lastresort66
Crude Noisemaker
Point taken.*forgets this is based on a guy's 3rd best year and not his career and thus, puts foot in mouth*
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Mr. Pickles
Footballguy
Dead wrong, but thanks for the info. I didn't know that.
Mr. Pickles
Footballguy
I've signed up over there, but haven't given the site any look beyond that.Of course I am now being accused of shopping for a particular season in mind.Brown isn't a sexy pic by any stretch, but the man gets it done. He was much more appealing than a guy like Sutton who has bad hair, does terrible broadcasts, and got into the Hall based solely on longevity.Brown was also a chemical engineering major at Georgia Tech.
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Koya
Footballguy
Brown is also an ahole. Might be a better pick than it appears. I am not drafting with wis in mind either. I have gone and checked my own players to get an idea what I actually have. Hopefully when I pick someone, they wont get too screwed by a third year.I've signed up over there, but haven't given the site any look beyond that.Of course I am now being accused of shopping for a particular season in mind.Brown isn't a sexy pic by any stretch, but the man gets it done. He was much more appealing than a guy like Sutton who has bad hair, does terrible broadcasts, and get into the Hall based solely on longevity.Brown was also a chemical engineering major at Georgia Tech.
Koya
Footballguy
I couldnt resist not knowing about my four batters already. I havent even looked at the pitchers, but was curious which years they had for Schmidt, Arod, Griff and Mize. Overall it seemed ok.Nope never even looked at the site, I'm not going there intentionally so it doesn't influence my picks.
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Mr. Pickles
Footballguy
I actually think this is hurting his value. James (yes, again) rates him as the 73rd best pitcher (through 2000), and I'd imagine he's climbed a bit since then. He admits that Brown's a giant ****, but says that he's a damn good pitcher. I think he's being underrated based on recency and image. His raw numbers are very appealing and frankly destroy most of the guys rated similarly.Brown is also an ahole. Might be a better pick than it appears. I am not drafting with wis in mind either. I have gone and checked my own players to get an idea what I actually have. Hopefully when I pick someone, they wont get too screwed by a third year.I've signed up over there, but haven't given the site any look beyond that.Of course I am now being accused of shopping for a particular season in mind.Brown isn't a sexy pic by any stretch, but the man gets it done. He was much more appealing than a guy like Sutton who has bad hair, does terrible broadcasts, and get into the Hall based solely on longevity.Brown was also a chemical engineering major at Georgia Tech.
Bogart
Footballguy
9.10 - Harold Joseph "Pie" Traynor - 3B
Hall of Fame third baseman considered to be the best third baseman to play the game for the first half of the century. Averaged a 0.320 BA (0.362 OBP), with 99 Runs and 106 RBI per year. Makes All-Time list in Batting Average, Hits, Triples, RBI and Sac Hits. Never struck out more than 28 times in a season. One of the top defensive third basemen in the history of the game, and the great John McGraw considered him "the finest team player in the game."
Great average, stellar defense and surprising speed. Perfect for my hot corner.
Hall of Fame third baseman considered to be the best third baseman to play the game for the first half of the century. Averaged a 0.320 BA (0.362 OBP), with 99 Runs and 106 RBI per year. Makes All-Time list in Batting Average, Hits, Triples, RBI and Sac Hits. Never struck out more than 28 times in a season. One of the top defensive third basemen in the history of the game, and the great John McGraw considered him "the finest team player in the game."
Great average, stellar defense and surprising speed. Perfect for my hot corner.
Mr. Pickles
Footballguy
..and by his former proximity to Nipsey.
lastresort66
Crude Noisemaker
Is funkley around? If so, we can probably blaze through 3 picks. 
Capella
Footballguy
In grad school, by BLAW teacher used to make us write "code names" on the tops of our tests, so he could post the grades with the code names so no feelings got hurt. It was funny b/c he was reading out the top grades and the top grade went to: "Buster Hymen" So to make a long story short, make your name "Buster Hymen"
Koya
Footballguy
And now the man who many thought was the best Catcher of the first half of the 20th C. - and who is consensus top 3 of that era without question:
MVP. Hall of Famer.
Charles Leo "Gabby" Harnett
BA OBP SLG R H 2B 3B HR RBI
297 .370 .489 867 1912 396 64 236 1179
An awesome catcher, with a legendary arm and exceptional offensive game (averaged near .300 with a .370 OBP).
Hit .300 or more six times, .339 or more three times.
