Official Great Works Draft (3 Viewers)

[Genedoc]

I'm up in 4, but out for awhile.Anyone gonna be around?

I'll be generally around until 5ish Central but then out the rest of the night.

I'll send it your way (if I can freakin' decide! )Please pass it along if my pick hasn't come up when you leave.Thanks!

Sounds good.As far as voting/declaring a "winner", I'd vote for either (1) not doing it at all, or (2) just having the people who participated in the draft as the voters. I just don't see the FFA as a whole taking the time really to think about teams of 60, and we know that there were shenanigans just about every step of the way in the WGD voting. Would rather just see the 20 votes from the drafters decide this, if at all.

I want no part of voting on this for the FFA as a whole. Judges and/or fellow drafters are OK.

 

[timschochet]

My list shows El Floppo still owes us a 12th round pick. Is this correct?

Also, I don't mind an FFA voting as we've done before, but I would like to come up with an anonymous way to do it. (Otherwise, I'm pretty sure that me and a few others will get voted down the first time we try, no matter how good our teams are.) I'm thinking that once the teams are ranked 1-20, then we have playoffs simply as "Team 8 vs. Team 10" etc. The only problem is this will fail the minute somebody decides to post which teams they are. If that happens, I propose we simply call it off rather than proceed with a farce. Thoughts?

 

[Mister CIA]

I'm up in 4, but out for awhile.Anyone gonna be around?

I'll be generally around until 5ish Central but then out the rest of the night.

I'll send it your way (if I can freakin' decide! )Please pass it along if my pick hasn't come up when you leave.Thanks!

Sounds good.As far as voting/declaring a "winner", I'd vote for either (1) not doing it at all, or (2) just having the people who participated in the draft as the voters. I just don't see the FFA as a whole taking the time really to think about teams of 60, and we know that there were shenanigans just about every step of the way in the WGD voting. Would rather just see the 20 votes from the drafters decide this, if at all.

Tie and aliai - I've got two-fifths of a limerick.

 

[timschochet]

The other thing we could do is, as suggested, have a playoff limited to voters and judges, or have a playoff in which there is no poll but each person had to come in here and vote for the team. I actually think the last suggestion might be the best...

 

[krista4]

The other thing we could do is, as suggested, have a playoff limited to voters and judges, or have a playoff in which there is no poll but each person had to come in here and vote for the team. I actually think the last suggestion might be the best...

I don't think the latter works because it doesn't stop the alias voting. It just means someone will come in and say "I vote for x"--we don't know who they are and the vote is counted, but they are simply an alias.Posting anonymously doesn't work either IMO; all someone has to do is look at the thread to see for whom they're voting.

 

[timschochet]

Actually, the more I think about it, let's just leave it up to the judges this time. That's what they're here for, right? We could make it special when the time comes by having an order of each judge, and keeping a running tally, so as to follow who's ahead. Isn't this the best and fairest method, free of shenanigans?

My other reasoning is this: it's a lot of work to rank 60, 80, or 100 picks. The judges deserve more for this effort than simply affecting rankings. They deserve to choose who the winners are going to be much more than some random vote. I should never have done that in the first place, but too late now. With this draft, let's do it this way- leave it to the judges.

Who agrees with me? (This is decided by consensus.)

 

[krista4]

Actually, the more I think about it, let's just leave it up to the judges this time. That's what they're here for, right? We could make it special when the time comes by having an order of each judge, and keeping a running tally, so as to follow who's ahead. Isn't this the best and fairest method, free of shenanigans?My other reasoning is this: it's a lot of work to rank 60, 80, or 100 picks. The judges deserve more for this effort than simply affecting rankings. They deserve to choose who the winners are going to be much more than some random vote. I should never have done that in the first place, but too late now. With this draft, let's do it this way- leave it to the judges.Who agrees with me? (This is decided by consensus.)

My 1/2 vote is fine with that.

