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**Official Greg Jennings Thread** (1 Viewer)

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I have bumped the buy/sell Greg Jennings thread the last couple weeks because I hate diluting the Shark Pool with repeat threads, but really I would rather discuss Jennings and his breakout season and not his buy or sell value right now.

The guy seems to be able to use his explosive speed and make a big play at any point on the field and can get behind the defense. His 10 TDs are very impressive, and one can only wonder if this guy can take his game to the next level consistently. Any thoughts?

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Any thoughts/predictions for 2008? Kid looks like he can play.

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Year three, kid looks to be the real deal, would like to hear new thoughts or opinions if there are any.

 
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I own him as my #1 WR and EVERY SINGLE WEEK I have a feeling that this is the week he comes back to Earth and it costs me, but....every week he comes through for me.

 
I made a big move to get Jennings in my large dynasty league.

My main concern for him was; how would he do with an untested Rodgers at the helm in the future?

Tonights game has eased that concern a little.

 
Had him since last year and he runs good routes, has good moves and game speed and knack for the end zone. Lately he's been a top 10 WR.

 
In my league, if you projected his stats for the first 2 games he missed he would be the #5 WR overall. He's #10 right now not including tonight's performance.

 
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It's a fluke season that we see every year from a WR. Look behind the curtain:

First, Jennings has 10 TDs on 44 receptions, that TD/Rec ratio won't continue...it's simply unrealistic to have that expectation.

Next, Jennings has 44 recepts on 69 targets, that rec/target ratio of 64% is up from 42% last season, improvement is one thing, but reality is another. This number will fall as well.

Finally, Jennings ranks 40th (yes, look it up) in targets per game.

With Driver, Jones, Robinson, Lee, Martin, etc. the Packers will never throw it to Jennings enough for him to be a true WR1, and his production on what opportunities he is getting currently is not be sustainable.

Hate to be a thread killer, but this guy has nothing but downside.

 
It's a fluke season that we see every year from a WR. Look behind the curtain:First, Jennings has 10 TDs on 44 receptions, that TD/Rec ratio won't continue...it's simply unrealistic to have that expectation.Next, Jennings has 44 recepts on 69 targets, that rec/target ratio of 64% is up from 42% last season, improvement is one thing, but reality is another. This number will fall as well.Finally, Jennings ranks 40th (yes, look it up) in targets per game.With Driver, Jones, Robinson, Lee, Martin, etc. the Packers will never throw it to Jennings enough for him to be a true WR1, and his production on what opportunities he is getting currently is not be sustainable. Hate to be a thread killer, but this guy has nothing but downside.
Good luck with that. :mellow:
 
H.K. said:
It's a fluke season that we see every year from a WR. Look behind the curtain:First, Jennings has 10 TDs on 44 receptions, that TD/Rec ratio won't continue...it's simply unrealistic to have that expectation.Next, Jennings has 44 recepts on 69 targets, that rec/target ratio of 64% is up from 42% last season, improvement is one thing, but reality is another. This number will fall as well.Finally, Jennings ranks 40th (yes, look it up) in targets per game.With Driver, Jones, Robinson, Lee, Martin, etc. the Packers will never throw it to Jennings enough for him to be a true WR1, and his production on what opportunities he is getting currently is not be sustainable. Hate to be a thread killer, but this guy has nothing but downside.
H.K. is awesome.
 
H.K. said:
It's a fluke season that we see every year from a WR. Look behind the curtain:First, Jennings has 10 TDs on 44 receptions, that TD/Rec ratio won't continue...it's simply unrealistic to have that expectation.Next, Jennings has 44 recepts on 69 targets, that rec/target ratio of 64% is up from 42% last season, improvement is one thing, but reality is another. This number will fall as well.Finally, Jennings ranks 40th (yes, look it up) in targets per game.With Driver, Jones, Robinson, Lee, Martin, etc. the Packers will never throw it to Jennings enough for him to be a true WR1, and his production on what opportunities he is getting currently is not be sustainable. Hate to be a thread killer, but this guy has nothing but downside.
Wow. Driver isnt getting any younger and Jennings right now is as good after the catch as anyone. I dont own him in any league, but I wish i did. To me the only down side is how long does Favre stay, but after last night Id be a little less worried if I were a Jennings owner.
 
