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***OFFICIAL*** FFA MLB Draft (3 Viewers)

After reading the last few pages I have some statements to make:1) Mr. Ham is Pantangele. 2) Nipsey is neither Mr. Ham nor Pantangele.3) Mr. Ham is smarter than Nipsey, but Nipsey is more clever than Mr. Ham.3) I can not talk bad about a restaurant that's about to pay me thousands and thousands of dollars for one day of work, but I don't eat there and probably never will.4) Capella's drawing was awesome.5) I can't get free stuff for the restaurant/product in the commercials. I've done a bunch of spots and never once have been offered any merch. I do occasionally get to keep the clothes from the spot (usually the shoes).6) Started up on a 6 when he pulled from the clouds, and then I moved in above him.7) GB Sharday.

 
Maybe you can be in a new Wendy's spot..they got rid of that Mr. Wendy shtick, right? Maybe they just had the wrong guy to play that. :ph34r:
I was right there for Mr. Wendy, met the ad people and everything. The guy who booked it has the same agency I do. Huge gig for him, could have been 7 figures if it had kept going inot year 2. He kind of got hung out to dry, the spots sucked, didn't make him look to good. I thought they'd be much funnier. The director was Robert Weide, he directs a lot of Curb Your Enthusiasms so everyone thought it was going to be a great campaign. I remember watching the first one thinking how lame it was.
 
24 Members: Nipsey, Abashail, bishop92, Shadowfax, John Maddens Lunchbox, NorvilleBarnes, Guppy King Tygeb, Mr. Ham, kjberry, Burning Sensation, Family Matters, Zippy, Dickies, Mr. Brownstone, Infinite Justice, ((Morpheus)), The Jerminator, Love That Joker, kblitz, broncofan13000, red93zj, Noodlefish, msh1285, rodm

See Larry?

 
24 Members: Nipsey, Abashail, bishop92, Shadowfax, John Maddens Lunchbox, NorvilleBarnes, Guppy King Tygeb, Mr. Ham, kjberry, Burning Sensation, Family Matters, Zippy, Dickies, Mr. Brownstone, Infinite Justice, ((Morpheus)), The Jerminator, Love That Joker, kblitz, broncofan13000, red93zj, Noodlefish, msh1285, rodm

See Larry?
pfft.. you're just using firefox and internet explorer simultaneously. i do this all the time with my myriad aliaiaiai. :ph34r:
 
I go to my B-school class and I miss all the fun :cry: . I guess this thread is dead until Nipsey wakes up in the morningCongrats Spock and Nipsey

 
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24 Members: Nipsey, Abashail, bishop92, Shadowfax, John Maddens Lunchbox, NorvilleBarnes, Guppy King Tygeb, Mr. Ham, kjberry, Burning Sensation, Family Matters, Zippy, Dickies, Mr. Brownstone, Infinite Justice, ((Morpheus)), The Jerminator, Love That Joker, kblitz, broncofan13000, red93zj, Noodlefish, msh1285, rodm

See Larry?
pfft.. you're just using firefox and internet explorer simultaneously. i do this all the time with my myriad aliaiaiai. :ph34r:
Even to use this in demonstration casts sincere doubt over the claims that Nipsham is not one. We all know you can get to alialiailii in a room at the same time.Well, I am not sure if Mr. Ham is smart enough to do it, but Nipsey is.

Spock - congrats!

 
Ill ask one more time, then draft anyone if I dont get a definitive answer - what "constitutes" a relief pitcher, if we are supposed to have 2 RP on our staff.Or, do I just designate two of my pitchers to be relievers only and they are not allowed to start?

 
I think Spock said if he went MIA, his demon spawn was being born.

Whoever is up can pick.

Spock gets Rafael Santana, and a free plate of ribs, courtesy of Mr. Nipsey.
Yep. 8 pounds and 8 ounces.Who's up? :shrug:
you, and congrats on having no sleep for the next year and a half. :thumbup: in the meantime, I took the liberty to contruct a very rough layout of nipsey's next commercial.

SEE THE STORYBOARD HERE

I can't draw. :bag: It's supposed to be nipsey serenading a plate of ribs.
Chili's has green ribs??? :X "New Chili's Ribs Verde!"

:lol:

 
I think Spock said if he went MIA, his demon spawn was being born.

Whoever is up can pick.

Spock gets Rafael Santana, and a free plate of ribs, courtesy of Mr. Nipsey.
Yep. 8 pounds and 8 ounces.Who's up? :shrug:
you, and congrats on having no sleep for the next year and a half. :thumbup: in the meantime, I took the liberty to contruct a very rough layout of nipsey's next commercial.

