***OFFICIAL*** FFA MLB Draft (2 Viewers)

[Mr. Pickles]

I'll take Brady Anderson with my next pick, and I'm using 1996 no matter what you ####s think.

DO IT.

 

[Capella]

Koufax 27-9, 1.73 ERA, 323 IP, 241 Hits, 317 K'sYoung 28-9 2.08 ERA, 341 IP, 294 Hits, 176 K'sI'll take Koufax.

That's just one year. Why arbitrarily choose one year? Because you are totally disregarding the point of the draft and playing just for the sim? Oh, good reason. Thanks for joining, acknowledging the rules created to make this have some meaning, and ignoring them.I'll take Brady Anderson with my next pick, and I'm using 1996 no matter what you ####s think.

he can't use that season for koufax..

 

[Nipsey]

Koufax 27-9, 1.73 ERA, 323 IP, 241 Hits, 317 K'sYoung 28-9 2.08 ERA, 341 IP, 294 Hits, 176 K'sI'll take Koufax.

If we're just drafting third best seasons then GREAT PICK. I don't think that's what we're doing here....also game one is on a Saturday.

 

[lastresort66]

Koufax 27-9, 1.73 ERA, 323 IP, 241 Hits, 317 K'sYoung 28-9 2.08 ERA, 341 IP, 294 Hits, 176 K'sI'll take Koufax.

That's just one year. Why arbitrarily choose one year? Because you are totally disregarding the point of the draft and playing just for the sim? Oh, good reason. Thanks for joining, acknowledging the rules created to make this have some meaning, and ignoring them.I'll take Brady Anderson with my next pick, and I'm using 1996 no matter what you ####s think.

While you're at it, go ahead and draft Danny McLain and Mark "The Bird" Fidrych.

 

[Mr. Pickles]

also game one is on a Saturday.

:rotflmao:

 

[Politician Spock]

3.2 Pete Alexander

The guy would have won 400 games if he hadn't left to go fight in World War I in 1918. 373 career wins, and a career 2.56 ERA.

 

[Spartans Rule]

Koufax 27-9, 1.73 ERA, 323 IP, 241 Hits, 317 K'sYoung 28-9 2.08 ERA, 341 IP, 294 Hits, 176 K'sI'll take Koufax.

That's arguably Koufax's best year against Young's 4th or 5th.

 

[10993]

No, you quoted me as saying: "I'd be a ########. After all, I have to represent :e: here."You interpret it as "To join :e:, you have to be a ########" when it really means "I would be a ########, but because I'm representing :e: here, I'm obviously not."*sigh* With some people, you just have to spell it out.

I don't really understand. What exactly does :e: have to do with the ####? Is it like the visual thing, the e in the middle of the colons? Or the use of two colons, or what? Like the e is inside the colon?And how exactly do you join :e:? What is an :e: anyway? Is it like the fishing thing?

IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH :E:!!!:E: is not just a clique, it's a state of mind.And yes, you can participate in your own little special way. Just PM Zartan for details.

This is the part I'm not understanding. You say "it" has nothing to do with :E:. Are you referring to the ####? Are :E: and :e: the same things? I don't really know what you mean when you say it's a click, but if it has to do with arses I think I'll have to decline your invitation to participate. Or does it not have to do with arses?

 

[Politician Spock]

Koufax 27-9, 1.73 ERA, 323 IP, 241 Hits, 317 K'sYoung 28-9 2.08 ERA, 341 IP, 294 Hits, 176 K'sI'll take Koufax.

That's just one year. Why arbitrarily choose one year? Because you are totally disregarding the point of the draft and playing just for the sim? Oh, good reason. Thanks for joining, acknowledging the rules created to make this have some meaning, and ignoring them.I'll take Brady Anderson with my next pick, and I'm using 1996 no matter what you ####s think.

he can't use that season for koufax..

Explain.

 

[Mr. Pickles]

Well, you guys made it pretty hard on me by picking zero of the three guys that I was looking at... so here's hoping it stays hard.

2.09 Grover Cleveland (Pete) Alexander

One of the best five pitchers in baseball history. "Ol' Pete" won 30 games each season from 1915 to 1917 and led the league in ERA five times. No other National League pitcher has surpassed his marks of 373 victories and 90 shutouts.

bump for SPOCK

 

[lastresort66]

No, you quoted me as saying: "I'd be a ########.  After all, I have to represent :e: here."You interpret it as "To join :e:, you have to be a ########"  when it really means "I would be a ########, but because I'm representing :e: here, I'm obviously not."*sigh* With some people, you just have to spell it out. 

