***Official*** Heroes Thread (2 Viewers)

[aardball44]

Pretty cool that we have our first "super-team" with Atomic guy, fax machine girl, and Parkman.

That sounds like a superhero with super-lame abilities.

"I can parallel park with uncanny swiftness and precision!"

 

[Fiddles]

is peter not affected by the hatian guy?

 

[MelvinTScupper]

Think that Hiro being able to push the bullet back into that chick's gun is important. He bended space/time just enough to back track the bullet, but keep the rest of time moving forward. I think that little trick will be important.

I meant to mention this as well. Curious if that was a SNAFU on the writer's part, or if you and I picked up on something.Plus, it shows that the sword is only symbolic.

 

[aardball44]

is peter not affected by the hatian guy?

The two of them met on the roof yesterday, but they were a good 30 feet apart. That may not have been close enough for Peter to gain the Haitian's powers.Had they met each other before? Can't...remember...

 

[SkyRattlers]

is peter not affected by the hatian guy?

What effect could the Hatian even have on Peter? He erases memory and blocks mental attacks. He wouldn't be able to do much against Peter's abilities.

 

[MelvinTScupper]

is peter not affected by the hatian guy?

What effect could the Hatian even have on Peter? He erases memory and blocks mental attacks. He wouldn't be able to do much against Peter's abilities.

are you kidding?He could make Peter forget he has any of these powers.

 

[NCCommish]

is peter not affected by the hatian guy?

What effect could the Hatian even have on Peter? He erases memory and blocks mental attacks. He wouldn't be able to do much against Peter's abilities.

are you kidding?He could make Peter forget he has any of these powers.

I think you would have cancellation. Didn't Parkman try to read Peters mind and that's what happened? Once Haitian is close enough to use his powers Peter has them as well.

 

[bryhamm]

is peter not affected by the hatian guy?

What effect could the Hatian even have on Peter? He erases memory and blocks mental attacks. He wouldn't be able to do much against Peter's abilities.

are you kidding?He could make Peter forget he has any of these powers.

I think it is assumed that the Hatian has to touch the person to wipe their memory.

 

[MelvinTScupper]

is peter not affected by the hatian guy?

What effect could the Hatian even have on Peter? He erases memory and blocks mental attacks. He wouldn't be able to do much against Peter's abilities.

are you kidding?He could make Peter forget he has any of these powers.

I think you would have cancellation. Didn't Parkman try to read Peters mind and that's what happened? Once Haitian is close enough to use his powers Peter has them as well.

I had thought of this as well. That's why they went for the taser. Knocked out, he couldn't have "cancelled" the Haitian.

 

[NCCommish]

is peter not affected by the hatian guy?

What effect could the Hatian even have on Peter? He erases memory and blocks mental attacks. He wouldn't be able to do much against Peter's abilities.

are you kidding?He could make Peter forget he has any of these powers.

I think you would have cancellation. Didn't Parkman try to read Peters mind and that's what happened? Once Haitian is close enough to use his powers Peter has them as well.

I had thought of this as well. That's why they went for the taser. Knocked out, he couldn't have "cancelled" the Haitian.

Good point, I thought of that after I posted.

 

[Marc Levin]

I like the confrontation at HRG's house.

Me too.

Hopefully it will be revealing. Does the Haitian come in and save the day?

IMO, no.

Will Claire run off with the other heros?

IMO, yes.

 

[SkyRattlers]

is peter not affected by the hatian guy?

What effect could the Hatian even have on Peter? He erases memory and blocks mental attacks. He wouldn't be able to do much against Peter's abilities.

are you kidding?He could make Peter forget he has any of these powers.

I don't agree that he can make you forget your powers. You may forget ever having used them before but they would still be there to be discovered again.

 

[Buckychudd]

They're going to have to do something to tone down Peter's powers....he has the potential to really unbalance the show.

 

[Buckychudd]

A little punch at LOST there...

Caught that as well Now has Hiro had his power all along or was the sword on the bus?

Just a mental block with Hiro, the sword doesn't have any real power.

 

[MelvinTScupper]

is peter not affected by the hatian guy?

What effect could the Hatian even have on Peter? He erases memory and blocks mental attacks. He wouldn't be able to do much against Peter's abilities.

are you kidding?He could make Peter forget he has any of these powers.

I don't agree that he can make you forget your powers. You may forget ever having used them before but they would still be there to be discovered again.

I never said the powers went away. If he doesn't know he has the powers, how would he ever know to use them?

 

[NCCommish]

They're going to have to do something to tone down Peter's powers....he has the potential to really unbalance the show.

He is the balance for Sylar. I forsee a mutual destruction thing when they go head to head.

 

[(HULK)]

They're going to have to do something to tone down Peter's powers....he has the potential to really unbalance the show.

Yup. He's gonna die. Or be depowered somehow.

 

[porkins]

is peter not affected by the hatian guy?

What effect could the Hatian even have on Peter? He erases memory and blocks mental attacks. He wouldn't be able to do much against Peter's abilities.

are you kidding?He could make Peter forget he has any of these powers.

I think you would have cancellation. Didn't Parkman try to read Peters mind and that's what happened? Once Haitian is close enough to use his powers Peter has them as well.

I don't think the Haitian was there for that. Peter and Parkman were both reading each others minds and getting feedback.The Haitian knocked Parkman out at the bar earlier in the season and wiped his mind of when they had him in custody. I'm not sure the Haitian was ever close enough to Peter before last night. IMO the Haitian needs to be super concentrating to subdue someone. He was aiming the stungun and wlking last night. That's how Nathan got away in Vegas. They were walking/chasing Nathan and the Haitian couldn't stop him.