SEE THE STORYBOARD HERE

I can't draw. :bag: It's supposed to be nipsey serenading a plate of ribs.
Chili's has green ribs??? :X "New Chili's Ribs Verde!"

:lol:
That may be the best artwork I have seen. Ever. Cap is my #1 pick for the All Painting Draft. Picasso's got nothing on him.

 
Ill ask one more time, then draft anyone if I dont get a definitive answer - what "constitutes" a relief pitcher, if we are supposed to have 2 RP on our staff.Or, do I just designate two of my pitchers to be relievers only and they are not allowed to start?
I think the definition is more for WIS purposes than anything else. WIS makes you have 3 RP that they think are RP (though that definition is somewhat vague). If they don't think he was ever a RP than you can't use him over there. I think that's the constraint everyone has been working under. If you can find a guy over there with his 3rd or worse (I'm not trying to start this argument over again) who had a season which they classify as a RP go for it. This would include guys like Pedro BTW. I personally don't have any problem with a staff of all SP, but WIS won't allow it.
 
24 Members: Nipsey, Abashail, bishop92, Shadowfax, John Maddens Lunchbox, NorvilleBarnes, Guppy King Tygeb, Mr. Ham, kjberry, Burning Sensation, Family Matters, Zippy, Dickies, Mr. Brownstone, Infinite Justice, ((Morpheus)), The Jerminator, Love That Joker, kblitz, broncofan13000, red93zj, Noodlefish, msh1285, rodm

See Larry?
pfft.. you're just using firefox and internet explorer simultaneously. i do this all the time with my myriad aliaiaiai. :ph34r:
Even to use this in demonstration casts sincere doubt over the claims that Nipsham is not one. We all know you can get to alialiailii in a room at the same time.Well, I am not sure if Mr. Ham is smart enough to do it, but Nipsey is.

Spock - congrats!
I don't care. Until I see a picture of Ham and Nipsey together, holding signs that say "Ham" and "Nipsey" I refuse to believe that they are not one and the same.And not a pic drawn at that Art Pad site :rant:

 
Ill ask one more time, then draft anyone if I dont get a definitive answer - what "constitutes" a relief pitcher, if we are supposed to have 2 RP on our staff.Or, do I just designate two of my pitchers to be relievers only and they are not allowed to start?
I think the definition is more for WIS purposes than anything else. WIS makes you have 3 RP that they think are RP (though that definition is somewhat vague). If they don't think he was ever a RP than you can't use him over there. I think that's the constraint everyone has been working under. If you can find a guy over there with his 3rd or worse (I'm not trying to start this argument over again) who had a season which they classify as a RP go for it. This would include guys like Pedro BTW. I personally don't have any problem with a staff of all SP, but WIS won't allow it.
thanks. i checked my pitching staff last night to add my last couple of picks - turns out that I wont have 3 eligible relievers as it is already (unless I missed something). As I said to you in PM, not sure how our rules will end up translating to WIS. I might have to just get a WIS reliever that isnt even on my team? Im not worrying about it.For now, I would like to know what is "fair" so I dont end up with only one "official" reliever, since i know some in this draft will jump up and down how that is not fair.Then again, if 5 teams already only have one, or no "official" relievers (again, I dont know how to judge, as we dont have a rule that I know of) then I dont want to be forced to take a reliever only when I can take someone how mostly started in their career.As of now, unless Cap tells me otherwise, Ill go with the best pitcher and deal with WIS later. Like you said, in WIS Pedro is considered ok for relief - so they seem to have a pretty arbitrary system.
 
Ill ask one more time, then draft anyone if I dont get a definitive answer - what "constitutes" a relief pitcher, if we are supposed to have 2 RP on our staff.Or, do I just designate two of my pitchers to be relievers only and they are not allowed to start?
I think the definition is more for WIS purposes than anything else. WIS makes you have 3 RP that they think are RP (though that definition is somewhat vague). If they don't think he was ever a RP than you can't use him over there. I think that's the constraint everyone has been working under. If you can find a guy over there with his 3rd or worse (I'm not trying to start this argument over again) who had a season which they classify as a RP go for it. This would include guys like Pedro BTW. I personally don't have any problem with a staff of all SP, but WIS won't allow it.
thanks. i checked my pitching staff last night to add my last couple of picks - turns out that I wont have 3 eligible relievers as it is already (unless I missed something). As I said to you in PM, not sure how our rules will end up translating to WIS. I might have to just get a WIS reliever that isnt even on my team? Im not worrying about it.For now, I would like to know what is "fair" so I dont end up with only one "official" reliever, since i know some in this draft will jump up and down how that is not fair.Then again, if 5 teams already only have one, or no "official" relievers (again, I dont know how to judge, as we dont have a rule that I know of) then I dont want to be forced to take a reliever only when I can take someone how mostly started in their career.As of now, unless Cap tells me otherwise, Ill go with the best pitcher and deal with WIS later. Like you said, in WIS Pedro is considered ok for relief - so they seem to have a pretty arbitrary system.
I say go with the best pitcher.Of course, I have no say. :ph34r:
 