I don't really understand. What exactly does :e: have to do with the ####? Is it like the visual thing, the e in the middle of the colons? Or the use of two colons, or what? Like the e is inside the colon?And how exactly do you join :e:? What is an :e: anyway? Is it like the fishing thing?

IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH :E:!!!:E: is not just a clique, it's a state of mind.And yes, you can participate in your own little special way. Just PM Zartan for details.

This is the part I'm not understanding. You say "it" has nothing to do with :E:. Are you referring to the ####? Are :E: and :e: the same things? I don't really know what you mean when you say it's a click, but if it has to do with arses I think I'll have to decline your invitation to participate. Or does it not have to do with arses?

You have scrambled my brain to a point where I cannot give you an intellegent answer at this time.Please try again later.

 

[larry_boy_44]

do you guys still want write-ups of some sort for Mathewson and Clemens? or are you ok without them? I can do them if you want them, but I ended up staying with the sick fiancee about 7 hours longer than I planned (I was suppose to pick up the sibs from school at 3:00, but didn't have to, so I stayed 'til like 10... lol)so, do you want writeups or no? lol

 

[10993]

No, you quoted me as saying: "I'd be a ########. After all, I have to represent :e: here."You interpret it as "To join :e:, you have to be a ########" when it really means "I would be a ########, but because I'm representing :e: here, I'm obviously not."*sigh* With some people, you just have to spell it out.

I don't really understand. What exactly does :e: have to do with the ####? Is it like the visual thing, the e in the middle of the colons? Or the use of two colons, or what? Like the e is inside the colon?And how exactly do you join :e:? What is an :e: anyway? Is it like the fishing thing?

IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH :E:!!!:E: is not just a clique, it's a state of mind.And yes, you can participate in your own little special way. Just PM Zartan for details.

This is the part I'm not understanding. You say "it" has nothing to do with :E:. Are you referring to the ####? Are :E: and :e: the same things? I don't really know what you mean when you say it's a click, but if it has to do with arses I think I'll have to decline your invitation to participate. Or does it not have to do with arses?

You have scrambled my brain to a point where I cannot give you an intellegent answer at this time.Please try again later.

Should I let you off of it then? You seem to be hooked by the ####.

 

[Capella]

F'n Bill James nerds..

like you aren't..

Never read a sentence the man has written. Not one.Personally, I think his metrics are a tad arbitary and overreliant on statistical analysis. He's clearly not familiar with the notion of garbage in/garbage out. I mean, no amount of number crunching will reveal what he intends to find, but that's just my take on it. And I'm a numbers guy.

I must say I'm a bit surprised by that.I don't live and die by his theory, but I think a lot of his views make sense. Just another way to bounce numbers.

Well, let me put it this way: certain numbers make a lot of sense.. like OPS, for example. As I see it, there's a distinct problem when you start building complex formulas to account for everything like changes in era, ballpark, etc. As the formula grows in complexity, you start to lose touch with what the original numbers actually represent. In my opinion, no amount of data massaging will allow you to compare players' stats on a level field. James sort of takes the fun out of it by trying to crunch raw numbers and give some kind of "objective" or "quantitative" measure. IMO, this is fruitless and most likely impossible. I don't dispute everything he does, but at some point the arbitrariness and complexity of his analysis will only generate fluff that has little actual meaning. Baseball requires a certain level of subjectiveness that transcend the numbers, and James seems to have forgotten that to a certain degree.

fair enough, but people have been trying to quantify values of different players from different eras for as long as the game has been around..I do agree that it may appear he's piling numbers and categories on top of each other..but at the same time, I think he tied it all together better than anybody I've seen.Like I said, I don't live and die by the numbers, but I do like to look at them and see how certain players compare.And since we have no other way of doing that, I think it works alright..

 

[Mr. Pickles]

so, do you want writeups or no? lol

what's so funny?

 

[Politician Spock]

Well, you guys made it pretty hard on me by picking zero of the three guys that I was looking at... so here's hoping it stays hard.

2.09 Grover Cleveland (Pete) Alexander

One of the best five pitchers in baseball history. "Ol' Pete" won 30 games each season from 1915 to 1917 and led the league in ERA five times. No other National League pitcher has surpassed his marks of 373 victories and 90 shutouts.

bump for SPOCK

Okay, Steve Carlton then.

 

[Capella]

please guys..enough with the :e: crap already.

 

[Mr. Pickles]

F'n Bill James nerds..

like you aren't..

Never read a sentence the man has written. Not one.Personally, I think his metrics are a tad arbitary and overreliant on statistical analysis. He's clearly not familiar with the notion of garbage in/garbage out. I mean, no amount of number crunching will reveal what he intends to find, but that's just my take on it. And I'm a numbers guy.

