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***OFFICIAL*** FFA MLB Draft (6 Viewers)

Bottom 10: Maranville Rabbits

Les Lancaster '89 is the new pitcher. Bill Terry hits a single. [1] Reggie Jackson flies out to shallow RF. Cal Ripken hits a popup single to LF. [12] Joe Wood is being pinch hit for by Rickey Henderson. Rickey Henderson hits a popup single to LF. [123] Billy Hamilton flies out to shallow RF. Max Carey hits a groundball single to CF.

Irish Cowboys 4

Maranville Rabbits 5
Les Lancaster = :own3d: As the Rabbits' win streak climbs to 10, with the Dragons, Arks and Lebron flying in tonight for a three game series...... :thumbup: :thumbup:
How'd the rematch go?
Les Lancaster didn't make it into the game.I will gladly take a split when game two is your number one (Alexander) versus my number four (McLain). Good game by your squad. Good to see Bonds is still out-of-this world.

Nice job waiting for the results of the second game before commenting to.
So what exactly happened to your winning streak, then?Bonds is actually unfairly reined in by the programmers--here's the list of people who have more HR than him, and shouldn't:

Al Simmons, Alex Rodriguez, Mike Schmidt, Jimmie Foxx, Lance Berkman, Harmon Killebrew.

Also, Bonds is batting .246, which is similarly BS.
ummm, for those counting at home, the winning streak reached 10, just like I said. Now I get Dragons, Arks and Lebron and Colome Is A God for 6 of the next 10 games. I am just liking this streak for my team.
It reached 10? You mean before the loss, right? Losses end winning streaks. Whose kickass team ended yours?
Yes, it reached 10. Including one win against your "kick-###" team. Congrats on the win.
It's sort of funny that you would get so snippy now about my team kicking you around, when just a couple pages ago you were so willing to gloat about a 1-run, extra-inning win.It's just sort of funny, that's all.
Not trying to be snippy. Just wondering why you were asking if my winning streak reached 10. Again, good win and can't wait to play your team again.
 
I thought you were in? Not paying attension? We should have waited a few weeks I don't know why everyone was in such a rush.
I've logged in a few times and bid on some guys but I'm not watching it that closely. I don't know what the rush was all about either.
 
Quantrill top 8 adjusted ERA: 238, 231, 193, 180, 156, 148, 143, 140Lee Smith: 231, 216, 200, 188, 183, 169, 152, 148John Franco: 229, 214, 212, 173, 172, 168, 162, 158Trevor Hoffman: 258, 205, 197, 178, 174, 161, 143, 140already covered EckersleyJeff Reardon: 318, 269, 210, 177, 166, 161, 142, 137Randy Myers: 291, 190, 187, 139, 139, 110, 105, 104then Fingersthose are the top 5 non Eck/Fingers guys on yoru list...other than the fact that they were closers (more glamour) what really makes them better than Quantrill?? Quantrill has better adjusted ERAs BY FAR than Randy Myers... heck he played better longer than Myers, too...so, the #6 guy you posted is not better than Quantrill, what were you talking about again?
Larry - they're better. The fact of the matter is you're probably a young guy who doesn't know the majority of these players. That's ok, the real issue is you stick your foot in your mouth when you try and compare Quantrill to two of the top relievers ever. It just makes you look foolish.
I didn't say Quantrill was actually better...I said statistically the argument could be made, and he does look better in a lot of ways...you guys are biased for 3 reasons:1. he isn't a starter2. he isn't a closer3. he's modernso you devalue him... plain and simple...
 
BTW, I think that Eck and Fingers are overrated.  Fingers more than Eck, but both are more revered for changing the role of relievers than what they did on the field.