 

[timschochet]

Actually, the more I think about it, let's just leave it up to the judges this time. That's what they're here for, right? We could make it special when the time comes by having an order of each judge, and keeping a running tally, so as to follow who's ahead. Isn't this the best and fairest method, free of shenanigans?My other reasoning is this: it's a lot of work to rank 60, 80, or 100 picks. The judges deserve more for this effort than simply affecting rankings. They deserve to choose who the winners are going to be much more than some random vote. I should never have done that in the first place, but too late now. With this draft, let's do it this way- leave it to the judges.Who agrees with me? (This is decided by consensus.)

After the way you berated me in the WGD, I am shocked you'd think to rely on the judges. You hated the fact the I had a different opinion than you and I think you'd be the first person to cry foul if someone didn't vote the way you think they should.

I was unfair to you in the WGD, and if you recall, I apologized for it. You accepted the apology, so I hope that means you accept the fact that I could change my mind about such things. As it turned out, there were other judges in the WGD that I disagreed with even more than you, especially Gigantomachia. I felt that if he was going to have the criteria he ended up with, he should have stated it from the beginning, instead of praising the Socrates and King Solomon picks, and then putting them at the bottom. To me that was total chicken####. I didn't like the self-serving thing that Yankee did either, and hopefully that will be corrected this time.So I'm sure there will be differences again, and some judges will piss me off and piss others off. So long as they are honest in the evaluations, we shouldn;t complain, though. Because in the end, I think it's a superior method than FFA voting, which has turned out to be a sham.

 

[TidesofWar]

Actually, the more I think about it, let's just leave it up to the judges this time. That's what they're here for, right? We could make it special when the time comes by having an order of each judge, and keeping a running tally, so as to follow who's ahead. Isn't this the best and fairest method, free of shenanigans?My other reasoning is this: it's a lot of work to rank 60, 80, or 100 picks. The judges deserve more for this effort than simply affecting rankings. They deserve to choose who the winners are going to be much more than some random vote. I should never have done that in the first place, but too late now. With this draft, let's do it this way- leave it to the judges.Who agrees with me? (This is decided by consensus.)

I tend to agree - but it is a lot of work.I also think, that no matter how much they try to be objective, judges have a built-in personal preference order that will play a factor. In other words, its like trying to pick someone's favorite color, or drawing from a deck with the High Card the winner. Is there a consideration for trying to build to a theme, as Yankee23 is obviously trying to do?

 

[wikkidpissah]

once again entering my preference for vote by PM. tim or BL or Comrade Thunder or any trustworthy member receive them under promise of anonymity &, if vets like these dont know the ID of the voter, it dont count. a little cumbersome, but i think it keeps Vote Club out of it, yet gives forum regs who've been reading along a voice.

 

[Tirnan]

I trust the judges. At most open it to votes within the drafting pool.

Mainly Im here to learn a few new things and enjoy the process.

 

[TidesofWar]

I met Nick Saban again last night - Can I get a "Roll Tide?"

[lsualum]

Wait until he leaves the Tide to coach the Dallas Cowboys in 2010.

[/lsualum]

There is a deep hatred for Nick Saban in East Lansing.There is a deep hatred for Nick Saban in Baton Rouge.

There is a deep hatred for Nick Saban in Miami.

There is a deep love for Nick Saban in Tuscaloosa.

How many years left on the contract?

Oh never mind, that's irrelevant.

The hate for Coach Saban in Baton Rouge is childish and irrational. The success they have had under Miles tracks back to the foundation Saban built.Coach Saban was not happy in the NFL, made some bad decisions, and the people who hate him for leaving would have hated him for staying after the next year, and likely chasing him into The Everglades.

Why the hate in East Lansing - because he took a better job?? Can you really blame anyone for getting out of EL?

It is What Is

 

[TidesofWar]

Actually, the more I think about it, let's just leave it up to the judges this time. That's what they're here for, right? We could make it special when the time comes by having an order of each judge, and keeping a running tally, so as to follow who's ahead. Isn't this the best and fairest method, free of shenanigans?My other reasoning is this: it's a lot of work to rank 60, 80, or 100 picks. The judges deserve more for this effort than simply affecting rankings. They deserve to choose who the winners are going to be much more than some random vote. I should never have done that in the first place, but too late now. With this draft, let's do it this way- leave it to the judges.Who agrees with me? (This is decided by consensus.)

