***OFFICIAL*** FFA MLB Draft (2 Viewers)

[Nipsey]

Didn't we learn anything from the hoop draft? Guys vote based on who they know, not on who's better.

The best team won in the end

I didn't mean to insult your club, it was solid. Just that the final two were made up of a lot of current NBA players. Guys like the great George Mikan didn't have a chance in that thing.

 

[Nipsey]

don't ever leave work.

Who works?

 

[Nipsey]

But I'm not breaking any rules, I'm not going to mention his Negro League career, I pro'lly won't mention any stats... I'll just say "Satchel Paige"...

I'm not convinced that will be enough. But I don't have a problem with you giving it a try.

I think he and Nipsey are overestimating it as well. 15 guys in here who know baseball took 270 players before him. Maybe we let him slide a few rounds too long given that his name does have some clout, but people who know baseball know that Satchel Paige didn't accomplish anything in MLB other than pitch in his 40's. Those would equate Paige to Walter Johnson in the vote are also the ones equating Fruit Loops to Lucky Charms. Perhaps that is 90% of the FFA, but I think that is an overestimation.

your forgetting that Paige is my #5 starter at best... well, maybe #4 lol, not sure if I'd put him over Gooden or not...

If you let the milk sit for a couple minutes, it turns chocolate.

Reported for racism.

 

[10993]

I'll take SP/RP Slim Sallee

 

[10993]

don't ever leave work.

Who works?

I thought you and I were the only ones here who don't "work"

 

[Koya]

But I'm not breaking any rules, I'm not going to mention his Negro League career, I pro'lly won't mention any stats... I'll just say "Satchel Paige"...

I'm not convinced that will be enough. But I don't have a problem with you giving it a try.

I think he and Nipsey are overestimating it as well. 15 guys in here who know baseball took 270 players before him. Maybe we let him slide a few rounds too long given that his name does have some clout, but people who know baseball know that Satchel Paige didn't accomplish anything in MLB other than pitch in his 40's. Those would equate Paige to Walter Johnson in the vote are also the ones equating Fruit Loops to Lucky Charms. Perhaps that is 90% of the FFA, but I think that is an overestimation.

your forgetting that Paige is my #5 starter at best... well, maybe #4 lol, not sure if I'd put him over Gooden or not...

If you let the milk sit for a couple minutes, it turns chocolate.

Reported for racism.

I think your insinuation of racism is racist.:reported:

 

[10993]

But I'm not breaking any rules, I'm not going to mention his Negro League career, I pro'lly won't mention any stats... I'll just say "Satchel Paige"...

I'm not convinced that will be enough. But I don't have a problem with you giving it a try.

I think he and Nipsey are overestimating it as well. 15 guys in here who know baseball took 270 players before him. Maybe we let him slide a few rounds too long given that his name does have some clout, but people who know baseball know that Satchel Paige didn't accomplish anything in MLB other than pitch in his 40's. Those would equate Paige to Walter Johnson in the vote are also the ones equating Fruit Loops to Lucky Charms. Perhaps that is 90% of the FFA, but I think that is an overestimation.

your forgetting that Paige is my #5 starter at best... well, maybe #4 lol, not sure if I'd put him over Gooden or not...

If you let the milk sit for a couple minutes, it turns chocolate.

Reported for racism.

I think your insinuation of racism is racist.:reported:

You guys now remind me of EvilGrin.:reported:

 

[Nipsey]

Nice getting a guy (in round 16!) who you can put up against Walter Johnson and argue that your guy was better.

Not to disrespect Paige, but I can draft Pee Wee Herman and argue that he was better than Walter Johnson.

Just the fact that you can make an argument is worthless. Anyone can argue anything. The key is to actually convince other people that you are correct.

You really think that Paige and Pee Wee Herman were on the same level pitching-wise?

Not my point.

