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*****OFFICIAL FORMULA ONE GRAND PRIX THREAD***** (2 Viewers)
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The Gator
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Yeah, should lead to a great race tomorrow especially if the weather keeps up.
And oh man, Scharles really cannot do anything in the car since Monaco
TennesseeJed
Footballguy
Best F1 stat of the day:
Logan Sargeant has out-qualified Sergio Perez in 7 of 12 races this season.
Logan Sargeant has out-qualified Sergio Perez in 7 of 12 races this season.
The Gator
Footballguy
So in listening to a new to me F1 podcast, I was mind blown. Found out that the stewards who look at all the incidents are volunteers and not the same from race to race?
Wouldn't it help the consistency to have a set group making these calls instead of changing all the time from race to race?
Wouldn't it help the consistency to have a set group making these calls instead of changing all the time from race to race?
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QuizGuy66
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TennesseeJed
Footballguy
I think Gator was thinking more along the lines of rocking up to Vegas and holding his hand up to be a race steward.
The Gator
Footballguy
Also, yes.
TennesseeJed
Footballguy
Picturing Gator with a walkie-talkie: "Thats a Red Card to #18 on Aston Martin, and we are going to need a full safety car here so I can take a potty break, and grab some nacho tots!"
Eephus
Footballguy
I haven't watched the F2 race yet but Martin Brundle spoiled it during F1 qualifying. F2 and F3 invert the top ten qualifiers for the Saturday sprint. Antonelli qualified P10 so his win today was from the reverse grid pole which makes it a little less impressive.
Mercedes suddenly having a race winning car is an interesting twist to the silly season. I still think Antonelli gets the seat but the stakes for 2025 are a lot higher now.
QuizGuy66
Footballguy
Eephus
Footballguy
The panel of stewards change every race weekend but they all come out of a pool of certified officials. One is always an ex-F1 driver and I believe one comes from the hosting country.
Eephus
Footballguy
Ferrari is still Ferrari. It's good for Lewis' brand even if the team is struggling.
The Scuderia has really dropped the ball on updates this season. They're supposed to have a new package for Hungary but the last set was a regression.
He seems competitive enough that losing to his old team would bother him quite a bit, even if he is enjoying being part of the brand.
TennesseeJed
Footballguy
He is being paid enough money to afford therapy...
(but, yeah, I think he will regret it if the Mercedes resurgence is real)
Eephus
Footballguy
Lewis has never seemed like a guy who dwells on regret. He certainly got over Abu Dhabi 21 quicker than Wolff did. Hamilton timed his last jump from McLaren perfectly so maybe he thinks he's infallible.
Twelve seasons in Brackley is a long time. I think just wanting a change is a part of Lewis' decision. I hope Ferrari can put a competitive car under him
QuizGuy66
Footballguy
Eephus
Footballguy
Fixed
Eephus
Footballguy
Got around to watching the F2 race. There wasn't much to it. It was wet at the start so Antonelli took the lead from a rolling start behind the safety car. He opened a good gap while everybody else struggled in his spray. There was a stoppage and a couple of safety cars.
Antonelli nailed the restarts and stayed on the road unlike a lot of other drivers. He led flag to flag and was never challenged. He starts P10 on Sunday and hopefully we'll see him move up through the field.
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TennesseeJed
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Main race did not go so well - out in the first lap, looked like he was tagged from behind.
TennesseeJed
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Looks like rain currently at Silverstone - not sure how long it is supposed to last.
But, this could be a tasty start to the race - and I expect the top-6: Russell, Hamilton, Norris, Verstappen, Piastri and Hulkenberg to all fight for the lead in the first lap. I think all will be very aggressive - and that could create chaos.
Checo, starting from pitlane could actually be a beneficiary if there are issues into turn 1.
But, this could be a tasty start to the race - and I expect the top-6: Russell, Hamilton, Norris, Verstappen, Piastri and Hulkenberg to all fight for the lead in the first lap. I think all will be very aggressive - and that could create chaos.
Checo, starting from pitlane could actually be a beneficiary if there are issues into turn 1.
TennesseeJed
Footballguy
I just saw that Checo has 2 performance clauses in his contract - that could be tough to beat:
1. Be within 100 points of Max after Spa (3 races) - Checo is currently 119 points behind right now - meaning he would have to outpoint Max by 19 ...
2. Be with in 5 spots of Max in the drivers standings - he is currently 5th, but both Piastri and Russell are within 7 points.
The one saving grace for Checo so far has been the disappointment of Ricciardo at the baby bulls - but its hard to see Checo back after the summer break unless he turns in some stellar performances in these next 3 races.
1. Be within 100 points of Max after Spa (3 races) - Checo is currently 119 points behind right now - meaning he would have to outpoint Max by 19 ...
2. Be with in 5 spots of Max in the drivers standings - he is currently 5th, but both Piastri and Russell are within 7 points.
The one saving grace for Checo so far has been the disappointment of Ricciardo at the baby bulls - but its hard to see Checo back after the summer break unless he turns in some stellar performances in these next 3 races.
TennesseeJed
Footballguy
F1TV just showed a quick preview of the Brad Pitt F1 movie due out next summer. Looks like the racing scenes will be top notch - not sure about the plot.
Can RB just outright void the contract if those benchmarks are not met? Or is that tied to different levels of compensation? That's pretty rough if the former.
TennesseeJed
Footballguy
Mercedes and McLaren got the strategy wrong - should have gone with a split strategy on the inters.
TennesseeJed
Footballguy
I am sure that Red Bull can void the contract - rumors that Liam Lawson - their reserve driver - could be in if they cut Perez.
TennesseeJed
Footballguy
Hate that for George - has really put in a some good performances lately.