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H.K. said:
It's a fluke season that we see every year from a WR. Look behind the curtain:First, Jennings has 10 TDs on 44 receptions, that TD/Rec ratio won't continue...it's simply unrealistic to have that expectation.Next, Jennings has 44 recepts on 69 targets, that rec/target ratio of 64% is up from 42% last season, improvement is one thing, but reality is another. This number will fall as well.Finally, Jennings ranks 40th (yes, look it up) in targets per game.With Driver, Jones, Robinson, Lee, Martin, etc. the Packers will never throw it to Jennings enough for him to be a true WR1, and his production on what opportunities he is getting currently is not be sustainable. Hate to be a thread killer, but this guy has nothing but downside.
Thanks for pulling the stats. I actually read the same stats in a completely opposite manner. I think this indicates Jennings still has tremendous upside BECAUSE he is not getting that many targets in only his second year. If GB ever decides to feature him, those targets will go up. Even if he doesn't, stats can only take you so far. If you watch Jennings, you will see he has some nice skills, especially after the catch. Early in the year, I was under the impression that he was the "deep threat" for GB. After seeing him score week after week from within the red-zone, I think it is clear that he is much more versatile than that, especially after the catch. He really has a nose for the endzone. I don't know how many times he has split the seams in the defense to dive into the endzone for a score; at least three or four times.
 
H.K. said:
It's a fluke season that we see every year from a WR. Look behind the curtain:First, Jennings has 10 TDs on 44 receptions, that TD/Rec ratio won't continue...it's simply unrealistic to have that expectation.Next, Jennings has 44 recepts on 69 targets, that rec/target ratio of 64% is up from 42% last season, improvement is one thing, but reality is another. This number will fall as well.Finally, Jennings ranks 40th (yes, look it up) in targets per game.With Driver, Jones, Robinson, Lee, Martin, etc. the Packers will never throw it to Jennings enough for him to be a true WR1, and his production on what opportunities he is getting currently is not be sustainable. Hate to be a thread killer, but this guy has nothing but downside.
These are good numbers, however it's also worth noting that he was doing a lot of the same prior to his injury in year 1 as well, so not just this year.From a pure talent standpoint Jennings looks terrific. He's shown us that he can go deep and burn people, and he's shown us that he can take short passes to the house so he'll always have use to us regardless of whether the Packers send him long or keep him underneath. He's also shown some great hands. But the big thing with all of this is that despite all these strengths, according to every report we've heard the last two years those things take a backseat to his route running ability. If he can do as much with the ball as we've seen, and catch the ball as well as we've seen, then it says a lot that his route running was even more impressive than that to coaches.He won't keep scoring every 4.4 catches, obviously. He may or may not keep up the catch percentage (with as enamored as people are with his route running and hands, it's certainly possible). However, his current season-long pace is 1140/16, and 10 games is probably enough to make that extrapolation a bit more reasonable than when people do it with 3 or 4 game windows. So, even if his TD ratio drops there is still a lot of room left there to be a WR1 or WR2.Further, as with the poster above, I read the lack of targets as possibly a good thing. GB coaches and players have to be taking notice, and I can't see any way Jennings starts being targeted less after such a good season, especially with Driver getting older. Rogers seemed to look his way a lot as well, though it was with an extremely small sample size.It's worth noting as well that the last guy I can think of that put up a large number of TDs with a mild number of receptions over the course of a season was Lee Evans with 9 TDs on 48 receptions his rookie year. I was down on him at the time for many of the same reasons you are down on Jennings, but he ended up developing into a WR1 even though his TD ratio dropped (although he has of course been struggling this year).
 
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H.K. said:
It's a fluke season that we see every year from a WR. Look behind the curtain:

First, Jennings has 10 TDs on 44 receptions, that TD/Rec ratio won't continue...it's simply unrealistic to have that expectation.