Gabby Hartnett was not only a standout catcher, but a dangerous hitter. As a Cubs backstop, he caught 100 or more games 12 times, led the National League in putouts four times, and in assists and fielding average six times. The winner of the 1935 National League MVP award after hitting .344, Hartnett finished his career with a .297 batting average. As a player-manager in 1938, his late afternoon, near-darkness home run, known as the "Homer in the Gloamin'," helped the Cubs to their fourth pennant during his tenure as a player.
http://www.hickoksports.com/biograph/hartnettgabby.shtml
Joe McCarthy, who saw much of Mickey Cochrane and managed both Bill Dickey and Hartnett, called Gabby "The Perfect Catcher." He is widely considered the greatest NL catcher before Johnny Bench. His 20 years and 1,790 games behind the plate put him among the all-time leaders in service, and he is among the Cubs' all-time top ten in nine offensive categories. The BBWAA inducted him into Cooperstown in 1955. (JK)
http://www.baseballlibrary.com/baseballlib...tnett_Gabby.stm
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MVP. Hall of Famer.
Charles Leo "Gabby" Harnett
BA OBP SLG R H 2B 3B HR RBI
297 .370 .489 867 1912 396 64 236 1179
An awesome catcher, with a legendary arm and exceptional offensive game (averaged near .300 with a .370 OBP).
Hit .300 or more six times, .339 or more three times.
Gabby Hartnett was not only a standout catcher, but a dangerous hitter. As a Cubs backstop, he caught 100 or more games 12 times, led the National League in putouts four times, and in assists and fielding average six times. The winner of the 1935 National League MVP award after hitting .344, Hartnett finished his career with a .297 batting average. As a player-manager in 1938, his late afternoon, near-darkness home run, known as the "Homer in the Gloamin'," helped the Cubs to their fourth pennant during his tenure as a player.
http://www.hickoksports.com/biograph/hartnettgabby.shtml
Joe McCarthy, who saw much of Mickey Cochrane and managed both Bill Dickey and Hartnett, called Gabby "The Perfect Catcher." He is widely considered the greatest NL catcher before Johnny Bench. His 20 years and 1,790 games behind the plate put him among the all-time leaders in service, and he is among the Cubs' all-time top ten in nine offensive categories. The BBWAA inducted him into Cooperstown in 1955. (JK)
http://www.baseballlibrary.com/baseballlib...tnett_Gabby.stm
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Koya
Footballguy
A PS on the Gabby pick. (warning, this is pumping)PHEW. I have been debating taking Gabby since Dickey was taken. They were neck and neck for me, slight nod to Dickey because he was a lefty bat. Although I love MVP HoFs - means you were the best in the league at some point in a great overall career. However, I saw that only four guys from Bogart on needed catchers, and took a risk. I REALLY wanted Gabby, and would have been ok with three others... one of which I liked more than the other two. Got lucky on that gamble. Catcher seems to be underated in this draft. I will admit know knowing how good the top old catchers were, either (also incl. Dickey, Cochrane).
larry_boy_44
Footballguy
:rotflmao: I'm sure there is an insult in here somewhere... but I can't help myself... :rotflmao:"Hey it's Nipsey, he's in the all-time bible-thumping FFA-contest. Who ya got Nipsey?""Crosseyed, my first-round pick""Not bad, he certainly knows how to pound those bible verses. Should be solid. Who ya facing?""larry_boy_44""Oh yeah, who's he got?""larry_boy_44""Ouch."
Mr. Pickles
Footballguy
Yeah, somewhere..:rotflmao: I'm sure there is an insult in here somewhere... but I can't help myself... :rotflmao:"Hey it's Nipsey, he's in the all-time bible-thumping FFA-contest. Who ya got Nipsey?""Crosseyed, my first-round pick""Not bad, he certainly knows how to pound those bible verses. Should be solid. Who ya facing?""larry_boy_44""Oh yeah, who's he got?""larry_boy_44""Ouch."
Mr. Pickles
Footballguy
Redundant.
Big Mac is overrated. He strikes out a lot, and doesn't get on base. If you're looking for an out machine against these great pitchers, you've found one. You guys that think Chipper went early are kidding yourselves. He was by far the best 3B on the board, and better than two already picked.Geez, I go away for a few hours and I come back to what appears to be a few mental meltdowns. No way Kevin Brown should have been picked yet. Chipper, Sutton, and Fingers were also a little early.Then again, I'm the moron here who decided to draft McGwire and pair him with Ruth to have the best 3-4 part of the lineup in the history of baseball.