After the way you berated me in the WGD, I am shocked you'd think to rely on the judges. You hated the fact the I had a different opinion than you and I think you'd be the first person to cry foul if someone didn't vote the way you think they should.

I was unfair to you in the WGD, and if you recall, I apologized for it. You accepted the apology, so I hope that means you accept the fact that I could change my mind about such things. As it turned out, there were other judges in the WGD that I disagreed with even more than you, especially Gigantomachia. I felt that if he was going to have the criteria he ended up with, he should have stated it from the beginning, instead of praising the Socrates and King Solomon picks, and then putting them at the bottom. To me that was total chicken####. I didn't like the self-serving thing that Yankee did either, and hopefully that will be corrected this time.

Guess that means I should hope for Phantom of The Opera to fly under the radar and eek out a "2"

 

[TidesofWar]

I trust the judges. At most open it to votes within the drafting pool.Mainly Im here to learn a few new things and enjoy the process.

 

[El Floppo]

My picks keep dropping... Meryl, Meathead, Joe D, and the relentlessness of yesterday's onslaught on my <fuzzy> mental draft board.

Since I'm a follower, I'm going to stay wiht the Performances Cat and take the first one that jumped to mind when I saw the category. It's an obvious "look at me, I'm ACTING" performance from our generation's greatest "look at me, I'm ACTING" actor. But no matter- his ability to transform himself physically and emotionally (and beyond the obvious physicality, there was a ton of inner-dynamics constantly at work- at least the way I see it. Plus, the character portrayed was a bit of schmuck despite or because his disabilities- and this guy nailed it.

12.10 Acting Performance- Daniel Day Lewis, My Left Foot

eta: obviously my makeup pick

 

[krista4]

My picks keep dropping... Meryl, Meathead, Joe D, and the relentlessness of yesterday's onslaught on my <fuzzy> mental draft board.

Since I'm a follower, I'm going to stay wiht the Performances Cat and take the first one that jumped to mind when I saw the category. It's an obvious "look at me, I'm ACTING" performance from our generation's greatest "look at me, I'm ACTING" actor. But no matter- his ability to transform himself physically and emotionally (and beyond the obvious physicality, there was a ton of inner-dynamics constantly at work- at least the way I see it. Plus, the character portrayed was a bit of schmuck despite or because his disabilities- and this guy nailed it.

12.10 Acting Performance- Daniel Day Lewis, My Left Foot

Was on my short, short, short list.

 

[El Floppo]

I trust the judges. At most open it to votes within the drafting pool.Mainly Im here to learn a few new things and enjoy the process.

Ditto- judges or judges + drafters. Maybe judges+drafters with an edge somehow given to the judge.:

 

[El Floppo]

My picks keep dropping... Meryl, Meathead, Joe D, and the relentlessness of yesterday's onslaught on my <fuzzy> mental draft board.

Since I'm a follower, I'm going to stay wiht the Performances Cat and take the first one that jumped to mind when I saw the category. It's an obvious "look at me, I'm ACTING" performance from our generation's greatest "look at me, I'm ACTING" actor. But no matter- his ability to transform himself physically and emotionally (and beyond the obvious physicality, there was a ton of inner-dynamics constantly at work- at least the way I see it. Plus, the character portrayed was a bit of schmuck despite or because his disabilities- and this guy nailed it.

12.10 Acting Performance- Daniel Day Lewis, My Left Foot

Was on my short, short, short list.

I can't imagine the other performance Im looking at will make it back to me... or if it does, that I'll remember it.

 

[El Floppo]

once again entering my preference for vote by PM. tim or BL or Comrade Thunder or any trustworthy member receive them under promise of anonymity &, if vets like these dont know the ID of the voter, it dont count. a little cumbersome, but i think it keeps Vote Club out of it, yet gives forum regs who've been reading along a voice.

Or that.

 

[El Floppo]

13.06 Joseph Heller's Catch-22 (Novel)

I'll just make the pick now to move the draft along, but I'll be back for an actual write-up. Funny as hell, and although I got sniped on a couple of novels, I'm not at all upset at having this as my first Novel selection.

