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Get one of these if you're worried about bugs:My family is having a rib "cookoff" at our anual camping trip at the end of July. Anyone done BRITU?
Can I season the ribs the night before we leave and vacuum seal them to be smoked a couple of days later? I tent camp while the rest of my family has campers so my prep area will be somewhat limited. Also worried about bugs when prepping outdoors and needing to leave the ribs sit out for a while.
Season with freshly ground course black pepper and vacume seal, apply your rub a few hours prior to cooking and foil. Why would the ribs need to sit out for a while?My family is having a rib "cookoff" at our anual camping trip at the end of July. Anyone done BRITU?
Can I season the ribs the night before we leave and vacuum seal them to be smoked a couple of days later? I tent camp while the rest of my family has campers so my prep area will be somewhat limited. Also worried about bugs when prepping outdoors and needing to leave the ribs sit out for a while.
Try this on one of your runs, assuming these are Baby BacksHope to do a couple of practice runs.1) Make sure you cook your ribs perfect. If you're serious about it, do a practice run. Focus less on your brining and rubs and crap and nail the meat first. That's 90% of it.My family is having a rib "cookoff" at our anual camping trip at the end of July. Anyone done BRITU?
Can I season the ribs the night before we leave and vacuum seal them to be smoked a couple of days later? I tent camp while the rest of my family has campers so my prep area will be somewhat limited. Also worried about bugs when prepping outdoors and needing to leave the ribs sit out for a while.It's not a "serious" competition. Just family bragging rights.
Pu them on cold, this will give you a much more pronounced smoke ring and will only add around 10-15 minutes cooking timeRibs would be coming out of a cooler, so would like to bring them to room temp before smoking. I'm probably making it more complicated than it is and could bring them to "room" temp covered.Season with freshly ground course black pepper and vacume seal, apply your rub a few hours prior to cooking and foil. Why would the ribs need to sit out for a while?My family is having a rib "cookoff" at our anual camping trip at the end of July. Anyone done BRITU?
Can I season the ribs the night before we leave and vacuum seal them to be smoked a couple of days later? I tent camp while the rest of my family has campers so my prep area will be somewhat limited. Also worried about bugs when prepping outdoors and needing to leave the ribs sit out for a while.
where is the recipe? I checked the 2012 and 2013 threads couldn't find itSo my son has requested Fanatic's Orange Soda Wings for his graduation dinner, narrowly edging out Plantation Shrimp and grits. We have to make do with the national brand orange soda down here. Is there any point in marinading the wings in the orange soda? Or maybe orange juice (plenty of that here).
https://grillinfools.com/blog/2011/05/31/smoked-wings-in-an-orange-soda-and-hot-sauce-glaze/VA703 said:where is the recipe? I checked the 2012 and 2013 threads couldn't find itJaxBill said:So my son has requested Fanatic's Orange Soda Wings for his graduation dinner, narrowly edging out Plantation Shrimp and grits. We have to make do with the national brand orange soda down here. Is there any point in marinading the wings in the orange soda? Or maybe orange juice (plenty of that here).
I'm a big fan of Fanatic's site and use many of his recipes, but don't like the looks of that one. The orange soda strikes me as a gimmick he adds for promotional purposes, and I would not want to smoke wings for an hour over low heat before searing. Just my personal taste, I'm sure he's forgotten more about grilling than I'll ever know. I've worked hard to perfect my wings though, suffered through many bad batches, and finally settled on a method that works for me based on Meathead's recipe: http://amazingribs.com/recipes/chicken_turkey_duck/buffalo_wings_on_the_grill.htmlhttps://grillinfools.com/blog/2011/05/31/smoked-wings-in-an-orange-soda-and-hot-sauce-glaze/VA703 said:where is the recipe? I checked the 2012 and 2013 threads couldn't find itJaxBill said:So my son has requested Fanatic's Orange Soda Wings for his graduation dinner, narrowly edging out Plantation Shrimp and grits. We have to make do with the national brand orange soda down here. Is there any point in marinading the wings in the orange soda? Or maybe orange juice (plenty of that here).
