Official Great Works Draft (4 Viewers)

[thatguy]

Makeup pick.

Going with a personal favorite here. Fairly certain it will not do well with the judge as it is not on any "greatest of all time" lists. But for my money it doesn't get any better. I thought about taking the most popular album by this band, as it is likely to at least be middle of the pack, but would rather go with my favorite instead.

Nirvana Unplugged

I consider this show to be Kurt's swan song of sorts. His emotion is palpable in every note. A truly amazing performance.

I'll link the video of the final song of the show, "Where Did You Sleep Last Night." It is simply incredible. Kurt was a man who felt he had nothing more to give this world, and this resonates throughout this song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xHl-P_arVA...feature=related

Track listing

1. "About a Girl" (Kurt Cobain) – 3:37

2. "Come as You Are" (Cobain) – 4:13

3. "Jesus Doesn't Want Me for a Sunbeam" (Eugene Kelly, Frances McKee) – 4:37

4. "The Man Who Sold the World" (David Bowie) – 4:20

5. "Pennyroyal Tea" (Cobain) – 3:40

6. "Dumb" (Cobain) – 2:52

7. "Polly" (Cobain) – 3:16

8. "On a Plain" (Cobain) – 3:44

9. "Something in the Way" (Cobain) – 4:01

10. "Plateau" (Curt Kirkwood) – 3:37

11. "Oh Me" (Kirkwood) – 3:26

12. "Lake of Fire" (Kirkwood) – 2:56

13. "All Apologies" (Cobain) – 4:23

14. "Where Did You Sleep Last Night?" (Traditional; arranged by Lead Belly) – 5:08

 

[Postradamus]

wow nice snag sack. was looking at trying for that in a few rounds.

also, nirvana unplugged is definitely awesome

 

[Postradamus]

paypal sent. keep up the good work.

 

[timschochet]

I'm going to stun flysack with this pick. I know I am.

Ever since college, I had grouped this author with guys I couldn't stand, like Joyce, Proust, Nabakov (I know, all the giants!) But this guy, who I never bothered to read, particularly annoyed me because I was in this short story creative writing class one semester, and there was this Irish guy who wore black turtlenecks and always had amazingly hot chicks on his arm that I could only dream of getting, and this poser used to recite poetry and everyone said about his writing, "Oh, Liam, you're so Kafkaesque!" Man I hated that ####er.

But you know what? Years later, I read this novel, and it was quite good. Actually, it was astonishingly good. And I realized it was Liam and his pretentiousness and ability to pick up women that I hated, not Kafka.

The story is about a guy who's arrested one morning, and we don't know what for. And then he's prosecuted, and we still don't know what for. And that's only the beginning. I mean, this story is weird. There's pornography, and people being whipped, and I think I would need some literary expert like flysack to fully explain it to me. But it's unforgettable even so. It's extremely disturbing (probably the most disturbing thing I've ever read). In a way, it reminded me of Alice In Wonderland, except there's no sense of wonder, only dread. In reading the Wikipedia writeup, I learned that Kafka didn't even want it published; I guess he was disturbed about it too. Anyhow, the whole book reads like a nightmare, and I have to admit it is a true work of art.

26.17 The Trial by Franz Kafka

 

[BobbyLayne]

26.15 Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn's The Gulag Archipelago (Nonfiction)

The power of Solzhenitsyn's account comes from revelation, not innovation. A world that had been heard about in fleeting glimpses, pieced together in one work in phenomenal physical and emotional detail. More vivid descriptions than you could possibly want - which makes it an even more fascinating read. Glad this is still here, 'cause my Nonfiction category is barren at the moment.

The Gulag Archipelago (Russian: Архипелаг ГУЛАГ, Arkhipelag GULAG) is a book by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn based on the Soviet forced labor and concentration camp system. The three-volume book is a massive narrative relying on eyewitness testimony and primary research material, as well as the author's own experiences as a prisoner in a Gulag labor camp. Written between 1958 and 1968 (dates given at the end of the book), it was published in the West in 1973, thereafter circulating in samizdat (underground publication) form in the Soviet Union until its official publication in 1989.