Plus it spawned one of the most overused catch-phrases of the last 50 years.Solid pick and yet another one scratched off furiously from my mental draft lists.

 

[thatguy]

The other thing we could do is, as suggested, have a playoff limited to voters and judges, or have a playoff in which there is no poll but each person had to come in here and vote for the team. I actually think the last suggestion might be the best...

I don't think the latter works because it doesn't stop the alias voting. It just means someone will come in and say "I vote for x"--we don't know who they are and the vote is counted, but they are simply an alias.Posting anonymously doesn't work either IMO; all someone has to do is look at the thread to see for whom they're voting.

 

[thatguy]

Album - Abbey Road by The Beatles

My favorite Beatles album and one of the best Rock albums ever created IMO. Glad to get it at this point in the draft, even if it comes at the cost of filling of some of the more important categories.



Track listing

1. "Come Together" Lennon 4:20

2. "Something" (Harrison) Harrison 3:03

3. "Maxwell's Silver Hammer" McCartney 3:27

4. "Oh! Darling" McCartney 3:33

5. "Octopus's Garden" (Richard Starkey) Starr 2:51

6. "I Want You (She's So Heavy)" Lennon 7:47

7. "Here Comes the Sun" (Harrison) Harrison 3:05

8. "Because" Lennon, McCartney, Harrison 2:45

9. "You Never Give Me Your Money" McCartney 4:02

10. "Sun King" Lennon 2:26

11. "Mean Mr. Mustard" Lennon 1:06

12. "Polythene Pam" Lennon 1:12

13. "She Came in Through the Bathroom Window" McCartney 1:57

14. "Golden Slumbers" McCartney 1:31

15. "Carry That Weight" Lennon, McCartney, Harrison, Starr 1:36

16. "The End" McCartney 2:05

17. "Her Majesty" McCartney 0:23

 

[Postradamus]

who the hell is up?

I'm

EDIT: K here's where we are I think

11. El Floppo

12. Mister CIA

13. Uncle Humuna

14. Misfit Blondes

15. Bob Lee Swagger

16. Scott Norwood

17. DC Thunder

18. Genedoc

19. Tirnan

20. Yankee23 Fan

Round Fourteen

1. Yankee23 Fan

2. Tirnan

3. Genedoc

4. DC Thunder

5. Scott Norwood

6. Bob Lee Swagger

7. Misfit Blondes

8. Uncle Humuna

9. Mister CIA

10. El Floppo

11. thatguy

12. wikkidpissah

13. Tides of War

14. BobbyLayne

15. Abrantes

16. DougB

17. timschochet

18. Postradamus

19. Rodg12

20. Krista4

 

[El Floppo]

Yeah- I'm up at 13.11... forthcoming.

 

[mad sweeney]

My picks keep dropping... Meryl, Meathead, Joe D, and the relentlessness of yesterday's onslaught on my <fuzzy> mental draft board.

Since I'm a follower, I'm going to stay wiht the Performances Cat and take the first one that jumped to mind when I saw the category. It's an obvious "look at me, I'm ACTING" performance from our generation's greatest "look at me, I'm ACTING" actor. But no matter- his ability to transform himself physically and emotionally (and beyond the obvious physicality, there was a ton of inner-dynamics constantly at work- at least the way I see it. Plus, the character portrayed was a bit of schmuck despite or because his disabilities- and this guy nailed it.

12.10 Acting Performance- Daniel Day Lewis, My Left Foot

eta: obviously my makeup pick

Gee, however will Sweeney rate an un####ingbelievable performance of an Irish poet? Hmmmm...

 

[Uncle Humuna]

Hey Krista.

I'm back.

Don't pick for me.

I'm changing my pick!

tia

uh

 

[timschochet]

Abbey Road is a great pick and on my very short list. IMO, it is the best Beatles album, though this is certainly subjective. My personal rankings of Beatles' Albums:

1. Abbey Road

2. Not yet drafted

3. The White Album

4. Not yet drafted

5. Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band

6-10. Not yet drafted.