That said, Quantrill isn't anything special, but he's probably underappreciated.  It actually wasn't that bad of a pick to be honest.
Listen, if you want to come in here with an original opinion, I'm all for it. But when you just recite some line from a book like it's fact, you add nothing to the discussion and I think you should be penalized in some way for that.
shut up Nipsey, you think everyone but you should be penalized for everything so you win...your opinion is, quite honestly, not worth much...

or, at least, it wouldn't be if we didn't know you were 100% sarcastic and trying to be funny 100% of the time...
Did you just tell me to shut up? Did you? That's it.IT'S ON LARRY, LIKE IT'S NEVER BEEN ON BEFORE.
I thought it was on 65 pages ago when I told everyone your deep dark secret about UCONN being your gay #####...(was it UCONN?? I think so, but I'm not sure... :rotflmao: )
Why do the ultra-religious constantly harp on the gay sex thing? What's the deal with that Larry? Why throw that out as an insult every time? For a guy that doesn't masturbate/never had sex/about to marry the first girl he'll sleep with, it's strange to me that you constantly bring up deviant sex when putting others down.Explaination?
:rotflmao: I'm not harping on it, I let it go, remember??

I was just pointing out that you said it was on like 50 pages ago, and, quite honestly, it hasn't been on even a little bit...
But by "IT'S ON", you assume it has something to do with gay sex. It doesn't. That's all I'm saying.
:no: :rotflmao: it had nothign to do with gay sex, your the only one who thinks that...
Are you sure Larry? You seem to enjoy labeling people as not only a "#####", but a "gay #####". Seems pretty gay to me.
 
There is a lot of pressure in these games against the wuss teams. God forbid you lose to King Kelly's or something.

 
Quantrill top 8 adjusted ERA: 238, 231, 193, 180, 156, 148, 143, 140Lee Smith: 231, 216, 200, 188, 183, 169, 152, 148John Franco: 229, 214, 212, 173, 172, 168, 162, 158Trevor Hoffman: 258, 205, 197, 178, 174, 161, 143, 140already covered EckersleyJeff Reardon: 318, 269, 210, 177, 166, 161, 142, 137Randy Myers: 291, 190, 187, 139, 139, 110, 105, 104then Fingersthose are the top 5 non Eck/Fingers guys on yoru list...other than the fact that they were closers (more glamour) what really makes them better than Quantrill?? Quantrill has better adjusted ERAs BY FAR than Randy Myers... heck he played better longer than Myers, too...so, the #6 guy you posted is not better than Quantrill, what were you talking about again?
Why are you comparing Quantrill, a middle inning reliever, to guys who spent nearly their entire careers pitching in clutch situations? :loco:
because that is exactly what the sim is looking at...
This right here tells you all you need to know about larry..
 
Quantrill top 8 adjusted ERA: 238, 231, 193, 180, 156, 148, 143, 140Lee Smith: 231, 216, 200, 188, 183, 169, 152, 148John Franco: 229, 214, 212, 173, 172, 168, 162, 158Trevor Hoffman: 258, 205, 197, 178, 174, 161, 143, 140already covered EckersleyJeff Reardon: 318, 269, 210, 177, 166, 161, 142, 137Randy Myers: 291, 190, 187, 139, 139, 110, 105, 104then Fingersthose are the top 5 non Eck/Fingers guys on yoru list...other than the fact that they were closers (more glamour) what really makes them better than Quantrill?? Quantrill has better adjusted ERAs BY FAR than Randy Myers... heck he played better longer than Myers, too...so, the #6 guy you posted is not better than Quantrill, what were you talking about again?
Larry - they're better. The fact of the matter is you're probably a young guy who doesn't know the majority of these players. That's ok, the real issue is you stick your foot in your mouth when you try and compare Quantrill to two of the top relievers ever. It just makes you look foolish.
I didn't say Quantrill was actually better...I said statistically the argument could be made, and he does look better in a lot of ways...you guys are biased for 3 reasons:1. he isn't a starter2. he isn't a closer3. he's modernso you devalue him... plain and simple...
Larry, WTF are you talking about then if you're not arguing that he's as good. Quantrill is not as good as any of the guys on the list, he doesn't belong anywhere near an all-time draft. And the worst part is you're defending it. I devalue him because HE'S NOT THAT GOOD! Understand?Here's baseball-reference's comparable players by age:Greg Harris (911) Bob Miller (907) Don Aase (905) Eric Plunk (905) Dan Schatzeder (904) Jim Gott (899) Eddie Fisher (897) Dennis Lamp (896) Gene Garber (896) Paul Lindblad (895) Quantrill belongs in whatever draft these guys are going in...
 
