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Official Great Works Draft (1 Viewer)

A couple great makeup picks not getting enough love:

12.10 El Floppo Acting Performance- Daniel Day Lewis, My Left Foot

One of the many criticisms of the Academy over the years is the easiest path to Best Actor is play someone with a disability. This one doesn't get lumped in with that, Lewis was amazing.

13.01 Fennis T.V. Show All In The Family

Great show that tackled a lot of societal issues. How many sitcoms spun off from this one? No doubt I'll leave a few off, but Sanford & Son, The Jefferson's and Maude were the three best ones. Norman Lear was dominant in that genre in the 70s.

Also loved the Merryl Streep pick; not sure if Sophie is the best choice, but only because she has turned in so many stellar performances. Nearly everyone who has or will get nominated in this category has had stinker roles. I don't know any actor, male or female, who is as consistent as Streep. She is simply great at her craft, probably the best of our era.

Regarding the Beatles, I hope wikkidpissah gives SPLHCB strong consideration for #1. It's another deep category, but as far as rock n roll albums go, that one broke the mold. It was the first popular concept album, and the recording industry was changed forever.

Paintings are getting better as the rounds roll on; after 12 picks I felt like we only had 5-6 top shelf quality picks, but we've had several great picks lately - Nimphee isn't my favorite Monet, but still keeps the streak going of about 5 or 6 straight terrific selections in the category. Still, plenty of 'big ones' out there. Going to be fun sorting this one out.
:excited: all around.I'm just catching up...went out for dinner last night, and the six of us showed up at the restaurant with 11 bottles. No way six people would finish all 11, right? Not only did we finish those, but we came back to my house and drank more. :excited:
I work in the wine business and I'm interested in chatting with any group of 6 people who can knock back 11 bottles of wine between them. PM me if you're interested.
Wait, you're in the wine business? I thought you were a doctor? Anyway, if you're serious, PM me. And it was 13-1/2, adding in the stuff we drank at my house. Oof.
Short version, I've been in the wine business for ~ 1 year after having been a research scientist for 10+ years. Longer version here if anyone's interested. I'll send a PM.
What wines did you have?? I am a collector of sorts, and enjoy the "health benefits" the fruits of the vine yield.After that much wine, I would probably be sleeping the slumber of Bacchus

 
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Short version, I've been in the wine business for ~ 1 year after having been a research scientist for 10+ years. Longer version here if anyone's interested. I'll send a PM.
Wine >> ScienceMan with his priorities properly in order.

:excited:

(gonna go read through your career change thread...and congrats on making a bold move)

 
Did we lose the Genedoc or is he off researching? Now I want to ask him a couple wine questions (or really suggestions for my wife). That and I'm primed to pick.

 
13.13 Nimphee - Claude Monet (Painting)
One of the biggets problems with Monet in this draft is he painted in series. The dude painted hundreds in a series in water lillies. Can you link to the painting you took?
ala LoTR, I took all of 'em . . .
This was supposed to be schtick, but obviously wasn't very funny.But the problem remains, which Water Lilies/Nimphee/Nimphees/Les Nympheas am I picking?

Generally, in lists of "greatest paintings", the "one" housed in the Musee de l'Orangerie in Paris is the one referred to.

While I knew that he had a large series of Lilies, I didn't realize that:

Claude Monet had been painting waterlilies on vast canvases since 1914 at his Giverny studio. He worked on them until his death at 86. One year later in 1927, the Orangerie (an 1852 former orange green house in the Tuileries Garden), was transformed into a museum to house Monet's giant waterlily panels.

Eight panels were installed in two specially-designed, oval-shaped rooms in the Orangerie. Each panel is over six feet tall. If lined up side by side, they would measure nearly 300 feet long. They are magnificent!
I'm going to have to try and find individual shots of these if I have to pick a single one.Actually, I think I'm going to take this one from the MOMA, since it was the one that I've seen in person.

It knocked me on my #### as no other painting has, and made me instantly fall for Monet.

Even the MOMA has more than one of the series.

The one that gets the crowds is the 3-panel "Reflections of Clouds on the Water-Lily Pond".

But the one that really touched me was the single panel: "Water Lilies" (c. 1920).

Of course, I can't find a photo of it.

Upon thinking about it further, I think that we may want to make a special ruling here, since basically, if only a single one of the series can be taken,

everyone can draft one, nullifying the pick all together.

Tough call here, but I think that even if I can only draft a single painting, the series should be taken off the board.
:excited: Thanks hummus!
 
What wines did you have?? I am a collector of sorts, and enjoy the "health benefits" the fruits of the vine yield.After that much wine, I would probably be sleeping the slumber of Bacchus
I'll send you a PM to our website/store front. We've anywhere from 50-75 wines in the portfolio at any given time, about 1/2 of which is French and the other 1/2 is spread out among Italian, Spanish, S. African, S. American, Australian. We focus exclusively on boutique wine - wines that are hand made in very small allocations by artisan wine makers. We do very little domestic wine because most of our clients are already quite familiar with California and other domestic wines.
 