What is your point? I'm talking about one of the greatest pitchers of all-time here. He was taken in a time of the draft when Jerry Koosman, Jimmy key, Tim Wakefield were taken. I'm saying you can't argue that those guys were as good as say Walter Johnson (the number one overall pick in this thing). You can however make a case that Paige was. That's why I say he was the SOD. That's my point.

no, he can't argue that.

all he can argue is what Paige did in his MLB career, which was nowhere near what The Big Train did.

and do you really think I plan on pounding stats with Paige??

I'm going to go "it's Satchel Paige, the greatest pitcher ever... PERIOD!!!"

no, you're not, unless you plan to argue that his 5-year MLB career is the greatest ever.

to mention his outside-MLB career in a write-up is cause for DQ.

,S

not ####ing around..we all spent too much time on this.

who said I was going to mention any stats?

I'm going to say, exactly:

Satchel Paige - greatest pitcher ever

and then how are you going to back that up based on his MLB career?

we know who he is...

it shouldn't need that much explaining...

True or False:

You're obviously planning on using Paige's Negro League career in explaining why he's on your roster. You wouldn't be able to use the "greatest ever" line otherwise.

EDIT: to take the insult out, because it really goes without saying..

The bottom line is this. Paige is one of the greatest pitchers of all-time and nobody who votes is going to care what the league parameters are in terms of allowing his Negro league numbers to be considered or not. You can write it a thousand times and it simply will not matter to the voters. They'll just know that he's considered one of the all-time greats and a hall of famer.

The pick should not have been allowed.

 

[Koya]

I am calling on mrharrier's excuse.he KNOWS that by coming in with a "I got way drunk and hung over" comment, we would give him a free pass.I bet he was really working, or doing something productive. Which, as we know, is NO excuse to delay a pick.

 

[Politician Spock]

PETA is gonna show up in here lest we stop beating this dead horse.

 

[Nipsey]

don't ever leave work.

Who works?

I thought you and I were the only ones here who don't "work"

I "work" but only a handful of days a year. People actually go into an office every weekday? I heard that's what people do, but didn't believe it was the truth.

 

[Koya]

by the way, since somebody asked a few pages back, i have Harrier's top 5 pitchers a shade better than LB44's top 5 pitchers (not including Satchel).by my reckoning, Koya has the best team overall, and it's not really that close. I have UCONN in 16th.

I just want to point out Oso's genius. He knows much more about baseball than about basketball (well, either that or my NBA team sucked. One of the two ). Speaking of UCONN, what happened to him?

 

[10993]

Nice getting a guy (in round 16!) who you can put up against Walter Johnson and argue that your guy was better.

Not to disrespect Paige, but I can draft Pee Wee Herman and argue that he was better than Walter Johnson.

Just the fact that you can make an argument is worthless. Anyone can argue anything. The key is to actually convince other people that you are correct.

You really think that Paige and Pee Wee Herman were on the same level pitching-wise?

Not my point.

What is your point? I'm talking about one of the greatest pitchers of all-time here. He was taken in a time of the draft when Jerry Koosman, Jimmy key, Tim Wakefield were taken. I'm saying you can't argue that those guys were as good as say Walter Johnson (the number one overall pick in this thing). You can however make a case that Paige was. That's why I say he was the SOD. That's my point.

no, he can't argue that.

all he can argue is what Paige did in his MLB career, which was nowhere near what The Big Train did.

and do you really think I plan on pounding stats with Paige??

I'm going to go "it's Satchel Paige, the greatest pitcher ever... PERIOD!!!"

no, you're not, unless you plan to argue that his 5-year MLB career is the greatest ever.

to mention his outside-MLB career in a write-up is cause for DQ.

,S

not ####ing around..we all spent too much time on this.

who said I was going to mention any stats?

I'm going to say, exactly:

Satchel Paige - greatest pitcher ever

and then how are you going to back that up based on his MLB career?

we know who he is...

it shouldn't need that much explaining...

True or False:

You're obviously planning on using Paige's Negro League career in explaining why he's on your roster. You wouldn't be able to use the "greatest ever" line otherwise.

EDIT: to take the insult out, because it really goes without saying..