I can understand, however, if WP ranks Sgt. Pepper a little higher because of it's profound influence. It will be very interesting to see how he does this.

 

[TidesofWar]

Abbey Road is a great pick and on my very short list. IMO, it is the best Beatles album, though this is certainly subjective. My personal rankings of Beatles' Albums:

1. Abbey Road

2. Not yet drafted

3. The White Album

4. Not yet drafted

5. Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band

6-10. Not yet drafted.

I can understand, however, if WP ranks Sgt. Pepper a little higher because of it's profound influence. It will be very interesting to see how he does this.

I can understand if if he ranks SPLHCB numero uno

 

[El Floppo]

Gotta run out with the kid... writeup later- suffice to say I'm suprised this wasn't the first Dickens (although I liked WP's pick), and that it's still here after some of the others chosen.

13.11- Novel- Great Expectations, Charles Dickens

 

[TidesofWar]

Gotta run out with the kid... writeup later- suffice to say I'm suprised this wasn't the first Dickens (although I liked WP's pick), and that it's still here after some of the others chosen.

13.11- Novel- Great Expectations, Charles Dickens

Good Call - does not fit the thematic approach I am attempting, but would have taken it anyway had it dropped a few more rounds.

 

[Mister CIA]

Returning to the run on actors ...

13.12 - Jack Nicholson as R.P. McMurphy in One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. Acting performance.

It's been about 15-20 years since I watched this movie. Oh, things to do.

 

[flysack]

My thoughts on declaring a winner are this -

We feed each team's roster into a computer which will then use an incredibly complex formula (which nobody understands) to rank each team from top to bottom. The top two teams then have a vote off, while rest of the top 10 bribe Tim with money, endorsements, protection, cheerleader virgins, etc. for the 6 remaining playoff spots.

 

[Uncle Humuna]

13.13 Nimphee - Claude Monet (Painting)

 

[flysack]

Returning to the run on actors ...

13.12 - Jack Nicholson as R.P. McMurphy in One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. Acting performance.

It's been about 15-20 years since I watched this movie. Oh, things to do.

Nice pick. Team BobbyLayne™ almost picked this in round 12, but went with Deniro in Taxi Driver instead.

 

[wikkidpissah]

Returning to the run on actors ...

13.12 - Jack Nicholson as R.P. McMurphy in One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. Acting performance.

It's been about 15-20 years since I watched this movie. Oh, things to do.

dang - thought this'd last til my 2nd actor pick....

 

[flysack]

13.13 Nimphee - Claude Monet (Painting)

Meh.1. I like Banksy's version better (just kidding).

2. Not my favorite Monet.

 

[Uncle Humuna]

13.13 Nimphee - Claude Monet (Painting)

Meh.1. I like Banksy's version better (just kidding).

2. Not my favorite Monet.

There's not much of his that I don't like.My favorite painter by far.

Would gladly take any of his works . . .

 

[timschochet]

My thoughts on declaring a winner are this -We feed each team's roster into a computer which will then use an incredibly complex formula (which nobody understands) to rank each team from top to bottom. The top two teams then have a vote off, while rest of the top 10 bribe Tim with money, endorsements, protection, cheerleader virgins, etc. for the 6 remaining playoff spots.

I am totally down for this.

 

[flysack]

My thoughts on declaring a winner are this -We feed each team's roster into a computer which will then use an incredibly complex formula (which nobody understands) to rank each team from top to bottom. The top two teams then have a vote off, while rest of the top 10 bribe Tim with money, endorsements, protection, cheerleader virgins, etc. for the 6 remaining playoff spots.

I am totally down for this.

 

[Mister CIA]

Returning to the run on actors ...

13.12 - Jack Nicholson as R.P. McMurphy in One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. Acting performance.

It's been about 15-20 years since I watched this movie. Oh, things to do.

Nice pick. Team BobbyLayne™ almost picked this in round 12, but went with Deniro in Taxi Driver instead.

For all its cheesiness, seems that the 70's produced a disproportionally high number of the all-time great acting performances. 4 of the top 11 picks if I counted properly, but several more to come I'm sure.