I must say I'm a bit surprised by that.I don't live and die by his theory, but I think a lot of his views make sense. Just another way to bounce numbers.

Well, let me put it this way: certain numbers make a lot of sense.. like OPS, for example. As I see it, there's a distinct problem when you start building complex formulas to account for everything like changes in era, ballpark, etc. As the formula grows in complexity, you start to lose touch with what the original numbers actually represent. In my opinion, no amount of data massaging will allow you to compare players' stats on a level field. James sort of takes the fun out of it by trying to crunch raw numbers and give some kind of "objective" or "quantitative" measure. IMO, this is fruitless and most likely impossible. I don't dispute everything he does, but at some point the arbitrariness and complexity of his analysis will only generate fluff that has little actual meaning. Baseball requires a certain level of subjectiveness that transcend the numbers, and James seems to have forgotten that to a certain degree.

fair enough, but people have been trying to quantify values of different players from different eras for as long as the game has been around..I do agree that it may appear he's piling numbers and categories on top of each other..but at the same time, I think he tied it all together better than anybody I've seen.Like I said, I don't live and die by the numbers, but I do like to look at them and see how certain players compare.And since we have no other way of doing that, I think it works alright..

I think there is a point at which you take things too far, and IMO, James has done exactly that.There is a certain level of analysis that is fruitful and revealing, but he's gone so far over the edge as to be laughable.

 

[Doug B]

3.2 Pete Alexander

The guy would have won 400 games if he hadn't left to go fight in World War I in 1918. 373 career wins, and a career 2.56 ERA.

Mrharrier already took Alexander at 2.09.

 

[Capella]

Koufax 27-9, 1.73 ERA, 323 IP, 241 Hits, 317 K's

Young 28-9 2.08 ERA, 341 IP, 294 Hits, 176 K's

I'll take Koufax.

That's just one year. Why arbitrarily choose one year? Because you are totally disregarding the point of the draft and playing just for the sim? Oh, good reason. Thanks for joining, acknowledging the rules created to make this have some meaning, and ignoring them.I'll take Brady Anderson with my next pick, and I'm using 1996 no matter what you ####s think.

he can't use that season for koufax..

Explain.

All participants are asked to take place in a whatifsports.com simulation after the draft and FFA results are held. Cost is $10, and we will use a player's third-best season (determined by WIS.com's "salary system") to formulate the rosters.

unless whatif has that as his third-best season (which I doubt), you can't use him for the sim (ie, the Brady Anderson rule)

 

[Mr. Pickles]

3.2 Pete Alexander

The guy would have won 400 games if he hadn't left to go fight in World War I in 1918. 373 career wins, and a career 2.56 ERA.

Mrharrier already took Alexander at 2.09.

:honda:

 

[Capella]

F'n Bill James nerds..

like you aren't..

Never read a sentence the man has written. Not one.Personally, I think his metrics are a tad arbitary and overreliant on statistical analysis. He's clearly not familiar with the notion of garbage in/garbage out. I mean, no amount of number crunching will reveal what he intends to find, but that's just my take on it. And I'm a numbers guy.

I must say I'm a bit surprised by that.I don't live and die by his theory, but I think a lot of his views make sense. Just another way to bounce numbers.

Well, let me put it this way: certain numbers make a lot of sense.. like OPS, for example. As I see it, there's a distinct problem when you start building complex formulas to account for everything like changes in era, ballpark, etc. As the formula grows in complexity, you start to lose touch with what the original numbers actually represent. In my opinion, no amount of data massaging will allow you to compare players' stats on a level field. James sort of takes the fun out of it by trying to crunch raw numbers and give some kind of "objective" or "quantitative" measure. IMO, this is fruitless and most likely impossible. I don't dispute everything he does, but at some point the arbitrariness and complexity of his analysis will only generate fluff that has little actual meaning. Baseball requires a certain level of subjectiveness that transcend the numbers, and James seems to have forgotten that to a certain degree.

fair enough, but people have been trying to quantify values of different players from different eras for as long as the game has been around..I do agree that it may appear he's piling numbers and categories on top of each other..but at the same time, I think he tied it all together better than anybody I've seen.Like I said, I don't live and die by the numbers, but I do like to look at them and see how certain players compare.And since we have no other way of doing that, I think it works alright..

I think there is a point at which you take things too far, and IMO, James has done exactly that.There is a certain level of analysis that is fruitful and revealing, but he's gone so far over the edge as to be laughable.

you said yourself you haven't read a word of what he wrote..how can you suggest that without even knowing what he's saying?

 

[Kraft...]