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You guys must have missed this. Seriously.
 
Quantrill top 8 adjusted ERA: 238, 231, 193, 180, 156, 148, 143, 140

Lee Smith: 231, 216, 200, 188, 183, 169, 152, 148

John Franco: 229, 214, 212, 173, 172, 168, 162, 158

Trevor Hoffman: 258, 205, 197, 178, 174, 161, 143, 140

already covered Eckersley

Jeff Reardon: 318, 269, 210, 177, 166, 161, 142, 137

Randy Myers: 291, 190, 187, 139, 139, 110, 105, 104

then Fingers

those are the top 5 non Eck/Fingers guys on yoru list...

other than the fact that they were closers (more glamour) what really makes them better than Quantrill?? Quantrill has better adjusted ERAs BY FAR than Randy Myers... heck he played better longer than Myers, too...

so, the #6 guy you posted is not better than Quantrill, what were you talking about again?
Why are you comparing Quantrill, a middle inning reliever, to guys who spent nearly their entire careers pitching in clutch situations? :loco:
because that is exactly what the sim is looking at...
This right here tells you all you need to know about larry..
Well, not all you need to know....
 
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CHECK OUT THE NEW LET'S GO DYNASTY LEAGUE

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Join now.

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You guys must have missed this. Seriously.
I did not know if that was for real or not. whats the deal there.
 
Larry, I'm not in this league or anything so I don't know how the sim stuff works, but Quantrill's career WHIP is 1.41. That's pretty awful. The reason his ERA isn't worse is because he's usually had strong closers pitching behind him to clean up his messes. You can't really argue that this guy is any good.
:goodposting:Also, conveniently ignored by larry.Bad career WHIP, terrible run as a starter, few good but not really special seasons mixed in, and now has spent the past 3 years pitching in front of Gagne and Rivera.And then not only gets defended in an all-time draft, but compared to some of the greats (and I agree with Fingers being overrated, FWIW). :loco:
I didn't say he was better... I said that statistically he is comparable...whether there were outside causes doesn't really matter, since WIS isn't gonna take that into consideration and niether will, really the record books in 30 years...Fingers and Eck were better... they did great things...but to say that Quantrill isn't a respectable pick based on his #s as a relief pitcher is laughable...
How can you say that they're statistically comparable when their WHIPs are vastly different? This is a blatant lie.
 
Quantrill top 8 adjusted ERA: 238, 231, 193, 180, 156, 148, 143, 140Lee Smith: 231, 216, 200, 188, 183, 169, 152, 148John Franco: 229, 214, 212, 173, 172, 168, 162, 158Trevor Hoffman: 258, 205, 197, 178, 174, 161, 143, 140already covered EckersleyJeff Reardon: 318, 269, 210, 177, 166, 161, 142, 137Randy Myers: 291, 190, 187, 139, 139, 110, 105, 104then Fingersthose are the top 5 non Eck/Fingers guys on yoru list...other than the fact that they were closers (more glamour) what really makes them better than Quantrill?? Quantrill has better adjusted ERAs BY FAR than Randy Myers... heck he played better longer than Myers, too...so, the #6 guy you posted is not better than Quantrill, what were you talking about again?
Larry - they're better. The fact of the matter is you're probably a young guy who doesn't know the majority of these players. That's ok, the real issue is you stick your foot in your mouth when you try and compare Quantrill to two of the top relievers ever. It just makes you look foolish.
I didn't say Quantrill was actually better...I said statistically the argument could be made, and he does look better in a lot of ways...you guys are biased for 3 reasons:1. he isn't a starter2. he isn't a closer3. he's modernso you devalue him... plain and simple...
Larry, WTF are you talking about then if you're not arguing that he's as good. Quantrill is not as good as any of the guys on the list, he doesn't belong anywhere near an all-time draft. And the worst part is you're defending it. I devalue him because HE'S NOT THAT GOOD! Understand?Here's baseball-reference's comparable players by age:Greg Harris (911) Bob Miller (907) Don Aase (905) Eric Plunk (905) Dan Schatzeder (904) Jim Gott (899) Eddie Fisher (897) Dennis Lamp (896) Gene Garber (896) Paul Lindblad (895) Quantrill belongs in whatever draft these guys are going in...
That pretty much proves it. The guy flat out sucks.If he is good, that means something is more wrong with the mechanism that is measuring him, or pure luck, as opposed to his abilities. Because it is clear, he doesnt have that much of them.
 
sim fishing still alive and well.
If anything ruined the draft, or wis at least, sim fishing did. To have everyone doing it, fair. No one doing it, fair. Some yes some no? :bs:
The last guy who should be talking about ruining drafts is you. I'm ####### serious. Go back to the hooters thread or something before you get your nose broken.
 