What wines did you have?? I am a collector of sorts, and enjoy the "health benefits" the fruits of the vine yield.After that much wine, I would probably be sleeping the slumber of Bacchus
I'll send you a PM to our website/store front. We've anywhere from 50-75 wines in the portfolio at any given time, about 1/2 of which is French and the other 1/2 is spread out among Italian, Spanish, S. African, S. American, Australian. We focus exclusively on boutique wine - wines that are hand made in very small allocations by artisan wine makers. We do very little domestic wine because most of our clients are already quite familiar with California and other domestic wines.
You must have some beautiful boxes of wine on your site.
 
:excited: all around.

I'm just catching up...went out for dinner last night, and the six of us showed up at the restaurant with 11 bottles. No way six people would finish all 11, right? Not only did we finish those, but we came back to my house and drank more. :excited:
I work in the wine business and I'm interested in chatting with any group of 6 people who can knock back 11 bottles of wine between them. PM me if you're interested.
Wait, you're in the wine business? I thought you were a doctor? Anyway, if you're serious, PM me. And it was 13-1/2, adding in the stuff we drank at my house. Oof.
Short version, I've been in the wine business for ~ 1 year after having been a research scientist for 10+ years. Longer version here if anyone's interested. I'll send a PM.
What wines did you have?? I am a collector of sorts, and enjoy the "health benefits" the fruits of the vine yield.After that much wine, I would probably be sleeping the slumber of Bacchus
We took a 2002 E&E Black Pepper Shiraz, a Merry Edwards Pinot Noir, and a Viognier that I don't remember the name of (this will be a theme).My friends Talita and Neil brought Graham Beck Brut (bubbly from South Africa), an Argentinean Malbec whose name I don't remember, and a Sincerity (Chile) Merlot/Cab blend.

My friends Jim and Cindy brought a HUGE white Burgundy that I must get the name of from them, an Eroica Riesling, a red Bordeaux, and two bottles of Hungarian Tokaji (the 2000 Disznoko 6 Puttunyos).

At my house we had a bottle of Cava and half bottle of Frances Berwyn Zinfandel.

So only 12-1/2 bottles, now that I recount.

In our defense, we were having a 10-course tasting menu and decided to have a wine with each course. :excited:

 
We took a 2002 E&E Black Pepper Shiraz, a Merry Edwards Pinot Noir, and a Viognier that I don't remember the name of (this will be a theme).My friends Talita and Neil brought Graham Beck Brut (bubbly from South Africa), an Argentinean Malbec whose name I don't remember, and a Sincerity (Chile) Merlot/Cab blend. My friends Jim and Cindy brought a HUGE white Burgundy that I must get the name of from them, an Eroica Riesling, a red Bordeaux, and two bottles of Hungarian Tokaji (the 2000 Disznoko 6 Puttunyos). At my house we had a bottle of Cava and half bottle of Frances Berwyn Zinfandel. So only 12-1/2 bottles, now that I recount.In our defense, we were having a 10-course tasting menu and decided to have a wine with each course. :excited:
All in all, it sounds like a fun night!
 
And it was 13-1/2, adding in the stuff we drank at my house. Oof.
y'know that kind of drinking could lead to seriously impulsive behavior, like getting married on a whim or summin....
Yeah, thank god I'm already married.
I'd also like to thank god that you didnt drunk draft. I dont even want to know what we would have ended up with.
14.20 TiVo
The one man-made invention that proves without a doubt, that there is, in fact, a God.
 
Did we lose the Genedoc or is he off researching? Now I want to ask him a couple wine questions (or really suggestions for my wife). That and I'm primed to pick.
Sorry, I'm here. We're having intermittent power outages, and I've been PMing folks about wine. I've my pick ready....I'll make it and then get back to answering questions about wine.
 
We took a 2002 E&E Black Pepper Shiraz, a Merry Edwards Pinot Noir, and a Viognier that I don't remember the name of (this will be a theme).

My friends Talita and Neil brought Graham Beck Brut (bubbly from South Africa), an Argentinean Malbec whose name I don't remember, and a Sincerity (Chile) Merlot/Cab blend.

My friends Jim and Cindy brought a HUGE white Burgundy that I must get the name of from them, an Eroica Riesling, a red Bordeaux, and two bottles of Hungarian Tokaji (the 2000 Disznoko 6 Puttunyos).

At my house we had a bottle of Cava and half bottle of Frances Berwyn Zinfandel.

So only 12-1/2 bottles, now that I recount.

