Official Great Works Draft (5 Viewers)

[Bonzai]

You're not going to endear him to SPLHCB by citing Rolling Stone. Get something from Pitchfork and you're cooking with gas. Maybe you could find David Yow saying something nice about the record. Good luck.

 

[Yankee23Fan]

Still missing 1 here (Abrantes, right?).... final chance at comments

Tier 1 (top tier)

Discourse on the Method

The Social Contract

Republicanism

Free Markets

Natural Rights (Inalienable Rights of Man)

Tier 2

Democracy

Ethics

Common Law

Civil/Political Rights

Tier 3

Tao

Separation of Church and State

Nonviolence

Rationalism

Existentialism

Tier 4

Dialectic

The Separation of Powers (Executive, Legislative, Judicial)

The Ethic of Reciprocity (The Golden Rule)

Feminism

Scientism

 

[krista4]

You're not going to endear him to SPLHCB by citing Rolling Stone. Get something from Pitchfork and you're cooking with gas. Maybe you could find David Yow saying something nice about the record. Good luck.

 

[krista4]

tim, I asked this yesterday but it got lost in the shuffle: what are we doing about our MIA amigos that owe picks? Abrantes is around, and I think all El Floppo owes are buildings/structures, which he is judging anyway, so I guess I just mean thatguy. Should we leave his picks out of our rankings, or are we going on the assumption he'll show up at some point?

 

[DCThunder]

Yankee, do you subscribe to the notion that the Magna Carta was the foundation for Common Law in England?

If so, how can the foundation document be a Tier 1, (#2 overall) document, yet the resultant philospphy be a Tier 2? Tiers of a Clown, perhaps?

 

[Frostillicus]

We should have a separate draft just of poems that are great to hear.

OUT

Hey, was that line in your sig directed at you or someone else?

Me. I love it so much, I am thinking of getting a tattoo version so I can preserve it.

FYI - If you search for the word "Utopian" in Chadstroma posts, it comes up with five different threads. I think he likes that word a lot.

 

[Yankee23Fan]

Yankee, do you subscribe to the notion that the Magna Carta was the foundation for Common Law in England?If so, how can the foundation document be a Tier 1, (#2 overall) document, yet the resultant philospphy be a Tier 2? Tiers of a Clown, perhaps?

I haven't done any modifications to the tiers for discussion purposes but my initial typed rankings have some minor changes. I've got your point, noted several times. And I agree with you in most respects.

 

[DCThunder]

Yankee, do you subscribe to the notion that the Magna Carta was the foundation for Common Law in England?If so, how can the foundation document be a Tier 1, (#2 overall) document, yet the resultant philospphy be a Tier 2? Tiers of a Clown, perhaps?

I haven't done any modifications to the tiers for discussion purposes but my initial typed rankings have some minor changes. I've got your point, noted several times. And I agree with you in most respects.

Did I make that point before? :innocently confused:

 

[Yankee23Fan]

Yankee, do you subscribe to the notion that the Magna Carta was the foundation for Common Law in England?If so, how can the foundation document be a Tier 1, (#2 overall) document, yet the resultant philospphy be a Tier 2? Tiers of a Clown, perhaps?

I haven't done any modifications to the tiers for discussion purposes but my initial typed rankings have some minor changes. I've got your point, noted several times. And I agree with you in most respects.

Did I make that point before? :innocently confused:

What would you knock out of the top tier to put it there?

 

[DCThunder]

Yankee, do you subscribe to the notion that the Magna Carta was the foundation for Common Law in England?If so, how can the foundation document be a Tier 1, (#2 overall) document, yet the resultant philospphy be a Tier 2? Tiers of a Clown, perhaps?

I haven't done any modifications to the tiers for discussion purposes but my initial typed rankings have some minor changes. I've got your point, noted several times. And I agree with you in most respects.

Did I make that point before? :innocently confused:

What would you knock out of the top tier to put it there?

I know it's almost heresy, but Free Markets or Discourse on the Method.You can have Common Law without Free markets, but not Free Markets without Common Law.

 

[Yankee23Fan]

Yankee, do you subscribe to the notion that the Magna Carta was the foundation for Common Law in England?If so, how can the foundation document be a Tier 1, (#2 overall) document, yet the resultant philospphy be a Tier 2? Tiers of a Clown, perhaps?