 

[Mister CIA]

Returning to the run on actors ...

13.12 - Jack Nicholson as R.P. McMurphy in One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. Acting performance.

It's been about 15-20 years since I watched this movie. Oh, things to do.

dang - thought this'd last til my 2nd actor pick....

I nearly went with another film in which Jack starred (one of his slightly less recognized performances).

 

[Tirnan]

13.13 Nimphee - Claude Monet (Painting)

I hate you I hate you, I hate you. Die in a fire! In all seriousness, heck of a pick Uncle H. I was actually thinking it may make it back to me.

/edit and this is one of my favorite Monet works.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Returning to the run on actors ...

13.12 - Jack Nicholson as R.P. McMurphy in One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. Acting performance.

It's been about 15-20 years since I watched this movie. Oh, things to do.

Nice pick. Team BobbyLayne™ almost picked this in round 12, but went with Deniro in Taxi Driver instead.

For all its cheesiness, seems that the 70's produced a disproportionally high number of the all-time great acting performances. 4 of the top 11 picks if I counted properly, but several more to come I'm sure.

I agree; between Patton and Tax Driver (1970-76) there are a good half dozen individual male performances that might end up Top Ten. Which is kind of wacky...it's not like we think of the early 70s as a golden age of movies.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Returning to the run on actors ...

13.12 - Jack Nicholson as R.P. McMurphy in One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. Acting performance.

It's been about 15-20 years since I watched this movie. Oh, things to do.

dang - thought this'd last til my 2nd actor pick....

I nearly went with another film in which Jack starred (one of his slightly less recognized performances).

You want me to hold the chicken?

 

[mad sweeney]

Returning to the run on actors ...

13.12 - Jack Nicholson as R.P. McMurphy in One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. Acting performance.

It's been about 15-20 years since I watched this movie. Oh, things to do.

Nice pick. Team BobbyLayne™ almost picked this in round 12, but went with Deniro in Taxi Driver instead.

For all its cheesiness, seems that the 70's produced a disproportionally high number of the all-time great acting performances. 4 of the top 11 picks if I counted properly, but several more to come I'm sure.

None of those have been ranked yet though...One reason for that is that film and it's audience became more sophisticated as time went by. Watching 50s movies is still a lot more theater style than watching 70s movies. Overt actions portrayed emotions until the cameras crept closer and closer to the actor. While once a grand exclamation among semi-rigidly placed actors was needed to portray surprise, later in film's progression the same would be accomplished by a raised eyebrow or twitch of the mouth. So a lot of these 60s and 70s great performances are among the first of the classes of actors who, along with their director counterparts were moving the medium along while towing and educating the viewers in the process.

I think it's clear from my comments about Kane and Casablanca that I am great respecter of the past, and undoubtedly these shifts come from great artists whose performances paved the way for the next levels to be achieved, but don't be surprised if more recent performances make it very hard for me to necessarily put Brando or DeNiro at #1. It could be that many of these recent perfs are fresh in my head, but don't worry I am rewatching most via Netflix so the arguments for and against, including historical context, will all be taken into account.

 

[mad sweeney]

Returning to the run on actors ...

13.12 - Jack Nicholson as R.P. McMurphy in One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. Acting performance.

It's been about 15-20 years since I watched this movie. Oh, things to do.

Nice pick. Team BobbyLayne™ almost picked this in round 12, but went with Deniro in Taxi Driver instead.

For all its cheesiness, seems that the 70's produced a disproportionally high number of the all-time great acting performances. 4 of the top 11 picks if I counted properly, but several more to come I'm sure.

I agree; between Patton and Tax Driver (1970-76) there are a good half dozen individual male performances that might end up Top Ten. Which is kind of wacky...it's not like we think of the early 70s as a golden age of movies.

It's a very, very deep field.

 

[El Floppo]

Returning to the run on actors ...

13.12 - Jack Nicholson as R.P. McMurphy in One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. Acting performance.

It's been about 15-20 years since I watched this movie. Oh, things to do.

dang - thought this'd last til my 2nd actor pick....

I nearly went with another film in which Jack starred (one of his slightly less recognized performances).