Well, you guys made it pretty hard on me by picking zero of the three guys that I was looking at... so here's hoping it stays hard.

2.09 Grover Cleveland (Pete) Alexander

One of the best five pitchers in baseball history. "Ol' Pete" won 30 games each season from 1915 to 1917 and led the league in ERA five times. No other National League pitcher has surpassed his marks of 373 victories and 90 shutouts.

bump for SPOCK

Okay, Steve Carlton then.

F! Guess it was wishful thinking that he would slid to me anyway.Excellent Pick, next Lefty on my list, some drop off after him.

 

[larry_boy_44]

so, do you want writeups or no? lol

what's so funny?

I dunno... it just seemed to fit...I have very liberal usage of the "lol" thing... lolBUT, the question is, do you guys want a writeup? If you do, I need to know quick so I can get it together, if you dont' care, I won't do it...

 

[Mr. Pickles]

F'n Bill James nerds..

like you aren't..

Never read a sentence the man has written. Not one.Personally, I think his metrics are a tad arbitary and overreliant on statistical analysis. He's clearly not familiar with the notion of garbage in/garbage out. I mean, no amount of number crunching will reveal what he intends to find, but that's just my take on it. And I'm a numbers guy.

I must say I'm a bit surprised by that.I don't live and die by his theory, but I think a lot of his views make sense. Just another way to bounce numbers.

Well, let me put it this way: certain numbers make a lot of sense.. like OPS, for example. As I see it, there's a distinct problem when you start building complex formulas to account for everything like changes in era, ballpark, etc. As the formula grows in complexity, you start to lose touch with what the original numbers actually represent. In my opinion, no amount of data massaging will allow you to compare players' stats on a level field. James sort of takes the fun out of it by trying to crunch raw numbers and give some kind of "objective" or "quantitative" measure. IMO, this is fruitless and most likely impossible. I don't dispute everything he does, but at some point the arbitrariness and complexity of his analysis will only generate fluff that has little actual meaning. Baseball requires a certain level of subjectiveness that transcend the numbers, and James seems to have forgotten that to a certain degree.

fair enough, but people have been trying to quantify values of different players from different eras for as long as the game has been around..I do agree that it may appear he's piling numbers and categories on top of each other..but at the same time, I think he tied it all together better than anybody I've seen.Like I said, I don't live and die by the numbers, but I do like to look at them and see how certain players compare.And since we have no other way of doing that, I think it works alright..

I think there is a point at which you take things too far, and IMO, James has done exactly that.There is a certain level of analysis that is fruitful and revealing, but he's gone so far over the edge as to be laughable.

you said yourself you haven't read a word of what he wrote..how can you suggest that without even knowing what he's saying?

I've read up on the win share system. It's not from his mouth, but it was a very in-depth outline of how he calculates his valuations.Let's put it this way, if you require a 700+ page book to describe your methods, you've done something wrong.

 

[lastresort66]

Well, seeing as I already have Ruth, why not have a guy who's gonna be connected with Ruth as long as baseball is still gonna be around?

I hearby announce that I now have the greatest 1-2 power hitting punch of all time!

1B Mark McGwire

 

[Capella]

so, do you want writeups or no? lol

what's so funny?

I dunno... it just seemed to fit...I have very liberal usage of the "lol" thing... lolBUT, the question is, do you guys want a writeup? If you do, I need to know quick so I can get it together, if you dont' care, I won't do it...

not a requirement, but it's your team, feel free to explain your thinking or whatever however you want..

 

[Mr. Pickles]

Well, seeing as I already have Ruth, why not have a guy who's gonna be connected with Ruth as long as baseball is still gonna be around?

I hearby announce that I now have the greatest 1-2 power hitting punch of all time!

1B Mark McGwire

I was wondering when Big Mac would go..

 

[10993]

Well, seeing as I already have Ruth, why not have a guy who's gonna be connected with Ruth as long as baseball is still gonna be around?

I hearby announce that I now have the greatest 1-2 power hitting punch of all time!

1B Mark McGwire

in the third round? ouch

 

[Politician Spock]

Koufax 27-9, 1.73 ERA, 323 IP, 241 Hits, 317 K's

Young 28-9 2.08 ERA, 341 IP, 294 Hits, 176 K's

I'll take Koufax.

That's just one year. Why arbitrarily choose one year? Because you are totally disregarding the point of the draft and playing just for the sim? Oh, good reason. Thanks for joining, acknowledging the rules created to make this have some meaning, and ignoring them.I'll take Brady Anderson with my next pick, and I'm using 1996 no matter what you ####s think.

he can't use that season for koufax..

Explain.