"GULag" is an acronym for the Russian term "Gulág", Glavnoye Upravleniye ispravitelno-trudovyh Lagerey, Russian for "Chief Administration of Corrective Labour Camps" (Главное Управление Исправительно Трудовых Лагерей), the bureaucratic name of the Soviet concentration camp main governing board, and by metonymy, the camp system itself. The original Russian title of the book is "Arkhipelag GULag", the rhyme supporting the underlying metaphor deployed throughout the work. The word archipelago compares the system of labor camps spread across the Soviet Union with a vast "chain of islands", known only to those who were fated to visit them.

FML

 

[krista4]

I'm going to stun flysack with this pick. I know I am.

Ever since college, I had grouped this author with guys I couldn't stand, like Joyce, Proust, Nabakov (I know, all the giants!) But this guy, who I never bothered to read, particularly annoyed me because I was in this short story creative writing class one semester, and there was this Irish guy who wore black turtlenecks and always had amazingly hot chicks on his arm that I could only dream of getting, and this poser used to recite poetry and everyone said about his writing, "Oh, Liam, you're so Kafkaesque!" Man I hated that ####er.

But you know what? Years later, I read this novel, and it was quite good. Actually, it was astonishingly good. And I realized it was Liam and his pretentiousness and ability to pick up women that I hated, not Kafka.

The story is about a guy who's arrested one morning, and we don't know what for. And then he's prosecuted, and we still don't know what for. And that's only the beginning. I mean, this story is weird. There's pornography, and people being whipped, and I think I would need some literary expert like flysack to fully explain it to me. But it's unforgettable even so. It's extremely disturbing (probably the most disturbing thing I've ever read). In a way, it reminded me of Alice In Wonderland, except there's no sense of wonder, only dread. In reading the Wikipedia writeup, I learned that Kafka didn't even want it published; I guess he was disturbed about it too. Anyhow, the whole book reads like a nightmare, and I have to admit it is a true work of art.

26.17 The Trial by Franz Kafka

First you take Bicycle Thieves; then you snipe me on my next pick! Full of surprises, mister. Great pick.

 

[BobbyLayne]

oh waiting on flysack again. probably eating hotdogs and sneering at timschochet's literary preferences somewhere...like always.

As I posted last night, autoskip us, we'll catch up when one of us is around.I won't be like someguys and hold up the entire draft. Every. Friggin'. Turn.

 

[Postradamus]

okay, I have to take this at some point...and since norwood took hendrix, I've realized that I need to get the things that I gotta have. So with that I would like to select my favorite television show of all time:

SOUTH PARK Trey Parker and Matt Stone 26.18

I remember the first episode. Four hilarious cussing kids getting abducted by aliens was pretty much the only thing I ever wanted to see. As I've grown with the show, it's become more purposeful in message and direction. It's broken boundaries that the Simpson and others never crossed. South Park is forever at the forefront of comedy and current issues. Years from now, the full impact of this show will be appreciated if it is not already.

Every Episode Ever Made.

 

[timschochet]

Another neat thing for me about The Trial: my first novel pick was Crime and Punishment, and apparently there's a connection between the two picks. Per the Wiki article, Kafka based his novel on the earlier novel.

 

[El Floppo]

I'm going to stun flysack with this pick. I know I am.

Ever since college, I had grouped this author with guys I couldn't stand, like Joyce, Proust, Nabakov (I know, all the giants!) But this guy, who I never bothered to read, particularly annoyed me because I was in this short story creative writing class one semester, and there was this Irish guy who wore black turtlenecks and always had amazingly hot chicks on his arm that I could only dream of getting, and this poser used to recite poetry and everyone said about his writing, "Oh, Liam, you're so Kafkaesque!" Man I hated that ####er.