The bottom line is this. Paige is one of the greatest pitchers of all-time and nobody who votes is going to care what the league parameters are in terms of allowing his Negro league numbers to be considered or not. You can write it a thousand times and it simply will not matter to the voters. They'll just know that he's considered one of the all-time greats and a hall of famer.

The pick should not have been allowed.

Oh, BTW, Nipsey is right about LarryBoy ####ing us on this one. If what he did was intentional, it was genius, and it will hav ea much bigger effect than you guys give him credit for. That said, it's within the rules, if not the spirit of them, and if he's not allowed to mention the Negro Leagues at all in his write up, I don't think there's much we can do.

 

[Nipsey]

Reported for racism.

I think your insinuation of racism is racist.

:reported:

To think I'm insinuating racism by calling another's post racist is racist.

:reported:

 

[Koya]

PETA is gonna show up in here lest we stop beating this dead horse.

we can go back to:Frank Thomas3rd Year Rule (which is still stupidity bred by greed and stubborness )Cy Young vs. Lefty GroveLebronOr, we can find a new horse to beat. Im all for a new horse.

 

[Kraft...]

Didn't we learn anything from the hoop draft?  Guys vote based on who they know, not on who's better.

The best team won in the end

I didn't mean to insult your club, it was solid.

To late, already insulted

 

[Kraft...]

by the way, since somebody asked a few pages back, i have Harrier's top 5 pitchers a shade better than LB44's top 5 pitchers (not including Satchel).by my reckoning, Koya has the best team overall, and it's not really that close. I have UCONN in 16th.

I just want to point out Oso's genius. He knows much more about baseball than about basketball (well, either that or my NBA team sucked. One of the two ). Speaking of UCONN, what happened to him?

I believe Oso is his acting proxy, UCONN sited work issues and an ill friend for a need for one(a proxy that is)

 

[Nipsey]

Didn't we learn anything from the hoop draft?  Guys vote based on who they know, not on who's better.

The best team won in the end

I didn't mean to insult your club, it was solid.

To late, already insulted

Jihad? :gang:

 

[Nipsey]

by the way, since somebody asked a few pages back, i have Harrier's top 5 pitchers a shade better than LB44's top 5 pitchers (not including Satchel).by my reckoning, Koya has the best team overall, and it's not really that close. I have UCONN in 16th.

I just want to point out Oso's genius. He knows much more about baseball than about basketball (well, either that or my NBA team sucked. One of the two ). Speaking of UCONN, what happened to him?

Clearly he was kidding Koya. WAKE UP!

 

[10993]

I am calling on mrharrier's excuse.he KNOWS that by coming in with a "I got way drunk and hung over" comment, we would give him a free pass.I bet he was really working, or doing something productive. Which, as we know, is NO excuse to delay a pick.

You can check my 1:25 bump of the tequila thread if you don't believe I was getting started--that was actually still 6 pages away from completion. I finished at 7:00, kept drinking, made my last post here at 9:19, and then crashed... like I said, sorry to leave you hanging, but at least I'm done with work for a couple weeks.

 

[10993]

don't ever leave work.

Who works?

I thought you and I were the only ones here who don't "work"

I "work" but only a handful of days a year. People actually go into an office every weekday? I heard that's what people do, but didn't believe it was the truth.

Yeah Nipsey, I don't know how the "Wake up, go to the office, stay there all day people" do it. I find my life of ultimate frisbee and creating new government policy to be slightly more sane right now.

 

[Koya]

Oh, BTW, Nipsey is right about LarryBoy ####ing us on this one. If what he did was intentional, it was genius, and it will hav ea much bigger effect than you guys give him credit for. That said, it's within the rules, if not the spirit of them, and if he's not allowed to mention the Negro Leagues at all in his write up, I don't think there's much we can do.