First there was a run on Billy Shakes. Followed by a minirun on the Beatles and Brando- and I am positive we're going to be seeing a Jack-attack.

 

[BobbyLayne]

A couple great makeup picks not getting enough love:

12.10 El Floppo Acting Performance- Daniel Day Lewis, My Left Foot

One of the many criticisms of the Academy over the years is the easiest path to Best Actor is play someone with a disability. This one doesn't get lumped in with that, Lewis was amazing.

13.01 Fennis T.V. Show All In The Family

Great show that tackled a lot of societal issues. How many sitcoms spun off from this one? No doubt I'll leave a few off, but Sanford & Son, The Jefferson's and Maude were the three best ones. Norman Lear was dominant in that genre in the 70s.

Also loved the Merryl Streep pick; not sure if Sophie is the best choice, but only because she has turned in so many stellar performances. Nearly everyone who has or will get nominated in this category has had stinker roles. I don't know any actor, male or female, who is as consistent as Streep. She is simply great at her craft, probably the best of our era.

Regarding the Beatles, I hope wikkidpissah gives SPLHCB strong consideration for #1. It's another deep category, but as far as rock n roll albums go, that one broke the mold. It was the first popular concept album, and the recording industry was changed forever.

Paintings are getting better as the rounds roll on; after 12 picks I felt like we only had 5-6 top shelf quality picks, but we've had several great picks lately - Nimphee isn't my favorite Monet, but still keeps the streak going of about 5 or 6 straight terrific selections in the category. Still, plenty of 'big ones' out there. Going to be fun sorting this one out.

 

[Genedoc]

A couple great makeup picks not getting enough love:

12.10 El Floppo Acting Performance- Daniel Day Lewis, My Left Foot

One of the many criticisms of the Academy over the years is the easiest path to Best Actor is play someone with a disability. This one doesn't get lumped in with that, Lewis was amazing.

13.01 Fennis T.V. Show All In The Family

Great show that tackled a lot of societal issues. How many sitcoms spun off from this one? No doubt I'll leave a few off, but Sanford & Son, The Jefferson's and Maude were the three best ones. Norman Lear was dominant in that genre in the 70s.

Also loved the Merryl Streep pick; not sure if Sophie is the best choice, but only because she has turned in so many stellar performances. Nearly everyone who has or will get nominated in this category has had stinker roles. I don't know any actor, male or female, who is as consistent as Streep. She is simply great at her craft, probably the best of our era.

Regarding the Beatles, I hope wikkidpissah gives SPLHCB strong consideration for #1. It's another deep category, but as far as rock n roll albums go, that one broke the mold. It was the first popular concept album, and the recording industry was changed forever.

Paintings are getting better as the rounds roll on; after 12 picks I felt like we only had 5-6 top shelf quality picks, but we've had several great picks lately - Nimphee isn't my favorite Monet, but still keeps the streak going of about 5 or 6 straight terrific selections in the category. Still, plenty of 'big ones' out there. Going to be fun sorting this one out.

Not that I have anything against SPLHCB, but I would take issue with it being called the first popular concept album. Pet Sounds was most certainly a concept album, it was popular, and it directly influenced the end product that became SPLHCB. I wouldn't object at all to Sgt. Pepper being #1 overall, but one of the reasons I wanted Pet Sounds was because it's not only an exceptional album in it's own right and a clear masterpiece, it defined the modern concept album a year before Sgt. Pepper was released and it directly influenced Sgt. Pepper. With regard to acting performances, and other genres for that matter, I think influence on future performances is an important criteria. If someone does something great but nobody ever follows or emulates, it's difficult to judge it. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, so when one performance or piece of art is a clear and direct influence on subsequent art, I think it deserves exceptional recognition.

 

[Mister CIA]

Returning to the run on actors ...

13.12 - Jack Nicholson as R.P. McMurphy in One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. Acting performance.

It's been about 15-20 years since I watched this movie. Oh, things to do.

dang - thought this'd last til my 2nd actor pick....

I nearly went with another film in which Jack starred (one of his slightly less recognized performances).

You want me to hold the chicken?

Exactly.