Larry, I'm not in this league or anything so I don't know how the sim stuff works, but Quantrill's career WHIP is 1.41.  That's pretty awful.  The reason his ERA isn't worse is because he's usually had strong closers pitching behind him to clean up his messes.  You can't really argue that this guy is any good.
:goodposting:Also, conveniently ignored by larry.Bad career WHIP, terrible run as a starter, few good but not really special seasons mixed in, and now has spent the past 3 years pitching in front of Gagne and Rivera.And then not only gets defended in an all-time draft, but compared to some of the greats (and I agree with Fingers being overrated, FWIW). :loco:
I didn't say he was better... I said that statistically he is comparable...whether there were outside causes doesn't really matter, since WIS isn't gonna take that into consideration and niether will, really the record books in 30 years...Fingers and Eck were better... they did great things...but to say that Quantrill isn't a respectable pick based on his #s as a relief pitcher is laughable...
How can you say that they're statistically comparable when their WHIPs are vastly different? This is a blatant lie.
because he's looking at one category while absolutely ignoring everything else.and he's 20 and really doesn't have a ####ing clue as to what he's talking about.
 
sim fishing still alive and well.
If anything ruined the draft, or wis at least, sim fishing did. To have everyone doing it, fair. No one doing it, fair. Some yes some no? :bs:
The last guy who should be talking about ruining drafts is you. I'm ####### serious. Go back to the hooters thread or something before you get your nose broken.
I like your verve, scamp.
 
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It's a fantasy football dynasty league.  Which, as you know, has never been done before.

Join now.

Seriously.
You guys must have missed this. Seriously.
I did not know if that was for real or not. whats the deal there.
It's a great league--that's the deal. Plus the entry fee is a lot lower than many of the other dynasty leagues that are run. That, and no ridiculous trades are allowed, so it keeps things from getting too out of hand.The web address (thought the league home page still need some work):

http://football.myfantasyleague.com/2004/home/74618

 
sim fishing still alive and well.
If anything ruined the draft, or wis at least, sim fishing did. To have everyone doing it, fair. No one doing it, fair. Some yes some no? :bs:
The last guy who should be talking about ruining drafts is you. I'm ####### serious. Go back to the hooters thread or something before you get your nose broken.
Letting yourself get so easily affected can not be healthy. Maybe not as bad as eating Soup Plantation, but still can not be a good thing.
 
ALSO

YOU GUYS SHOULD

CHECK OUT THE NEW LET'S GO DYNASTY LEAGUE

I'll even provide a link. Because I love you. Oh so much.

Let's Go: Football 2

It's a fantasy football dynasty league. Which, as you know, has never been done before.

Join now.

Seriously.
You guys must have missed this. Seriously.
I saw it, just seemed like a lot of reading for this hour. I'm interested though, but I don't know exactly what it is. (need to read it)
 
sim fishing still alive and well.
If anything ruined the draft, or wis at least, sim fishing did. To have everyone doing it, fair. No one doing it, fair. Some yes some no? :bs:
The last guy who should be talking about ruining drafts is you. I'm ####### serious. Go back to the hooters thread or something before you get your nose broken.
Letting yourself get so easily affected can not be healthy. Maybe not as bad as eating Soup Plantation, but still can not be a good thing.
I've never eaten there....any good?
 
sim fishing still alive and well.
If anything ruined the draft, or wis at least, sim fishing did. To have everyone doing it, fair. No one doing it, fair. Some yes some no? :bs:
The last guy who should be talking about ruining drafts is you. I'm ####### serious. Go back to the hooters thread or something before you get your nose broken.
Letting yourself get so easily affected can not be healthy. Maybe not as bad as eating Soup Plantation, but still can not be a good thing.
I've never eaten there....any good?
think it's called Sweet Tomatoes down here...not bad, just soup and salad and crap.
 