In our defense, we were having a 10-course tasting menu and decided to have a wine with each course. :)
All in all, it sounds like a fun night!
I think I like your friends better than mine - too many consider Bartles and James master vintners.And Jim and Cindy are Gold

 
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We took a 2002 E&E Black Pepper Shiraz, a Merry Edwards Pinot Noir, and a Viognier that I don't remember the name of (this will be a theme).My friends Talita and Neil brought Graham Beck Brut (bubbly from South Africa), an Argentinean Malbec whose name I don't remember, and a Sincerity (Chile) Merlot/Cab blend. My friends Jim and Cindy brought a HUGE white Burgundy that I must get the name of from them, an Eroica Riesling, a red Bordeaux, and two bottles of Hungarian Tokaji (the 2000 Disznoko 6 Puttunyos). At my house we had a bottle of Cava and half bottle of Frances Berwyn Zinfandel. So only 12-1/2 bottles, now that I recount.In our defense, we were having a 10-course tasting menu and decided to have a wine with each course. :)
All in all, it sounds like a fun night!
I think I like your friends better than mine - too many consider Bartles and James master vintners.And Jim and Cindy are Gold
Well if they are 18 and think Boones Farm is the conerstone of the industry, then no doubt. I've heard some great things about the Argentinian Malbecs, but have yet to try one myself. May have to hit the store today.
 
We took a 2002 E&E Black Pepper Shiraz, a Merry Edwards Pinot Noir, and a Viognier that I don't remember the name of (this will be a theme).My friends Talita and Neil brought Graham Beck Brut (bubbly from South Africa), an Argentinean Malbec whose name I don't remember, and a Sincerity (Chile) Merlot/Cab blend. My friends Jim and Cindy brought a HUGE white Burgundy that I must get the name of from them, an Eroica Riesling, a red Bordeaux, and two bottles of Hungarian Tokaji (the 2000 Disznoko 6 Puttunyos). At my house we had a bottle of Cava and half bottle of Frances Berwyn Zinfandel. So only 12-1/2 bottles, now that I recount.In our defense, we were having a 10-course tasting menu and decided to have a wine with each course. :)
Friends that bring white Burgundy and red Bordeaux to dinner parties are very good friends. Feel free to pass along our website info to them. :)
 
We took a 2002 E&E Black Pepper Shiraz, a Merry Edwards Pinot Noir, and a Viognier that I don't remember the name of (this will be a theme).My friends Talita and Neil brought Graham Beck Brut (bubbly from South Africa), an Argentinean Malbec whose name I don't remember, and a Sincerity (Chile) Merlot/Cab blend. My friends Jim and Cindy brought a HUGE white Burgundy that I must get the name of from them, an Eroica Riesling, a red Bordeaux, and two bottles of Hungarian Tokaji (the 2000 Disznoko 6 Puttunyos). At my house we had a bottle of Cava and half bottle of Frances Berwyn Zinfandel. So only 12-1/2 bottles, now that I recount.In our defense, we were having a 10-course tasting menu and decided to have a wine with each course. :)
All in all, it sounds like a fun night!
I think I like your friends better than mine - too many consider Bartles and James master vintners.And Jim and Cindy are Gold
Jim knows more about wine that the other five of us combined. He gets so excited about it it can be really funny. The problem is that he is 6'7" and has a much higher tolerance than the rest of us, so keeping up with him leads to a lot of :) .
 
We took a 2002 E&E Black Pepper Shiraz, a Merry Edwards Pinot Noir, and a Viognier that I don't remember the name of (this will be a theme).My friends Talita and Neil brought Graham Beck Brut (bubbly from South Africa), an Argentinean Malbec whose name I don't remember, and a Sincerity (Chile) Merlot/Cab blend. My friends Jim and Cindy brought a HUGE white Burgundy that I must get the name of from them, an Eroica Riesling, a red Bordeaux, and two bottles of Hungarian Tokaji (the 2000 Disznoko 6 Puttunyos). At my house we had a bottle of Cava and half bottle of Frances Berwyn Zinfandel. So only 12-1/2 bottles, now that I recount.In our defense, we were having a 10-course tasting menu and decided to have a wine with each course. :)
Friends that bring white Burgundy and red Bordeaux to dinner parties are very good friends. Feel free to pass along our website info to them. :)
I definitely will. We also have another friend who has a 9,500-bottle collection :) so I will pass along to him as well.
 
