crazy idea, let her be the one to contact you

I told her to have fun and text me later, and in the meantime I would look for a haunted house for tonight.  

Don't do back to back nights with a chick you just met.  It screams to her that she is your only option, and you would be sitting alone at home otherwise.  Don't ask her to text you later, as you now put her in charge of the next move.  Just say 'cya'. 

That was at 11am.  I didn't hear back from her at all and tried calling her at 4pm.

So you told her to text you later, and then couldn't wait and called her?  5 hours after talking to her you are freaking out (where she is at a friggin corn maze - did you think it would be a 2 hour trip?  You ever been to a corn maze?)  Needy factor going through the roof

No answer.  So I texted asking what time she wanted to get together tonight and about 15 min later she replied saying that she didn't know if she was going to be able to make it.  I texted her back asking if I could call and she never replied.

So clearly she has all the power at this point, has you staring at your phone begging her to send a text message.  Never ask if you can call (permission to dial the friggin phone??)  

Here's some easy rules to follow:

-First date is a drink, and is never dinner.  In fact, second date is never dinner either (unless spontaneous after getting a drink, and then some low-key but good grub).

-First date is never on a Fri or Sat.  

-Second date is never the day after the first date.  If she suggests a day, you are always busy that day and pick a day of your choosing.  She suggests a place, tell her sounds like fun but you know what would be really fun? And propose a place that you choose.  Basically everything on your terms.

Yes, it's ridiculous but that is how it's played.  The above quotes - that is painful

 

[zed2283]

Ok, thanks guys.  Will try to take it all as constructive criticism and improve.  I'm a work in progress.

 

[The Grizz]

40-year old decided to start seeing someone she used to go out with.  She said I didn't seem interested enough.

I'm shuked today though.  Met up with the 25-year old last night.  Beautiful blonde, curvy.  We went to a fancy bar and had a couple of beers and good conversation for about two hours.  She seemed interested, engaged, laughing, looking at me, leaning forward, etc.  Called me handsome a couple of times.  There was a Dave & Busters nearby and we decided to go over there.  She said she would drive and leaned into me as we were walking to her car.  Went to D&B for about an hour and had fun.  She was touching me a lot, leaning into me as we walked, massaged my shoulders when I sat down one time.  I put my arm around her while we were walking and she did the same.  She said she had to go home (it was 11pm) because she had early plans with her family (corn maze with her nephew).  So she drove me back to my car, and we decided to see each other again today, maybe go to a haunted house.  She took my hand and we made out for about 10 minutes and it was really great. 

I texted her this morning and she replied fairly quickly, said they were done with the corn maze and were taking a hay ride.  I told her to have fun and text me later, and in the meantime I would look for a haunted house for tonight.  That was at 11am.  I didn't hear back from her at all and tried calling her at 4pm.  No answer.  So I texted asking what time she wanted to get together tonight and about 15 min later she replied saying that she didn't know if she was going to be able to make it.  I texted her back asking if I could call and she never replied.  I don't think I was pushing too hard, but I don't know?

A text asking permission to call after a blow off text is a bad move for a number of reasons:

(1) 25-year old girls are texters, not callers;

(2) No one wants to provide further explanation of a blow off text;

(3) You should be acting as if it is no big deal, as you have plenty of good backup options; and 

(4) You sound like a ##### asking permission to make a phone call.

Based on your recent updates, it sounds like you are still in good shape and haven't blown anything yet.  But I wouldn't repeat that move in the future.  

 

[The Grizz]

I'm kind of torn about adding a new picture to my Tinder/Bumble profile.  I never considered using this picture as part of my online profile, but I recently showed this picture to the Flight Attendent that I met on Bumble when looking for a Halloween costume pic of myself dressed as Kenny Powers, and now she's obsessed with it.  It's a picture of my 18-year old self standing next to President George W. Bush with a gold medal around my neck.  On the one hand, it's a picture of me as a teenager, it's kind of pompous, and a pic of G-Dub provokes a negative reaction for a majority of the country (although Trump is probably inspiring some Bush nostalgia).  On the other hand, how can any woman thoughtlessly swipe left on a man that was personally awarded a gold medal by a U.S. President?  I feel like it could be some great opening message fodder to inspire girls to reach out.  What do you guys think?