Next, Jennings has 44 recepts on 69 targets, that rec/target ratio of 64% is up from 42% last season, improvement is one thing, but reality is another. This number will fall as well.

Finally, Jennings ranks 40th (yes, look it up) in targets per game.

With Driver, Jones, Robinson, Lee, Martin, etc. the Packers will never throw it to Jennings enough for him to be a true WR1, and his production on what opportunities he is getting currently is not be sustainable.

Hate to be a thread killer, but this guy has nothing but downside.
Braylon Edwards.... Randy Moss.... and others have "more unrealistic" (as you call it) TD/Rec ratio's. Hell even Leonard Pope has "more unrealistic". I do not see why this couldn't continue. Favre looks for Jennings when he needs a big play. They throw short passes to other WR's to set it up. Thats why it works. It's unbelievable to me that we are 75% into the season and people are still pulling the "Well were 12 games into the season... dont get your hopes up". I mean comeon it first started with "It's one or two games, don't bet on it continueing" then "4 or 5 games blah blah blah". Hell after the season it'll just be "one season" i bet. Gimme a break, the guy has proven himself. I'm sorry you didn't get the chance to draft him.
 
H.K. said:
It's a fluke season that we see every year from a WR. Look behind the curtain:

First, Jennings has 10 TDs on 44 receptions, that TD/Rec ratio won't continue...it's simply unrealistic to have that expectation.

Next, Jennings has 44 recepts on 69 targets, that rec/target ratio of 64% is up from 42% last season, improvement is one thing, but reality is another. This number will fall as well.

Finally, Jennings ranks 40th (yes, look it up) in targets per game.

With Driver, Jones, Robinson, Lee, Martin, etc. the Packers will never throw it to Jennings enough for him to be a true WR1, and his production on what opportunities he is getting currently is not be sustainable.

Hate to be a thread killer, but this guy has nothing but downside.
Braylon Edwards.... Randy Moss.... and others have "more unrealistic" (as you call it) TD/Rec ratio's. Hell even Leonard Pope has "more unrealistic". I do not see why this couldn't continue. Favre looks for Jennings when he needs a big play. They throw short passes to other WR's to set it up. Thats why it works. It's unbelievable to me that we are 75% into the season and people are still pulling the "Well were 12 games into the season... dont get your hopes up". I mean comeon it first started with "It's one or two games, don't bet on it continueing" then "4 or 5 games blah blah blah". Hell after the season it'll just be "one season" i bet. Gimme a break, the guy has proven himself. I'm sorry you didn't get the chance to draft him.
I started to post the same thing earlier (Plaxico, Santonio, AJ) but figured why bother.
 
If I hadn't have dropped him earlier this year in a re-draft league, I could have kept him with a 13th round pick next year. Now, not only can I not keep him, but, someone else picked him up.

At least in an auction league where I didn't draft him, I picked him up when someone else dropped him, so, I can keep him cheap there.

 
Someone must not have told Jennings that his crazy TD/Receptions ratio can't continue. His ratio today was 50%. Two receptions for 100 and a TD. Pro bowl should be a lock.

 
During our 2006 draft i was beeing laughed at for picking him with pick 3.2 in my dynasty league. Almost every other GM shook his head about this pick. Guess who is laughing now... :thumbup:
 
During our 2006 draft i was beeing laughed at for picking him with pick 3.2 in my dynasty league. Almost every other GM shook his head about this pick. Guess who is laughing now... :thumbup:
Me, that was way to early. No matter what he does, you could have gotten him 4 rounds later.
I don't think so. We're a 10 team dynasty league with 35 roster spots during the season. We can keep 17 players at the end of the year so at the beginning of the draft there were already 170 players taken. Basically our draft is a rookie draft with a veteran getting picked here and there but overall i think 3rd round was not that early to call it a reach.
 
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During our 2006 draft i was beeing laughed at for picking him with pick 3.2 in my dynasty league. Almost every other GM shook his head about this pick. Guess who is laughing now... :thumbup:
Me, that was way to early. No matter what he does, you could have gotten him 4 rounds later.
I don't think so. We're a 10 team dynasty league with 35 roster spots during the season. We can keep 17 players at the end of the year so at the beginning of the draft there were already 170 players taken. Basically our draft is a rookie draft with a veteran getting picked here and there but overall i think 3rd round was not that early to call it a reach.
OK, i thought you meant a start-up dynasty draft. Under your circumstances, he should have went in the first round...good pick.
 