We took a 2002 E&E Black Pepper Shiraz, a Merry Edwards Pinot Noir, and a Viognier that I don't remember the name of (this will be a theme).My friends Talita and Neil brought Graham Beck Brut (bubbly from South Africa), an Argentinean Malbec whose name I don't remember, and a Sincerity (Chile) Merlot/Cab blend. My friends Jim and Cindy brought a HUGE white Burgundy that I must get the name of from them, an Eroica Riesling, a red Bordeaux, and two bottles of Hungarian Tokaji (the 2000 Disznoko 6 Puttunyos). At my house we had a bottle of Cava and half bottle of Frances Berwyn Zinfandel. So only 12-1/2 bottles, now that I recount.In our defense, we were having a 10-course tasting menu and decided to have a wine with each course. :)
All in all, it sounds like a fun night!
I think I like your friends better than mine - too many consider Bartles and James master vintners.And Jim and Cindy are Gold
Well if they are 18 and think Boones Farm is the conerstone of the industry, then no doubt. I've heard some great things about the Argentinian Malbecs, but have yet to try one myself. May have to hit the store today.
I think Argentine and Chilean wines are incredible values at this time
 
Sorry for the delay...I got several PMs all at once. If I missed anyone who wants a link to the store front, ding me again.

My intention was to wait on scientific discoveries because being a scientists, I've some pretty important ones that I don't think will make most readily findable lists on the internet, and I knew I could get value late. However, there is one big one left on the board that I cannot let slip past us again. I think it should've gone as a top 5-10 scientific discovery, and we contemplated drafting it as early as rounds 5-6. It's a discovery that overturned 2,000 years of Aristotelian belief and laid the foundation for most of modern science. It defined modern physics. With 13.18, Bonzai and I proudly select...

13.18 Galileo Galilei - Discovery that Falling Bodies Fall at a Uniform Rate Independent of Mass - Scientific Discovery

 
All in all, it sounds like a fun night!
I think I like your friends better than mine - too many consider Bartles and James master vintners.And Jim and Cindy are Gold
Well if they are 18 and think Boones Farm is the conerstone of the industry, then no doubt. I've heard some great things about the Argentinian Malbecs, but have yet to try one myself. May have to hit the store today.
I think Argentine and Chilean wines are incredible values at this time
:) Check out Uruguayan, too, if you haven't already.
 
Sorry for the delay...I got several PMs all at once. If I missed anyone who wants a link to the store front, ding me again.

My intention was to wait on scientific discoveries because being a scientists, I've some pretty important ones that I don't think will make most readily findable lists on the internet, and I knew I could get value late. However, there is one big one left on the board that I cannot let slip past us again. I think it should've gone as a top 5-10 scientific discovery, and we contemplated drafting it as early as rounds 5-6. It's a discovery that overturned 2,000 years of Aristotelian belief and laid the foundation for most of modern science. It defined modern physics. With 13.18, Bonzai and I proudly select...

13.18 Galileo Galilei - Discovery that Falling Bodies Fall at a Uniform Rate Independent of Mass - Scientific Discovery
Ohhh nice pick (and one I have been eying for a while) but I'll take this one:01.19 BUILDING/STRUCTURE - Hagia Sophia

02.02 SCIENTIFIC DISCOVERY - Human Anatomy Andreas Vesalius

03.19 PAINTING - The Last Supper Leonardo da Vinci

04.02 NOVEL - Aesop's Fables Aesop

05.19 SCULPTURE - The Kiss Auguste Rodin

06.02 BUILDING/STRUCTURE - The Colossus of Rhodes Chares

07.19 COMPOSITION - The Four Seasons Antonio Vivaldi

08.02 INVENTION - Cuneiform Writing Sumerians

09.19 POLITICAL DOCUMENT - The Treaty of Tordesillas

10.02 POEM - The Charge of the Light Brigade by Alfred, Lord Tennyson

11.19 INVENTION - The Assembly Line by Ransome Eli Olds and Henry Ford

12.02 NON FICTION BOOK - Discourses on the First Ten Books of Titus Livius by Niccolo Machiavelli

13.19 SCIENTIFIC DISCOVERY - Vaccination (1796) Edward Jenner

(short version) Edward Jenner, an English country doctor, performs the first vaccination against smallpox after discovering that inoculation with cowpox provides immunity. Jenner formulated his theory after noticing that patients who work with cattle and had come into contact with cowpox never came down with smallpox when an epidemic ravaged the countryside in 1788. (/short version)

The world had understood the potential of “exposure infers future immunity” since the times of the ancient Chinese (who used to blow dried skin flakes from small pox scabs into the nostrils of healthy people). The downfall though was that often the person would come down with the disease anyway which regularly resulted in death or disfigurement.

As a young physician, Jenner noted that dairy workers who had been exposed to cowpox, a disease like smallpox only milder, seemed immune to the more severe infection. He continually put forth his theory that cowpox could be used to prevent smallpox, but his contemporaries shunned his ideas. After observing cases of cowpox and smallpox for a quarter century, Jenner took a step that could have branded him a criminal, just as easily as a hero. On May 14, 1796 he removed the fluid of a cowpox from dairymaid Sarah Nelmes, and inoculated James Phipps, an eight-year-old boy, who soon came down with cowpox. Six weeks later, he inoculated the boy with smallpox. The boy remained healthy. Jenner had proved his theory. He called his method vaccination, using the Latin word vacca, meaning cow, and vaccinia, meaning cowpox. He also introduced the word virus.

