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*****OFFICIAL FORMULA ONE GRAND PRIX THREAD***** (1 Viewer)

Isn't this effectively what McLaren did last year in Hungary?

Last year, Norris came in first to the pits to protect against being undercut by Hamilton - and then Norris actually undercut Piastri. McLaren ordered Norris to swap positions - and he thought about if for several laps, before conceding the spot back to Piastri - a move that actually cost Norris in his race with Verstappen - which was still viable at the time.
 
Isn't this effectively what McLaren did last year in Hungary?

Last year, Norris came in first to the pits to protect against being undercut by Hamilton - and then Norris actually undercut Piastri. McLaren ordered Norris to swap positions - and he thought about if for several laps, before conceding the spot back to Piastri - a move that actually cost Norris in his race with Verstappen - which was still viable at the time.
That was their fault for calling in Norris first, people were calling them out for that at the time too. They swapped back because it was the pit wall's call that flipped the cars, not a racing issue. I'd count a slow pit stop a racing issue and it should have been let go imo
 
Max Verstappen (aka Franz Herrmann) is spending his off weekend racing GT cars at the Nordschleife.

He needs to first qualify for his driving permit. If he's successful racing a GT4 Porsche in Saturday's NLS7 race, he may upgrade to a GT3 Ferrari for NLS8 on Sunday. The four hour races are streaming on Nürburgring's YouTube channel.



ETA: At last, proper use for the German language YouTube summary text.
 
Pierre Gasly re-upped with Alpine through the 2028 season. He's been through it all in his years at Enstone so he knows what he's getting into. Alpine is the middest of the midfield teams; even if the Mercedes PU is the one to have next year, they'll still (probably) be behind McLaren, Merc and Williams.

I rate Gasly pretty highly and think he would win races in a top car. Red Bull dumped him too early and then went on to repeat their error with Albon.
 
Thread bump for Singapore. Intriguing grid with the McLarens going off third and fifth with Antonelli between them.
 
Surprised there were no comments from today.

Great race from Mercedes and Russell - not sure where the pace came from, but was nice to see.

Also, big move from Lando to jump Piastri - even if he could not also jump Verstappen. If I am being honest, not a great look from Piastri wanting team orders today after getting passed on lap 1.

Could make for some dicey moments in the final races - but they have to be careful not to take each other out, and open the door to Max to make an improbable comeback.

It is odd that McLaren's advantage has seemingly disappeared - I kind of assumed everyone is spending their development time and money on next year's cars - but perhaps McLaren went a little earlier than Red Bull or Mercedes, allowing for minor upgrades for those cars.
 
Surprised there were no comments from today.

Another crappy one stopper

I did laugh at one point when one of commentators mentioned how hard it was to pass - and I was thinking, they say that at every track now...


As far as the 1-stopper - it seems like that it was not that long ago that tire degradation was a serious concern - i.e. the degradation could lead to a flat tire, thus true management and pit-stops were more important. I wonder if the tires are too good now. Sure, degradation hurts the times, but I don't see the graining or blistering that we used to see. So, teams are willing to simply go a little slower to avoid a 20+ second pit stop.
 
Surprised there were no comments from today.

Another crappy one stopper

I did laugh at one point when one of commentators mentioned how hard it was to pass - and I was thinking, they say that at every track now...


As far as the 1-stopper - it seems like that it was not that long ago that tire degradation was a serious concern - i.e. the degradation could lead to a flat tire, thus true management and pit-stops were more important. I wonder if the tires are too good now. Sure, degradation hurts the times, but I don't see the graining or blistering that we used to see. So, teams are willing to simply go a little slower to avoid a 20+ second pit stop.

Stroll ran 38 laps on a set of softs and still was able to stay at the front of the train.
 
Also, big move from Lando to jump Piastri - even if he could not also jump Verstappen. If I am being honest, not a great look from Piastri wanting team orders today after getting passed on lap 1.
McLando was never going to make their #1 driver swap back even though he broke their own rules. If Piastri does that to Lando, imo, they make them swap.

Overall it was NOT a huge inchident, but because the McLaren pit wall keep sticking their nose into this title race it muddies everything.
 
Apple looking to announce acquisition of F1 streaming rights at the US Grand Prix.

Apple/F1 streaming deal coming soon?


If the agreement doesn't allow for F1.tv to be available in the states next season and beyond, looks like I won't be watching F1 anymore. Not getting Apple TV.
I have Apple TV - probably the best streaming service - in terms of quality - at least from our perspective. Rarely a bad show, albeit they don't have a lot of quantity.