But you know what? Years later, I read this novel, and it was quite good. Actually, it was astonishingly good. And I realized it was Liam and his pretentiousness and ability to pick up women that I hated, not Kafka.

The story is about a guy who's arrested one morning, and we don't know what for. And then he's prosecuted, and we still don't know what for. And that's only the beginning. I mean, this story is weird. There's pornography, and people being whipped, and I think I would need some literary expert like flysack to fully explain it to me. But it's unforgettable even so. It's extremely disturbing (probably the most disturbing thing I've ever read). In a way, it reminded me of Alice In Wonderland, except there's no sense of wonder, only dread. In reading the Wikipedia writeup, I learned that Kafka didn't even want it published; I guess he was disturbed about it too. Anyhow, the whole book reads like a nightmare, and I have to admit it is a true work of art.

26.17 The Trial by Franz Kafka

[dora] oh man [/swiper]eta: was going to be my next novel selection :rats:

 

[krista4]

I'm going to stun flysack with this pick. I know I am.

Ever since college, I had grouped this author with guys I couldn't stand, like Joyce, Proust, Nabakov (I know, all the giants!) But this guy, who I never bothered to read, particularly annoyed me because I was in this short story creative writing class one semester, and there was this Irish guy who wore black turtlenecks and always had amazingly hot chicks on his arm that I could only dream of getting, and this poser used to recite poetry and everyone said about his writing, "Oh, Liam, you're so Kafkaesque!" Man I hated that ####er.

But you know what? Years later, I read this novel, and it was quite good. Actually, it was astonishingly good. And I realized it was Liam and his pretentiousness and ability to pick up women that I hated, not Kafka.

The story is about a guy who's arrested one morning, and we don't know what for. And then he's prosecuted, and we still don't know what for. And that's only the beginning. I mean, this story is weird. There's pornography, and people being whipped, and I think I would need some literary expert like flysack to fully explain it to me. But it's unforgettable even so. It's extremely disturbing (probably the most disturbing thing I've ever read). In a way, it reminded me of Alice In Wonderland, except there's no sense of wonder, only dread. In reading the Wikipedia writeup, I learned that Kafka didn't even want it published; I guess he was disturbed about it too. Anyhow, the whole book reads like a nightmare, and I have to admit it is a true work of art.

26.17 The Trial by Franz Kafka

[dora] oh man [/swiper]eta: was going to be my next novel selection :rats:

I was going to get there first. Sorry, guys, but it looks like rodg isn't here, and I need to get going. I'm also a bit thrown after the Trial-snipe. For the third day in a row, I guess I'll have first pick in the morning. Perhaps the pick will come to me in a dream.

ETA: Fennis, feel free to send me your pick if you'd like.

 

[Abrantes]

26.15 Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn's The Gulag Archipelago (Nonfiction)

FML

 

[anborn]

26.05 Are You Experienced by The Jimi Hendrix Experience (album)

norwood you are my hero.

 

[El Floppo]

26.15 Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn's The Gulag Archipelago (Nonfiction)

The power of Solzhenitsyn's account comes from revelation, not innovation. A world that had been heard about in fleeting glimpses, pieced together in one work in phenomenal physical and emotional detail. More vivid descriptions than you could possibly want - which makes it an even more fascinating read. Glad this is still here, 'cause my Nonfiction category is barren at the moment.

The Gulag Archipelago (Russian: Архипелаг ГУЛАГ, Arkhipelag GULAG) is a book by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn based on the Soviet forced labor and concentration camp system. The three-volume book is a massive narrative relying on eyewitness testimony and primary research material, as well as the author's own experiences as a prisoner in a Gulag labor camp. Written between 1958 and 1968 (dates given at the end of the book), it was published in the West in 1973, thereafter circulating in samizdat (underground publication) form in the Soviet Union until its official publication in 1989.