sim fishing still alive and well.
If anything ruined the draft, or wis at least, sim fishing did. To have everyone doing it, fair. No one doing it, fair. Some yes some no? :bs:
The last guy who should be talking about ruining drafts is you. I'm ####### serious. Go back to the hooters thread or something before you get your nose broken.
Letting yourself get so easily affected can not be healthy. Maybe not as bad as eating Soup Plantation, but still can not be a good thing.
I've never eaten there....any good?
think it's called Sweet Tomatoes down here...not bad, just soup and salad and crap.
I'm a big fan of the Sweet Tomatoes series. I thought ST 12 was particularly well shot.
 
Quantrill top 8 adjusted ERA: 238, 231, 193, 180, 156, 148, 143, 140Lee Smith: 231, 216, 200, 188, 183, 169, 152, 148John Franco: 229, 214, 212, 173, 172, 168, 162, 158Trevor Hoffman: 258, 205, 197, 178, 174, 161, 143, 140already covered EckersleyJeff Reardon: 318, 269, 210, 177, 166, 161, 142, 137Randy Myers: 291, 190, 187, 139, 139, 110, 105, 104then Fingersthose are the top 5 non Eck/Fingers guys on yoru list...other than the fact that they were closers (more glamour) what really makes them better than Quantrill?? Quantrill has better adjusted ERAs BY FAR than Randy Myers... heck he played better longer than Myers, too...so, the #6 guy you posted is not better than Quantrill, what were you talking about again?
Why are you comparing Quantrill, a middle inning reliever, to guys who spent nearly their entire careers pitching in clutch situations? :loco:
because that is exactly what the sim is looking at...
This right here tells you all you need to know about larry..
why? Because I picked guys because they had 8 seasons of 140+ adjusted ERA and I knew one of the top 4 (all 180+) were his WIS season??He was a quality pick, you are biased because he is not a closer...but in 10 years, when Middle Reliever is a position that is respected, Paul Quantrill will be considered one of the better ones ever...Closer didn't matter 20 years ago either, remember that...
 
sim fishing still alive and well.
If anything ruined the draft, or wis at least, sim fishing did. To have everyone doing it, fair. No one doing it, fair. Some yes some no? :bs:
The last guy who should be talking about ruining drafts is you. I'm ####### serious. Go back to the hooters thread or something before you get your nose broken.
Letting yourself get so easily affected can not be healthy. Maybe not as bad as eating Soup Plantation, but still can not be a good thing.
I've never eaten there....any good?
No. Some people love it. Gay guys love it - only time I went was because a client of ours was GLAAD (gay lesbian alliance against defamation) and it was accross from their offices by the beverly center. The rest of us pretty much hate it.WTF is with having Plantation in your name anyway. I understand it doesnt HAVE to be a negative connotation, but really. I digress.
 
Larry, I'm not in this league or anything so I don't know how the sim stuff works, but Quantrill's career WHIP is 1.41. That's pretty awful. The reason his ERA isn't worse is because he's usually had strong closers pitching behind him to clean up his messes. You can't really argue that this guy is any good.
:goodposting:Also, conveniently ignored by larry.Bad career WHIP, terrible run as a starter, few good but not really special seasons mixed in, and now has spent the past 3 years pitching in front of Gagne and Rivera.And then not only gets defended in an all-time draft, but compared to some of the greats (and I agree with Fingers being overrated, FWIW). :loco:
I didn't say he was better... I said that statistically he is comparable...whether there were outside causes doesn't really matter, since WIS isn't gonna take that into consideration and niether will, really the record books in 30 years...Fingers and Eck were better... they did great things...but to say that Quantrill isn't a respectable pick based on his #s as a relief pitcher is laughable...
How can you say that they're statistically comparable when their WHIPs are vastly different? This is a blatant lie.
when I drafted him solely 'cuz he didn't let a lot of runs across the plate, he is absolutely comparable...heck, he made an All Star Game as a MIDDLE RELIEVER!!how often has that happened?
 