I haven't done any modifications to the tiers for discussion purposes but my initial typed rankings have some minor changes. I've got your point, noted several times. And I agree with you in most respects.

Did I make that point before? :innocently confused:

What would you knock out of the top tier to put it there?

I know it's almost heresy, but Free Markets or Discourse on the Method.You can have Common Law without Free markets, but not Free Markets without Common Law.

I don't know if I go so far as heresy, but to me the weakest of the top tier initially was The Social Contract. It's too much of a variation on the theme - actually many of these selections are.

 

[TidesofWar]

You're not going to endear him to SPLHCB by citing Rolling Stone. Get something from Pitchfork and you're cooking with gas. Maybe you could find David Yow saying something nice about the record. Good luck.

But unfortunately, most of the counter-culture and anti-establishment types will not help my cause.BECAUSE Sgt. Peppers has been so widely acclaimed, there is an element who will attck and castigate it, in order to be different, and cry for attention.This from something called warr.org, mentioning some connections between Revolver and SPLHCB.

Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (1967) - The most famous rock record in history, and it deserves most of the acclaim. What seems to have been forgotten in all the hoopla is that the songs mostly just expand and consolidate earlier innovations that were played out on Revolver - showcases of complex orchestration ("A Day In The Life"), abrasive, slice-of-life rockers ("Good Morning Good Morning"), giddy 60s anthems ("It's Getting Better"), bizarre studio experiments ("Being For The Benefit Of Mr. Kite"), George's Indian-influenced pearls of wisdom ("Within You Without You"), and especially the lush psychedelia that John had mastered ("Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds"). Even "She's Leaving Home" is a bathetic rip-off of the more sincere "Eleanor Rigby," and the title track's booming, unstoppable herd- of-elephants sound is mirrored by "Taxman." Say what you might, though, the record did blow open the 60s like a double-strength hit of Purple Haze. (JA) - There are a few significant things about this album that Alroy hasn't mentioned. It is the first Beatles album conceived as an album, not just a bunch of songs (their first released identically in the US and the UK), and the first rock album where the songs blend into each other with no breaks. Also, while it's not true that there are no love songs here ("Lovely Rita" and "Getting Better" both have romantic aspects) it's lyrically far removed from the boy-girl topics that dominated the Beatles output through Revolver. And Revolver's experimentalism produces consistently musical results here -- in my book that's a major advance. (DBW)

 

[Abrantes]

You're not going to endear him to SPLHCB by citing Rolling Stone. Get something from Pitchfork and you're cooking with gas. Maybe you could find David Yow saying something nice about the record. Good luck.

But unfortunately, most of the counter-culture and anti-establishment types will not help my cause.BECAUSE Sgt. Peppers has been so widely acclaimed, there is an element who will attck and castigate it, in order to be different, and cry for attention.

Why should attacks on Sgt. Pepper's be dismissed as a simple cry for attention, when even you admit to not liking it at all?

 

[Postradamus]

I'll be doing acting prelims soon. Get ready!!!

 

[krista4]

I'll be doing acting prelims soon. Get ready!!!

 

[Yankee23Fan]

I'm having a hard time doing extensive write ups for the ideas. And the rankings suck right now. I keep changing my mind.

I think, overall, I'm giving more weight to political idea that led to something tangible over philosophical ideas which really didn't. At least, to me. That's why the initial tiers were set up the way they were and as I keep going through them I keep changing my mind. Not fun.

 

[Fennis]

We should have a separate draft just of poems that are great to hear.

OUT

Hey, was that line in your sig directed at you or someone else?

Me. I love it so much, I am thinking of getting a tattoo version so I can preserve it.

FYI - If you search for the word "Utopian" in Chadstroma posts, it comes up with five different threads. I think he likes that word a lot.

Thanks for raining on my parade.

 

[Postradamus]

Initial movie tiers. These are very much open to comment. I've moved things around so many times my head is spinning. The listings within the tiers are not in order:

Tier 1:

Citizen Kane

Casablanca

The Godfather

Seven Samurai

The Battleship Potemkin

Vertigo

Rear Window

Singin’ in the Rain too high

Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs too high

The Rules of the Game

Chinatown

The Third Man

City Lights

Schindler’s List

2001: A Space Odyssey too high

Bicycle Thieves

Dr Strangelove

The Wizard of Oz

Modern Times

The Searchers - definitely too high, I'm no John Wayne fan, not in my top 3 westerns.