"GULag" is an acronym for the Russian term "Gulág", Glavnoye Upravleniye ispravitelno-trudovyh Lagerey, Russian for "Chief Administration of Corrective Labour Camps" (Главное Управление Исправительно Трудовых Лагерей), the bureaucratic name of the Soviet concentration camp main governing board, and by metonymy, the camp system itself. The original Russian title of the book is "Arkhipelag GULag", the rhyme supporting the underlying metaphor deployed throughout the work. The word archipelago compares the system of labor camps spread across the Soviet Union with a vast "chain of islands", known only to those who were fated to visit them.

FML

hmmmm- don't know this one at all. Once the kid turns 18, hopefully I'll have the energy to read a book. Don't know that I'll have the energy 16 years from to get through this particular book.

 

[anborn]

Gone With The Wind is hardly unwatchable. But it was taken by Doug B much earlier.

Picks like GWTW and I Love Lucy seem to be high on googled top 10 and top 100 lists. But do people actually still enjoy these works? To me, a great work should be timeless. These both seem severely dated IMO.

 

[Fennis]

oh waiting on flysack again. probably eating hotdogs and sneering at timschochet's literary preferences somewhere...like always.

As I posted last night, autoskip us, we'll catch up when one of us is around.I won't be like someguys and hold up the entire draft. Every. Friggin'. Turn. :(

which guy?

 

[wikkidpissah]

okay, I have to take this at some point...and since norwood took hendrix, I've realized that I need to get the things that I gotta have. So with that I would like to select my favorite television show of all time:

SOUTH PARK Trey Parker and Matt Stone 26.18

I remember the first episode. Four hilarious cussing kids getting abducted by aliens was pretty much the only thing I ever wanted to see. As I've grown with the show, it's become more purposeful in message and direction. It's broken boundaries that the Simpson and others never crossed. South Park is forever at the forefront of comedy and current issues. Years from now, the full impact of this show will be appreciated if it is not already.

Every Episode Ever Made.

as a lifelong student of the funny, i either appreciate the comedy in things or understand why other people do.......except with South Park. I've tried & tried & tried, cuz it's a favorite for an overwhelming majority of people with similar senses of humor to mine and.....................nuttin honey.

 

[TidesofWar]

Consider me pissed

I think having to be skipped so some cubicle-bound moocher can have something to do during bankers hours, besides what they are paid for, is BS.

And then they can disappear for 18 hours on a weekend, and all comes to a screeching halt.

I had 2 things I would have taken picked after my alloted draft position.

I will draft ZERO plays from here out

 

[Fennis]

I was waiting to see if BobbyLayne would show, but I'll go ahead and snag this gem -The Kaaba (or The Black Stone of Mecca) - Structure

Good pick, wasn't on my radar but should have been. I like this pick a lot.

 

[El Floppo]

I was waiting to see if BobbyLayne would show, but I'll go ahead and snag this gem -The Kaaba (or The Black Stone of Mecca) - Structure

Good pick, wasn't on my radar but should have been. I like this pick a lot.

I'm pretty sure I told you to button it, donkey. eta: ####er. ##########. etc

 

[rodg12]

Just got back from my softball game. Pick will be coming in 15 or so.

ETA: Sorry for the hold up.

 

[TidesofWar]

25.08 - Narrative of the life of Frederick Douglass - Non-Fiction

26.13 - The Scarlet Letter - Nathianel Hawthorne - Novel

 

[Fennis]

I was waiting to see if BobbyLayne would show, but I'll go ahead and snag this gem -The Kaaba (or The Black Stone of Mecca) - Structure

Good pick, wasn't on my radar but should have been. I like this pick a lot.

I'm pretty sure I told you to button it, donkey. eta: ####er. ##########. etc

I see you named your own alias after the draft you are having.:zing:

 

[TidesofWar]

I thought I asked NOT TO BE SKIPPED after the clock was off???

DAMN IT!!!!