ALSO

YOU GUYS SHOULD

CHECK OUT THE NEW LET'S GO DYNASTY LEAGUE

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It's a fantasy football dynasty league.  Which, as you know, has never been done before.

Join now.

Seriously.
You guys must have missed this. Seriously.
I saw it, just seemed like a lot of reading for this hour. I'm interested though, but I don't know exactly what it is. (need to read it)
Yeah, you don't really need to read the whole thing to get the gist of it. Basically, I've commished the Let's Go dynasty league, and it's been a huge success aside from the unbalanced trades some people have performed, so now I'm starting vers. 2.0 in order to replicate the good part and eliminate the bad.
 
ALSO

YOU GUYS SHOULD

CHECK OUT THE NEW LET'S GO DYNASTY LEAGUE

I'll even provide a link.  Because I love you.  Oh so much.

Let's Go: Football 2

It's a fantasy football dynasty league.  Which, as you know, has never been done before.

Join now.

Seriously.
You guys must have missed this. Seriously.
I saw it, just seemed like a lot of reading for this hour. I'm interested though, but I don't know exactly what it is. (need to read it)
Yeah, you don't really need to read the whole thing to get the gist of it. Basically, I've commished the Let's Go dynasty league, and it's been a huge success aside from the unbalanced trades some people have performed, so now I'm starting vers. 2.0 in order to replicate the good part and eliminate the bad.
When would it start?
 
sim fishing still alive and well.
If anything ruined the draft, or wis at least, sim fishing did. To have everyone doing it, fair. No one doing it, fair. Some yes some no? :bs:
The last guy who should be talking about ruining drafts is you. I'm ####### serious. Go back to the hooters thread or something before you get your nose broken.
Letting yourself get so easily affected can not be healthy. Maybe not as bad as eating Soup Plantation, but still can not be a good thing.
I've never eaten there....any good?
think it's called Sweet Tomatoes down here...not bad, just soup and salad and crap.
I'm a big fan of the Sweet Tomatoes series. I thought ST 12 was particularly well shot.
You discount ST5....(From Ebert's review): "Yeah, the first scene had some cherry tomatoes in there, but the last four were all filled with ripe, juicy tomatoes. Next to Plump Cantelopes 9, ST5 rates as an all time great."
 
sim fishing still alive and well.
If anything ruined the draft, or wis at least, sim fishing did. To have everyone doing it, fair. No one doing it, fair. Some yes some no? :bs:
The last guy who should be talking about ruining drafts is you. I'm ####### serious. Go back to the hooters thread or something before you get your nose broken.
Letting yourself get so easily affected can not be healthy. Maybe not as bad as eating Soup Plantation, but still can not be a good thing.
I've never eaten there....any good?
think it's called Sweet Tomatoes down here...not bad, just soup and salad and crap.
I'm a big fan of the Sweet Tomatoes series. I thought ST 12 was particularly well shot.
You discount ST5....(From Ebert's review): "Yeah, the first scene had some cherry tomatoes in there, but the last four were all filled with ripe, juicy tomatoes. Next to Plump Cantelopes 9, ST5 rates as an all time great."
What did you think of the SNL show last night Nipsey? Pretty good huh.
 
Closer didn't matter 20 years ago either, remember that...
:bs: In 1985 Bruce Sutter signed a record breaking contract with the Atlanta Braves. I'll never forget it because that was the same year his career took a dramatic drop.
Not to mention, Rich Gossage was the largest free agent signing in 1984 as well. From: http://espn.go.com/mlb/columns/stark_jayson/891711.html

Bringing in the bucks

Since Andy Messersmith was declared a free agent after the 1975 season, here are the free agents who secured the largest contracts each offseason (total dollar amount, not season average):

1976: Messersmith, Braves, 3 years/$1 million

1977: Reggie Jackson, Yankees, 5 years/$3 million

1978: Larry Hisle, Brewers, 6 years/$3,155,000

1979: Pete Rose, Phillies, 4 years/$3,225,000

1980: Nolan Ryan, Astros, 4 years/$4,500,000

1981: Dave Winfield, Yankees, 10 years/~$21 million (exact amount dependent on size of cost-of-living increases)

