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Official Great Works Draft (2 Viewers)

Work's a bee-yatch today ... too bad we didn't get rolling yesterday when I was playing Free Kick Expert all day :X

Here's my pick:

1.5 (5) - The Great Pyramid of Giza, Building/Structure

Great detail shot

Also known as the Pyramid of Khufu and the Pyramid of Cheops. It is the last of the ancient Seven Wonders of the World still standing. The pyramid remained the tallest man-made structure in the world for over 3,800 years.

The accuracy of the pyramid's workmanship is such that the four sides of the base have a mean error of only 58 millimeter in length, and 1 minute in angle from a perfect square. The base is horizontal and flat to within 15 mm. The sides of the square are closely aligned to the four cardinal compass points (within 3 minutes of arc based on true north not magnetic north). The completed design dimensions, as suggested by Petrie's survey and later studies, are estimated to have originally been 280 cubits in height by 440 cubits in length at each of the four sides of its base. These proportions equate to π/2 to an accuracy of better than 0.05% which some Egyptologists consider to have been the result of deliberate design proportion. Verner wrote, "We can conclude that although the ancient Egyptians could not precisely define the value of π, in practise they used it". Petrie, author of The Pyramids and Temples of Gizeh, who was the first accurate surveyor of Giza and the excavator and surveyor of the Pyramid of Meidum, concluded: "but these relations of areas and of circular ratio are so systematic that we should grant that they were in the builders design." Earlier in the chapter he wrote more specifically, that: "We conclude therefore that the approximation of 7 to 22 as the ratio of diameter to circumference was recognised"
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Doug B said:
Work's a bee-yatch today ... too bad we didn't get rolling yesterday when I was playing Free Kick Expert all day :porked:

Here's my pick:

1.5 (5) - The Great Pyramid of Giza, Building/Structure

Also known as the Pyramid of Khufu and the Pyramid of Cheops. It is the last of the ancient Seven Wonders of the World still standing. The pyramid remained the tallest man-made structure in the world for over 3,800 years.

The accuracy of the pyramid's workmanship is such that the four sides of the base have a mean error of only 58 millimeter in length, and 1 minute in angle from a perfect square. The base is horizontal and flat to within 15 mm. The sides of the square are closely aligned to the four cardinal compass points (within 3 minutes of arc based on true north not magnetic north). The completed design dimensions, as suggested by Petrie's survey and later studies, are estimated to have originally been 280 cubits in height by 440 cubits in length at each of the four sides of its base. These proportions equate to π/2 to an accuracy of better than 0.05% which some Egyptologists consider to have been the result of deliberate design proportion. Verner wrote, "We can conclude that although the ancient Egyptians could not precisely define the value of π, in practise they used it". Petrie, author of The Pyramids and Temples of Gizeh, who was the first accurate surveyor of Giza and the excavator and surveyor of the Pyramid of Meidum, concluded: "but these relations of areas and of circular ratio are so systematic that we should grant that they were in the builders design." Earlier in the chapter he wrote more specifically, that: "We conclude therefore that the approximation of 7 to 22 as the ratio of diameter to circumference was recognised"
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Top pick on list. Damn.1-0

 
My parents visited Egypt years ago. When they saw the pyramid in question, my mother asked the tour guide who built it. The answer given was, "Volunteers".

 
timschochet said:
Round One

1. Fennis US Constitution

2. Rodg12 The Sistene Chapel

3. Postradamus Mona Lisa

4. timschochet Beethoven's 5th Symphony
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Tim, the painting on the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel was selected. The Sistine Chapel as a structure is still available. Please update the 1st post to reflect this.TIA

 
timschochet said:
My parents visited Egypt years ago. When they saw the pyramid in question, my mother asked the tour guide who built it. The answer given was, "Volunteers".
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The prevailing theory is now is that pyramid-building was something like the New Deal of Ancient Egypt:
... most accept it was built by moving huge stones from a quarry, being only unable to agree whether they were dragged, lifted or even rolled into place. The Greeks believed that slave labour was used but modern Egyptologists accept that it was built by many tens of thousands of skilled workers. They camped near the pyramids and worked for a salary or as a form of paying taxes until the construction was completed. Their cemeteries were discovered in 1990 by archaeologists Zahi Hawass and Mark Lehner. Verner posited that the labor was organized into a hierarchy, consisting of two gangs of 100,000 men, divided into five zaa or phyle of 20,000 men each, which may have been further divided according to the skills of the workers.