 

[El Floppo]

I was waiting to see if BobbyLayne would show, but I'll go ahead and snag this gem -The Kaaba (or The Black Stone of Mecca) - Structure

Good pick, wasn't on my radar but should have been. I like this pick a lot.

I'm pretty sure I told you to button it, donkey. eta: ####er. ##########. etc

I see you named your own alias after the draft you are having.:zing:

wha....

 

[Fennis]

I thought I asked NOT TO BE SKIPPED after the clock was off??? DAMN IT!!!!

try getting skipped by a tyrannical draft dictator for posting a duplicate pick

 

[timschochet]

I thought I asked NOT TO BE SKIPPED after the clock was off??? DAMN IT!!!!

Tides, it's been a general rule that if you allow yourself to be skipped once, then if we come around to you a next time and you still haven't made your pick you're automatically skipped again. This has been the same for everyone.

 

[El Floppo]

I thought I asked NOT TO BE SKIPPED after the clock was off??? DAMN IT!!!!

Tides, it's been a general rule that if you allow yourself to be skipped once, then if we come around to you a next time and you still haven't made your pick you're automatically skipped again. This has been the same for everyone.

ok- see, now you're just making stuff up.

 

[rodg12]

26.19 - Forrest Gump by Tom Hanks in Forrest Gump - Acting Performance

One of the great American actors at his best. Love this movie and love Hanks' job in it.

 

[TidesofWar]

I thought I asked NOT TO BE SKIPPED after the clock was off??? DAMN IT!!!!

Tides, it's been a general rule that if you allow yourself to be skipped once, then if we come around to you a next time and you still haven't made your pick you're automatically skipped again. This has been the same for everyone.

Then I will not be skipped again.I missed two selections I wanted because I tried to be fair with people that are not willing to reciprocate. Why were they not skipped on the weekend???I said at the beginning the MON-FRI daytime clock was bogus, IMO.Once the clock is off, it should damn well be off.I vote if you are not going to be available on the weekends, youn should be skipped as well, to level the playing field.But that would not fare well with Krista and her desperate following

 

[rodg12]

I thought I asked NOT TO BE SKIPPED after the clock was off??? DAMN IT!!!!

Tides, it's been a general rule that if you allow yourself to be skipped once, then if we come around to you a next time and you still haven't made your pick you're automatically skipped again. This has been the same for everyone.

Then I will not be skipped again.I missed two selections I wanted because I tried to be fair with people that are not willing to reciprocate. Why were they not skipped on the weekend???I said at the beginning the MON-FRI daytime clock was bogus, IMO.Once the clock is off, it should damn well be off.I vote if you are not going to be available on the weekends, youn should be skipped as well, to level the playing field.But that would not fare well with Krista and her desperate following

Tides, my man, you would have been skipped both times if you'd requested it or not. If you hadn't requested to be skipped in round 25, you would have timed out because you were unavailable when you were on the clock. After you time out once, you will be skipped the next turn if it happens in the same day. Thems the breaks man.

 

[timschochet]

I thought I asked NOT TO BE SKIPPED after the clock was off??? DAMN IT!!!!

Tides, it's been a general rule that if you allow yourself to be skipped once, then if we come around to you a next time and you still haven't made your pick you're automatically skipped again. This has been the same for everyone.

Then I will not be skipped again.I missed two selections I wanted because I tried to be fair with people that are not willing to reciprocate. Why were they not skipped on the weekend???I said at the beginning the MON-FRI daytime clock was bogus, IMO.Once the clock is off, it should damn well be off.I vote if you are not going to be available on the weekends, youn should be skipped as well, to level the playing field.But that would not fare well with Krista and her desperate following

The reason the clock is off on the weekend is that many people are not here. I'm not able to follow your logic about "leveling the playing field".

 

[El Floppo]

I thought I asked NOT TO BE SKIPPED after the clock was off??? DAMN IT!!!!