1982: Ron Guidry, Yankees, 5 years/$5 million

1983: Steve Garvey, Padres, 5 years/$6.6 million plus incentives

1984: Rich Gossage, Padres, 5 years/$6.25 million

1985: Bruce Sutter, Braves, 6 years/$10 million
 
sim fishing still alive and well.
If anything ruined the draft, or wis at least, sim fishing did. To have everyone doing it, fair. No one doing it, fair. Some yes some no? :bs:
The last guy who should be talking about ruining drafts is you. I'm ####### serious. Go back to the hooters thread or something before you get your nose broken.
Letting yourself get so easily affected can not be healthy. Maybe not as bad as eating Soup Plantation, but still can not be a good thing.
I've never eaten there....any good?
think it's called Sweet Tomatoes down here...not bad, just soup and salad and crap.
I'm a big fan of the Sweet Tomatoes series. I thought ST 12 was particularly well shot.
You discount ST5....(From Ebert's review): "Yeah, the first scene had some cherry tomatoes in there, but the last four were all filled with ripe, juicy tomatoes. Next to Plump Cantelopes 9, ST5 rates as an all time great."
What did you think of the SNL show last night Nipsey? Pretty good huh.
I did like it. I didn't think that's what'd be though, thought they'd show the clips. I liked the documentary style of it though. Very interesting.It did come off as a bit pretentious though. And hearing some of the stories I've heard about Lorne Michaels over the years, it kind of made me want to puke by the end of it. Still, I enjoyed it very much. Interesting to see how those guys careers have morphed over the years. Chase and Akroyd almost an after thought, while Murray still relevant.
 
sim fishing still alive and well.
If anything ruined the draft, or wis at least, sim fishing did. To have everyone doing it, fair. No one doing it, fair. Some yes some no? :bs:
The last guy who should be talking about ruining drafts is you. I'm ####### serious. Go back to the hooters thread or something before you get your nose broken.
Letting yourself get so easily affected can not be healthy. Maybe not as bad as eating Soup Plantation, but still can not be a good thing.
I've never eaten there....any good?
think it's called Sweet Tomatoes down here...not bad, just soup and salad and crap.
I'm a big fan of the Sweet Tomatoes series. I thought ST 12 was particularly well shot.
You discount ST5....(From Ebert's review): "Yeah, the first scene had some cherry tomatoes in there, but the last four were all filled with ripe, juicy tomatoes. Next to Plump Cantelopes 9, ST5 rates as an all time great."
What did you think of the SNL show last night Nipsey? Pretty good huh.
I did like it. I didn't think that's what'd be though, thought they'd show the clips. I liked the documentary style of it though. Very interesting.It did come off as a bit pretentious though. And hearing some of the stories I've heard about Lorne Michaels over the years, it kind of made me want to puke by the end of it. Still, I enjoyed it very much. Interesting to see how those guys careers have morphed over the years. Chase and Akroyd almost an after thought, while Murray still relevant.
I was trying to think if Gilda Radner ever did anything post SNL. I know she got sick but was there a break in time between her end on SNL and her illness?
 
ALSO

YOU GUYS SHOULD

CHECK OUT THE NEW LET'S GO DYNASTY LEAGUE

I'll even provide a link.  Because I love you.  Oh so much.

Let's Go: Football 2

It's a fantasy football dynasty league.  Which, as you know, has never been done before.

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Seriously.
You guys must have missed this. Seriously.
I saw it, just seemed like a lot of reading for this hour. I'm interested though, but I don't know exactly what it is. (need to read it)
Yeah, you don't really need to read the whole thing to get the gist of it. Basically, I've commished the Let's Go dynasty league, and it's been a huge success aside from the unbalanced trades some people have performed, so now I'm starting vers. 2.0 in order to replicate the good part and eliminate the bad.
When would it start?
Initial veteran draft ASAP, rookie draft first week of May
 
I wish the old guys didnt have such poor defensive grades. I would love to play Sam Crawford but that D in the field scares the crap out of me.