I dont believe everyone is so against that pick and yet some of those same people are insistent that our "other rules" like the 3rd year and no "worse" years dont work.If you want to keep things within the spirit of the draft, you can not arbitrarily dictate what picks are ok and what arent.This is a clear case - he mentions it. You make it known that page was 103 when he was in the MLB and that is all that counts.Let the chips fall where they may.Seems hypocritical too be so against changing one rule (which does not help nor benefit one team in particular) while being so willing to change this one, after the fact.

 

[Koya]

I am calling on mrharrier's excuse.he KNOWS that by coming in with a "I got way drunk and hung over" comment, we would give him a free pass.I bet he was really working, or doing something productive. Which, as we know, is NO excuse to delay a pick.

You can check my 1:25 bump of the tequila thread if you don't believe I was getting started--that was actually still 6 pages away from completion. I finished at 7:00, kept drinking, made my last post here at 9:19, and then crashed... like I said, sorry to leave you hanging, but at least I'm done with work for a couple weeks.

I was just bustin balls Mrharrier. And I admit, drinking too much is a good excuse in my book.

 

[Kraft...]

Didn't we learn anything from the hoop draft?  Guys vote based on who they know, not on who's better.

The best team won in the end

I didn't mean to insult your club, it was solid.

To late, already insulted

Jihad? :gang:

What is Jihad anyway? Trying to figure it out since it's been in this thread a few times. Is it debate? betrayel? I'm unclear on this, note my lack of board speak/shtick.

 

[10993]

PETA is gonna show up in here lest we stop beating this dead horse.

we can go back to:Frank Thomas3rd Year Rule (which is still stupidity bred by greed and stubborness )Cy Young vs. Lefty GroveLebronOr, we can find a new horse to beat. Im all for a new horse.

Lefty and Cy actually compare okay... but can we go back to Frank Thomas instead? That was the funniest one. Tell me the one where he was as a good a hitter as Barry Bonds again... :rotflmao:

 

[Koya]

by the way, since somebody asked a few pages back, i have Harrier's top 5 pitchers a shade better than LB44's top 5 pitchers (not including Satchel).by my reckoning, Koya has the best team overall, and it's not really that close.  I have UCONN in 16th. 

I just want to point out Oso's genius. He knows much more about baseball than about basketball (well, either that or my NBA team sucked. One of the two ). Speaking of UCONN, what happened to him?

Clearly he was kidding Koya. WAKE UP!

ok, NOW Ive had enough of you Nips!Seriously, I hope all is ok with UCONN. Sorry to hear about his friend.

 

[oso diablo]

Speaking of UCONN, what happened to him?

I believe Oso is his acting proxy, UCONN sited work issues and an ill friend for a need for one(a proxy that is)

oh wait, forgot about that. in that case, UCONN has a great team, and it's about to get better!

 

[Nipsey]

Lebron

Seriously, dude.....I wouldn't bring up LeBron in this thread if I were you. You killed several teams in that draft with that pick (including the guy running this draft who will remain nameless...think "Mikan"). You don't want to bring that up, trust me.

 

[Koya]

PETA is gonna show up in here lest we stop beating this dead horse.

we can go back to:Frank Thomas3rd Year Rule (which is still stupidity bred by greed and stubborness )Cy Young vs. Lefty GroveLebronOr, we can find a new horse to beat. Im all for a new horse.

Lefty and Cy actually compare okay... but can we go back to Frank Thomas instead? That was the funniest one. Tell me the one where he was as a good a hitter as Barry Bonds again... :rotflmao:

Im telling you, if you look at only odd numbers years from '91-98 exluding leap years and years with especially high tides, there is NO question that Frank Thomas was the better hitter than Bonds.Really, WHAT ELSE DO YOU NEED AS PROOF???

 

[10993]

Oh, BTW, Nipsey is right about LarryBoy ####ing us on this one. If what he did was intentional, it was genius, and it will hav ea much bigger effect than you guys give him credit for. That said, it's within the rules, if not the spirit of them, and if he's not allowed to mention the Negro Leagues at all in his write up, I don't think there's much we can do.