Ill ask one more time, then draft anyone if I dont get a definitive answer - what "constitutes" a relief pitcher, if we are supposed to have 2 RP on our staff.Or, do I just designate two of my pitchers to be relievers only and they are not allowed to start?
I think the definition is more for WIS purposes than anything else. WIS makes you have 3 RP that they think are RP (though that definition is somewhat vague). If they don't think he was ever a RP than you can't use him over there. I think that's the constraint everyone has been working under. If you can find a guy over there with his 3rd or worse (I'm not trying to start this argument over again) who had a season which they classify as a RP go for it. This would include guys like Pedro BTW. I personally don't have any problem with a staff of all SP, but WIS won't allow it.
thanks. i checked my pitching staff last night to add my last couple of picks - turns out that I wont have 3 eligible relievers as it is already (unless I missed something). As I said to you in PM, not sure how our rules will end up translating to WIS. I might have to just get a WIS reliever that isnt even on my team? Im not worrying about it.For now, I would like to know what is "fair" so I dont end up with only one "official" reliever, since i know some in this draft will jump up and down how that is not fair.Then again, if 5 teams already only have one, or no "official" relievers (again, I dont know how to judge, as we dont have a rule that I know of) then I dont want to be forced to take a reliever only when I can take someone how mostly started in their career.As of now, unless Cap tells me otherwise, Ill go with the best pitcher and deal with WIS later. Like you said, in WIS Pedro is considered ok for relief - so they seem to have a pretty arbitrary system.
I just want to add that I personally drafted 3 RP for the sim, but I don't think it really matters one way or the other. I think we talked about this about 100 pages ago, but these 9th and 10th pitchers will probably play once a week in mop-up roles. I'd be very surprised if any of these guys are central to any team. The positional guys may be a little different, but there is only so many lefty-righty subs you can or would want to make. Even though I have Rizzuto, he's just not going to play that often.
 
Ill ask one more time, then draft anyone if I dont get a definitive answer - what "constitutes" a relief pitcher, if we are supposed to have 2 RP on our staff.Or, do I just designate two of my pitchers to be relievers only and they are not allowed to start?
I think the definition is more for WIS purposes than anything else. WIS makes you have 3 RP that they think are RP (though that definition is somewhat vague). If they don't think he was ever a RP than you can't use him over there. I think that's the constraint everyone has been working under. If you can find a guy over there with his 3rd or worse (I'm not trying to start this argument over again) who had a season which they classify as a RP go for it. This would include guys like Pedro BTW. I personally don't have any problem with a staff of all SP, but WIS won't allow it.
thanks. i checked my pitching staff last night to add my last couple of picks - turns out that I wont have 3 eligible relievers as it is already (unless I missed something). As I said to you in PM, not sure how our rules will end up translating to WIS. I might have to just get a WIS reliever that isnt even on my team? Im not worrying about it.For now, I would like to know what is "fair" so I dont end up with only one "official" reliever, since i know some in this draft will jump up and down how that is not fair.Then again, if 5 teams already only have one, or no "official" relievers (again, I dont know how to judge, as we dont have a rule that I know of) then I dont want to be forced to take a reliever only when I can take someone how mostly started in their career.As of now, unless Cap tells me otherwise, Ill go with the best pitcher and deal with WIS later. Like you said, in WIS Pedro is considered ok for relief - so they seem to have a pretty arbitrary system.
I say go with the best pitcher.Of course, I have no say. :ph34r:
That is what I would have thought, but there are some awfully sensitive people here. I dont want 5 months of discourse because of a 25th round pick. So I try to clarify.
 
Also, for WIS purposes... I see they have salary caps. I am not sure some of our teams are going to fit under even their largest cap - and I dont see a cap free league. Is one available? Otherwise, WIS aint gonna work and we will have to find an alternative.