The method Fanatic uses is pretty good as long as you hit the wings up with plenty of butter/sauce and crisp them up over direct heat. I usually smoke them for about 45 - 60 minutes over 250 so it's not real low heat.I'm a big fan of Fanatic's site and use many of his recipes, but don't like the looks of that one. The orange soda strikes me as a gimmick he adds for promotional purposes, and I would not want to smoke wings for an hour over low heat before searing. Just my personal taste, I'm sure he's forgotten more about grilling than I'll ever know. I've worked hard to perfect my wings though, suffered through many bad batches, and finally settled on a method that works for me based on Meathead's recipe: http://amazingribs.com/recipes/chicken_turkey_duck/buffalo_wings_on_the_grill.htmlhttps://grillinfools.com/blog/2011/05/31/smoked-wings-in-an-orange-soda-and-hot-sauce-glaze/VA703 said:where is the recipe? I checked the 2012 and 2013 threads couldn't find itJaxBill said:So my son has requested Fanatic's Orange Soda Wings for his graduation dinner, narrowly edging out Plantation Shrimp and grits. We have to make do with the national brand orange soda down here. Is there any point in marinading the wings in the orange soda? Or maybe orange juice (plenty of that here).
Or you could just fry them after smoking them if crisp skin is the objectiveThe method Fanatic uses is pretty good as long as you hit the wings up with plenty of butter/sauce and crisp them up over direct heat. I usually smoke them for about 45 - 60 minutes over 250 so it's not real low heat.I'm a big fan of Fanatic's site and use many of his recipes, but don't like the looks of that one. The orange soda strikes me as a gimmick he adds for promotional purposes, and I would not want to smoke wings for an hour over low heat before searing. Just my personal taste, I'm sure he's forgotten more about grilling than I'll ever know. I've worked hard to perfect my wings though, suffered through many bad batches, and finally settled on a method that works for me based on Meathead's recipe: http://amazingribs.com/recipes/chicken_turkey_duck/buffalo_wings_on_the_grill.htmlhttps://grillinfools.com/blog/2011/05/31/smoked-wings-in-an-orange-soda-and-hot-sauce-glaze/VA703 said:where is the recipe? I checked the 2012 and 2013 threads couldn't find itJaxBill said:So my son has requested Fanatic's Orange Soda Wings for his graduation dinner, narrowly edging out Plantation Shrimp and grits. We have to make do with the national brand orange soda down here. Is there any point in marinading the wings in the orange soda? Or maybe orange juice (plenty of that here).
I've used it before with his recipe and others. Different taste than deep fried buffalo wings for sure but still pretty darn good.
ETA - That amazingribs link even has the disclaimer:
"If you have a smoker, start them on the smoker, then finish on a hot grill over direct heat to crisp."
Anyone ever use an air fryer? I'm thinking about picking one up with this being one of the main reasons. I would think putting chicken in one of these for 5-10 minutes after smoking would do the trick.Or you could just fry them after smoking them if crisp skin is the objectiveThe method Fanatic uses is pretty good as long as you hit the wings up with plenty of butter/sauce and crisp them up over direct heat. I usually smoke them for about 45 - 60 minutes over 250 so it's not real low heat.I'm a big fan of Fanatic's site and use many of his recipes, but don't like the looks of that one. The orange soda strikes me as a gimmick he adds for promotional purposes, and I would not want to smoke wings for an hour over low heat before searing. Just my personal taste, I'm sure he's forgotten more about grilling than I'll ever know. I've worked hard to perfect my wings though, suffered through many bad batches, and finally settled on a method that works for me based on Meathead's recipe: http://amazingribs.com/recipes/chicken_turkey_duck/buffalo_wings_on_the_grill.htmlhttps://grillinfools.com/blog/2011/05/31/smoked-wings-in-an-orange-soda-and-hot-sauce-glaze/VA703 said:where is the recipe? I checked the 2012 and 2013 threads couldn't find itJaxBill said:So my son has requested Fanatic's Orange Soda Wings for his graduation dinner, narrowly edging out Plantation Shrimp and grits. We have to make do with the national brand orange soda down here. Is there any point in marinading the wings in the orange soda? Or maybe orange juice (plenty of that here).
I've used it before with his recipe and others. Different taste than deep fried buffalo wings for sure but still pretty darn good.
ETA - That amazingribs link even has the disclaimer:
"If you have a smoker, start them on the smoker, then finish on a hot grill over direct heat to crisp."