 

[offdee]

I'm kind of torn about adding a new picture to my Tinder/Bumble profile.  I never considered using this picture as part of my online profile, but I recently showed this picture to the Flight Attendent that I met on Bumble when looking for a Halloween costume pic of myself dressed as Kenny Powers, and now she's obsessed with it.  It's a picture of my 18-year old self standing next to President George W. Bush with a gold medal around my neck.  On the one hand, it's a picture of me as a teenager, it's kind of pompous, and a pic of G-Dub provokes a negative reaction for a majority of the country (although Trump is probably inspiring some Bush nostalgia).  On the other hand, how can any woman thoughtlessly swipe left on a man that was personally awarded a gold medal by a U.S. President?  I feel like it could be some great opening message fodder to inspire girls to reach out.

No doubt you gotta use that.  Just make it clear its an old pic of a younger you, and put a joking line with it.  18 yr old me, the highlight of GWs tenure.  After this pic was snapped he told me to stay away from Barbara.

 

[offdee]

When you're at dinner and she's talking about something boring like work or her family, just flat out tell her to shut the hell up. This signals to her that you must have lots of dating options and raises your value in her eyes. Also it's a good idea to call her Rebecca or Stephanie a few times and pretend it was an accident. Tell her you occasionally bang a chick who looks just like her, except she has nicer breasts and is more interesting to talk to.

Here's the thing...nowhere in any of the advice is suggesting to be rude and mean.  Confident and mysterious mixed in with humor is the holy grail in initial dating conversations.  Whether you like it or not, its what gets the girls chairs damp. Being rude does not. Being too needy, available and cheesily nice does not.

 

[FFChick32]

When you're at dinner and she's talking about something boring like work or her family, just flat out tell her to shut the hell up. This signals to her that you must have lots of dating options and raises your value in her eyes. Also it's a good idea to call her Rebecca or Stephanie a few times and pretend it was an accident. Tell her you occasionally bang a chick who looks just like her, except she has nicer breasts and is more interesting to talk to.

OMG I apologize for joining this guy convo, but some of these answers are priceless ?

Sorry some of you aren't having great luck....sucks to be on the other side of nightmare dating as well....guys who promise the world, then disappear ?

 

[Rirruto]

I'm kind of torn about adding a new picture to my Tinder/Bumble profile.  I never considered using this picture as part of my online profile, but I recently showed this picture to the Flight Attendent that I met on Bumble when looking for a Halloween costume pic of myself dressed as Kenny Powers, and now she's obsessed with it.  It's a picture of my 18-year old self standing next to President George W. Bush with a gold medal around my neck.  On the one hand, it's a picture of me as a teenager, it's kind of pompous, and a pic of G-Dub provokes a negative reaction for a majority of the country (although Trump is probably inspiring some Bush nostalgia).  On the other hand, how can any woman thoughtlessly swipe left on a man that was personally awarded a gold medal by a U.S. President?  I feel like it could be some great opening message fodder to inspire girls to reach out.  What do you guys think?

Would not use that picture. It's only going to cut down on your total number of right swipes. Especially in Denver (I think I remember that being where you're at). Basically any picture that is going to guarantee a certain number of left swipes is a waste. Lots of girls don't care about politics, don't know who GWB is, or are Republicans. But there's a big percentage of auto nopes solely based on the pic. 

You cant caption it anyway, so offdee's suggestion really doesn't work. I don't use snapchat, but that's where I would use it if I were you. Put it as your story with something like what offdee mentioned. 

 

[zed2283]

Supposed to meet the blonde tonight for dinner.  Since we made out a while the other night, would it be ok to greet her with a kiss or is that going too far?  I've got some theories about that, but would prefer to hear what the experts say.

 

[James Daulton]

Yep, banged the wife of 25 years at 5am this morning.  Take that dating guys!

And keep posting your adventures please...