 
Also, for WIS purposes... I see they have salary caps. I am not sure some of our teams are going to fit under even their largest cap - and I dont see a cap free league. Is one available? Otherwise, WIS aint gonna work and we will have to find an alternative.
I think Cap said he had talked to them and they can waive the cap.
 
Also, for WIS purposes... I see they have salary caps. I am not sure some of our teams are going to fit under even their largest cap - and I dont see a cap free league. Is one available? Otherwise, WIS aint gonna work and we will have to find an alternative.
I think Cappy addressed this with his "connections" over at WhatIf, they said they would make an exception I believe.
 
who is up? I would hate for it to be me and I just didn't see it.Last pick is locked and loaded and labeled "HOMER PICK".....

 
Also, for WIS purposes... I see they have salary caps. I am not sure some of our teams are going to fit under even their largest cap - and I dont see a cap free league. Is one available? Otherwise, WIS aint gonna work and we will have to find an alternative.
I think Cappy addressed this with his "connections" over at WhatIf, they said they would make an exception I believe.
Ahhh. PHEW. Cut down day was going to be a #####.Amos Rusie would have been the first out the door. A legend of the deadball era? Yes. Worth the GDP of a small nation in salary? No.
 
Even though I have Rizzuto, he's just not going to play that often.
But... the money store!!!!!!(maybe thats just a NY thing)
Nope I've seen those commercials here in MN...Doesn't Jim Palmer do them too?
Palmer may have some time back - he was famous for those fruit of the loom ads (my sister loved the guy).I can still hear it though..."this is Phil Rizzuto, with... THE MONEY STORE"
 
who is up? I would hate for it to be me and I just didn't see it.Last pick is locked and loaded and labeled "HOMER PICK".....
cappy is up followed by Nipsey...so we are essentially shut down until 1.They were so enthralled with Nipsey's Chili's commercial they left before picking. All that talk about ribs has inspired me to make them for the game Sunday.
 
who is up? I would hate for it to be me and I just didn't see it.Last pick is locked and loaded and labeled "HOMER PICK".....
cappy is up followed by Nipsey...so we are essentially shut down until 1.They were so enthralled with Nipsey's Chili's commercial they left before picking. All that talk about ribs has inspired me to make them for the game Sunday.
Ill bring the beer. (love ribs)
 
I think Spock said if he went MIA, his demon spawn was being born.

Whoever is up can pick.

Spock gets Rafael Santana, and a free plate of ribs, courtesy of Mr. Nipsey.
Yep. 8 pounds and 8 ounces.Who's up? :shrug:
you, and congrats on having no sleep for the next year and a half. :thumbup: in the meantime, I took the liberty to contruct a very rough layout of nipsey's next commercial.

SEE THE STORYBOARD HERE

I can't draw. :bag: It's supposed to be nipsey serenading a plate of ribs.
Chili's has green ribs??? :X "New Chili's Ribs Verde!"

:lol:
That may be the best artwork I have seen. Ever. Cap is my #1 pick for the All Painting Draft. Picasso's got nothing on him.
:thumbup: Guys..SP can be used as RP on WIS..it's no issue.

The cap will be waived.

I'll pick later..as I said last night, just skip me. Running busy and am not sure who I want.

 
I think Spock said if he went MIA, his demon spawn was being born.

Whoever is up can pick.

Spock gets Rafael Santana, and a free plate of ribs, courtesy of Mr. Nipsey.
Yep. 8 pounds and 8 ounces.Who's up? :shrug:
you, and congrats on having no sleep for the next year and a half. :thumbup: in the meantime, I took the liberty to contruct a very rough layout of nipsey's next commercial.

SEE THE STORYBOARD HERE

I can't draw. :bag: It's supposed to be nipsey serenading a plate of ribs.
Chili's has green ribs??? :X "New Chili's Ribs Verde!"

:lol:
That may be the best artwork I have seen. Ever. Cap is my #1 pick for the All Painting Draft. Picasso's got nothing on him.
:thumbup: Guys..SP can be used as RP on WIS..it's no issue.

The cap will be waived.

I'll pick later..as I said last night, just skip me. Running busy and am not sure who I want.
Ok, thanks. Then I will go with the best pitcher available and designate them a reliever only for my team. Not like whomever I pick now is breaking into my rotation anyways.
 
