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*****OFFICIAL FORMULA ONE GRAND PRIX THREAD***** (2 Viewers)
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Skipdog77
Footballguy
Not long. Testing usually starts the last week of February, and the first race is usually rhe first weekend in March (since the schedule went to eleventybillion races).
TennesseeJed
Footballguy
Both in Bahrain
Testing: February 21-23 2024
First Race: March 2 (1 week after testing.)
The normal version should be there too, you just need to dig through the menu a bit.Stupid YouTubeTV recorded the "kids" version of the Abu Dhabi GP this morning on ESPNU instead of the normal race on ESPN.
Skipdog77
Footballguy
The normal version should be there too, you just need to dig through the menu a bit.Stupid YouTubeTV recorded the "kids" version of the Abu Dhabi GP this morning on ESPNU instead of the normal race on ESPN.
Not a big deal, found it on ESPN+ and was able to watch it, just kind of annoying.weird, YouTubeTV recorded it on both channels (ESPNU and ESPN) for me.The normal version should be there too, you just need to dig through the menu a bit.Stupid YouTubeTV recorded the "kids" version of the Abu Dhabi GP this morning on ESPNU instead of the normal race on ESPN.
Eephus
Footballguy
Stupid YouTubeTV recorded the "kids" version of the Abu Dhabi GP this morning on ESPNU instead of the normal race on ESPN.
I had no idea this existed. I watched a few minutes out of curiosity but it seemed half baked compared to the Nickelodeon and Toy Story NFL broadcasts.
The Gator
Footballguy
It seems that unless they get serious about investing resources into the team, that kind of move is shuffling deck chairs on the Titanic.
Skipdog77
Footballguy
Please SkySports, put Guenther on the race broadcast team.
Have him take over the take over the grid walk from Martin Brundle. That would be gold.
TennesseeJed
Footballguy
I wonder if Andretti will be pushed in the direction of buying Haas, instead of introducing an 11th team to the grid.
Eephus
Footballguy
Gene Haas has always denied his team is up for sale. I don't think this front office shakeup changes that. Steiner is the face of the organization but Resta is the bigger loss. He was a highly respected engineer when he was with Ferrari and is a key liaison to Maranello who provides much of the technology to Haas.
Haas F1's business model of contracting manufacturing out makes it the least desirable acquisition target for Andretti. Their most valuable asset is the entry itself. Maybe this is good for Andretti and his backers because they won't have to pay for a redundant factory but it would also presumably lower the asking price.
TennesseeJed
Footballguy
Yeah, I guess I was thinking that the only thing Andretti really wants is a spot on the grid. So, if the F1 teams don't want to dilute the revenue, the only option would be to buy a spot, and then effectively create his own team - whether that included partnering with Ferrari or Cadillac.
Seems like Haas is hopelessly outdated - in terms of its own facilities, so maybe time to cash in, and let someone else make upgrades.
Eephus
Footballguy
Some content to watch until real racing starts again.
FE technology come a long way since the first gen cars when pit stops involved the driver jumping into another car to finish the race. I find the current product to be watchable although a lot of racing fans can't get past the high pitched sound of the electric power units. The PUs have massive torque but don't reach the top end speed of F1 or Indycar so most FE circuits are street circuits with short straights and lots of turns.
There are some excellent drivers who could hold their own in the F1 midfield. The racing is always balanced by energy conservation so you end up with close packs managing the pace like a bicycle peloton. The winning car often comes down to which of the leaders did the best job of conserving energy for the finish.
Eephus
Footballguy
F1 and FE race the same circuit at Monaco. The principality leaves the barriers up for both races in May. The FE pole time last year was 27 seconds slower than Verstappen's fastest qualifying lap.
FE laptimes are in the same ballpark as Formula 2 cars but the electrics would get smoked on the straights and then get stuck behind on the twisty bits.
FE laptimes are in the same ballpark as Formula 2 cars but the electrics would get smoked on the straights and then get stuck behind on the twisty bits.
The Gator
Footballguy
Max Radio snippets
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"What happened?"
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"I'm not even gonna say WTF happened."
"What happened?"
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Eephus
Footballguy
Pre-season news wrap
Leclerc signs a multi-year extension with Ferrari. Sainz' contract expires at the end of this season.