All participants are asked to take place in a whatifsports.com simulation after the draft and FFA results are held. Cost is $10, and we will use a player's third-best season (determined by WIS.com's "salary system") to formulate the rosters.

unless whatif has that as his third-best season (which I doubt), you can't use him for the sim (ie, the Brady Anderson rule)

Koufax:1965 $15,237,502

1963 $13,585,447

1966 $13,242,528

In 1966 Koufax went 27-9, 1.73 ERA, 323 IP, 241 Hits, 317 K's

The season I posted for Young was his third best salary.

 

[Capella]

Koufax 27-9, 1.73 ERA, 323 IP, 241 Hits, 317 K's

Young 28-9 2.08 ERA, 341 IP, 294 Hits, 176 K's

I'll take Koufax.

That's just one year. Why arbitrarily choose one year? Because you are totally disregarding the point of the draft and playing just for the sim? Oh, good reason. Thanks for joining, acknowledging the rules created to make this have some meaning, and ignoring them.I'll take Brady Anderson with my next pick, and I'm using 1996 no matter what you ####s think.

he can't use that season for koufax..

Explain.

All participants are asked to take place in a whatifsports.com simulation after the draft and FFA results are held. Cost is $10, and we will use a player's third-best season (determined by WIS.com's "salary system") to formulate the rosters.

unless whatif has that as his third-best season (which I doubt), you can't use him for the sim (ie, the Brady Anderson rule)

Koufax:1965 $15,237,502

1963 $13,585,447

1966 $13,242,528

In 1966 Koufax went 27-9, 1.73 ERA, 323 IP, 241 Hits, 317 K's

The season I posted for Young was his third best salary.

ok, sorry..thought that would've been his 1 or 2

 

[Capella]

Well, seeing as I already have Ruth, why not have a guy who's gonna be connected with Ruth as long as baseball is still gonna be around?

I hearby announce that I now have the greatest 1-2 power hitting punch of all time!

1B Mark McGwire

Cards homer

 

[Spartans Rule]

3rd Round (33 overall) - Greg Maddux When you cast your eye over this list, firebreathing fastballers like Johnson, Grove and Clemens are the norm. But Maddux - one of the best control pitchers in history - is an anachronism, with a fastball that won't hit 90 on a good day. The four-time Cy Young Award winner (a feat matched only by Roger Clemens and Steve Carlton) might be the most dominant pitcher of the 1990s, and has achieved success without one defining or unhittable pitch. Instead, he thrives on discipline, outstanding pitch selection, complete command and pinpoint accuracy. A terrific fielder, he has also won 8 Gold Gloves. Beginning in 1993, he began a string of 4 seasons that were reminiscent of Koufax a generation ago - he won the Cy Young Award each year, took 3 ERA titles and led the league in innings pitched each time. Three times he led in complete games, and twice he led in shutouts. He had an off-year of sorts in 1996, going just 15-11 with a 2.72 ERA, and lost the ERA title to Kevin Brown and the Cy Young to teammate John Smoltz (24-7, 2.94 ERA). In 1997, he rebounded and posted outstanding numbers once again (19-4, 2.20 ERA), although an even better year by Pedro Martinez (17-8, 1.90 ERA) won the Cy Young. In 1998, Maddux the Magnificent was back, with another epic performance - a 2.22 ERA, and a 18-9 record. (Teammate Tom Glavine, who was 20-6 with a 2.47 ERA, won the Cy Young, making Maddux the bridesmaid for the second straight season.) A strong case could be made that Maddux's performance in 1995 was the single best in major league history - it's certainly up there with Lefty Grove's 1931, Bob Gibson's 1968, Mordecai "Three Finger" Brown's 1906, Ron Guidry's 1978, Steve Carlton's 1972, Dwight Gooden's 1985 and Pedro Martinez's 1999 and 2000. Maddux was 19-2, and his ERA that year of 1.63, in a year of ridiculously inflated offensive numbers, was 62% lower than the league average. Another strong case can be made that Maddux in 1994 posted the single greatest season in major league history - a 16-6 record in the strike-shortened year, and his 1.56 ERA (even lower relative to the league average than his previous year's number) was the third best in baseball since 1919. Certainly, Maddux in 1994-1995 has to be considered in the pantheon of great two-season performances

I really like this pick. Considered him when I took Pedro for a lot of the same reasons I took Pedro - his dominance of a hitter's era is remarkable.2 of the top 5 adjusted ERA seasons of all-time is insane. Unfortunately we go by 3rd best season in the sim and a lot of the rest of his seasons look the same - great, but not spectacular. Still, a very good value.