Within 18 months, the number of deaths from smallpox had dropped by two-thirds in England after 12,000 people were vaccinated. By 1800, 100,000 people had been vaccinated worldwide. As the demand for the vaccine rapidly increased, Jenner discovered that he could take lymph from a smallpox pustule and dry it in a glass tube for use up to three months later. The vaccine could then be transported. Although he constantly battled with the London College of Physicians (who refused him entry), he became a world wide celebrity. Napoleon released some English prisoners at his request during the war of 1804.. Thomas Jefferson would request and then use his vaccination serums and techniques on the people around his estate of Monticello.

Vaccination opened the door for mankind to conquer and eradicate diseases that were regularly culling the population. I don’t want to go much deeper as a few others in this category count as discoveries in their own right. Combined with the already drafted “disease theory of germs” and antibiotics, mankind has the foundation for longer life in place.

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We took a 2002 E&E Black Pepper Shiraz, a Merry Edwards Pinot Noir, and a Viognier that I don't remember the name of (this will be a theme).

My friends Talita and Neil brought Graham Beck Brut (bubbly from South Africa), an Argentinean Malbec whose name I don't remember, and a Sincerity (Chile) Merlot/Cab blend.

My friends Jim and Cindy brought a HUGE white Burgundy that I must get the name of from them, an Eroica Riesling, a red Bordeaux, and two bottles of Hungarian Tokaji (the 2000 Disznoko 6 Puttunyos).

At my house we had a bottle of Cava and half bottle of Frances Berwyn Zinfandel.

So only 12-1/2 bottles, now that I recount.

In our defense, we were having a 10-course tasting menu and decided to have a wine with each course. :)
Friends that bring white Burgundy and red Bordeaux to dinner parties are very good friends. Feel free to pass along our website info to them. :)
I definitely will. We also have another friend who has a 9,500-bottle collection :lmao: so I will pass along to him as well.
9500 :lmao: I suggest he start drinking

 
We took a 2002 E&E Black Pepper Shiraz, a Merry Edwards Pinot Noir, and a Viognier that I don't remember the name of (this will be a theme).

My friends Talita and Neil brought Graham Beck Brut (bubbly from South Africa), an Argentinean Malbec whose name I don't remember, and a Sincerity (Chile) Merlot/Cab blend.

My friends Jim and Cindy brought a HUGE white Burgundy that I must get the name of from them, an Eroica Riesling, a red Bordeaux, and two bottles of Hungarian Tokaji (the 2000 Disznoko 6 Puttunyos).

At my house we had a bottle of Cava and half bottle of Frances Berwyn Zinfandel.

So only 12-1/2 bottles, now that I recount.

In our defense, we were having a 10-course tasting menu and decided to have a wine with each course. :thumbup:
As an educated man raised in a bar like the one in Deer Hunter, I find dinner parties like these fascinating. I've been invited to many and rarely attend. Their conversations bore me. I'm much happier in wood-paneled dens where the choice of a Guinness over a Budweiser is dangerously sophisticated, and the topics of discussion revolve around tales of the addicted, decadent, obscene and twisted. The names of our drinks are simple, but also far less haut monde. Still, I admire the sheer volume of alcohol you winos consume. I take my ballcap off to you....and cringe at the jackhammer headaches you must suffer. Wine hangovers are the absolute worst. I'd much rather puke oil at 3am and crap black logs than suffer the agonies you go through. This tells me that you people really love your grapes, and I've always respected that, even if there's something silly about the way you cite vintages and years like so many hipsters who wear obscure band names on the sleeve as a psychic self-defense mechanism.

Cheers.

 
Sorry for the delay...I got several PMs all at once. If I missed anyone who wants a link to the store front, ding me again.

My intention was to wait on scientific discoveries because being a scientists, I've some pretty important ones that I don't think will make most readily findable lists on the internet, and I knew I could get value late. However, there is one big one left on the board that I cannot let slip past us again. I think it should've gone as a top 5-10 scientific discovery, and we contemplated drafting it as early as rounds 5-6. It's a discovery that overturned 2,000 years of Aristotelian belief and laid the foundation for most of modern science. It defined modern physics. With 13.18, Bonzai and I proudly select...