Alpha Tauri rebrands as Visa Cash App RB F1 Team, dethroning Stake F1 Team Kick Sauber as the dumbest team name of all-time. I guess we call them RBs now which won't be confusing at all
The Spanish GP will move to a temporary circuit near Madrid in 2026.
DTS season 6 drops on February 23rd.
Leclerc signs a multi-year extension with Ferrari. Sainz' contract expires at the end of this season.
Alpha Tauri rebrands as Visa Cash App RB F1 Team, dethroning Stake F1 Team Kick Sauber as the dumbest team name of all-time. I guess we call them RBs now which won't be confusing at all
The Spanish GP will move to a temporary circuit near Madrid in 2026.
DTS season 6 drops on February 23rd.
The Gator
Footballguy
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TennesseeJed
Footballguy
Lando Norris signs an extension at McLaren. Now signed through 2026
Skipdog77
Footballguy
That man looks good in papaya.
Eephus
Footballguy
Good for McLaren to lock down their young driver pairing although I'm unconvinced that the team is capable of putting a championship car beneath Norris and Piastri.
Leclerc and Norris were the two biggest variables in the 2025 silly season. I'm not happy about them both off the board before the 2024 cars turn a wheel but I guess continuity matters more than ever in F1.
Eephus
Footballguy
Formula 1 formally rejected the bid from Andretti/Cadillac to join the grid in 2025 or 2026. In their statement, they left some possibilities open for 2028 if GM becomes a power unit OEM but nothing definitive.
The rejection shouldn't be surprising to anyone who's been listening to the existing teams for the past two years but it's still disappointing and probably will be proven to be short-sighted.
The rejection shouldn't be surprising to anyone who's been listening to the existing teams for the past two years but it's still disappointing and probably will be proven to be short-sighted.
Lame.
TennesseeJed
Footballguy
Stunner.
Hamilton to Ferrari in 2025
Hamilton to Ferrari in 2025
TennesseeJed
Footballguy
I imagine one look at the W15 was enough to send Hamilton running in another direction. Still hope for a competitive season.
Now - I wonder about any break clauses in Lando's new deal with McLaren.
Now - I wonder about any break clauses in Lando's new deal with McLaren.
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
The 2023 season was devoid of drama in pretty much every respect, so I welcome the coming chaos. Gonna be a spectacular ####show. Albon to Mercedes seems like the obvious next domino, but who knows.
The early scuttlebutt was that Mercedes really liked their changes for 2024, but apparently the vibes weren't good enough for Hamilton.
The early scuttlebutt was that Mercedes really liked their changes for 2024, but apparently the vibes weren't good enough for Hamilton.
TennesseeJed
Footballguy
I wonder if Mercedes and Ferrari will swap drivers - this season.
It would probably suit all parties to make the cut now - Mercedes can take Sainz before deciding on a longer-term replacement for Hamilton.
Otherwise, I think Mercedes will be designing the W15 to suit Russells likes/demands - and that leaves Lewis in a lame-duck season with a car he probably won't like. More drama than the team needs.
Ferrari already get a bigger chunk of the pie, so they can fork over some cash and Sainz to get Hamilton released now.
I don't see Albon as a big enough name for Mercedes.
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
I wonder if Mercedes and Ferrari will swap drivers - this season.
It would probably suit all parties to make the cut now - Mercedes can take Sainz before deciding on a longer-term replacement for Hamilton.
Otherwise, I think Mercedes will be designing the W15 to suit Russells likes/demands - and that leaves Lewis in a lame-duck season with a car he probably won't like. More drama than the team needs.
Ferrari already get a bigger chunk of the pie, so they can fork over some cash and Sainz to get Hamilton released now.
I don't see Albon as a big enough name for Mercedes.
Great point about swapping now, although I assume Mercedes would be reluctant to swap early.
I haven't heard much in the rumor mill thanks to the death of Twitter, but what little I head about Mercedes 2024 car was positive. So weird.
Disagree on Albon, I think he got a lot of juice after last season. He's also incredibly marketable. Also I'm just not sure who else they'd get. Is there another Piastri on the way out there?
ETA: Just as I hit send on this, the Dead show playing on Youtube in the background in my office launched into Tennessee Jed. I had pretty much forgotten the thing was even playing. Weird
TennesseeJed
Footballguy
I am assuming they will go all out for Norris. He would be the most marketable driver, imo. And, I would not be shocked if his new extension did not include an out clause for certain teams.