But, I won't be happy to pay extra for F1 - which I assume they will do, similar to their MLS package.

I also really like F1TV - so I would hope to be able to keep that subscription, but if push came to shove, I would just use that money for Apple TV'1 F1 coverage.


If I recall correctly, unlike ESPN, Apple is not simply going to stream the Sky Broadcast, so that could be interesting to see how they build out a broadcast team, and ancillary programming similar to F1TV.
 
COTA this weekend which means we'll get pictures of drivers wearing cowboy hats. It's also a sprint weekend so there will be SQ on Friday afternoon and a busy day on Saturday.
 
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BREAKING: Apple TV has signed a 5-year deal with Formula 1 for its exclusive media rights in the US.

Here's what you need to know 👇

1. Apple TV is replacing ESPN as F1's exclusive broadcast partner in the United States. ESPN was most recently paying $90 million annually, with reports indicating that Apple TV will now pay $140 million per year (+55%).

2. Formula 1's US rights have skyrocketed over the last 7 years. F1 initially let ESPN broadcast its races for free in 2018. That then turned into a $5 million deal, then $75 million to $90 million, and now $140 million annually.

3. F1 TV will continue in the US. You will need an Apple TV account to access F1 TV, but if you already subscribe to both services, you will actually save money (because your Apple TV subscription will now work for both).

4. Apple TV will have broadcast all sessions — practice, qualifying, sprint races, etc. — every grand prix weekend.

5. Apple is still determining who will be on the broadcast and production team.

6. The production on Apple TV should be extremely high-quality, as Apple doesn't typically compress its video as much as others (and is usually willing to try new things, like unique camera angles, etc.).

7. All F1 content on Apple TV will be available in both English and Spanish, taking advantage of the ~42 million people who speak Spanish in the US.

8. Formula 1 is hoping that Apple's large customer base in the United States will offset the audience loss that traditionally comes with switching from cable to streaming (i.e., a paywall).

Similar to the company's partnership with MLS, Apple will send push notifications to iPhone users, integrate F1 content into its news app, create custom playlists in Apple Music, and allow users to follow each race live via a dedicated widget on the iPhone home screen.

9. Apple's Eddy Cue says that the success of the new F1 movie (with Brad Pitt) created a strong relationship with the sports leadership team, ultimately helping get the deal done.

The F1 movie was an Apple Original film and has surpassed $628 million at the global box office, making it the highest-grossing sports movie ever.

10. Apple will put some of the races in front of its paywall, allowing users to watch certain F1 content inside the Apple TV app without a subscription.

Ultimately, this deal makes a lot more sense for Apple TV than it would have for ESPN. The inability to sell commercials during races limited how much higher ESPN could have gone with its rights fee, but that problem goes away on a streaming service like Apple TV.

Apple also gets to follow its thesis of owning an entire league end-to-end, similar to its deal with MLS. If someone in the US wants to watch F1, every event will be available in one place, rather than having to switch between multiple cable channels and streaming services.

And while the $140 million price tag might seem high, it's important to remember that some brands pay $100 million per year just to sponsor individual Formula 1 teams.

Apple TV will make some of the money back by adding new subscribers and reducing churn through a more diversified offering. But F1's premium audience is the perfect marketing platform for Apple, and there are also a ton of other benefits when it comes to hospitality, etc.
 
3. F1 TV will continue in the US. You will need an Apple TV account to access F1 TV, but if you already subscribe to both services, you will actually save money (because your Apple TV subscription will now work for both).

This is the part that interests me - since I currently have both. But I am not clear if that covers the F1TV basic content - or the "premium" content - which I don't pay for.
 
My only hope is if T-Mobile does something like it does with MLB TV

-QG
Not sure exactly what you're referring to, but Apple TV is free with my T-Mobile subscription.
But does that cover the MLB Pass or MLS pass?

I believe F1 will be a separate charge of 9.99/mo on top of your Apple TV subscription.
That's not what the news articles I've seen say: "Apple TV will deliver all Formula 1 practice, qualifying, Sprint sessions and Grands Prix races to U.S. subscribers as part of their $12.99/month subscription." https://variety.com/2025/tv/news/apple-tv-formula-one-five-year-us-streaming-deal-1236554733/

"F1 TV Premium will continue to air in the U.S.; however, it’ll only be available through the Apple TV subscription (and will be free to those subscribers)." https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6723310/2025/10/17/f1-apple-tv-formula-one-streaming-rights/
 
My only hope is if T-Mobile does something like it does with MLB TV

-QG
Not sure exactly what you're referring to, but Apple TV is free with my T-Mobile subscription.
But does that cover the MLB Pass or MLS pass?