Tier 2:

Lawrence of Arabia too low

Aguirre, The Wrath of God

The Battle of Algiers

M

North by Northwest

Star Wars too low

The Godfather, Part II too low

Some Like It Hot

Gone with the Wind

Raging Bull too low

Psycho

Blade Runner

Pulp Fiction

The Gold Rush too high

Apocalypse Now too low

It’s a Wonderful Life

On the Waterfront

Sunset Boulevard

The Silence of the Lambs

Unforgiven

Tier 3:

E.T.

Jaws too high

Rocky too high

The Shawshank Redemption

Notorious

The Last Picture Show

Ben-Hur

The Empire Strikes Back too low

The Graduate

Ikiru

The Deer Hunter

The Good, The Bad and the Ugly too low

Throne of Blood

Cinema Paradiso

The Treasure of the Sierra Madre

Through a Glass Darkly

The Exorcist too high

Midnight Express

The Maltese Falcon

Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid

The Outlaw Josie Wales

12 Angry Men

Tier 4:

Castle in the Sky

Gettysburg

The Longest Day

Reservoir Dogs

Scarface

Monty Python and the Holy Grail too low? IDK

Alien

The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King

The Jazz Singer

The Sting

Die Hard

Pinocchio

The Usual Suspects

Patton

These are my initial, biased reactions.There are so many great movies that weren't taken. I find myself slapping my forehead looking back.

 

[Yankee23Fan]

Tier 1

Discourse on the Method

Free Markets

Common Law

Natural Rights (Inalienable Rights of Man)

Republicanism

Tier 2

Democracy

The Social Contract

Ethics

Civil/Political Rights

Tao

Tier 3

Separation of Church and State

Nonviolence

Rationalism

Existentialism

The Separation of Powers (Executive, Legislative, Judicial)

Tier 4

The Ethic of Reciprocity (The Golden Rule)

Dialectic

Feminism

Scientism

Here is where I'm sitting now..........

 

[timschochet]

tim, I asked this yesterday but it got lost in the shuffle: what are we doing about our MIA amigos that owe picks? Abrantes is around, and I think all El Floppo owes are buildings/structures, which he is judging anyway, so I guess I just mean thatguy. Should we leave his picks out of our rankings, or are we going on the assumption he'll show up at some point?

The deadline has passed. At this point feel free to do the judging. If thatguy comes in later you can evaluate his picks separately.

 

[TidesofWar]

You're not going to endear him to SPLHCB by citing Rolling Stone. Get something from Pitchfork and you're cooking with gas. Maybe you could find David Yow saying something nice about the record. Good luck.

But unfortunately, most of the counter-culture and anti-establishment types will not help my cause.BECAUSE Sgt. Peppers has been so widely acclaimed, there is an element who will attck and castigate it, in order to be different, and cry for attention.

Why should attacks on Sgt. Pepper's be dismissed as a simple cry for attention, when even you admit to not liking it at all?

Simple analogy - I do not like Michael Jordan.I acknowledge and recognize his ability and greatness.

 

[jmp]

Initial movie tiers. These are very much open to comment. I've moved things around so many times my head is spinning. The listings within the tiers are not in order:

Tier 4:

Castle in the Sky

Gettysburg

The Longest Day

Reservoir Dogs

Scarface

Monty Python and the Holy Grail too low? IDK

Alien

The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King

The Jazz Singer

The Sting

Die Hard

Pinocchio

The Usual Suspects

Patton

These are my initial, biased reactions.There are so many great movies that weren't taken. I find myself slapping my forehead looking back.

It's an acquired taste I suppose. I did think the number one comedy of all time would do better.

 

[Yankee23Fan]

Non Fiction Book By tim ------------------------ initial tiers

Novel Postradamus ----------------------------- nothing yet

Short Story Oliver Humanzee ------------------- nothing yet

Poem Postradamus ------------------------------ initial tiers

Philosophical/Political Idea Yankee23fan ------ initial tiers

Scientific Discovery Big Rocks------------------ nothing yet

Invention Steve Tasker------------------------- nothing yet

Painting BobbyLayne---------------------------- initial tiers

Movie Krista4 ------------------------------------ initial tiers

Documentary FilmsKrista4 ---------------------- DONE

Television Show Yankee23fan ------------------- initial tiers

Acting Performance postradamus --------------- nothing yet

Building/Structure El Floppo --------------------- nothing yet

Sculpture the moops ----------------------------- nothing yet

Plays timschochet --------------------------------- initial tiers

Composition Misfit Blondes ---------------------- nothing yet

Song Uncle Humuna ------------------------------ nothin gyet

Album Oliver Humanzee ------------------------- initial tiers

Sports Record DC Thunder ---------------------- initial tiers

Political Document Yankee23fan ---------------- DONE

Wildcard timschochet ---------------------------- initial tiers

Is this correct? Where are all the judges?