As for swapping early - probably depends on what Mercedes think of Sainz - but this year is going to be an odd one for Mercedes if they make Russell the #1 driver, and Lewis is just going through the motions - and complaining every race if the car is not working for him. I just wonder if that is more of a headache than making the move now.
Certainly Mercedes will have marketing expectations involving Hamilton - and that is still a big factor, but if every race is a question about Lewis leaving at the end of the season - maybe too much distraction.
Also depends on how much advance notice Mercedes had about this move.
Eephus
Footballguy
The long-term guy to watch for Mercedes is Andrea Kimi Antonelli, a 17 year old Italian who has been projected as the next big thing since his days in karts. He's a member of the Mercedes junior driver program and is making a big jump to Formula 2 this year bypassing Formula 3 entirely.
If he impresses in F2, Antonelli could find himself in F1 in 2025 although Mercedes might try to place him at Williams for a year or two like they did with Russell. Another possibility for Mercedes in 2025 is Esteban Ocon. Toto Wolff has been Ocon's manager since he was a teenager. Mercedes could sign him to a short-term deal as a bridge to Antonelli.
Sainz has been linked to Audi when they complete their takeover of Sauber (Stake Kick Alfa Romeo whatever) in 2026. Sainz could run for whatever they're called in 2025 to bed in with the team before they're rebadged as Audi along with the new technical regulations in 2026.
A Hamilton/Sainz swap for this year seems extremely unlikely.
If he impresses in F2, Antonelli could find himself in F1 in 2025 although Mercedes might try to place him at Williams for a year or two like they did with Russell. Another possibility for Mercedes in 2025 is Esteban Ocon. Toto Wolff has been Ocon's manager since he was a teenager. Mercedes could sign him to a short-term deal as a bridge to Antonelli.
Sainz has been linked to Audi when they complete their takeover of Sauber (Stake Kick Alfa Romeo whatever) in 2026. Sainz could run for whatever they're called in 2025 to bed in with the team before they're rebadged as Audi along with the new technical regulations in 2026.
A Hamilton/Sainz swap for this year seems extremely unlikely.
QuizGuy66
Footballguy
The Gator
Footballguy
I just ordered a Tan Ferrari at lunch to celebrate
jb1020
Footballguy
So is Lewis still a viable driver and Mercedes has just lost a step the last 2-3 years? This just feels like the Knicks bringing in Lebron and giving him the largest contract ever tomorrow.
Or is this just a marketing deal, bring in the fans, sell the merch type deal?
Keep in mind I'm new here.
Or is this just a marketing deal, bring in the fans, sell the merch type deal?
Keep in mind I'm new here.
TennesseeJed
Footballguy
Its a little bit of both - imo.
Lewis is still a top driver, and Mercedes has lost ground under these new regulations. But, it's also about money. Lewis reportedly going to get $100M/year - which I think is almost double what Mercedes were paying.
Oh, and Ferrari market cap went up yesterday by $10B - partially on this news - so it seems like a good financial deal for everyone.
Wow. That feels a little like Beckham signing that MLS contract.
jb1020
Footballguy
Thats the better comparison. I didn't meant to compare Ferrari to the Knicks. That was low.
Eephus
Footballguy
There are some similarities around the marketing considerations but in terms of his on-track skills Hamilton is closer to Real Madrid Beckham than LA Beckham.
Ferrari is still the most important team in the sport with an unbroken lineage that goes back to its origins. They were winning championships long before the Stewart begat Mercedes and BAR begat Red Bull. It'll mean a little more if Lewis can win his eighth title in a red car.
That was the main point of the comparison. Hamilton isn't in his prime anymore even if he's still great. I wouldn't be surprised if he's the second best Ferrari driver next year.
Eephus
Footballguy
That'll be a fascinating sub-plot for next season (as Red Bull disappears in the distance). Leclerc may be the quickest driver on the grid but hasn't demonstrated he has the mentality of a champion. Lewis' arrival will ratchet up the pressure on #16.
Eephus
Footballguy
The source of that one is Peter Windsor who's been around the sport forever including as team principal for the abortive US F1 team that never turned a wheel. Maybe he's right this time but there's a reason why it's called the silly season.
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