I bought my dad one and we do wings and whole chickn in them all the time and we do a smaller 12-14 LBs turkey in each Thanksgiving.Anyone ever use an air fryer? I'm thinking about picking one up with this being one of the main reasons. I would think putting chicken in one of these for 5-10 minutes after smoking would do the trick.Or you could just fry them after smoking them if crisp skin is the objectiveThe method Fanatic uses is pretty good as long as you hit the wings up with plenty of butter/sauce and crisp them up over direct heat. I usually smoke them for about 45 - 60 minutes over 250 so it's not real low heat.I'm a big fan of Fanatic's site and use many of his recipes, but don't like the looks of that one. The orange soda strikes me as a gimmick he adds for promotional purposes, and I would not want to smoke wings for an hour over low heat before searing. Just my personal taste, I'm sure he's forgotten more about grilling than I'll ever know. I've worked hard to perfect my wings though, suffered through many bad batches, and finally settled on a method that works for me based on Meathead's recipe: http://amazingribs.com/recipes/chicken_turkey_duck/buffalo_wings_on_the_grill.htmlhttps://grillinfools.com/blog/2011/05/31/smoked-wings-in-an-orange-soda-and-hot-sauce-glaze/VA703 said:where is the recipe? I checked the 2012 and 2013 threads couldn't find itJaxBill said:So my son has requested Fanatic's Orange Soda Wings for his graduation dinner, narrowly edging out Plantation Shrimp and grits. We have to make do with the national brand orange soda down here. Is there any point in marinading the wings in the orange soda? Or maybe orange juice (plenty of that here).
I've used it before with his recipe and others. Different taste than deep fried buffalo wings for sure but still pretty darn good.
ETA - That amazingribs link even has the disclaimer:
"If you have a smoker, start them on the smoker, then finish on a hot grill over direct heat to crisp."
Sweet. Do you ever smoke a bird first then finish it up in their to crisp up the skin?I bought my dad one and we do wings and whole chickn in them all the time and we do a smaller 12-14 LBs turkey in each Thanksgiving.Anyone ever use an air fryer? I'm thinking about picking one up with this being one of the main reasons. I would think putting chicken in one of these for 5-10 minutes after smoking would do the trick.Or you could just fry them after smoking them if crisp skin is the objectiveThe method Fanatic uses is pretty good as long as you hit the wings up with plenty of butter/sauce and crisp them up over direct heat. I usually smoke them for about 45 - 60 minutes over 250 so it's not real low heat.I'm a big fan of Fanatic's site and use many of his recipes, but don't like the looks of that one. The orange soda strikes me as a gimmick he adds for promotional purposes, and I would not want to smoke wings for an hour over low heat before searing. Just my personal taste, I'm sure he's forgotten more about grilling than I'll ever know. I've worked hard to perfect my wings though, suffered through many bad batches, and finally settled on a method that works for me based on Meathead's recipe: http://amazingribs.com/recipes/chicken_turkey_duck/buffalo_wings_on_the_grill.htmlhttps://grillinfools.com/blog/2011/05/31/smoked-wings-in-an-orange-soda-and-hot-sauce-glaze/VA703 said:where is the recipe? I checked the 2012 and 2013 threads couldn't find itJaxBill said:So my son has requested Fanatic's Orange Soda Wings for his graduation dinner, narrowly edging out Plantation Shrimp and grits. We have to make do with the national brand orange soda down here. Is there any point in marinading the wings in the orange soda? Or maybe orange juice (plenty of that here).
I've used it before with his recipe and others. Different taste than deep fried buffalo wings for sure but still pretty darn good.
ETA - That amazingribs link even has the disclaimer:
"If you have a smoker, start them on the smoker, then finish on a hot grill over direct heat to crisp."