Tides, it's been a general rule that if you allow yourself to be skipped once, then if we come around to you a next time and you still haven't made your pick you're automatically skipped again. This has been the same for everyone.

Then I will not be skipped again.I missed two selections I wanted because I tried to be fair with people that are not willing to reciprocate. Why were they not skipped on the weekend???I said at the beginning the MON-FRI daytime clock was bogus, IMO.Once the clock is off, it should damn well be off.I vote if you are not going to be available on the weekends, youn should be skipped as well, to level the playing field.But that would not fare well with Krista and her desperate following

The reason the clock is off on the weekend is that many people are not here. I'm not able to follow your logic about "leveling the playing field".

fwiw- I used to remember busy workdays... weekends and nights during those days were always easier times for me for this kind of thing... just saying I get what ToW is saying.

 

[TidesofWar]

I thought I asked NOT TO BE SKIPPED after the clock was off??? DAMN IT!!!!

Tides, it's been a general rule that if you allow yourself to be skipped once, then if we come around to you a next time and you still haven't made your pick you're automatically skipped again. This has been the same for everyone.

Then I will not be skipped again.I missed two selections I wanted because I tried to be fair with people that are not willing to reciprocate. Why were they not skipped on the weekend???I said at the beginning the MON-FRI daytime clock was bogus, IMO.Once the clock is off, it should damn well be off.I vote if you are not going to be available on the weekends, youn should be skipped as well, to level the playing field.But that would not fare well with Krista and her desperate following

The reason the clock is off on the weekend is that many people are not here. I'm not able to follow your logic about "leveling the playing field".

There are only 20 people drafting - how can "MANY" not be here???I maintain it is BS that the clock can be off for some, and on for others.Lead me down that path of logic, Spock.If I had not invested some of myself and my time, I would just write this off completely, but such is not the case.Leveling the playing field is really simple - if you are going to run roughshod through people's draft picks during bank tellers hours, why not do the same on weekends and holidays?

 

[TidesofWar]

I thought I asked NOT TO BE SKIPPED after the clock was off??? DAMN IT!!!!

Tides, it's been a general rule that if you allow yourself to be skipped once, then if we come around to you a next time and you still haven't made your pick you're automatically skipped again. This has been the same for everyone.

Then I will not be skipped again.I missed two selections I wanted because I tried to be fair with people that are not willing to reciprocate. Why were they not skipped on the weekend???I said at the beginning the MON-FRI daytime clock was bogus, IMO.Once the clock is off, it should damn well be off.I vote if you are not going to be available on the weekends, youn should be skipped as well, to level the playing field.But that would not fare well with Krista and her desperate following

Tides, my man, you would have been skipped both times if you'd requested it or not. If you hadn't requested to be skipped in round 25, you would have timed out because you were unavailable when you were on the clock. After you time out once, you will be skipped the next turn if it happens in the same day. Thems the breaks man.

Then it should happen every day, right?

 

[timschochet]

[Leveling the playing field is really simple - if you are going to run roughshod through people's draft picks during bank tellers hours, why not do the same on weekends and holidays?

But we do.If on the weekend, we were to come across somebody who had already skipped a pick, his or her next pick would be skipped as well. The rules are the same regarding skipped picks whether it's the weekend or not. I still don't understand why you think this is unfair to some and not others.

 

[timschochet]

I thought I asked NOT TO BE SKIPPED after the clock was off??? DAMN IT!!!!

Tides, it's been a general rule that if you allow yourself to be skipped once, then if we come around to you a next time and you still haven't made your pick you're automatically skipped again. This has been the same for everyone.

Then I will not be skipped again.I missed two selections I wanted because I tried to be fair with people that are not willing to reciprocate. Why were they not skipped on the weekend???I said at the beginning the MON-FRI daytime clock was bogus, IMO.Once the clock is off, it should damn well be off.I vote if you are not going to be available on the weekends, youn should be skipped as well, to level the playing field.But that would not fare well with Krista and her desperate following

Tides, my man, you would have been skipped both times if you'd requested it or not. If you hadn't requested to be skipped in round 25, you would have timed out because you were unavailable when you were on the clock. After you time out once, you will be skipped the next turn if it happens in the same day. Thems the breaks man.