It's a fluke season that we see every year from a WR. Look behind the curtain:First, Jennings has 10 TDs on 44 receptions, that TD/Rec ratio won't continue...it's simply unrealistic to have that expectation.Next, Jennings has 44 recepts on 69 targets, that rec/target ratio of 64% is up from 42% last season, improvement is one thing, but reality is another. This number will fall as well.Finally, Jennings ranks 40th (yes, look it up) in targets per game.With Driver, Jones, Robinson, Lee, Martin, etc. the Packers will never throw it to Jennings enough for him to be a true WR1, and his production on what opportunities he is getting currently is not be sustainable. Hate to be a thread killer, but this guy has nothing but downside.
HK slandering a GB player. I'm shocked.
 
:goodposting: One lucky catch where the DB falls on his butt and you guys act like he's better than Randy Moss.

If Jennings is so good, why doesn't he get more targets? Seriously, someone answer that question for me.

 
During our 2006 draft i was beeing laughed at for picking him with pick 3.2 in my dynasty league. Almost every other GM shook his head about this pick. Guess who is laughing now... :goodposting:
Me, that was way to early. No matter what he does, you could have gotten him 4 rounds later.
####, in 2006, I picked him at 2.2. Why? Because I am a genius at scouting WRs. It pays to watch the combine. Took Brandon Marshall at 2.4 by trading up to get that pick. Oh yeah, it pays to watch the combine.
 
During our 2006 draft i was beeing laughed at for picking him with pick 3.2 in my dynasty league. Almost every other GM shook his head about this pick. Guess who is laughing now... ;)
Me, that was way to early. No matter what he does, you could have gotten him 4 rounds later.
####, in 2006, I picked him at 2.2. Why? Because I am a genius at scouting WRs. It pays to watch the combine. Took Brandon Marshall at 2.4 by trading up to get that pick. Oh yeah, it pays to watch the combine.
Before you hurt your arm patting yourself on the back, both Jennings and Marshall were heavily hyped on these boards. My guess is a lot of shark pool owners ended up with these guys on their dynasty squads.
 
During our 2006 draft i was beeing laughed at for picking him with pick 3.2 in my dynasty league. Almost every other GM shook his head about this pick. Guess who is laughing now... ;)
Me, that was way to early. No matter what he does, you could have gotten him 4 rounds later.
####, in 2006, I picked him at 2.2. Why? Because I am a genius at scouting WRs. It pays to watch the combine. Took Brandon Marshall at 2.4 by trading up to get that pick. Oh yeah, it pays to watch the combine.
Before you hurt your arm patting yourself on the back, both Jennings and Marshall were heavily hyped on these boards. My guess is a lot of shark pool owners ended up with these guys on their dynasty squads.
Sorry, but Jennings was not hyped before his rookie season.
 
During our 2006 draft i was beeing laughed at for picking him with pick 3.2 in my dynasty league. Almost every other GM shook his head about this pick. Guess who is laughing now... ;)
Me, that was way to early. No matter what he does, you could have gotten him 4 rounds later.
####, in 2006, I picked him at 2.2. Why? Because I am a genius at scouting WRs. It pays to watch the combine. Took Brandon Marshall at 2.4 by trading up to get that pick. Oh yeah, it pays to watch the combine.
Before you hurt your arm patting yourself on the back, both Jennings and Marshall were heavily hyped on these boards. My guess is a lot of shark pool owners ended up with these guys on their dynasty squads.
Sorry, but Jennings was not hyped before his rookie season.
I took Jennings in the 2nd round in 3 of my 4 Zealots dynasty leagues. I dont think he was overly hyped, but he was the 3rd WR of the board in the NFL draft, so he probably was a 2nd round pick in most rookie drafts.
 