 

[krista4]

Initial movie tiers. These are very much open to comment. I've moved things around so many times my head is spinning. The listings within the tiers are not in order:

Tier 4:

Castle in the Sky

Gettysburg

The Longest Day

Reservoir Dogs

Scarface

Monty Python and the Holy Grail too low? IDK

Alien

The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King

The Jazz Singer

The Sting

Die Hard

Pinocchio

The Usual Suspects

Patton

These are my initial, biased reactions.There are so many great movies that weren't taken. I find myself slapping my forehead looking back.

It's an acquired taste I suppose. I did think the number one comedy of all time would do better.

If this were true, it would.Welcome back! There was someone in here pretending to be you for the past several weeks.

 

[Yankee23Fan]

Scientific Discovery Big Rocks------------------ nothing yetInvention Steve Tasker------------------------- nothing yetBuilding/Structure El Floppo --------------------- nothing yetSculpture the moops ----------------------------- nothing yet

Have these guys been here lately? When do we worry and change judges?

 

[jmp]

Initial movie tiers. These are very much open to comment. I've moved things around so many times my head is spinning. The listings within the tiers are not in order:

Tier 4:

Castle in the Sky

Gettysburg

The Longest Day

Reservoir Dogs

Scarface

Monty Python and the Holy Grail too low? IDK

Alien

The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King

The Jazz Singer

The Sting

Die Hard

Pinocchio

The Usual Suspects

Patton

These are my initial, biased reactions.There are so many great movies that weren't taken. I find myself slapping my forehead looking back.

It's an acquired taste I suppose. I did think the number one comedy of all time would do better.

If this were true, it would.Welcome back! There was someone in here pretending to be you for the past several weeks.

Thanks! What do you think is the best comedy of all time?

 

[Tirnan]

MisfitBlondes' Pick

60.07 Scientism (Philosophical Idea)

The term scientism is used to describe the view that natural science has authority over all other interpretations of life, such as philosophical, religious, mythical, spiritual, or humanistic explanations, and over other fields of inquiry, such as the social sciences. The term is used by social scientists like Hayek or Karl Popper to describe what they see as the underlying attitudes and beliefs common to many scientists. They tend to use the term in either of two equally pejorative directions:

1. To indicate the improper usage of science or scientific claims. as a counter-argument to appeals to scientific authority in contexts where science might not apply, such as when the topic is perceived to be beyond the scope of scientific inquiry.

2. To refer to "the belief that the methods of natural science, or the categories and things recognized in natural science, form the only proper elements in any philosophical or other inquiry," with a concomitant "elimination of the psychological dimensions of experience". It thus expresses a position critical of (at least the more extreme expressions of) positivism.

In its most extreme form, scientism is the faith that science has no boundaries, that in due time all human problems and all aspects of human endeavor will be dealt and solved by science alone.

"In essence, scientism sees science as the absolute and only justifiable access to the truth."

Not to get snooty (well, actually..) but I don't think this means what you think it does. Scientism is not a view that many take seriously, even the most hard core of scientists.

I disagree. I would even go so far as to say most people rely on science over traditional religion for interpretation of events in the modern era. For example, angels and atoms. Most people have never seen either, but willingly agree to accept these as true items based on their viewpoint. Scientism is a great pick and I think may be the single most prevalent religion of our era. Grats to the team of Chawa and MfB.To go a step further to make a point. The vast majority of the sheeple are so ignorant that they will simply follow the viewpoints fed to them blindly. they know nothing of evolution, sub atomic particles, quantum mechanics, or even simple biology, yet their in home evangelical (TV) will tell them what and how to believe. They take the existance of atoms on the same blind faith that others take the existence of angels. Tell me who the real fool is in this scenario?