 

[lastresort66]

Well, seeing as I already have Ruth, why not have a guy who's gonna be connected with Ruth as long as baseball is still gonna be around?

I hearby announce that I now have the greatest 1-2 power hitting punch of all time!

1B Mark McGwire

Cards homer

Perhaps, but you can't argue with those 70 homers he hit in 1998.And if this is indeed based on his best year, it's pretty easy to say that he had a d*mn fine year in 1998.

EDIT to add: Cappy, how long is it gonna take till you draft Wade Boggs, who finished his career as a D-Ray?

 

[Capella]

pick coming in a sec, if anybody is hanging around..

 

[lastresort66]

I hope Cappy didn't leave for the night. It's his turn now, I believe, with Nipsey on deck.EDIT TO ADD: Nevermind.

 

[larry_boy_44]

1.16Christ MathewsonBats: R Throws: Rplayed: 1900-1916lived: 1880-1925He played all but one game for the New York Giants.top seasons: 1908 27 NYG NL 37 11 56 44 34 11 10 5 390.7 285 85 62 5 42 259 3 2 1499 1.43 2.39 168 1904 23 NYG NL 33 12 48 46 33 4 2 1 367.7 306 120 83 7 78 212 4 10 1456 2.03 2.73 134 1907 26 NYG NL 24 12 41 36 31 8 4 2 315.0 250 88 70 6 53 178 2 5 1240 2.00 2.46 123 1905 24 NYG NL 31 9 43 37 32 8 6 2 338.7 252 85 48 4 64 206 1 6 1319 1.28 2.93 230 1914 33 NYG NL 24 13 41 35 29 5 6 2 312.0 314 133 104 16 23 80 2 7 1251 3.00 2.65 88Accomplishments/Awards:2-time NL Triple Crown winner (1905 & 1908)2nd place NL MVP 19114th place NL MVP 1913Voted into the Hall of Fame in 1936Led league in ERA 5 times (1905, 1908, 1909, 1911, 1913)Led league in Wins 4 times (1905, 1907, 1908, 1910)Led league in Win-Loss % in 1910Led league in Hits/Walks per 9 Inning 4 times (1905, 1908, 1909, 1913)Led League in Walks/9 Innings 7 times (1908, 1909, 1911-1915)Led league in Strikeouts/9 Innings in 1903Led league in Strikouts 5 times (1903-1905, 1907, 1908)Led league in Shutouts 4 times (1902, 1905, 1907, 1908)Led league in adjusted ERA 5 times (1905, 1908, 1909, 1911, 1913)373 career wins, 2.14 career ERA, 2502 career KsPlus, he was top 10 in those stats a total of 10+ times EACH... yes, every one, ERA, Wins, Win-Loss %, etc.... all of them... EVERY YEAR!!!The guy was a stud, plain and simple and I am more than happy to have him as my #1 pitcher...

 

[Doug B]

I hope Cappy didn't leave for the night. It's his turn now, I believe, with Nipsey on deck.EDIT TO ADD: Nevermind.

Sammy has left, though. I think it'll stop at his pick tonight.Nice pace tonight, guys

 

[lastresort66]

1.16Christ MathewsonBats: R Throws: Rplayed: 1900-1916lived: 1880-1925He played all but one game for the New York Giants.top seasons: 1908 27 NYG NL 37 11 56 44 34 11 10 5 390.7 285 85 62 5 42 259 3 2 1499 1.43 2.39 168 1904 23 NYG NL 33 12 48 46 33 4 2 1 367.7 306 120 83 7 78 212 4 10 1456 2.03 2.73 134 1907 26 NYG NL 24 12 41 36 31 8 4 2 315.0 250 88 70 6 53 178 2 5 1240 2.00 2.46 123 1905 24 NYG NL 31 9 43 37 32 8 6 2 338.7 252 85 48 4 64 206 1 6 1319 1.28 2.93 230 1914 33 NYG NL 24 13 41 35 29 5 6 2 312.0 314 133 104 16 23 80 2 7 1251 3.00 2.65 88Accomplishments/Awards:2-time NL Triple Crown winner (1905 & 1908)2nd place NL MVP 19114th place NL MVP 1913Voted into the Hall of Fame in 1936Led league in ERA 5 times (1905, 1908, 1909, 1911, 1913)Led league in Wins 4 times (1905, 1907, 1908, 1910)Led league in Win-Loss % in 1910Led league in Hits/Walks per 9 Inning 4 times (1905, 1908, 1909, 1913)Led League in Walks/9 Innings 7 times (1908, 1909, 1911-1915)Led league in Strikeouts/9 Innings in 1903Led league in Strikouts 5 times (1903-1905, 1907, 1908)Led league in Shutouts 4 times (1902, 1905, 1907, 1908)Led league in adjusted ERA 5 times (1905, 1908, 1909, 1911, 1913)373 career wins, 2.14 career ERA, 2502 career KsPlus, he was top 10 in those stats a total of 10+ times EACH... yes, every one, ERA, Wins, Win-Loss %, etc.... all of them... EVERY YEAR!!!The guy was a stud, plain and simple and I am more than happy to have him as my #1 pitcher...