 

[Poke_4_Life]

Yep, banged the wife of 25 years at 5am this morning.  Take that dating guys!

And keep posting your adventures please...

Had an afternoon delight myself yesterday with my wife of 13 years.  Then we made dinner and watched some TV.  

Love these adventures tho...  keep them coming...  I'm rooting for all of you!

 

[offdee]

Supposed to meet the blonde tonight for dinner.  Since we made out a while the other night, would it be ok to greet her with a kiss or is that going too far?  I've got some theories about that, but would prefer to hear what the experts say.

No. She's giving weird signals so don't take the chance...if she turns away or denies the date is ruined from the jump and will be completely awkward.  Have a sense about you on this date that you are still evaluating whether or not she is actually worthy of more kisses...create that wonder in her mind a bit.  Build the sexual tension.  Do not come off as desparate or needy, as it will be game over.

You are 50 ft tall and crap diamonds.  Any woman would be lucky to have you. You are the prize.   (This is your mantra...say this to yourself over and over until you actually believe it)

 

[zed2283]

No. She's giving weird signals so don't take the chance...if she turns away or denies the date is ruined from the jump and will be completely awkward.  Have a sense about you on this date that you are still evaluating whether or not she is actually worthy of more kisses...create that wonder in her mind a bit.  Build the sexual tension.  Do not come off as desparate or needy, as it will be game over.

You are 50 ft tall and crap diamonds.  Any woman would be lucky to have you. You are the prize.   (This is your mantra...say this to yourself over and over until you actually believe it)

As always, this sounds spot on.  Are you able to keep things this clear in your dating life, or just when you are on the outside looking in?

 

[Buttonhook]

Supposed to meet the blonde tonight for dinner.  Since we made out a while the other night, would it be ok to greet her with a kiss or is that going too far?  I've got some theories about that, but would prefer to hear what the experts say.

Who cares if you get a kiss to start the date?  It's what happens at the end of the date that sets up future expectations.

Sorry Zed, but you still seem real desperate by asking this question.  You seem like a nice guy, and it's probably going to be difficult for you to immediately transform yourself into the guy that offdee is suggesting. 

Since you cannot completely transform yourself for tonight's date, try a simple baby-step: no matter what, DO NOT kiss her, reach out to touch her, or invite her back to your place.  Doesn't matter how good the date is going, do not give in.  And if the date's going that well, she will likely initiate some of these moves on her own. 

Come to think of it, weren't you the one blowing off the Amazon chick?  And she kept coming back, more desperate each time? I think that's what offdee is talking about.

 

[offdee]

As always, this sounds spot on.  Are you able to keep things this clear in your dating life, or just when you are on the outside looking in?

I've been in a one woman relationship for almost 3 yrs, but I'd like to think I was pretty clear while actually dating multiples before that.  It took time to truly get it and live it naturally, but once you have success with this mindset it builds like an avalanche.  As my confidence grew so did the caliber of women.  Over a 7 year span (starting in 2007)...I look back on the first 3 girls when first idating vs. my last 3 girls (which includes my present long term gf) and it's a completely different level of woman (both in looks and personality).  @Judge Smails just met me and my gf for drinks this past weekend in Vegas so he saw firsthand our dynamic (to hopefully back up that I'm not a fraud and live what I type here)

There's a different nuance when you are in a committed relationship, but a guy should NEVER lose the confident/funny stance.  The mysterious part of the equation should disappear, but keeping the confident/funny mindset as if you were newly dating is a recipe for keeping the relationship exciting for her.  It's what attracted her to you in the first place...keep that alive.

Always treat her like a queen, but never lose the mindset that you are a prize and she's lucky to have you.  May sound weird, but deep down that is what a woman craves....a confident man that people (women and men) want to be around.

The mantra I noted above is something I say to myself on a daily basis in all walks of life....work, play and relationship.  The mindset and stance you portray to others is much more important than the actual words you say. 

 

[zed2283]

Who cares if you get a kiss to start the date?  It's what happens at the end of the date that sets up future expectations.