I dont believe everyone is so against that pick and yet some of those same people are insistent that our "other rules" like the 3rd year and no "worse" years dont work.If you want to keep things within the spirit of the draft, you can not arbitrarily dictate what picks are ok and what arent.This is a clear case - he mentions it. You make it known that page was 103 when he was in the MLB and that is all that counts.Let the chips fall where they may.Seems hypocritical too be so against changing one rule (which does not help nor benefit one team in particular) while being so willing to change this one, after the fact.

My point wasn't what you responded to. My point is that the pick was legal, and that the rules should not be changed. Just as I would have agreed with your argument for 3rd year or below before the draft, I would have agreed with Nipsey's argument against players like Satchel before the draft. I think in both cases, it's something where you can't change the rules midstream.

 

[Koya]

Lebron

Seriously, dude.....I wouldn't bring up LeBron in this thread if I were you. You killed several teams in that draft with that pick (including the guy running this draft who will remain nameless...think "Mikan"). You don't want to bring that up, trust me.

He is even more entrenched in an MVP type year. My NBA team is only looking better, as I knew it would be.

 

[Nipsey]

Didn't we learn anything from the hoop draft?  Guys vote based on who they know, not on who's better.

The best team won in the end

I didn't mean to insult your club, it was solid.

To late, already insulted

Jihad? :gang:

What is Jihad anyway? Trying to figure it out since it's been in this thread a few times. Is it debate? betrayel? I'm unclear on this, note my lack of board speak/shtick.

If you don't know what it is, don't ask. You don't want to know. :gang:

 

[Koya]

Speaking of UCONN, what happened to him?

I believe Oso is his acting proxy, UCONN sited work issues and an ill friend for a need for one(a proxy that is)

oh wait, forgot about that. in that case, UCONN has a great team, and it's about to get better!

you got the last part right at least. and come on Nips, you cant bit THAT easy on every Lebron mention. Its hardly fun anymore.

 

[Kraft...]

Didn't we learn anything from the hoop draft?  Guys vote based on who they know, not on who's better.

The best team won in the end

I didn't mean to insult your club, it was solid.

To late, already insulted

Jihad? :gang:

What is Jihad anyway? Trying to figure it out since it's been in this thread a few times. Is it debate? betrayel? I'm unclear on this, note my lack of board speak/shtick.

If you don't know what it is, don't ask. You don't want to know. :gang:

How will I even get board cred if I don't know such things?

 

[Koya]

Didn't we learn anything from the hoop draft?  Guys vote based on who they know, not on who's better.

The best team won in the end

I didn't mean to insult your club, it was solid.

To late, already insulted

Jihad? :gang:

What is Jihad anyway? Trying to figure it out since it's been in this thread a few times. Is it debate? betrayel? I'm unclear on this, note my lack of board speak/shtick.

If you don't know what it is, don't ask. You don't want to know. :gang:

How will I even get board cred if I don't know such things?

Just say Jihad and do the smiley. Like the emperor with no clothes, no one will know you have no idea what it means. just like no one has any idea THEY have no idea what the hell it means.

 

[Nipsey]

Lebron

Seriously, dude.....I wouldn't bring up LeBron in this thread if I were you. You killed several teams in that draft with that pick (including the guy running this draft who will remain nameless...think "Mikan"). You don't want to bring that up, trust me.

He is even more entrenched in an MVP type year. My NBA team is only looking better, as I knew it would be.

Seriously, you should zip it before Capella the guy running the draft gets back. You killed a lot of guys with that pick....

 

[10993]

Didn't we learn anything from the hoop draft? Guys vote based on who they know, not on who's better.

The best team won in the end

I didn't mean to insult your club, it was solid.

To late, already insulted

Jihad? :gang:

What is Jihad anyway? Trying to figure it out since it's been in this thread a few times. Is it debate? betrayel? I'm unclear on this, note my lack of board speak/shtick.

If you don't know what it is, don't ask. You don't want to know. :gang:

How will I even get board cred if I don't know such things?

What's this "board cred" you speak of? Is that what comes when you tell "poop at work" stories?