I got him this
http://www.charbroil.com/the-big-easy-oil-less-turkey-fryer
Whole birds no, with smoked birds I don't worry about the skin being crispy.Sweet. Do you ever smoke a bird first then finish it up in their to crisp up the skin?I bought my dad one and we do wings and whole chickn in them all the time and we do a smaller 12-14 LBs turkey in each Thanksgiving.Anyone ever use an air fryer? I'm thinking about picking one up with this being one of the main reasons. I would think putting chicken in one of these for 5-10 minutes after smoking would do the trick.Or you could just fry them after smoking them if crisp skin is the objectiveThe method Fanatic uses is pretty good as long as you hit the wings up with plenty of butter/sauce and crisp them up over direct heat. I usually smoke them for about 45 - 60 minutes over 250 so it's not real low heat.I'm a big fan of Fanatic's site and use many of his recipes, but don't like the looks of that one. The orange soda strikes me as a gimmick he adds for promotional purposes, and I would not want to smoke wings for an hour over low heat before searing. Just my personal taste, I'm sure he's forgotten more about grilling than I'll ever know. I've worked hard to perfect my wings though, suffered through many bad batches, and finally settled on a method that works for me based on Meathead's recipe: http://amazingribs.com/recipes/chicken_turkey_duck/buffalo_wings_on_the_grill.htmlhttps://grillinfools.com/blog/2011/05/31/smoked-wings-in-an-orange-soda-and-hot-sauce-glaze/VA703 said:where is the recipe? I checked the 2012 and 2013 threads couldn't find itJaxBill said:So my son has requested Fanatic's Orange Soda Wings for his graduation dinner, narrowly edging out Plantation Shrimp and grits. We have to make do with the national brand orange soda down here. Is there any point in marinading the wings in the orange soda? Or maybe orange juice (plenty of that here).
I've used it before with his recipe and others. Different taste than deep fried buffalo wings for sure but still pretty darn good.
ETA - That amazingribs link even has the disclaimer:
"If you have a smoker, start them on the smoker, then finish on a hot grill over direct heat to crisp."
I got him this
http://www.charbroil.com/the-big-easy-oil-less-turkey-fryer
Check with [icon]? See if he has a graphics person he uses for his competition team t-shirts?Fanatic doesn't come around very much anymore. I wonder why?
Also, does anyone know a good source to have a logo drawn up? I made some pulled pork and chicken for a fund raiser a few weeks ago as a favor to a buddy of mine and now 3 different people are asking me to supply the same for small events for them. I figure maybe I should get some business cards just in case this progresses.
ETA - I know where to get the cards, but I want a caricature type logo like so many BBQ teams and joints have to put on the cards.
I do our graphics and did our logo, but i generally shy from cartoony type stuff.Check with [icon]? See if he has a graphics person he uses for his competition team t-shirts?Fanatic doesn't come around very much anymore. I wonder why?
Also, does anyone know a good source to have a logo drawn up? I made some pulled pork and chicken for a fund raiser a few weeks ago as a favor to a buddy of mine and now 3 different people are asking me to supply the same for small events for them. I figure maybe I should get some business cards just in case this progresses.
ETA - I know where to get the cards, but I want a caricature type logo like so many BBQ teams and joints have to put on the cards.
I'm not a big fan of the taste of coke, but I just love the way it smells.Don't get the coke wet.It's amazing what 48 hours will do to some chicken breasts (or steak) if you thrown them in a zip lock back with some coke and teriyakisauce.
2 days in a marinade with much acid based stuff will cook the #### out of it.I'm not a big fan of the taste of coke, but I just love the way it smells.Don't get the coke wet.It's amazing what 48 hours will do to some chicken breasts (or steak) if you thrown them in a zip lock back with some coke and teriyakisauce.
https://www.fiverr.com/categories/graphics-designFanatic doesn't come around very much anymore. I wonder why?
Also, does anyone know a good source to have a logo drawn up? I made some pulled pork and chicken for a fund raiser a few weeks ago as a favor to a buddy of mine and now 3 different people are asking me to supply the same for small events for them. I figure maybe I should get some business cards just in case this progresses.
ETA - I know where to get the cards, but I want a caricature type logo like so many BBQ teams and joints have to put on the cards.
That is a great looking logo [icon].[icon] said:I do our graphics and did our logo, but i generally shy from cartoony type stuff.JaxBill said:Check with [icon]? See if he has a graphics person he uses for his competition team t-shirts?Fanatic doesn't come around very much anymore. I wonder why?
Also, does anyone know a good source to have a logo drawn up? I made some pulled pork and chicken for a fund raiser a few weeks ago as a favor to a buddy of mine and now 3 different people are asking me to supply the same for small events for them. I figure maybe I should get some business cards just in case this progresses.
ETA - I know where to get the cards, but I want a caricature type logo like so many BBQ teams and joints have to put on the cards.