 

[krista4]

Initial movie tiers. These are very much open to comment. I've moved things around so many times my head is spinning. The listings within the tiers are not in order:

Tier 4:

Castle in the Sky

Gettysburg

The Longest Day

Reservoir Dogs

Scarface

Monty Python and the Holy Grail too low? IDK

Alien

The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King

The Jazz Singer

The Sting

Die Hard

Pinocchio

The Usual Suspects

Patton

These are my initial, biased reactions.There are so many great movies that weren't taken. I find myself slapping my forehead looking back.

It's an acquired taste I suppose. I did think the number one comedy of all time would do better.

If this were true, it would.Welcome back! There was someone in here pretending to be you for the past several weeks.

Thanks! What do you think is the best comedy of all time?

I see you get the point. What you think is the best comedy of all time doesn't matter, nor does it matter what I think is the best comedy. Unlike, for instance, Citizen Kane being the best movie of all time, for which there is a general critical consensus (although it would not top my list), there is nothing close to consensus about what is the best comedy. In fact, a quick use of the search function here will find many, many threads devoted to debating just that question. Likewise, a google search will find you many different "expert" lists, none of which come anywhere near agreement.

 

[jmp]

It's an acquired taste I suppose. I did think the number one comedy of all time would do better.

If this were true, it would.Welcome back! There was someone in here pretending to be you for the past several weeks.

Thanks! What do you think is the best comedy of all time?

I see you get the point. What you think is the best comedy of all time doesn't matter, nor does it matter what I think is the best comedy. Unlike, for instance, Citizen Kane being the best movie of all time, for which there is a general critical consensus (although it would not top my list), there is nothing close to consensus about what is the best comedy. In fact, a quick use of the search function here will find many, many threads devoted to debating just that question. Likewise, a google search will find you many different "expert" lists, none of which come anywhere near agreement.

I really was just curious to what you thought was the best comedy. Just the title would have been a much shorter and simpler response.

 

[Postradamus]

jeebus these acting tiers are driving me batty...I'll get back at it later so my brain doesn't melt.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

It's an acquired taste I suppose. I did think the number one comedy of all time would do better.

was The Jerk drafted?

 

[krista4]

It's an acquired taste I suppose. I did think the number one comedy of all time would do better.

If this were true, it would.Welcome back! There was someone in here pretending to be you for the past several weeks.

Thanks! What do you think is the best comedy of all time?

I see you get the point. What you think is the best comedy of all time doesn't matter, nor does it matter what I think is the best comedy. Unlike, for instance, Citizen Kane being the best movie of all time, for which there is a general critical consensus (although it would not top my list), there is nothing close to consensus about what is the best comedy. In fact, a quick use of the search function here will find many, many threads devoted to debating just that question. Likewise, a google search will find you many different "expert" lists, none of which come anywhere near agreement.

I really was just curious to what you thought was the best comedy. Just the title would have been a much shorter and simpler response.

Gigli

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

jeebus these acting tiers are driving me batty...I'll get back at it later so my brain doesn't melt.

1. put them in excel2. sort them in random order3. post results as final rankings4. defend vigorously

 

[jmp]

If this were true, it would.

Welcome back! There was someone in here pretending to be you for the past several weeks.

Thanks! What do you think is the best comedy of all time?

I see you get the point. What you think is the best comedy of all time doesn't matter, nor does it matter what I think is the best comedy. Unlike, for instance, Citizen Kane being the best movie of all time, for which there is a general critical consensus (although it would not top my list), there is nothing close to consensus about what is the best comedy. In fact, a quick use of the search function here will find many, many threads devoted to debating just that question. Likewise, a google search will find you many different "expert" lists, none of which come anywhere near agreement.

I really was just curious to what you thought was the best comedy. Just the title would have been a much shorter and simpler response.

Gigli

I am sorry if I am being ignorant here but it there something wrong with my question? I'm just gauging a bit. I won't even reply, I just want to know.

 

[Abrantes]

I'd nominate Duck Soup for best comedy, and it sucks that I (or other drafters) couldn't find the room for it.

 

[Postradamus]

I'd nominate Duck Soup for best comedy, and it sucks that I (or other drafters) couldn't find the room for it.

that is one I'm very surprised wasn't taken

 

[TidesofWar]

I see you get the point. What you think is the best comedy of all time doesn't matter, nor does it matter what I think is the best comedy. Unlike, for instance, Citizen Kane being the best movie of all time, for which there is a general critical consensus (although it would not top my list), there is nothing close to consensus about what is the best comedy. In fact, a quick use of the search function here will find many, many threads devoted to debating just that question. Likewise, a google search will find you many different "expert" lists, none of which come anywhere near agreement.