I believe F1 will be a separate charge of 9.99/mo on top of your Apple TV subscription.
That's not what the news articles I've seen say: "Apple TV will deliver all Formula 1 practice, qualifying, Sprint sessions and Grands Prix races to U.S. subscribers as part of their $12.99/month subscription." https://variety.com/2025/tv/news/apple-tv-formula-one-five-year-us-streaming-deal-1236554733/

"F1 TV Premium will continue to air in the U.S.; however, it’ll only be available through the Apple TV subscription (and will be free to those subscribers)." https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6723310/2025/10/17/f1-apple-tv-formula-one-streaming-rights/
Even better for me - I thought I had read they were going to have a $9.99/mo price point for F1.

I already have an apple subscription and an F1TV subscription, so it sounds like I just need to drop F1TV next year.
 
No point in speculating too much now; specifics will become clearer as we get into 2026. I'm hopeful of a T-Mobile offer like their MLB and MLS promotions but I'm sure I'll be watching F1 somehow when Melbourne rolls around.

Good riddance to ESPN who never did anything to grow the sport; they just rode the wave generated by DTS. I have ESPN+ as part of my daughter's Netflix bundle but the only things I ever watch on it are F2 and F3. If I'm going to have to pay, I'd rather get Apple's programming than division 2 college football and cornhole.
 
The hard tire is unraceable? No problem, everyone will still do one stoppers.

The championship battle has gotten very interesting as McLaren's long stint pace advantage has disappeared.
 
That Turn 1 at Austin is stupid IMO. And the rest of the course is too much zig-zag turning with little passing a la Monaco. Aside from the crashes, a pretty boring sprint and grand prix.
 
That Turn 1 at Austin is stupid IMO. And the rest of the course is too much zig-zag turning with little passing a la Monaco. Aside from the crashes, a pretty boring sprint and grand prix.

You can't really blame the track. COTA has hosted better races by F1 and other series. It has two legitimate passing zones along with a couple of others where you can surprise somebody. You'll want to go back to Austin after the siesta next weekend in Mexico City.

The problem this year is you have a group of cars with relatively similar performance (by F1 standards) that create lots of dirty air to make following difficult. Then Pirelli brings tires that can do a one stopper if managed properly so everybody cruises around at 90% to make that strategy work.

Hopefully the new technical regs will result in less aerowash. We also probably won't see the entire grid separated by 1.5 seconds anymore.
 
Interesting video about the 2026 regulations and their potential effect on overtaking.

 
That Turn 1 at Austin is stupid IMO. And the rest of the course is too much zig-zag turning with little passing a la Monaco. Aside from the crashes, a pretty boring sprint and grand prix.

You can't really blame the track. COTA has hosted better races by F1 and other series. It has two legitimate passing zones along with a couple of others where you can surprise somebody. You'll want to go back to Austin after the siesta next weekend in Mexico City.

The problem this year is you have a group of cars with relatively similar performance (by F1 standards) that create lots of dirty air to make following difficult. Then Pirelli brings tires that can do a one stopper if managed properly so everybody cruises around at 90% to make that strategy work.

Hopefully the new technical regs will result in less aerowash. We also probably won't see the entire grid separated by 1.5 seconds anymore.
You are definitely the F1 and moto-sport guru of the FFA.

Am I the only one that loves the drive through the Mexico City stadium?
 
A much better Mexican GP than I expected even though the winner wasn't in doubt after turn 1. It was still a tire strategy race without a lot of passing but the pace differences depending on tire age made things interesting. Congrats to all involved with Bearman's 4th place finish. It was an impressive drive for sure but the whole team executed flawlessly.

The fan footage of Lawson and the track marshals is really something.
 
A much better Mexican GP than I expected even though the winner wasn't in doubt after turn 1. It was still a tire strategy race without a lot of passing but the pace differences depending on tire age made things interesting. Congrats to all involved with Bearman's 4th place finish. It was an impressive drive for sure but the whole team executed flawlessly.

The fan footage of Lawson and the track marshals is really something.
It helps explain why they were so careful with Sainz at the end. Like you said, even without a bunch of passing it was a relatively fun race to watch.
 

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