:blackdot: One lucky catch where the DB falls on his butt and you guys act like he's better than Randy Moss. If Jennings is so good, why doesn't he get more targets? Seriously, someone answer that question for me.
Because that's Driver's role in McCarthy's offense. Since McCarthy is more focused on a short passing game and Driver plays the slot, he's going to get more looks. There's no reason to think that Jennings couldn't play that role as well but why mess with something that's going good.
 
:blackdot: One lucky catch where the DB falls on his butt and you guys act like he's better than Randy Moss. If Jennings is so good, why doesn't he get more targets? Seriously, someone answer that question for me.
The DB "fell on his butt" after Jennings made the catch. Nice try. :banned:
 
During our 2006 draft i was beeing laughed at for picking him with pick 3.2 in my dynasty league. Almost every other GM shook his head about this pick. Guess who is laughing now... :blackdot:
Me, that was way to early. No matter what he does, you could have gotten him 4 rounds later.
####, in 2006, I picked him at 2.2. Why? Because I am a genius at scouting WRs. It pays to watch the combine. Took Brandon Marshall at 2.4 by trading up to get that pick. Oh yeah, it pays to watch the combine.
Before you hurt your arm patting yourself on the back, both Jennings and Marshall were heavily hyped on these boards. My guess is a lot of shark pool owners ended up with these guys on their dynasty squads.
Sorry, but Jennings was not hyped before his rookie season.
After the first week of training camp, all we heard out of GB was how Jennings ran routes like a vet and was exceptional for a rookie. There was hype in the GB media at least.I had him as the #19 overall player in the Bloom 100 on 8/18, #16 overall offensive player.

Here's what I reported:

Jennings has hit the scene in Green Bay looking much more like a seasoned veteran than a rookie. He is soaring up the depth chart. Jennings was productive in the preseason opener but also made a few key mistakes. He's got a chance to be the most productive rookie WR in the league.
From the Rookie Draft Strategy Article:
The real value comes in the early twenties, where Greg Jennings and Brandon Marshall can be had relatively cheap. This could be changing as positive news from training camp begins to ripple through the fantasy world. Both seem on track to get shots at the long term #2 job on their teams. Jennings is the safer pick, but Marshall has more upside. Either is fine return on a mid to late second round pick. If you want either, think about trading up once the draft hits pick 20.
Of course, Im sure it seems like a whisper compared to the Marshall buzz, but there was definitely buzz around Jennings in the Summer of 06.
 
That being said, he wasn't being hyped. He was generating some buzz.

Hyped was someone like Sucktanio Holmes.

 
After the first week of training camp, all we heard out of GB was how Jennings ran routes like a vet and was exceptional for a rookie. There was hype in the GB media at least.I had him as the #19 overall player in the Bloom 100 on 8/18, #16 overall offensive player.Here's what I reported:

Jennings has hit the scene in Green Bay looking much more like a seasoned veteran than a rookie. He is soaring up the depth chart. Jennings was productive in the preseason opener but also made a few key mistakes. He's got a chance to be the most productive rookie WR in the league.
From the Rookie Draft Strategy Article:
The real value comes in the early twenties, where Greg Jennings and Brandon Marshall can be had relatively cheap. This could be changing as positive news from training camp begins to ripple through the fantasy world. Both seem on track to get shots at the long term #2 job on their teams. Jennings is the safer pick, but Marshall has more upside. Either is fine return on a mid to late second round pick. If you want either, think about trading up once the draft hits pick 20.
Of course, Im sure it seems like a whisper compared to the Marshall buzz, but there was definitely buzz around Jennings in the Summer of 06.
What we heard was he was flying through routes and catching everything thrown to him. It was said he did not look like a rookie at all.
 