Nipsey
Footballguy
Any thoughts on Kevin Brown?Big Mac is overrated. He strikes out a lot, and doesn't get on base. If you're looking for an out machine against these great pitchers, you've found one. You guys that think Chipper went early are kidding yourselves. He was by far the best 3B on the board, and better than two already picked.Geez, I go away for a few hours and I come back to what appears to be a few mental meltdowns. No way Kevin Brown should have been picked yet. Chipper, Sutton, and Fingers were also a little early.Then again, I'm the moron here who decided to draft McGwire and pair him with Ruth to have the best 3-4 part of the lineup in the history of baseball.
Koya
Footballguy
Personally, I liked Pie Traynor more. Best early 3B.Big Mac is overrated. He strikes out a lot, and doesn't get on base. If you're looking for an out machine against these great pitchers, you've found one. You guys that think Chipper went early are kidding yourselves. He was by far the best 3B on the board, and better than two already picked.Geez, I go away for a few hours and I come back to what appears to be a few mental meltdowns. No way Kevin Brown should have been picked yet. Chipper, Sutton, and Fingers were also a little early.Then again, I'm the moron here who decided to draft McGwire and pair him with Ruth to have the best 3-4 part of the lineup in the history of baseball.
Mr. Pickles
Footballguy
I don't think he went early at all.Great f'n pick.Big Mac is overrated. He strikes out a lot, and doesn't get on base. If you're looking for an out machine against these great pitchers, you've found one. You guys that think Chipper went early are kidding yourselves. He was by far the best 3B on the board, and better than two already picked.Geez, I go away for a few hours and I come back to what appears to be a few mental meltdowns. No way Kevin Brown should have been picked yet. Chipper, Sutton, and Fingers were also a little early.Then again, I'm the moron here who decided to draft McGwire and pair him with Ruth to have the best 3-4 part of the lineup in the history of baseball.
Nipsey
Footballguy
McGwire? Or Chipper?I don't think he went early at all.Great f'n pick.Big Mac is overrated. He strikes out a lot, and doesn't get on base. If you're looking for an out machine against these great pitchers, you've found one. You guys that think Chipper went early are kidding yourselves. He was by far the best 3B on the board, and better than two already picked.Geez, I go away for a few hours and I come back to what appears to be a few mental meltdowns. No way Kevin Brown should have been picked yet. Chipper, Sutton, and Fingers were also a little early.Then again, I'm the moron here who decided to draft McGwire and pair him with Ruth to have the best 3-4 part of the lineup in the history of baseball.
Why on earth would you like him more?162 Game averages:Personally, I liked Pie Traynor more. Best early 3B.Big Mac is overrated. He strikes out a lot, and doesn't get on base. If you're looking for an out machine against these great pitchers, you've found one. You guys that think Chipper went early are kidding yourselves. He was by far the best 3B on the board, and better than two already picked.Geez, I go away for a few hours and I come back to what appears to be a few mental meltdowns. No way Kevin Brown should have been picked yet. Chipper, Sutton, and Fingers were also a little early.
Then again, I'm the moron here who decided to draft McGwire and pair him with Ruth to have the best 3-4 part of the lineup in the history of baseball.
Chipper: 109 runs, 34 doubles, 3 triples, 33 HR, 109 RBI, .304 BA, .401 OB, .537 SLG, 317 TB
Pie: 99 runs, 31 doubles, 14 triples, 5 HR, 106 RBI, .320 BA, .362 OB, .435 SLG, 275 TB
It's really gotten to the point where you, among others, will down a pick that I make simply to down it, without any remotely reasonable cause.
Pie was/is not close to as good as Chipper offensively across his career. If you compare career highs, Chipper trounces him in a similar fashion.
You guys that think Chipper went early are smoking something, and whatever it is, I hope you keep letting the outstanding modern players slide to me.
I think Kevin Brown has had some extraordinary years, and some mind-boggingly bad ones. He's a weird guy. Statistically, you have to respect some of the seasons that he's had, but I don't know what the story for his career really is, unless he has a revival in 2005-2007Any thoughts on Kevin Brown?Big Mac is overrated. He strikes out a lot, and doesn't get on base. If you're looking for an out machine against these great pitchers, you've found one. You guys that think Chipper went early are kidding yourselves. He was by far the best 3B on the board, and better than two already picked.Geez, I go away for a few hours and I come back to what appears to be a few mental meltdowns. No way Kevin Brown should have been picked yet. Chipper, Sutton, and Fingers were also a little early.Then again, I'm the moron here who decided to draft McGwire and pair him with Ruth to have the best 3-4 part of the lineup in the history of baseball.