Then it should happen every day, right?

It does.

 

[TidesofWar]

[Leveling the playing field is really simple - if you are going to run roughshod through people's draft picks during bank tellers hours, why not do the same on weekends and holidays?

But we do.If on the weekend, we were to come across somebody who had already skipped a pick, his or her next pick would be skipped as well. The rules are the same regarding skipped picks whether it's the weekend or not. I still don't understand why you think this is unfair to some and not others.

Because if they do not ask to be skipped - it comes to a standstill, as it did this past weekend

 

[Fennis]

note to self: 20 rounds is about the breaking point for a draft.

 

[timschochet]

Look, just to be clear, because I still don't understand the nature of Tides of War's complaint:

Let's suppose timschochet at pick 25.04 times out, or asks to be autoskipped for that pick. And let's suppose that I don't show up, and then it comes to me again, for pick # 25.17. This could happen during the weekday, or weeknight, or weekend, or the middle of the night. It doesn't matter when it happens. If it comes to me again, and I already missed my previous pick for whatever reason, the next person at 25.18 can skip right over me. This is the same rule for everyone in the draft at anytime. So the playing field is already level, IMO. What am I doing wrong here?

 

[timschochet]

[Leveling the playing field is really simple - if you are going to run roughshod through people's draft picks during bank tellers hours, why not do the same on weekends and holidays?

But we do.If on the weekend, we were to come across somebody who had already skipped a pick, his or her next pick would be skipped as well. The rules are the same regarding skipped picks whether it's the weekend or not. I still don't understand why you think this is unfair to some and not others.

Because if they do not ask to be skipped - it comes to a standstill, as it did this past weekend

But then it comes to a standstill for everyone. That kind of sucks, but how is it unfair?

 

[TidesofWar]

Look, just to be clear, because I still don't understand the nature of Tides of War's complaint:Let's suppose timschochet at pick 25.04 times out, or asks to be autoskipped for that pick. And let's suppose that I don't show up, and then it comes to me again, for pick # 25.17. This could happen during the weekday, or weeknight, or weekend, or the middle of the night. It doesn't matter when it happens. If it comes to me again, and I already missed my previous pick for whatever reason, the next person at 25.18 can skip right over me. This is the same rule for everyone in the draft at anytime. So the playing field is already level, IMO. What am I doing wrong here?

If its your pick, and the clock is off, then no one else can pick, right?? If you have not missed a pick or timed out??If the above is wrong, why were there like 4 or 5 picks a day over last weekend, if memory serves?What you posted above intimates there is a clock or protocol for this 24/7, and that is not the case

 

[TidesofWar]

[Leveling the playing field is really simple - if you are going to run roughshod through people's draft picks during bank tellers hours, why not do the same on weekends and holidays?

But we do.If on the weekend, we were to come across somebody who had already skipped a pick, his or her next pick would be skipped as well. The rules are the same regarding skipped picks whether it's the weekend or not. I still don't understand why you think this is unfair to some and not others.

Because if they do not ask to be skipped - it comes to a standstill, as it did this past weekend

But then it comes to a standstill for everyone. That kind of sucks, but how is it unfair?

Because today it did NOT come to a standstill for everyone - I know you are not this obtuse

 

[Abrantes]

I have no dog in this race, since I'm typically close enough to the computer for a pick, but I can see where Tides is coming from, as he's upset that those without the luxury of checking in during the week do get the shaft and have to watch picks trickling in slowly during the weekend. Not sure if you'll get people to agree on changes almost halfway through the draft, but I'm easy. Whatever brings us to a satisfactory compromise.