 
I wish the old guys didnt have such poor defensive grades. I would love to play Sam Crawford but that D in the field scares the crap out of me.
I sometimes sub in guys that don't even have defensive grades at certain positions (e.g. Will Clark at SS). It doesn't kill you. Sheff has a D/D rating in the OF and I think he's yet to make an error.
 
sim fishing still alive and well.
If anything ruined the draft, or wis at least, sim fishing did. To have everyone doing it, fair. No one doing it, fair.

Some yes some no? :bs:
The last guy who should be talking about ruining drafts is you. I'm ####### serious. Go back to the hooters thread or something before you get your nose broken.
Letting yourself get so easily affected can not be healthy.

Maybe not as bad as eating Soup Plantation, but still can not be a good thing.
I've never eaten there....any good?
think it's called Sweet Tomatoes down here...not bad, just soup and salad and crap.
I'm a big fan of the Sweet Tomatoes series. I thought ST 12 was particularly well shot.
You discount ST5....(From Ebert's review): "Yeah, the first scene had some cherry tomatoes in there, but the last four were all filled with ripe, juicy tomatoes. Next to Plump Cantelopes 9, ST5 rates as an all time great."
What did you think of the SNL show last night Nipsey? Pretty good huh.
I did like it. I didn't think that's what'd be though, thought they'd show the clips. I liked the documentary style of it though. Very interesting.

It did come off as a bit pretentious though. And hearing some of the stories I've heard about Lorne Michaels over the years, it kind of made me want to puke by the end of it. Still, I enjoyed it very much. Interesting to see how those guys careers have morphed over the years. Chase and Akroyd almost an after thought, while Murray still relevant.
I was trying to think if Gilda Radner ever did anything post SNL. I know she got sick but was there a break in time between her end on SNL and her illness?
Yes, she worked post SNL...

link

I rememebr that haunted honeymoon movie she did with Gene Wilder. He never recovered from her death. Guy just dropped into a major depression. Too bad because he was a genius.

 
I wish the old guys didnt have such poor defensive grades. I would love to play Sam Crawford but that D in the field scares the crap out of me.
I sometimes sub in guys that don't even have defensive grades at certain positions (e.g. Will Clark at SS). It doesn't kill you. Sheff has a D/D rating in the OF and I think he's yet to make an error.
hmmmm.... interesting. very interesting.
 
ALSO

YOU GUYS SHOULD

CHECK OUT THE NEW LET'S GO DYNASTY LEAGUE

I'll even provide a link.  Because I love you.  Oh so much.

Let's Go: Football 2

It's a fantasy football dynasty league.  Which, as you know, has never been done before.

Join now.

Seriously.
You guys must have missed this. Seriously.
I saw it, just seemed like a lot of reading for this hour. I'm interested though, but I don't know exactly what it is. (need to read it)
Yeah, you don't really need to read the whole thing to get the gist of it. Basically, I've commished the Let's Go dynasty league, and it's been a huge success aside from the unbalanced trades some people have performed, so now I'm starting vers. 2.0 in order to replicate the good part and eliminate the bad.
When would it start?
Initial veteran draft ASAP, rookie draft first week of May
I may be out of town for a while in May, not sure if I can do a draft then.
 
I wish the old guys didnt have such poor defensive grades. I would love to play Sam Crawford but that D in the field scares the crap out of me.
I sometimes sub in guys that don't even have defensive grades at certain positions (e.g. Will Clark at SS). It doesn't kill you. Sheff has a D/D rating in the OF and I think he's yet to make an error.
How many flyballs went for hits where A range outfielders would have caught it?
 
I wish the old guys didnt have such poor defensive grades. I would love to play Sam Crawford but that D in the field scares the crap out of me.
I sometimes sub in guys that don't even have defensive grades at certain positions (e.g. Will Clark at SS). It doesn't kill you. Sheff has a D/D rating in the OF and I think he's yet to make an error.
How many flyballs went for hits where A range outfielders would have caught it?
No clue, but he hasn't really hurt me from what I can tell.
 
Closer didn't matter 20 years ago either, remember that...
:bs:In 1985 Bruce Sutter signed a record breaking contract with the Atlanta Braves. I'll never forget it because that was the same year his career took a dramatic drop.
alright, 30 years then... happy?The point is that there was a point in time when you woudl have said closers didn't matter, too...
 

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