Even though I have Rizzuto, he's just not going to play that often.
But... the money store!!!!!!(maybe thats just a NY thing)
Nope I've seen those commercials here in MN...Doesn't Jim Palmer do them too?
Palmer may have some time back - he was famous for those fruit of the loom ads (my sister loved the guy).I can still hear it though..."this is Phil Rizzuto, with... THE MONEY STORE"
"That's 1-800-LOAN-YES!"
 
I've built a ranking system. It's pretty involved. First, i split up each team into pitching and non-pitching. Then, each group is split into 3: starters, key bench, and scrub bench. For pitchers, starters = 5 best pitchers, key bench = next 2, and scrub bench = rest. For batters, starters = best player at each position; key bench = best backups at catcher, middle infield, corner (1b/3b), and OF.I then ranked teams within each grouping (Batting starters, batting key bench, etc) by several metrics that i have in a database. These metrics include: my overall ranking, Bill James ranking, Best 3rd season by Win Shares, OPS+/ERA+, and some others.I then weighted the relative importance of each ranking, and each sub-grouping, to get an overall ranking.The 25th round picks probably won't shift the rankings much, but i have Sammy in the lead.

 
I've built a ranking system. It's pretty involved. First, i split up each team into pitching and non-pitching. Then, each group is split into 3: starters, key bench, and scrub bench. For pitchers, starters = 5 best pitchers, key bench = next 2, and scrub bench = rest. For batters, starters = best player at each position; key bench = best backups at catcher, middle infield, corner (1b/3b), and OF.I then ranked teams within each grouping (Batting starters, batting key bench, etc) by several metrics that i have in a database. These metrics include: my overall ranking, Bill James ranking, Best 3rd season by Win Shares, OPS+/ERA+, and some others.I then weighted the relative importance of each ranking, and each sub-grouping, to get an overall ranking.The 25th round picks probably won't shift the rankings much, but i have Sammy in the lead.
:thumbup:
 
weaknesses of my ranking system: does not account for ballpark, playing style, left/right combos, and probably a dozen other elements.

 
I've built a ranking system. It's pretty involved. First, i split up each team into pitching and non-pitching. Then, each group is split into 3: starters, key bench, and scrub bench. For pitchers, starters = 5 best pitchers, key bench = next 2, and scrub bench = rest. For batters, starters = best player at each position; key bench = best backups at catcher, middle infield, corner (1b/3b), and OF.I then ranked teams within each grouping (Batting starters, batting key bench, etc) by several metrics that i have in a database. These metrics include: my overall ranking, Bill James ranking, Best 3rd season by Win Shares, OPS+/ERA+, and some others.I then weighted the relative importance of each ranking, and each sub-grouping, to get an overall ranking.The 25th round picks probably won't shift the rankings much, but i have Sammy in the lead.
so what are the rankings then?
 
The 25th round picks probably won't shift the rankings much, but i have Sammy in the lead.
Do we really need to vote or play the SIM? :thumbup:That's quality analysis there.
 
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I've built a ranking system. It's pretty involved. First, i split up each team into pitching and non-pitching. Then, each group is split into 3: starters, key bench, and scrub bench. For pitchers, starters = 5 best pitchers, key bench = next 2, and scrub bench = rest. For batters, starters = best player at each position; key bench = best backups at catcher, middle infield, corner (1b/3b), and OF.I then ranked teams within each grouping (Batting starters, batting key bench, etc) by several metrics that i have in a database. These metrics include: my overall ranking, Bill James ranking, Best 3rd season by Win Shares, OPS+/ERA+, and some others.I then weighted the relative importance of each ranking, and each sub-grouping, to get an overall ranking.The 25th round picks probably won't shift the rankings much, but i have Sammy in the lead.
so what are the rankings then?
I'd like to see them myself.FWIW, the rankings I posted earlier for Career Win Shares and 3rd Best Win Shares Season were correct. Only the WS/162 was inaccurate.
 
considering a change to have 3 pitchers in the "key bench" category, rather than 2. opinions?remember, i have your 5 best pitchers labeled as "starters", although that doesn't mean that they are your SPs, just 5 best overall.

 
considering a change to have 3 pitchers in the "key bench" category, rather than 2. opinions?remember, i have your 5 best pitchers labeled as "starters", although that doesn't mean that they are your SPs, just 5 best overall.
Probably a good idea to go to 3, considering there is probably a Key Lefty a Key Righty and a Closer in most teams bullpen arrangment. Leaving two remaining guys for spot start and long relief duty.(assuming a 10 man staff, did anyone go 10+?)
 
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