TennesseeJed
Footballguy
Sir Lewis Hamilton
TennesseeJed
Footballguy
Quite a good first half to the season. Mercedes and McLaren catching Red Bull in pace has been great for F1.
6 winners in 12 races. (Even if Max and Red Bull still have a huge lead)
6 winners in 12 races. (Even if Max and Red Bull still have a huge lead)
Eephus
Footballguy
If they're promoting Lawson for 2025, it would make sense for them to get him some races in the RB after the summer break.
Yuki maximized his race again this weekend and earned a point. I'd love to see him get a shot with the big team but Dr. Marko really likes Lawson.
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TennesseeJed
Footballguy
Hamilton set another record today - longest interval between 1st F1 win, and last F1 Win:
17 years, 27 days.
Passing Kimi Raikkonen who is 2nd at 15 years 6 months, 28 days.
17 years, 27 days.
Passing Kimi Raikkonen who is 2nd at 15 years 6 months, 28 days.
TennesseeJed
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TennesseeJed
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The Gator
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Eephus
Footballguy
Alonso is looking in vain for someone to hold his beer
The Gator
Footballguy
It's really fun to go back and listen to the team radios after a race. Watched Lewis' onboard from just before the last pit stop to the end, that was pretty great. Listening to Scharles get totally shafted by their strategy.
Bozzi: Rain incoming, two laps.
Charles: Ok, I want to be aggressive when to change.
*Pits for Inters*
Charles: Rain update?
Bozzi: It's like this for 3 laps, then rain
Charles: oh for ****s sake
Charles: This is too dry
Bozzi: Rain in 5 laps now
Bozzi: We will have to pit again for new inters when the rain hits
Makes sense why he stayed out so long on inters the first time. They kept leading him on.
Bozzi: Rain incoming, two laps.
Charles: Ok, I want to be aggressive when to change.
*Pits for Inters*
Charles: Rain update?
Bozzi: It's like this for 3 laps, then rain
Charles: oh for ****s sake
Charles: This is too dry
Bozzi: Rain in 5 laps now
Bozzi: We will have to pit again for new inters when the rain hits
Makes sense why he stayed out so long on inters the first time. They kept leading him on.
TennesseeJed
Footballguy
TennesseeJed
Footballguy
It’s looking more and more likely that Checo will be out after the summer break.
Red Bull will be making a decision on Checo's future over the summer break
Marko: "All Formula 1 contracts have exit clauses, most of them related to performance or let’s say for the top drivers. As I mentioned before, we will have an evaluation during the summer break and then we will make a decision"
Q: "If you let Checo go, is Liam Lawson, the next driver?"
Marko: "First we have to see. Lawson is testing at Silverstone on Thursday. And yeah, so two more races and there will be more outings with Lawson. There’s also Yuki Tsunoda who is doing very well."
Red Bull will be making a decision on Checo's future over the summer breakMarko: "All Formula 1 contracts have exit clauses, most of them related to performance or let’s say for the top drivers. As I mentioned before, we will have an evaluation during the summer break and then we will make a decision"
Q: "If you let Checo go, is Liam Lawson, the next driver?"
Marko: "First we have to see. Lawson is testing at Silverstone on Thursday. And yeah, so two more races and there will be more outings with Lawson. There’s also Yuki Tsunoda who is doing very well."
Eephus
Footballguy
There are corners of the Internet devoted to interpreting silly season signals emanating from Milton Keynes like it's the Soviet era Kremlin.
The general consensus is that Horner is solidly Team Checo. Ricciardo is a Horner guy as well. Dr. Marko is the chief advocate for Lawson (and Hadjar but he's not in the frame). Yuki was brought in to satisfy Honda and has no champion in upper management especially with Honda going away in 2026. The guy to watch longer term is 16 year old Arvid Lindblad who's in F3 this year. Red Bull was the team, not Mercedes, asking for the changes in the superlicense rules so Lindblad could get a test session.
Perez brings two sponsors on the car (Telcel and Inter.mx) from his long relationship with Mexican billionaire Carlos Slim. Latin America is also supposedly one of the biggest market for Red Bull energy drinks. No idea how this figures in but it's F1 so it probably does.
The general consensus is that Horner is solidly Team Checo. Ricciardo is a Horner guy as well. Dr. Marko is the chief advocate for Lawson (and Hadjar but he's not in the frame). Yuki was brought in to satisfy Honda and has no champion in upper management especially with Honda going away in 2026. The guy to watch longer term is 16 year old Arvid Lindblad who's in F3 this year. Red Bull was the team, not Mercedes, asking for the changes in the superlicense rules so Lindblad could get a test session.
Perez brings two sponsors on the car (Telcel and Inter.mx) from his long relationship with Mexican billionaire Carlos Slim. Latin America is also supposedly one of the biggest market for Red Bull energy drinks. No idea how this figures in but it's F1 so it probably does.
Eephus
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Biggest F1 news of the weekend was Ralf Schumacher coming out as a gay man.
That and some cool old cars going up the hill at Goodwood
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TennesseeJed
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I saw his post - looked very classy.Biggest F1 news of the weekend was Ralf Schumacher coming out as a gay man.
That and some cool old cars going up the hill at Goodwood
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The Gator
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Eephus
Footballguy
I've probably made this point previously upthread but I think the Hungaroring has been improved by DRS more than any other circuit. The back-to-back DRS zones in the first sector always produce some great side by side action which wasn't the case when Hungary first appeared on the calendar. Races there used to be very processional which made qualifying almost as important as at Monaco.
The Gator
Footballguy
Your last sentence is exactly what I heard on a podcast today. They called it Monaco 2.0 lol.
The Gator
Footballguy
Finished that 2021 race, it does seem that passing is difficult, but the wheel to wheel racing was pretty neat.
Hamilton getting 3rd after that terrible strategy at the begging was nice.
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