:confused: One lucky catch where the DB falls on his butt and you guys act like he's better than Randy Moss. If Jennings is so good, why doesn't he get more targets? Seriously, someone answer that question for me.
Randy Moss? So far this year Jennings has 46 lucky catches 812 lucky yards and 11 lucky touchdowns. ;)
 
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:rolleyes: One lucky catch where the DB falls on his butt and you guys act like he's better than Randy Moss. If Jennings is so good, why doesn't he get more targets? Seriously, someone answer that question for me.
How many lucky 50+ yard TD's is that for Jennings this year? 4. He is #2 in targets in GB and Jones has taken away just as many. They do line up 3 and 4 wide ya know. 73 targets is not bad fo the '#2' WR. But it is what you do with the ball once it's in your hands. You can fall down and curl up in the fetal position like 2006-2007 Marvin Harrison....or you can take it to the house like Greg Jennings does. Out with the old, in with the new.
 
Jennings did not get a lucky TD - the reason he is so lethal deep is that he can simultaneously track the ball while staying in stride and turning his body to have the best angle to attack the ball- combined that with a legit 5th gear to gain separation, and you have a top deep threat. He just makes it look easy because he's so under control, and he's not a big WR, so its not as flashy. He also has sick small area quicks - he could be even MORE productive in the future once Driver starts to decline.

 
:rolleyes: One lucky catch where the DB falls on his butt and you guys act like he's better than Randy Moss.

If Jennings is so good, why doesn't he get more targets? Seriously, someone answer that question for me.
Randy Moss? Post #21 of this thread

So far this year Jennings has 46 lucky catches 812 lucky yards and 11 lucky touchdowns. :rolleyes:

Targets: 74. Again, if he is so good, why don't they throw to him more?
 
That being said, he wasn't being hyped. He was generating some buzz. Hyped was someone like Sucktanio Holmes.
I dont remember Holmes being hyped either. And why do you call him Sucktanio Holmes? Other than the fact it is corny when people change a players name to something negative, it is not true. Holmes has played well when healthy, and certainly has lived up to any hype he may have received.
 
:rolleyes: One lucky catch where the DB falls on his butt and you guys act like he's better than Randy Moss.

If Jennings is so good, why doesn't he get more targets? Seriously, someone answer that question for me.
Randy Moss? Post #21 of this thread

So far this year Jennings has 46 lucky catches 812 lucky yards and 11 lucky touchdowns. :rolleyes:

Targets: 74. Again, if he is so good, why don't they throw to him more?
Why does any team not give the ball to their best player every down?
 
:rolleyes: One lucky catch where the DB falls on his butt and you guys act like he's better than Randy Moss.

If Jennings is so good, why doesn't he get more targets? Seriously, someone answer that question for me.
How many lucky 50+ yard TD's is that for Jennings this year? 4. Does anyone honestly think that he'll replicate those numbers next year?

He is #2 in targets in GB and Jones has taken away just as many. They do line up 3 and 4 wide ya know.

What does that tell us?

73 targets is not bad fo the '#2' WR.

Jones has 70. He's barely #2 on his own team.

But it is what you do with the ball once it's in your hands.

Again, if he is so good with the ball in his hands, why not give it to him more?
 
:lmao: One lucky catch where the DB falls on his butt and you guys act like he's better than Randy Moss.

If Jennings is so good, why doesn't he get more targets? Seriously, someone answer that question for me.
Randy Moss? Post #21 of this thread

So far this year Jennings has 46 lucky catches 812 lucky yards and 11 lucky touchdowns. :lmao:

Targets: 74. Again, if he is so good, why don't they throw to him more?
IMHO, Farve is spreading the ball, moving the chains, setting up the big play, and...winning with that. If Driver is so good, why don't they throw to him more?

Useless sidenote: A guy in my 3 keeper kept Jennings and dropped him midseason. Someone picked him up while I was figuring out who to drop. Lol

 
:lmao: One lucky catch where the DB falls on his butt and you guys act like he's better than Randy Moss.

If Jennings is so good, why doesn't he get more targets? Seriously, someone answer that question for me.
How many lucky 50+ yard TD's is that for Jennings this year? 4. Does anyone honestly think that he'll replicate those numbers next year?
Maybe not, but i think he will get more targets next year to compensate for it.The guy has great hands, is one of the best deep threats in the league, runs very well after the catch, and runs good routes. When this guy is healthy, he is one of the best talents in the league. He is only in his 2nd year, and has nowhere to go but up.

 

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