EXACTLY ^^^^ If I might take a small liberty or two, and mayhaps one of the judges will see this post, and then the light.......................

I see you get the point. What you think is the best comedy of all time doesn't matter, nor does it matter what I think is the best comedy. Unlike, for instance, SGT Peppers being one of the best albums of all time, for which there is a general critical consensus (although it would not top my list), there is nothing close to consensus about what is the best comedy. In fact, a quick use of the search function here will find many, many threads devoted to debating just that question. Likewise, a google search will find you many different "expert" lists, none of which come anywhere near agreement.

 

[krista4]

I see you get the point. What you think is the best comedy of all time doesn't matter, nor does it matter what I think is the best comedy. Unlike, for instance, Citizen Kane being the best movie of all time, for which there is a general critical consensus (although it would not top my list), there is nothing close to consensus about what is the best comedy. In fact, a quick use of the search function here will find many, many threads devoted to debating just that question. Likewise, a google search will find you many different "expert" lists, none of which come anywhere near agreement.

I really was just curious to what you thought was the best comedy. Just the title would have been a much shorter and simpler response.

Gigli

I am sorry if I am being ignorant here but it there something wrong with my question? I'm just gauging a bit. I won't even reply, I just want to know.

I don't have a favorite comedy or one I would call "best". I'm not sure I could even get down to a top five.

 

[Uncle Humuna]

I'd nominate Duck Soup for best comedy, and it sucks that I (or other drafters) couldn't find the room for it.

that is one I'm very surprised wasn't taken

Well that covers a lot of ground.Say, you yourself cover a lot of ground.

You better beat it.

I hear they're going to tear you down and put up an office building where you're standing.

You can leave in a taxi.

If you can't get a taxi, you can leave in a huff.

If that's too soon, you can leave in a minute and a huff.

You know something, you haven't stopped talking since I came here.

You must have been vaccinated with a phonograph needle.

 

[timschochet]

My top ten comedies with sound: (some brilliant guy did take The Gold Rush, after all) in no particular order:

Airplane

Some Like It Hot

Tootsie

Monty Python and the Holy Grail

It's A Mad Mad Mad Mad World

Animal House

Blazing Saddles

Annie Hall

Manhattan

Dr. Strangelove

 

[Uncle Humuna]

60.08 Wilt Chamberlain Has Sex with 20,000 Women (Wildcard)

In his 1991 biography, A View From Above, Wilt Chamberlain wrote that he had had sex with approximately 20,000 women. "At my age," he wrote, "that equals out to having sex with 1.2 women a day, every day since I was fifteen years old." Chamberlain's claims ignited a wave of public criticism (and skepticism), to which he responded, "I don't see all this lovemaking as any kind of conquest; all I'm saying is that I like women, people are curious about my sex life, and to most people the number of women who have come and gone through my bedrooms (and various hotel rooms around the country) would boggle the mind."

"I was just doing what was natural - chasing good-looking ladies, whoever they were and wherever they were available" and pointed out he never started a relationship with a married woman.

 

[krista4]

60.08 Wilt Chamberlain Has Sex with 20,000 Women (Wildcard)

In his 1991 biography, A View From Above, Wilt Chamberlain wrote that he had had sex with approximately 20,000 women. "At my age," he wrote, "that equals out to having sex with 1.2 women a day, every day since I was fifteen years old." Chamberlain's claims ignited a wave of public criticism (and skepticism), to which he responded, "I don't see all this lovemaking as any kind of conquest; all I'm saying is that I like women, people are curious about my sex life, and to most people the number of women who have come and gone through my bedrooms (and various hotel rooms around the country) would boggle the mind."

"I was just doing what was natural - chasing good-looking ladies, whoever they were and wherever they were available" and pointed out he never started a relationship with a married woman.

 

[ScottNorwood]

great performance. sports record

 

[Bonzai]

MisfitBlondes' Pick

60.07 Scientism (Philosophical Idea)

The term scientism is used to describe the view that natural science has authority over all other interpretations of life, such as philosophical, religious, mythical, spiritual, or humanistic explanations, and over other fields of inquiry, such as the social sciences. The term is used by social scientists like Hayek or Karl Popper to describe what they see as the underlying attitudes and beliefs common to many scientists. They tend to use the term in either of two equally pejorative directions:

1. To indicate the improper usage of science or scientific claims. as a counter-argument to appeals to scientific authority in contexts where science might not apply, such as when the topic is perceived to be beyond the scope of scientific inquiry.