One of the mysteries of the pyramid's construction is how they planned its construction. John Romer suggests that they used the same method that had been used for earlier and later constructions, laying out parts of the plan on the ground at a 1 to 1 scale. He writes that "such a working diagram would also serve to generate the architecture of the pyramid with a precision unmatched by any other means." He devotes a chapter of his book to the physical evidence that there was such a plan.
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Doug B said:
timschochet said:
My parents visited Egypt years ago. When they saw the pyramid in question, my mother asked the tour guide who built it. The answer given was, "Volunteers".
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The prevailing theory is now is that pyramid-building was something like the New Deal of Ancient Egypt:
... most accept it was built by moving huge stones from a quarry, being only unable to agree whether they were dragged, lifted or even rolled into place. The Greeks believed that slave labour was used but modern Egyptologists accept that it was built by many tens of thousands of skilled workers. They camped near the pyramids and worked for a salary or as a form of paying taxes until the construction was completed. Their cemeteries were discovered in 1990 by archaeologists Zahi Hawass and Mark Lehner. Verner posited that the labor was organized into a hierarchy, consisting of two gangs of 100,000 men, divided into five zaa or phyle of 20,000 men each, which may have been further divided according to the skills of the workers.

One of the mysteries of the pyramid's construction is how they planned its construction. John Romer suggests that they used the same method that had been used for earlier and later constructions, laying out parts of the plan on the ground at a 1 to 1 scale. He writes that "such a working diagram would also serve to generate the architecture of the pyramid with a precision unmatched by any other means." He devotes a chapter of his book to the physical evidence that there was such a plan.
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I thought the prevailing theory was space aliens built it. :lol:
 
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timschochet -

I need clarification on attribution before I make my first pick (I'm on deck).

Sent you a PM; post the answer here.

To avoid spotlighting, I didn't want to ask it directly in the thread before we clarify.

TIA

 
Sorry to keep people waiting. Gotta finish some work before I tackle this mammoth, and I'm still unsure as to what my first pick will be. Got some planning to do.

 
Sorry no trades. It was acceptable before I completed the first two posts; now it's just too much work.

Scott Norwood, I will make the change when I get to it.

Will be gone most of the day, update tonight.

BobbyLayne sent me a question about attribution for philosophical/political ideas, which I think should be clarified here. I wrote in the rules that you do not need to attribute the idea to one person, but you do need to give a place and time. A broad idea like "freedom" has no place or time attached to it and is therefore ineligible. BL was concerned about other ideas which could have their roots in several different places and times. This is a tough one. All I can say is that so long as you give what YOU believe is the right place and time, the pick will be accepted. How it's judged later will probably be based in part on the accuracy of your statement. (for those who followed the WGD, see higgins' drafting of a "supposed" architect of a famous building.) Hope this helps somewhat.

 
Abrantes said:
Sorry to keep people waiting. Gotta finish some work before I tackle this mammoth, and I'm still unsure as to what my first pick will be. Got some planning to do.
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It's a walkup start, no clock for two more days.Take your time, pard, no worries.
 
timschochet said:
Sorry no trades. It was acceptable before I completed the first two posts; now it's just too much work.Scott Norwood, I will make the change when I get to it.Will be gone most of the day, update tonight.BobbyLayne sent me a question about attribution for philosophical/political ideas, which I think should be clarified here. I wrote in the rules that you do not need to attribute the idea to one person, but you do need to give a place and time. A broad idea like "freedom" has no place or time attached to it and is therefore ineligible. BL was concerned about other ideas which could have their roots in several different places and times. This is a tough one. All I can say is that so long as you give what YOU believe is the right place and time, the pick will be accepted. How it's judged later will probably be based in part on the accuracy of your statement. (for those who followed the WGD, see higgins' drafting of a "supposed" architect of a famous building.) Hope this helps somewhat.
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No trades? What if I trade you my 2nd round pick for the ability to make trades?
 