Sorry Zed, but you still seem real desperate by asking this question.  You seem like a nice guy, and it's probably going to be difficult for you to immediately transform yourself into the guy that offdee is suggesting. 

Since you cannot completely transform yourself for tonight's date, try a simple baby-step: no matter what, DO NOT kiss her, reach out to touch her, or invite her back to your place.  Doesn't matter how good the date is going, do not give in.  And if the date's going that well, she will likely initiate some of these moves on her own. 

Come to think of it, weren't you the one blowing off the Amazon chick?  And she kept coming back, more desperate each time? I think that's what offdee is talking about.

Interesting.  I asked because I thought it might project that I'm in charge and setting expectations, not out of being desperate.  Someone made the comment that I do well when I'm with the women, but poorly when I'm not.  My theory is that I should have the mindset that it's a done deal that I'm getting laid.  It helps me come across as confident and with more of a screw it and flirty attitude.  It seems to work pretty well.  Not that it means I act on it or in an inappropriate way.

Good point about the Amazon chick.

 

[cstu]

Interesting.  I asked because I thought it might project that I'm in charge and setting expectations, not out of being desperate.  Someone made the comment that I do well when I'm with the women, but poorly when I'm not.  My theory is that I should have the mindset that it's a done deal that I'm getting laid.  It helps me come across as confident and with more of a screw it and flirty attitude.  It seems to work pretty well.  Not that it means I act on it or in an inappropriate way.

Good point about the Amazon chick.

You should the mindset that you do not care if you get laid.

 

[offdee]

Interesting.  I asked because I thought it might project that I'm in charge and setting expectations, not out of being desperate.  Someone made the comment that I do well when I'm with the women, but poorly when I'm not.  My theory is that I should have the mindset that it's a done deal that I'm getting laid.  It helps me come across as confident and with more of a screw it and flirty attitude.  It seems to work pretty well.  Not that it means I act on it or in an inappropriate way.

Good point about the Amazon chick.

The mindset should actually be...I know this girl is going to want me, but is she actually worthy of having me?    

Again ALWAYS skew thoughts to "you are the prize here, not her".  Just having that mindset will do you wonders.  Don't sway from it no matter how uncomfortable it may feel at first. 

 

[cstu]

The mindset should actually be...I know this girl is going to want me, but is she actually worthy of having me?    

Again ALWAYS skew thoughts to "you are the prize here, not her".  Just having that mindset will do you wonders.  Don't sway from it no matter how uncomfortable it may feel at first. 

That is actually true - if she was that wonderful she would have been married by now.  So far, guys have been happy to get the milk for free and haven't felt it necessary to buy the cow. 

 

[zed2283]

The mindset should actually be...I know this girl is going to want me, but is she actually worthy of having me?    

Again ALWAYS skew thoughts to "you are the prize here, not her".  Just having that mindset will do you wonders.  Don't sway from it no matter how uncomfortable it may feel at first. 

Yeah, that makes sense.  That's usually my attitude when I head south, and it seems to work pretty well.  Hard to put it into effect around here, after being beat down for so many years in the dating wars.

 

[Buttonhook]

Interesting.  I asked because I thought it might project that I'm in charge and setting expectations, not out of being desperate.  Someone made the comment that I do well when I'm with the women, but poorly when I'm not.  My theory is that I should have the mindset that it's a done deal that I'm getting laid.  It helps me come across as confident and with more of a screw it and flirty attitude.  It seems to work pretty well.  Not that it means I act on it or in an inappropriate way.

Good point about the Amazon chick.

It depends on the situation.

If you barely know a girl, and you're not quite sure if she's into you, trying to kiss her right when you see her does seem desperate.

If you had amazing sex with her last week, and this is first time you've seen her since then, going in for a kiss seems more appropriate and gives off the vibe that you are in charge.

 

[zed2283]

It depends on the situation.

If you barely know a girl, and you're not quite sure if she's into you, trying to kiss her right when you see her does seem desperate.

If you had amazing sex with her last week, and this is first time you've seen her since then, going in for a kiss seems more appropriate and gives off the vibe that you are in charge.