 

[Nipsey]

Didn't we learn anything from the hoop draft?  Guys vote based on who they know, not on who's better.

The best team won in the end

I didn't mean to insult your club, it was solid.

To late, already insulted

Jihad? :gang:

What is Jihad anyway? Trying to figure it out since it's been in this thread a few times. Is it debate? betrayel? I'm unclear on this, note my lack of board speak/shtick.

If you don't know what it is, don't ask. You don't want to know. :gang:

How will I even get board cred if I don't know such things?

If you want to....look at the slight Jihad I had w/ Shuke in the cereal draft round one, group two thread. Then look what happened. :gang:

 

[Sammy3469]

Capella should have Pickles pick and mine for that matter

 

[Capella]

Pickles takes Will Clark, 1B

Sammy takes Bob Elliot, 3B

And I agree with Nipsey on the LeBron pick.

 

[Sammy3469]

Personally I can't summarize this pick any better than this

Many of you, perhaps most, are now asking, "Who the hell is Bob Elliott?" I don't blame you. After all, Bob not only had a boring name but he apparently played a rather forgettable career as well. At least, that appears to be the case on this web site, where he is one of those unfortunate players without any profile at all. The truth is, Bob Elliott was one of the finest third basemen in baseball history. The National League MVP in 1947 and a seven-time All-Star, he compiled a career OPS of .815 and drove in nearly 1,200 runs. He was also considered by some to be the finest fielding third baseman in the National League, all while earning the nickname "Mr. Team".

I really have nothing to add. I'll include the link when the rest of the guys mentioned on the page are taken, but the makes some interesting arguments on 3B-men in general

 

[Funkley]

Didn't we learn anything from the hoop draft?  Guys vote based on who they know, not on who's better.

The best team won in the end

I didn't mean to insult your club, it was solid.

To late, already insulted

Jihad? :gang:

What is Jihad anyway? Trying to figure it out since it's been in this thread a few times. Is it debate? betrayel? I'm unclear on this, note my lack of board speak/shtick.

If you don't know what it is, don't ask. You don't want to know. :gang:

How will I even get board cred if I don't know such things?

What's this "board cred" you speak of? Is that what comes when you tell "poop at work" stories?

Possibly the only way a guy could stand up and dust himself off after one of the worst " Hi, I'm new here so whack me" posts ever.

 

[Koya]

Pickles takes Will Clark, 1B

Sammy takes Bob Elliot, 3B

And I agree with Nipsey on the LeBron pick.

Cap - can you at least recognize that while Lebron may have hurt you, it hurt me far more... but that is not the point.Never has there been bait so potent as :lebronbait:

 

[Koya]

also, bob elliot is a good pick. too many forgotten names... we get to ruth and gehrig and not much further.It would be curious to put up the "no name" guys like Elliot, Joe Medwick, Max Carey against the legends people remember.

 

[Koya]

dare i suggest we could make a run here before end of work? PLEASE leave lists if you wont be online tonight.

 

[Kraft...]

Nipsey, Mark Davis is still available if you're looking for another reliever.

 

[Koya]

we seem to be going on runs now, since the first half of the draft. pitching, then relievers, now back up infielders ... I suppose there are some positions that are simply more scarce than others and when you need to fill a need, you only have so many chances at those positions.

 

[Koya]

dare i suggest we could make a run here before end of work? PLEASE leave lists if you wont be online tonight.

nm

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

JIHAD

 

[larry_boy_44]

PETA is gonna show up in here lest we stop beating this dead horse.

we can go back to:Frank Thomas3rd Year Rule (which is still stupidity bred by greed and stubborness )Cy Young vs. Lefty GroveLebronOr, we can find a new horse to beat. Im all for a new horse.

Lefty and Cy actually compare okay... but can we go back to Frank Thomas instead? That was the funniest one. Tell me the one where he was as a good a hitter as Barry Bonds again... :rotflmao:

I said Thomas was BETTER than Bonds at the plate pre-2000 when Bonds went Roid-crazy...