13.18 Galileo Galilei - Discovery that Falling Bodies Fall at a Uniform Rate Independent of Mass - Scientific Discovery
Ohhh nice pick (and one I have been eying for a while) but I'll take this one:01.19 BUILDING/STRUCTURE - Hagia Sophia

02.02 SCIENTIFIC DISCOVERY - Human Anatomy Andreas Vesalius

03.19 PAINTING - The Last Supper Leonardo da Vinci

04.02 NOVEL - Aesop's Fables Aesop

05.19 SCULPTURE - The Kiss Auguste Rodin

06.02 BUILDING/STRUCTURE - The Colossus of Rhodes Chares

07.19 COMPOSITION - The Four Seasons Antonio Vivaldi

08.02 INVENTION - Cuneiform Writing Sumerians

09.19 POLITICAL DOCUMENT - The Treaty of Tordesillas

10.02 POEM - The Charge of the Light Brigade by Alfred, Lord Tennyson

11.19 INVENTION - The Assembly Line by Ransome Eli Olds and Henry Ford

12.02 NON FICTION BOOK - Discourses on the First Ten Books of Titus Livius by Niccolo Machiavelli

13.19 SCIENTIFIC DISCOVERY - Vaccination (1796) Edward Jenner

(short version) Edward Jenner, an English country doctor, performs the first vaccination against smallpox after discovering that inoculation with cowpox provides immunity. Jenner formulated his theory after noticing that patients who work with cattle and had come into contact with cowpox never came down with smallpox when an epidemic ravaged the countryside in 1788. (/short version)

The world had understood the potential of “exposure infers future immunity” since the times of the ancient Chinese (who used to blow dried skin flakes from small pox scabs into the nostrils of healthy people). The downfall though was that often the person would come down with the disease anyway which regularly resulted in death or disfigurement.

As a young physician, Jenner noted that dairy workers who had been exposed to cowpox, a disease like smallpox only milder, seemed immune to the more severe infection. He continually put forth his theory that cowpox could be used to prevent smallpox, but his contemporaries shunned his ideas. After observing cases of cowpox and smallpox for a quarter century, Jenner took a step that could have branded him a criminal, just as easily as a hero. On May 14, 1796 he removed the fluid of a cowpox from dairymaid Sarah Nelmes, and inoculated James Phipps, an eight-year-old boy, who soon came down with cowpox. Six weeks later, he inoculated the boy with smallpox. The boy remained healthy. Jenner had proved his theory. He called his method vaccination, using the Latin word vacca, meaning cow, and vaccinia, meaning cowpox. He also introduced the word virus.

Within 18 months, the number of deaths from smallpox had dropped by two-thirds in England after 12,000 people were vaccinated. By 1800, 100,000 people had been vaccinated worldwide. As the demand for the vaccine rapidly increased, Jenner discovered that he could take lymph from a smallpox pustule and dry it in a glass tube for use up to three months later. The vaccine could then be transported. Although he constantly battled with the London College of Physicians (who refused him entry), he became a world wide celebrity. Napoleon released some English prisoners at his request during the war of 1804.. Thomas Jefferson would request and then use his vaccination serums and techniques on the people around his estate of Monticello.

Vaccination opened the door for mankind to conquer and eradicate diseases that were regularly culling the population. I don’t want to go much deeper as a few others in this category count as discoveries in their own right. Combined with the already drafted “disease theory of germs” and antibiotics, mankind has the foundation for longer life in place.

/edited for future draft cut and paste format
I should stop being suprised that the choice I vaccilate between with my previous pick gets swiped.
 
We took a 2002 E&E Black Pepper Shiraz, a Merry Edwards Pinot Noir, and a Viognier that I don't remember the name of (this will be a theme).

My friends Talita and Neil brought Graham Beck Brut (bubbly from South Africa), an Argentinean Malbec whose name I don't remember, and a Sincerity (Chile) Merlot/Cab blend.

My friends Jim and Cindy brought a HUGE white Burgundy that I must get the name of from them, an Eroica Riesling, a red Bordeaux, and two bottles of Hungarian Tokaji (the 2000 Disznoko 6 Puttunyos).

At my house we had a bottle of Cava and half bottle of Frances Berwyn Zinfandel.

So only 12-1/2 bottles, now that I recount.

In our defense, we were having a 10-course tasting menu and decided to have a wine with each course. :)
As an educated man raised in a bar like the one in Deer Hunter, I find dinner parties like these fascinating. I've been invited to many and rarely attend. Their conversations bore me. I'm much happier in wood-paneled dens where the choice of a Guinness over a Budweiser is dangerously sophisticated, and the topics of discussion revolve around tales of the addicted, decadent, obscene and twisted. The names of our drinks are simple, but also far less haut monde. Still, I admire the sheer volume of alcohol you winos consume. I take my ballcap off to you....and cringe at the jackhammer headaches you must suffer. Wine hangovers are the absolute worst. I'd much rather puke oil at 3am and crap black logs than suffer the agonies you go through. This tells me that you people really love your grapes, and I've always respected that, even if there's something silly about the way you cite vintages and years like so many hipsters who wear obscure band names on the sleeve as a psychic self-defense mechanism.

Cheers.
Wasn't a dinner party; we were at a restaurant. What I can't figure out, though, is why you think you have any idea what the conversation consisted of. Shockingly, I'm not really feeling too bad today. Wine hangovers have never bothered me.BTW, my husband is an educated man who actually grew up where The Deer Hunter was filmed. I'm certain he wouldn't recommend a visit, though.