Not to get all dooshy/lawyerly on this very cool effort, but if this thing progresses beyond close friends and family, there are likely a few significant regulatory/legal considerations to think about.That is a great looking logo [icon].[icon] said:I do our graphics and did our logo, but i generally shy from cartoony type stuff.JaxBill said:Check with [icon]? See if he has a graphics person he uses for his competition team t-shirts?Fanatic doesn't come around very much anymore. I wonder why?
Also, does anyone know a good source to have a logo drawn up? I made some pulled pork and chicken for a fund raiser a few weeks ago as a favor to a buddy of mine and now 3 different people are asking me to supply the same for small events for them. I figure maybe I should get some business cards just in case this progresses.
ETA - I know where to get the cards, but I want a caricature type logo like so many BBQ teams and joints have to put on the cards.
What I'm thinking of calling whatever this is or might be DobieQ. I have 3 Dobermans and I like the sound of it.
I know you won't do it but I'd welcome any thoughts you or anyone else might have.
3 big, drooling Dobermans standing in front of a cow, chicken, and pig who are sweating and look scared to death with a smoker behind them. I can see it in my mind, but I'm not sure my description will make sense.
Thank you TF. That's just the kind of place I need.Tiger Fan said:https://www.fiverr.com/categories/graphics-designFanatic doesn't come around very much anymore. I wonder why?
Also, does anyone know a good source to have a logo drawn up? I made some pulled pork and chicken for a fund raiser a few weeks ago as a favor to a buddy of mine and now 3 different people are asking me to supply the same for small events for them. I figure maybe I should get some business cards just in case this progresses.
ETA - I know where to get the cards, but I want a caricature type logo like so many BBQ teams and joints have to put on the cards.
I'm sure there are. I just did the last one as a favor with no compensation other than about a half pound of pulled pork I kept for me. Now that you mention it I'm sure I can get in loads of trouble if something happens or someone gets sick.Not to get all dooshy/lawyerly on this very cool effort, but if this thing progresses beyond close friends and family, there are likely a few significant regulatory/legal considerations to think about.That is a great looking logo [icon].[icon] said:I do our graphics and did our logo, but i generally shy from cartoony type stuff.JaxBill said:Check with [icon]? See if he has a graphics person he uses for his competition team t-shirts?Fanatic doesn't come around very much anymore. I wonder why?
Also, does anyone know a good source to have a logo drawn up? I made some pulled pork and chicken for a fund raiser a few weeks ago as a favor to a buddy of mine and now 3 different people are asking me to supply the same for small events for them. I figure maybe I should get some business cards just in case this progresses.
ETA - I know where to get the cards, but I want a caricature type logo like so many BBQ teams and joints have to put on the cards.
What I'm thinking of calling whatever this is or might be DobieQ. I have 3 Dobermans and I like the sound of it.
I know you won't do it but I'd welcome any thoughts you or anyone else might have.
3 big, drooling Dobermans standing in front of a cow, chicken, and pig who are sweating and look scared to death with a smoker behind them. I can see it in my mind, but I'm not sure my description will make sense.
see post 460Still waiting on recommendations for best baby back rib rub. Going for a sweet honey sauce at the end.
Thanks
Rub acquired. Also got two bottles of the sauce to get me over free shipping.see post 460Still waiting on recommendations for best baby back rib rub. Going for a sweet honey sauce at the end.
Thanks
EnjoyRub acquired. Also got two bottles of the sauce to get me over free shipping.see post 460Still waiting on recommendations for best baby back rib rub. Going for a sweet honey sauce at the end.
Thanks
Thanks!That is a great looking logo [icon].[icon] said:I do our graphics and did our logo, but i generally shy from cartoony type stuff.JaxBill said:Check with [icon]? See if he has a graphics person he uses for his competition team t-shirts?Fanatic doesn't come around very much anymore. I wonder why?
Also, does anyone know a good source to have a logo drawn up? I made some pulled pork and chicken for a fund raiser a few weeks ago as a favor to a buddy of mine and now 3 different people are asking me to supply the same for small events for them. I figure maybe I should get some business cards just in case this progresses.
ETA - I know where to get the cards, but I want a caricature type logo like so many BBQ teams and joints have to put on the cards.
What I'm thinking of calling whatever this is or might be DobieQ. I have 3 Dobermans and I like the sound of it.