Great pick.(what this has to do with anything is beyond me)

 

[Mr. Pickles]

Capella, can you please post the draft progress on page 1? That would be super..

 

[Spartans Rule]

1.16Christ MathewsonBats: R Throws: Rplayed: 1900-1916lived: 1880-1925He played all but one game for the New York Giants.top seasons: 1908 27 NYG NL 37 11 56 44 34 11 10 5 390.7 285 85 62 5 42 259 3 2 1499 1.43 2.39 168 1904 23 NYG NL 33 12 48 46 33 4 2 1 367.7 306 120 83 7 78 212 4 10 1456 2.03 2.73 134 1907 26 NYG NL 24 12 41 36 31 8 4 2 315.0 250 88 70 6 53 178 2 5 1240 2.00 2.46 123 1905 24 NYG NL 31 9 43 37 32 8 6 2 338.7 252 85 48 4 64 206 1 6 1319 1.28 2.93 230 1914 33 NYG NL 24 13 41 35 29 5 6 2 312.0 314 133 104 16 23 80 2 7 1251 3.00 2.65 88Accomplishments/Awards:2-time NL Triple Crown winner (1905 & 1908)2nd place NL MVP 19114th place NL MVP 1913Voted into the Hall of Fame in 1936Led league in ERA 5 times (1905, 1908, 1909, 1911, 1913)Led league in Wins 4 times (1905, 1907, 1908, 1910)Led league in Win-Loss % in 1910Led league in Hits/Walks per 9 Inning 4 times (1905, 1908, 1909, 1913)Led League in Walks/9 Innings 7 times (1908, 1909, 1911-1915)Led league in Strikeouts/9 Innings in 1903Led league in Strikouts 5 times (1903-1905, 1907, 1908)Led league in Shutouts 4 times (1902, 1905, 1907, 1908)Led league in adjusted ERA 5 times (1905, 1908, 1909, 1911, 1913)373 career wins, 2.14 career ERA, 2502 career KsPlus, he was top 10 in those stats a total of 10+ times EACH... yes, every one, ERA, Wins, Win-Loss %, etc.... all of them... EVERY YEAR!!!The guy was a stud, plain and simple and I am more than happy to have him as my #1 pitcher...

Absolutely no doubt that this was a great pick. Would have been mine if you passed on him.I'd be more interested to see the Clemens write-up as I thought that was perhaps a bit of a reach.

 

[Doug B]

Capella, can you please post the draft progress on page 1? That would be super..

Not Pg 1, but here goes:1 1 pumpnick SP Walter Johnson1 2 Spock SP Sandy Koufax1 3 lastresort OF Babe Ruth1 4 Capella OF Willie Mays1 5 Nipsey SP Cy Young1 6 Sammy OF Ted Williams1 7 Pickles 1B Lou Gehrig1 8 Harrier OF Barry Bonds1 9 Doug B OF Stan Musial1 10 bogart 2B Rogers Hornsby1 11 Koya SP Lefty Grove1 12 funkley OF Ty Cobb1 13 Kraft OF Hank Aaron1 14 UCONN OF Mickey Mantle1 15 Spartans SS Honus Wagner1 16 Larryboy SP Christy Mathewson2 17 Larryboy SP Roger Clemens2 18 Spartans SP Pedro Martinez2 19 UCONN OF Tris Speaker2 20 Kraft OF Joe DiMaggio2 21 funkley 1B Jimmie Fox2 22 Koya 3B Mike Schmidt2 23 bogart OF Rickey Henderson2 24 Doug B SP Warren Spahn2 25 Harrier SP Grover Cleveland (Pete) Alexander2 26 Pickles OF Frank Robinson2 27 Sammy 3B Eddie Matthews2 28 Nipsey 2B Joe Morgan2 29 Capella 1B Pete Rose2 30 lastresort 2B Eddie Collins2 31 Spock SP Nolan Ryan2 32 pumpnick 2B Nap Lajoie3 33 pumpnick SP Greg Maddux3 34 Spock SP Steve Carlton3 35 lastresort 1B Mark McGwire3 36 Capella 3 37 Nipsey 3 38 Sammy 3 39 Pickles 3 40 Harrier 3 41 Doug B 3 42 bogart 3 43 Koya 3 44 funkley 3 45 Kraft 3 46 UCONN 3 47 Spartans 3 48 Larryboy