 
Guess all my hemming and hawing over Vaccination in the past couple of rounds could have only led to a snipe. Fantastic choice.

 
I like wine and all, but the talk about it is lost on me.
You can take anything to the point of pretension and absurdity. Here's a review I found from a beer site:
Big thanks to Bboyshatter for sending this want along in the under 100 BIF.

Bottle poured into my Sam Adams glass. Ended up giving me a finger worth of white head that trailed of to a thin lace, this is of course on top of a nice reddish brown body.

Aromas of nice caramel sweetness and a light roast came into my head. Surprisingly I didn't detect any hops but in the first sip I got hit with them. The flavor of the brew is lightly sweet but tends toward the hop bitter finish. This is really unique brown ale to me in that aspect that the hops are so pronounced. I am so used to my locals that this is a pleasant change a medium feel to it in my mouth and light carbonation.

Easy to drink and quite sessionable I would go back for more
Some people are perfectly happy drinking Budweiser (or white zinfandel) their whole lives and never venturing beyond that. And there's nothing wrong with that at all. However, to many others, variety is the spice of life. They want to be able to compare and contrast a Rhone Syrah with a California Syrah, or a Triple Bock with a Pilsner.
 
I like wine and all, but the talk about it is lost on me.
You can take anything to the point of pretension and absurdity. Here's a review I found from a beer site:
Big thanks to Bboyshatter for sending this want along in the under 100 BIF.

Bottle poured into my Sam Adams glass. Ended up giving me a finger worth of white head that trailed of to a thin lace, this is of course on top of a nice reddish brown body.

Aromas of nice caramel sweetness and a light roast came into my head. Surprisingly I didn't detect any hops but in the first sip I got hit with them. The flavor of the brew is lightly sweet but tends toward the hop bitter finish. This is really unique brown ale to me in that aspect that the hops are so pronounced. I am so used to my locals that this is a pleasant change a medium feel to it in my mouth and light carbonation.

Easy to drink and quite sessionable I would go back for more
Some people are perfectly happy drinking Budweiser (or white zinfandel) their whole lives and never venturing beyond that. And there's nothing wrong with that at all. However, to many others, variety is the spice of life. They want to be able to compare and contrast a Rhone Syrah with a California Syrah, or a Triple Bock with a Pilsner.
Sessionable?One more wine note: looked at your site and am really impressed that you focus on less than 500-case production. That's amazing. I look forward to trying some of them!

 
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I like wine and all, but the talk about it is lost on me.
You can take anything to the point of pretension and absurdity. Here's a review I found from a beer site:
Big thanks to Bboyshatter for sending this want along in the under 100 BIF.

Bottle poured into my Sam Adams glass. Ended up giving me a finger worth of white head that trailed of to a thin lace, this is of course on top of a nice reddish brown body.

Aromas of nice caramel sweetness and a light roast came into my head. Surprisingly I didn't detect any hops but in the first sip I got hit with them. The flavor of the brew is lightly sweet but tends toward the hop bitter finish. This is really unique brown ale to me in that aspect that the hops are so pronounced. I am so used to my locals that this is a pleasant change a medium feel to it in my mouth and light carbonation.

Easy to drink and quite sessionable I would go back for more
Some people are perfectly happy drinking Budweiser (or white zinfandel) their whole lives and never venturing beyond that. And there's nothing wrong with that at all. However, to many others, variety is the spice of life. They want to be able to compare and contrast a Rhone Syrah with a California Syrah, or a Triple Bock with a Pilsner.
Sessionable?One more wine note: looked at your site and am really impressed that you focus on less than 500-case production. That's amazing. I look forward to trying some of them!
Excellent. Some of our wines do get made in quantities over 1-2k cases/year, but those are offset by the Grand Crus and other rare wines that are made in 75, 100, 150 case amounts. It's our opinion that you only have the fine control required to make world class wine when you do it on a small enough scale that you can control as many variables as possible. Email me if you have any questions. One of the tough parts of my job is that I've had to taste nearly every bottle in our portfolio.
 
I like wine and all, but the talk about it is lost on me.
You can take anything to the point of pretension and absurdity. Here's a review I found from a beer site:
Big thanks to Bboyshatter for sending this want along in the under 100 BIF.

Bottle poured into my Sam Adams glass. Ended up giving me a finger worth of white head that trailed of to a thin lace, this is of course on top of a nice reddish brown body.

Aromas of nice caramel sweetness and a light roast came into my head. Surprisingly I didn't detect any hops but in the first sip I got hit with them. The flavor of the brew is lightly sweet but tends toward the hop bitter finish. This is really unique brown ale to me in that aspect that the hops are so pronounced. I am so used to my locals that this is a pleasant change a medium feel to it in my mouth and light carbonation.