I know you won't do it but I'd welcome any thoughts you or anyone else might have.
3 big, drooling Dobermans standing in front of a cow, chicken, and pig who are sweating and look scared to death with a smoker behind them. I can see it in my mind, but I'm not sure my description will make sense.
Thank you TF. That's just the kind of place I need.Tiger Fan said:https://www.fiverr.com/categories/graphics-designFanatic doesn't come around very much anymore. I wonder why?
Also, does anyone know a good source to have a logo drawn up? I made some pulled pork and chicken for a fund raiser a few weeks ago as a favor to a buddy of mine and now 3 different people are asking me to supply the same for small events for them. I figure maybe I should get some business cards just in case this progresses.
ETA - I know where to get the cards, but I want a caricature type logo like so many BBQ teams and joints have to put on the cards.
Shameless plug for GBs of minesee post 460Still waiting on recommendations for best baby back rib rub. Going for a sweet honey sauce at the end.
Thanks
This is awsome on any chickenany good over the counter chicken wing rub and/or marinade?
Great name anywayShameless plug for GBs of minesee post 460Still waiting on recommendations for best baby back rib rub. Going for a sweet honey sauce at the end.
Thanks
I either use this or 3 Eyez when I'm too lazy to make my own rubs.Just got some Dizzy Pig Raging River. Great alternative to Dizzy Dust, which I love too. I've only used it on chicken over the last 2 days but am looking forward to trying it on fish.
Sooooo many ingredients!Almost a sin to talk about the lowly boneless, skinless breast in here but I did a marinade last night that was Frank's, Cholula, Honey, worcestershire, dried mango flakes, salt, pepper, garlic, brown sugar and oil that was pretty damn good after I fired that thing up (gas with wood chips - wasn't lighting a chimney for a couple of breasts). Had it with bleu cheese crumbles with lettuce and tomato in a wrap.
HTHQuestion for the more experienced bbq guys. Make a pulled pork, chicken, turkey, ribs and brisket. All get rave reviews on the flavor but I rarely get a good smoke ring. Using a WSM, Kingsford competition briquettes and chunk wood. I get really good smoke flavor, just not a good smoke ring.
• Turn on burner on far left or right side and confirm your main chamber (rest of grill) can hit 225-250 without too much issue.Ok, so I've never made ribs myself. I'd like to give it a go this weekend. I have time, and a decent propane grill with "grill grates", but totally lost from there. Any thoughts? And don't go overboard, if there are more than 5 or 6 steps I'll just buy a rack or two from Outback to go....
Thanks!
mmmm perfect opportunity for cedar plank. Make sure you soak it for at least three hours before you put it on the grill. Great smokey flavor. I like it with either blackening seasoning or with a mustard based topping. Super jealous of you right now!Looking for advice on salmon fillets. I took 3 large sockeye and a coho out of Lake Michigan this morning and now have an impromptu family party tomorrow. The hard part for me is always the timing, not overcooked but not raw on the inside. I typically just add salt, pepper and olive oil, grill meat side down over high heat for 2-3 min, then flip and finish skin side down, usually 5-7 more minutes.
Tia
I'm not so sure about keeping them in plastic wrap in the ovenI think I'm going to keep them in the plastic wrap and also wrap them in foil and bake them at 225 for three hours and then do the last hour on the grill at 275.
Your approach seems fine. I love dill and fennel with salmon though.Looking for advice on salmon fillets. I took 3 large sockeye and a coho out of Lake Michigan this morning and now have an impromptu family party tomorrow. The hard part for me is always the timing, not overcooked but not raw on the inside. I typically just add salt, pepper and olive oil, grill meat side down over high heat for 2-3 min, then flip and finish skin side down, usually 5-7 more minutes.
Tia
Or this!mmmm perfect opportunity for cedar plank. Make sure you soak it for at least three hours before you put it on the grill. Great smokey flavor. I like it with either blackening seasoning or with a mustard based topping. Super jealous of you right now!Looking for advice on salmon fillets. I took 3 large sockeye and a coho out of Lake Michigan this morning and now have an impromptu family party tomorrow. The hard part for me is always the timing, not overcooked but not raw on the inside. I typically just add salt, pepper and olive oil, grill meat side down over high heat for 2-3 min, then flip and finish skin side down, usually 5-7 more minutes.
Tia