Sure, that's a good point to make.  Like offdee said, she's giving off some mixed signals, so I agree it's not a good move at this point.

 

[Steeler]

Yep, banged the wife of 25 years at 5am this morning.  Take that dating guys!

In the shower, right?

 

[Buttonhook]

Sure, that's a good point to make.  Like offdee said, she's giving off some mixed signals, so I agree it's not a good move at this point.

So, what's your plan for tonight, assuming the date goes well?

1. Go balls deep till you see tears.

2. Hands off no matter what.  (Recommended)

Regardless, hope you have some fun and come back with a good story.

 

[Major]

Zedd - as others have stated, definitely no kiss when you first meet.  That's f'n weird for someone you just met especially if they're being fickle.  Also, if and when you decide to kiss her later on, don't ask, just do.  You need to make up for some earlier fumbles about asking her if its okay if you call her,etc.  Good luck homey!  

 

[Major]

Fellow Bumblers - any good retorts for this lame intros girls throw at you?  "Hey What's up?" "Hey there" "How's your day going?", etc.   I usual just give the generic (I'm great just been really busy with work and travel) and proceed to find something on their profile I can joke about.  Always open to quality schtick.  

 

[offdee]

Given the heavy makeout session on the first date, I thought it would be weird not to kiss her.  

If there has been sexual innuendo and flirty communications between that make out session and leading up to this date, then sure.   But it has been the opposite of that.  She's in "not sure" mode...he needs to take that same stance with her.   All the sexual tension has been lost...he needs to use the date to build that up again before anymore kissing.   Starting off with that would be an instant date killer for her.

 

[offdee]

Fellow Bumblers - any good retorts for this lame intros girls throw at you?  "Hey What's up?" "Hey there" "How's your day going?", etc.   I usual just give the generic (I'm great just been really busy with work and travel) and proceed to find something on their profile I can joke about.  Always open to quality schtick.  

What you're doing is exactly right GB.    Portrays you're a busy guy with a full life that they should be curious about, but you also have a good sense of humor too.   Can't really go wrong with that.

 

[Captain Cranks]

If there has been sexual innuendo and flirty communications between that make out session and leading up to this date, then sure.   But it has been the opposite of that.  She's in "not sure" mode...he needs to take that same stance with her.   All the sexual tension has been lost...he needs to use the date to build that up again before anymore kissing.   Starting off with that would be an instant date killer for her.

Yep.  He needs to high-tail it back to "I don't give a ####" mode.  

 

[offdee]

Fellow Bumblers - any good retorts for this lame intros girls throw at you?  "Hey What's up?" "Hey there" "How's your day going?", etc.   I usual just give the generic (I'm great just been really busy with work and travel) and proceed to find something on their profile I can joke about.  Always open to quality schtick.  

One good shtick option could be to play it off like when a girl is on a bad date and she has her friend contact her to rescue her.    Play that scenario out here....like you are on a bad date as you're reading her message and thanking her for saving you from that boredom.   Lots of great paths to go down and pretty much guaranteed to get a quick reply.

 

[The Grizz]

Fellow Bumblers - any good retorts for this lame intros girls throw at you?  "Hey What's up?" "Hey there" "How's your day going?", etc.   I usual just give the generic (I'm great just been really busy with work and travel) and proceed to find something on their profile I can joke about.  Always open to quality schtick.  

For as much as girls seem to complain about getting lame thoughtless opening messages, they sure like to use them on Bumble.  

 

[zed2283]

For as much as girls seem to complain about getting lame thoughtless opening messages, they sure like to use them on Bumble.  

Yep. Wimmins complain a lot about the quality of messages they get. But, they're the worst at keeping a conversation going. It's like they have no idea they should be asking questions too to keep things moving.

I agree completely.  The messages I get from women are the same ones on their profiles that they tell guys not to use.  And most are bad a keeping a conversation going.

I don't know why that would be a surprise though.  They all say they don't want games when they want games.  They all say they want a good guy when they don't.  They all say etc. etc.