Thank god I"m not still at 1.4... phew.

Only just finding this thread and finally kinda caught up- I'll have to see where I'm drafting and what the final cats are.

Can't really argue the picks so far... I'm not a huge fan of the paintings selected. I know- blasphemous for the Sistine Chapel... it just didn't do a lot for me in person, but can't argue it's historical impact/significance.

 
:cry:

I look forward to this being a great draft. I would have taken part, but decided real life was more important. I'm happy to judge the Scientific Discovery category though.

 
Doug B said:
Here's my pick:

1.5 (5) - The Great Pyramid of Giza, Building/Structure
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soooo glad you picked this - didnt want to go this way with my 1st rder, but woulda had to if it had lasted. ive been to the site of all the Seven Ancient Wonders except Babylon & my guide at Giza told us that backinaday they were smooth as glass with limestone which has since fallen away & legend had it they were blinding to look at then. the Great Pyramids & a mass balloon ascension from the ground are the only things i've experienced (well, maybe Donna D'Agostino too) which i cannot capture with words.
 
El Floppo said:
Thank god I"m not still at 1.4... phew. Only just finding this thread and finally kinda caught up- I'll have to see where I'm drafting and what the final cats are.Can't really argue the picks so far... I'm not a huge fan of the paintings selected. I know- blasphemous for the Sistine Chapel... it just didn't do a lot for me in person, but can't argue it's historical impact/significance.
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I'm not a fan of the Mona Lisa, but the Sistine Chapel?!?! What is the matter with you? :coffee: I've spent hours in that room, and I'm not the least bit religious. It's just astounding.Giza was a great pick. :unsure:
 
wikkidpissah said:
Doug B said:
Here's my pick:

1.5 (5) - The Great Pyramid of Giza, Building/Structure
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soooo glad you picked this - didnt want to go this way with my 1st rder, but woulda had to if it had lasted. ive been to the site of all the Seven Ancient Wonders except Babylon & my guide at Giza told us that backinaday they were smooth as glass with limestone which has since fallen away & legend had it they were blinding to look at then. the Great Pyramids & a mass balloon ascension from the ground are the only things i've experienced (well, maybe Donna D'Agostino too) which i cannot capture with words.
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Wikkidpedia ™
 
krista4 said:
El Floppo said:
Thank god I"m not still at 1.4... phew. Only just finding this thread and finally kinda caught up- I'll have to see where I'm drafting and what the final cats are.Can't really argue the picks so far... I'm not a huge fan of the paintings selected. I know- blasphemous for the Sistine Chapel... it just didn't do a lot for me in person, but can't argue it's historical impact/significance.
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I'm not a fan of the Mona Lisa, but the Sistine Chapel?!?! What is the matter with you? :) I've spent hours in that room, and I'm not the least bit religious. It's just astounding.Giza was a great pick. :goodposting:
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it's ok, I guess. ;) agree that Giza is a great pick. Like WP, I probably would've gone with that first if it fell to me- even though I've never had an orgy in a balloon race before.
 
krista4 said:
El Floppo said:
Thank god I"m not still at 1.4... phew.

Only just finding this thread and finally kinda caught up- I'll have to see where I'm drafting and what the final cats are.

Can't really argue the picks so far... I'm not a huge fan of the paintings selected. I know- blasphemous for the Sistine Chapel... it just didn't do a lot for me in person, but can't argue it's historical impact/significance.
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I'm not a fan of the Mona Lisa, but the Sistine Chapel?!?! What is the matter with you? :) I've spent hours in that room, and I'm not the least bit religious. It's just astounding.Giza was a great pick. :)
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:excited: :wub:
 
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