Mr. Pickles
Footballguy
Chipper was a great pick. McGwire is vastly overrated.McGwire? Or Chipper?I don't think he went early at all.Great f'n pick.Big Mac is overrated. He strikes out a lot, and doesn't get on base. If you're looking for an out machine against these great pitchers, you've found one. You guys that think Chipper went early are kidding yourselves. He was by far the best 3B on the board, and better than two already picked.Geez, I go away for a few hours and I come back to what appears to be a few mental meltdowns. No way Kevin Brown should have been picked yet. Chipper, Sutton, and Fingers were also a little early.Then again, I'm the moron here who decided to draft McGwire and pair him with Ruth to have the best 3-4 part of the lineup in the history of baseball.
Capella
Footballguy
didn't say much about my recent picks, as they all really came at rushed times for me. So I'll take the easy route here and give a few thoughts James' had on them:
McCovey
"Lost three years as a regular at the start of his career because the Giants came up with McCovey and _____ at the same time and couldn't play them both at first base. He lost signficant parts of ten other seasons to injuries. The heart of his career was in the 60s, the most pitching-dominated decade since Ruth. He overcame all of these things to hit 521 home runs.
He had long, flat, narrow feet, which always gave him trouble, and a long sweeping swing, which should have led to 130 strikeouts a year, but never did. <snip> But if he played in the 1990s with the DH and the modern parks, he'd hit 800 home runs. "
I made that last part big, for later, when larry tries to convince me that Thomas > McCovey.
Willie Stargell
"Stargell had the quickest bat I ever saw. Even when he was old, near 40, he could be jammed, spin that big bat like a baton, and drive the ball 370 feet after you were sure he swung too late. Sometimes it looked like he didn't move anything except his fingers.."
Luis Aparicio
"In 1966 _________ was in the Orioles camp with Luis. 'He wouldn't talk to me at all,' recalled _______. 'He'd say 'Get away from me kid, get away from me.' So instead...I watched him all the time. I watched every move he made.'"
McCovey
"Lost three years as a regular at the start of his career because the Giants came up with McCovey and _____ at the same time and couldn't play them both at first base. He lost signficant parts of ten other seasons to injuries. The heart of his career was in the 60s, the most pitching-dominated decade since Ruth. He overcame all of these things to hit 521 home runs.
He had long, flat, narrow feet, which always gave him trouble, and a long sweeping swing, which should have led to 130 strikeouts a year, but never did. <snip> But if he played in the 1990s with the DH and the modern parks, he'd hit 800 home runs. "
I made that last part big, for later, when larry tries to convince me that Thomas > McCovey.
Willie Stargell
"Stargell had the quickest bat I ever saw. Even when he was old, near 40, he could be jammed, spin that big bat like a baton, and drive the ball 370 feet after you were sure he swung too late. Sometimes it looked like he didn't move anything except his fingers.."
Luis Aparicio
"In 1966 _________ was in the Orioles camp with Luis. 'He wouldn't talk to me at all,' recalled _______. 'He'd say 'Get away from me kid, get away from me.' So instead...I watched him all the time. I watched every move he made.'"
Koya
Footballguy
nice.didn't say much about my recent picks, as they all really came at rushed times for me. So I'll take the easy route here and give a few thoughts James' had on them:
McCovey
"Lost three years as a regular at the start of his career because the Giants came up with McCovey and _____ at the same time and couldn't play them both at first base. He lost signficant parts of ten other seasons to injuries. The heart of his career was in the 60s, the most pitching-dominated decade since Ruth. He overcame all of these things to hit 521 home runs.
He had long, flat, narrow feet, which always gave him trouble, and a long sweeping swing, which should have led to 130 strikeouts a year, but never did. <snip> But if he played in the 1990s with the DH and the modern parks, he'd hit 800 home runs. "
I made that last part big, for later, when larry tries to convince me that Thomas > McCovey.
Willie Stargell
"Stargell had the quickest bat I ever saw. Even when he was old, near 40, he could be jammed, spin that big bat like a baton, and drive the ball 370 feet after you were sure he swung too late. Sometimes it looked like he didn't move anything except his fingers.."
Luis Aparicio
"In 1966 _________ was in the Orioles camp with Luis. 'He wouldn't talk to me at all,' recalled _______. 'He'd say 'Get away from me kid, get away from me.' So instead...I watched him all the time. I watched every move he made.'"
Mr. Pickles
Footballguy
lol at removing this name.
Mr. Pickles
Footballguy
true.well, ya never know who's going to go in round 250.