 

[Koya]

3rd Round (33 overall) - Greg Maddux When you cast your eye over this list, firebreathing fastballers like Johnson, Grove and Clemens are the norm. But Maddux - one of the best control pitchers in history - is an anachronism, with a fastball that won't hit 90 on a good day. The four-time Cy Young Award winner (a feat matched only by Roger Clemens and Steve Carlton) might be the most dominant pitcher of the 1990s, and has achieved success without one defining or unhittable pitch. Instead, he thrives on discipline, outstanding pitch selection, complete command and pinpoint accuracy. A terrific fielder, he has also won 8 Gold Gloves. Beginning in 1993, he began a string of 4 seasons that were reminiscent of Koufax a generation ago - he won the Cy Young Award each year, took 3 ERA titles and led the league in innings pitched each time. Three times he led in complete games, and twice he led in shutouts. He had an off-year of sorts in 1996, going just 15-11 with a 2.72 ERA, and lost the ERA title to Kevin Brown and the Cy Young to teammate John Smoltz (24-7, 2.94 ERA). In 1997, he rebounded and posted outstanding numbers once again (19-4, 2.20 ERA), although an even better year by Pedro Martinez (17-8, 1.90 ERA) won the Cy Young. In 1998, Maddux the Magnificent was back, with another epic performance - a 2.22 ERA, and a 18-9 record. (Teammate Tom Glavine, who was 20-6 with a 2.47 ERA, won the Cy Young, making Maddux the bridesmaid for the second straight season.) A strong case could be made that Maddux's performance in 1995 was the single best in major league history - it's certainly up there with Lefty Grove's 1931, Bob Gibson's 1968, Mordecai "Three Finger" Brown's 1906, Ron Guidry's 1978, Steve Carlton's 1972, Dwight Gooden's 1985 and Pedro Martinez's 1999 and 2000. Maddux was 19-2, and his ERA that year of 1.63, in a year of ridiculously inflated offensive numbers, was 62% lower than the league average. Another strong case can be made that Maddux in 1994 posted the single greatest season in major league history - a 16-6 record in the strike-shortened year, and his 1.56 ERA (even lower relative to the league average than his previous year's number) was the third best in baseball since 1919. Certainly, Maddux in 1994-1995 has to be considered in the pantheon of great two-season performances

I really like this pick. Considered him when I took Pedro for a lot of the same reasons I took Pedro - his dominance of a hitter's era is remarkable.2 of the top 5 adjusted ERA seasons of all-time is insane. Unfortunately we go by 3rd best season in the sim and a lot of the rest of his seasons look the same - great, but not spectacular. Still, a very good value.

I agree, very very good for a long time and uber consistent. But that lack of fire in my eyes... not going the distance, even for his era, is something that hurts Maddox in my eyes, compared to all time greats. Can not argue his effectiveness while in there, however.

 

[10993]

if we just had sammy here we could get all the way to bogart... are we sure he's gone?

 

[Kraft...]

Where are you guys getting win share stats, I can only find them for this season online.

 

[Nipsey]

I've got it narrowed down to 17 guys....

 

[Mr. Pickles]

Where are you guys getting win share stats, I can only find them for this season online.

pay up..

 

[lastresort66]

Where are you guys getting win share stats, I can only find them for this season online.

I'd tell you, but then I've have to kill you.Seriously, go to Borders, Barnes and Noble, or some other popular chain bookstore and buy the book. That's the only way you're gonna get them.EDIT TO ADD: Or you can just send me 20 dollars by paypal and you may or may not get my copy of the book. Expect 3-4 years for shipping.

 

[Kraft...]

Where are you guys getting win share stats, I can only find them for this season online. 

I'd tell you, but then I've have to kill you.Seriously, go to Borders, Barnes and Noble, or some other popular chain bookstore and buy the book. That's the only way you're gonna get them.EDIT TO ADD: Or you can just send me 20 dollars by paypal and you may or may not get my copy of the book. Expect 3-4 years for shipping.

cool, thanks

 

[Capella]

for some weird reason, I have this thing against taking 'modern' players, but I'd be a real dummy to pass up a 5-time Cy Young winner, 4-time ERA champ, 9-time strikeout winner, pitcher of a perfect game, World Series MVP, NL Triple Crown winner in 2002 and LEFT HANDED!!

Randy Johnson, SP

I'll put him up against Koufax, and I didn't have to pass on Babe to get him.