2. To refer to "the belief that the methods of natural science, or the categories and things recognized in natural science, form the only proper elements in any philosophical or other inquiry," with a concomitant "elimination of the psychological dimensions of experience". It thus expresses a position critical of (at least the more extreme expressions of) positivism.

In its most extreme form, scientism is the faith that science has no boundaries, that in due time all human problems and all aspects of human endeavor will be dealt and solved by science alone.

"In essence, scientism sees science as the absolute and only justifiable access to the truth."

Not to get snooty (well, actually..) but I don't think this means what you think it does. Scientism is not a view that many take seriously, even the most hard core of scientists.

I disagree. I would even go so far as to say most people rely on science over traditional religion for interpretation of events in the modern era. For example, angels and atoms. Most people have never seen either, but willingly agree to accept these as true items based on their viewpoint. Scientism is a great pick and I think may be the single most prevalent religion of our era. Grats to the team of Chawa and MfB.To go a step further to make a point. The vast majority of the sheeple are so ignorant that they will simply follow the viewpoints fed to them blindly. they know nothing of evolution, sub atomic particles, quantum mechanics, or even simple biology, yet their in home evangelical (TV) will tell them what and how to believe. They take the existance of atoms on the same blind faith that others take the existence of angels. Tell me who the real fool is in this scenario?

We have good reason to trust the word of scientists. They've been pretty good to us. Plus, if we're truly suspicious, we can become scientists and conduct the experiments ourselves. They have no place to hide. However, science still has limits, and even the best scientists (particularly the best scientists) will tell you that.

 

[wikkidpissah]

60.08 Wilt Chamberlain Has Sex with 20,000 Women (Wildcard)

In his 1991 biography, A View From Above, Wilt Chamberlain wrote that he had had sex with approximately 20,000 women. "At my age," he wrote, "that equals out to having sex with 1.2 women a day, every day since I was fifteen years old." Chamberlain's claims ignited a wave of public criticism (and skepticism), to which he responded, "I don't see all this lovemaking as any kind of conquest; all I'm saying is that I like women, people are curious about my sex life, and to most people the number of women who have come and gone through my bedrooms (and various hotel rooms around the country) would boggle the mind."

"I was just doing what was natural - chasing good-looking ladies, whoever they were and wherever they were available" and pointed out he never started a relationship with a married woman.

from resurrection to reams-o-erections. stylish.Strangelove greatest film, greatest comedy, cept its not a comedy. Producers (orig) greatest pure comedy. album ratings suck. film @ 11. nufced

 

[timschochet]

I would like to disqualify Wilt's feat but I can see no reason to do so, except that we have no evidence it actually happened (except his word.) But even that's not enough, because though his numbers may be off, it's quite certain that Chamberlain had an incredible amount of sex during his lifetime, and the 20,000 number is purely representative of whatever the real number is. So this is a human achievement, and I will attempt to judge it as compared to the other wildcards.

 

[wikkidpissah]

I would like to disqualify Wilt's feat but I can see no reason to do so, except that we have no evidence it actually happened (except his word.) But even that's not enough, because though his numbers may be off, it's quite certain that Chamberlain had an incredible amount of sex during his lifetime, and the 20,000 number is purely representative of whatever the real number is. So this is a human achievement, and I will attempt to judge it as compared to the other wildcards.

it's just like Citizen Kane. One of the greatest individual accomplishments of all time. don't mean i wanna watch it, tho....

 

[Yankee23Fan]

I would like to disqualify Wilt's feat but I can see no reason to do so, except that we have no evidence it actually happened (except his word.) But even that's not enough, because though his numbers may be off, it's quite certain that Chamberlain had an incredible amount of sex during his lifetime, and the 20,000 number is purely representative of whatever the real number is. So this is a human achievement, and I will attempt to judge it as compared to the other wildcards.

Not only that, but it's tier 1 material.Ask any guy that accomplished any of the other wildcards and ask him - would have rather did what you did or have sex with 20,000 women?

 

[Postradamus]

61.01 The amount of Alcohol consumed by Andre the Giant - wildcard

 

[Abrantes]

PS. I'll have my picks in by the end of the day, although Wilt is a tough act to follow.