 

[James Daulton]

Ha ha poor sad screwing multiple young chicks having total freedom dating guys.  Your life sucks haha

 

[cstu]

Yep. Wimmins complain a lot about the quality of messages they get. But, they're the worst at keeping a conversation going. It's like they have no idea they should be asking questions too to keep things moving.

No need to work on conversational skills when people offer you **** 10x a day.

 

[TLEF316]

No need to work on conversational skills when people offer you **** 10x a day.

This. 

 

[Captain Cranks]

No need to work on conversational skills when people offer you **** 10x a day.

Chris Rock

 

[zed2283]

Got a text from her that she's already hungry and excited about dinner.  Wish me luck! 

 

[saintfool]

Got a text from her that she's already hungry and excited about dinner.  Wish me luck! 

Tell her you are hung(ry) and excited too. 

 

[Major]

Got a text from her that she's already hungry and excited about dinner.  Wish me luck! 

text her back:  "I'll give you something to feast on"

 

[zed2283]

Who cares if you get a kiss to start the date?  It's what happens at the end of the date that sets up future expectations.

Sorry Zed, but you still seem real desperate by asking this question.  You seem like a nice guy, and it's probably going to be difficult for you to immediately transform yourself into the guy that offdee is suggesting. 

Since you cannot completely transform yourself for tonight's date, try a simple baby-step: no matter what, DO NOT kiss her, reach out to touch her, or invite her back to your place.  Doesn't matter how good the date is going, do not give in.  And if the date's going that well, she will likely initiate some of these moves on her own. 

Come to think of it, weren't you the one blowing off the Amazon chick?  And she kept coming back, more desperate each time? I think that's what offdee is talking about.

No problem, I'm doing good already.  She texted me that she would come to my place and let me drive to the restaurant and I told her no, I'll meet her there.

I got this, bro!!!

 

[James Daulton]

For an icebreaker, ask her how many times she gets offered **** per day.  Assure her it's only research requested by your magic football message board friends. 

 

[Skipdog77]

Got a text from her that she's already hungry and excited about dinner.  Wish me luck! 

98.7% chance she actually typed "horny" and auto-correct changed it to "hungry".

Definitely go for the hello kiss and grope. 

 

[zed2283]

Just got back.  Everything went really well.  I met her in the parking lot and we gave each other a nice warm hug.  Started walking through the parking lot and she immediately reached for my hand and held it all the way to the front door.  She was very touchy feely again all throughout dinner.  We were at a Japanese hibachi place at a large table of people, so we were sitting next to each other, and she constantly had her arm on my shoulder or rubbing my back, her foot rubbing my leg, holding my hand in her lap, etc.  It was very affectionate and nice.

I can't remember how but somehow the Wednesday night thing came up and I made a joke about being her mid-week date.  She said it was because she couldn't wait to see me.  I rolled my eyes, but it was nice.  Her ditching me on Saturday also briefly surfaced and she just said "I know, I'm terrible" or something and I just blew it off and kept going.  We flirted a bit and she kept talking about the things she was going to have to work on with me, and I told her the list seemed to keep getting longer and longer.  She used up all her white sauce and started using mine, to which I said "would you like my white sauce?"  It totally went over her head but I inwardly chuckled.

We were the last ones at the table and couldn't decide what to do next.  I totally wanted to invite her to my place but I resisted the temptation.  So we just went and sat in her car and made out again for 10-15 minutes.  Very nice.  Again I wanted to suggest we go back to my place, but I didn't.  I was being gentlemanly about things but once I started my kissing toward her ample cleavage she stopped me and said she should be heading home.  I said cool, we kissed a few more times, and each left for home.  She texted me a couple of times from the road and again when she got home.

 

[FFChick32]

Happy to hear things went well.....just want to add if you finish dinner and don't want the date to end, maybe search up a coffee/dessert spot nearby....doubt many girls would say no to that, and it would give you more time....I also approve of the not asking her to go back to your place....could have ruined what was otherwise going well...just follow her lead on that one....it won't be a big secret when the time is right for her...definitely a good sign that she was affectionate the whole time ?