Easy to drink and quite sessionable I would go back for more
Some people are perfectly happy drinking Budweiser (or white zinfandel) their whole lives and never venturing beyond that. And there's nothing wrong with that at all. However, to many others, variety is the spice of life. They want to be able to compare and contrast a Rhone Syrah with a California Syrah, or a Triple Bock with a Pilsner.
Sessionable?One more wine note: looked at your site and am really impressed that you focus on less than 500-case production. That's amazing. I look forward to trying some of them!
Excellent. Some of our wines do get made in quantities over 1-2k cases/year, but those are offset by the Grand Crus and other rare wines that are made in 75, 100, 150 case amounts. It's our opinion that you only have the fine control required to make world class wine when you do it on a small enough scale that you can control as many variables as possible. Email me if you have any questions. One of the tough parts of my job is that I've had to taste nearly every bottle in our portfolio.
I am starting to hate you :wall:
 
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We took a 2002 E&E Black Pepper Shiraz, a Merry Edwards Pinot Noir, and a Viognier that I don't remember the name of (this will be a theme).

My friends Talita and Neil brought Graham Beck Brut (bubbly from South Africa), an Argentinean Malbec whose name I don't remember, and a Sincerity (Chile) Merlot/Cab blend.

My friends Jim and Cindy brought a HUGE white Burgundy that I must get the name of from them, an Eroica Riesling, a red Bordeaux, and two bottles of Hungarian Tokaji (the 2000 Disznoko 6 Puttunyos).

At my house we had a bottle of Cava and half bottle of Frances Berwyn Zinfandel.

So only 12-1/2 bottles, now that I recount.

In our defense, we were having a 10-course tasting menu and decided to have a wine with each course. :thumbup:
As an educated man raised in a bar like the one in Deer Hunter, I find dinner parties like these fascinating. I've been invited to many and rarely attend. Their conversations bore me. I'm much happier in wood-paneled dens where the choice of a Guinness over a Budweiser is dangerously sophisticated, and the topics of discussion revolve around tales of the addicted, decadent, obscene and twisted. The names of our drinks are simple, but also far less haut monde. Still, I admire the sheer volume of alcohol you winos consume. I take my ballcap off to you....and cringe at the jackhammer headaches you must suffer. Wine hangovers are the absolute worst. I'd much rather puke oil at 3am and crap black logs than suffer the agonies you go through. This tells me that you people really love your grapes, and I've always respected that, even if there's something silly about the way you cite vintages and years like so many hipsters who wear obscure band names on the sleeve as a psychic self-defense mechanism.

Cheers.
Wasn't a dinner party; we were at a restaurant. What I can't figure out, though, is why you think you have any idea what the conversation consisted of. Shockingly, I'm not really feeling too bad today. Wine hangovers have never bothered me.BTW, my husband is an educated man who actually grew up where The Deer Hunter was filmed. I'm certain he wouldn't recommend a visit, though.
You ate a 10 course tasting menu. You ate. You drank wine. While the location and menu may exclude it from your technical definition of a dinner party, this is kinda what it was. Also, I never said I knew what the conversation at your little soiree (please don't correct my use of this word, just roll with it) was. I just said I've been to a few wino dinner parties that sounded similar to what you described, and found the conversation boring. Perhaps yours was wild with monkeys swinging from the rafters. Who knows. I don't care.

I'm sorry I responded to you, both then and now. I sort of forgot who I was responding to the first time; I was just responding to the content.

Thanks for reminding me.

 
I will add to my titanic non-fiction collection and select another important writing to American history.

It was first published anonymously on January 10, 1776, during the American Revolution. It was signed "Written by an Englishman", and it became an immediate success. In relation to the population of the Colonies at that time, it had the largest sale and circulation of any book in American history. It presented the American colonists with a powerful argument for independence from British rule at a time when the question of independence was still undecided. It reasoned in a style that common people understood; forgoing the philosophy and Latin references used by Enlightenment era writers, it was structured like a sermon and relied on Biblical references to make its case to the people. Historian Gordon S. Wood described it as, “the most incendiary and popular pamphlet of the entire revolutionary era.”

I select Thomas Paine's Common Sense

 
I will add to my titanic non-fiction collection and select another important writing to American history.

It was first published anonymously on January 10, 1776, during the American Revolution. It was signed "Written by an Englishman", and it became an immediate success. In relation to the population of the Colonies at that time, it had the largest sale and circulation of any book in American history. It presented the American colonists with a powerful argument for independence from British rule at a time when the question of independence was still undecided. It reasoned in a style that common people understood; forgoing the philosophy and Latin references used by Enlightenment era writers, it was structured like a sermon and relied on Biblical references to make its case to the people. Historian Gordon S. Wood described it as, “the most incendiary and popular pamphlet of the entire revolutionary era.”

I select Thomas Paine's Common Sense
Almost took this instead of the Gettysburg Address.
 

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