I will say that the best solution is typically sending PMs with picks to people who are always around, though. Clunky, but less messy.

 

[El Floppo]

Look, just to be clear, because I still don't understand the nature of Tides of War's complaint:Let's suppose timschochet at pick 25.04 times out, or asks to be autoskipped for that pick. And let's suppose that I don't show up, and then it comes to me again, for pick # 25.17. This could happen during the weekday, or weeknight, or weekend, or the middle of the night. It doesn't matter when it happens. If it comes to me again, and I already missed my previous pick for whatever reason, the next person at 25.18 can skip right over me. This is the same rule for everyone in the draft at anytime. So the playing field is already level, IMO. What am I doing wrong here?

You've got to back it up a bit- I think what ToW is saying is that some of us (not me ) have busy work days where checking in regularly is impossible. Weekends and nights are easier times for those folk to pick. But the clock is ticking and favors the people who are capable of checking in regularly during the workday, yet shuts off during the weekend and nights- thus the disparity.Or at least, that's how I'm reading things.

 

[TidesofWar]

Look, just to be clear, because I still don't understand the nature of Tides of War's complaint:Let's suppose timschochet at pick 25.04 times out, or asks to be autoskipped for that pick. And let's suppose that I don't show up, and then it comes to me again, for pick # 25.17. This could happen during the weekday, or weeknight, or weekend, or the middle of the night. It doesn't matter when it happens. If it comes to me again, and I already missed my previous pick for whatever reason, the next person at 25.18 can skip right over me. This is the same rule for everyone in the draft at anytime. So the playing field is already level, IMO. What am I doing wrong here?

You've got to back it up a bit- I think what ToW is saying is that some of us (not me ) have busy work days where checking in regularly is impossible. Weekends and nights are easier times for those folk to pick. But the clock is ticking and favors the people who are capable of checking in regularly during the workday, yet shuts off during the weekend and nights- thus the disparity.Or at least, that's how I'm reading things.

You have read correctly, and I thank you for putting it into better composition than I have

 

[timschochet]

Because today it did NOT come to a standstill for everyone - I know you are not this obtuse

The reason it did not come to standstill for you, after hours, is because you had already skipped a pick. If you had not already skipped a pick, then it would have come to a standstill for you. I don't know how I can make this any more clear. It does come to a standstill on the weekend for those who are not here AND had not already missed a pick. If they had already missed a pick, it would not have come to a standstill for them either. They will be skipped over, regardless of whether the clock is on or not. Does this makes sense?

 

[TidesofWar]

Because today it did NOT come to a standstill for everyone - I know you are not this obtuse

The reason it did not come to standstill for you, after hours, is because you had already skipped a pick. If you had not already skipped a pick, then it would have come to a standstill for you. I don't know how I can make this any more clear. It does come to a standstill on the weekend for those who are not here AND had not already missed a pick. If they had already missed a pick, it would not have come to a standstill for them either. They will be skipped over, regardless of whether the clock is on or not. Does this makes sense?

No - Who's on First?

 

[El Floppo]

Because today it did NOT come to a standstill for everyone - I know you are not this obtuse

The reason it did not come to standstill for you, after hours, is because you had already skipped a pick. If you had not already skipped a pick, then it would have come to a standstill for you. I don't know how I can make this any more clear. It does come to a standstill on the weekend for those who are not here AND had not already missed a pick. If they had already missed a pick, it would not have come to a standstill for them either. They will be skipped over, regardless of whether the clock is on or not. Does this makes sense?

Isn't there a way of just turning the miss your pick thing off on nights/weekends if the picker requests it? Seems like that would resolve this whole thing.Granted, if that person then goes on to hold things up- spanking machine for them.

 

[Fennis]

25.08 - Narrative of the life of Frederick Douglass - Non-Fiction

26.13 - The Scarlet Letter - Nathianel Hawthorne - Novel

Good picks. Far better than picks anyone has taken while you were gone today.