 

[Native]

Hiro and Ando parting ways is the biggest breakup since the Beatles. :(

 

[Buckychudd]

They're going to have to do something to tone down Peter's powers....he has the potential to really unbalance the show.

He is the balance for Sylar. I forsee a mutual destruction thing when they go head to head.

Although it will be an interesting fight, Peter should wipe the floor with Sylar. Peter will have all the powers he has acquired plus any that Sylar has acquired.So assuming Sylar doesn't kill anyone in Peters current circle that will be Sylars powers + regeneration, flying, precognition, invisibility, time alteration (?), nuclear (?).

 

[(HULK)]

Quick thought:

Wasn't Simone in Peter's coma dream when he goes nuclear?

If she's dead, she can't be there. Maybe it was just a dream and NOT a precognative vision?

 

[Buckychudd]

is peter not affected by the hatian guy?

What effect could the Hatian even have on Peter? He erases memory and blocks mental attacks. He wouldn't be able to do much against Peter's abilities.

are you kidding?He could make Peter forget he has any of these powers.

I don't agree that he can make you forget your powers. You may forget ever having used them before but they would still be there to be discovered again.

I never said the powers went away. If he doesn't know he has the powers, how would he ever know to use them?

He could make Peter forget he met any of those people.....which would effectively take away his powers.

 

[Steve in Minneapolis]

They're going to have to do something to tone down Peter's powers....he has the potential to really unbalance the show.

He is the balance for Sylar. I forsee a mutual destruction thing when they go head to head.

Although it will be an interesting fight, Peter should wipe the floor with Sylar. Peter will have all the powers he has acquired plus any that Sylar has acquired.So assuming Sylar doesn't kill anyone in Peters current circle that will be Sylars powers + regeneration, flying, precognition, invisibility, time alteration (?), nuclear (?).

And possibly mind manipulation...since he was in close proximity to the Haitian last night...?

 

[(HULK)]

Peter is definitely too powerful to last long like this:

He can definitely:

Be invisible

Fly

Use telekinesis

Regenerate

Read thoughts

Future Painting

Sponge further abilities

He can MOST likely:

Bend time and space

He may be able to:

Go nuclear like Ted

Use suggestion like Eve

Erase Memories/Knock out people

Freeze ray?

It'll be an interesting battle with Sylar.

Sylar can definitely:

Play dead like a roach

Telekinesis

Super hearing

Melt stuff

Freeze ray?

More?

Regardless, they can't allow Peter to have all of these powers, or the show becomes off center because 1 guy can do everything the rest of the cast can do.

I think he'll either die as a result of the fight with Sylar. Or maybe suffer some sort of head wound that prevents him from using his sponge ability, and maybe make him lose powers he hasn't used yet. So, he's left with flight, telekinesis, invisibility, mind reading, future painting and regeneration. That might work, and it might explain Hiro's scar comment.

 

[Marc Levin]

Think that Hiro being able to push the bullet back into that chick's gun is important. He bended space/time just enough to back track the bullet, but keep the rest of time moving forward. I think that leittle trick will be important.

Noticed that, too - thought it was REALLY cool. Great power to have.

 

[(HULK)]

Do we think Peter has to have witnessed a power in use to use it?

Or just be in the presence of a person with a power?

 

[Marc Levin]

is peter not affected by the hatian guy?

What effect could the Hatian even have on Peter? He erases memory and blocks mental attacks. He wouldn't be able to do much against Peter's abilities.

are you kidding?He could make Peter forget he has any of these powers.

I think it is assumed that the Hatian has to touch the person to wipe their memory.

It's not assumed - Claire said so.So why was Parkman having such problems reading through HRG and the Haitan's thoughts a few episodes back? He got a bloody nose from the stress of trying to do that - you all remember that?

 

[Marc Levin]

is peter not affected by the hatian guy?

What effect could the Hatian even have on Peter? He erases memory and blocks mental attacks. He wouldn't be able to do much against Peter's abilities.

are you kidding?He could make Peter forget he has any of these powers.

I don't agree that he can make you forget your powers. You may forget ever having used them before but they would still be there to be discovered again.

Chicken and egg. The point is he can make you not use your powers.

 

[Marc Levin]

They're going to have to do something to tone down Peter's powers....he has the potential to really unbalance the show.

Yup. He's gonna die. Or be depowered somehow.

They called him a sponge.What happens when you squeeze a sponge? Everything falls out of it. Squeeze it hard enough and it'll be dry.

 

[Marc Levin]

Do we think Peter has to have witnessed a power in use to use it?Or just be in the presence of a person with a power?

Presence - how did he "witness" Parkman's mind reading?

 

[aardball44]

is peter not affected by the hatian guy?

What effect could the Hatian even have on Peter? He erases memory and blocks mental attacks. He wouldn't be able to do much against Peter's abilities.

are you kidding?He could make Peter forget he has any of these powers.

I think it is assumed that the Hatian has to touch the person to wipe their memory.

It's not assumed - Claire said so.So why was Parkman having such problems reading through HRG and the Haitan's thoughts a few episodes back? He got a bloody nose from the stress of trying to do that - you all remember that?

Maybe the Haitian touched himself, scrambling his own memories?

 

[Marc Levin]

Maybe the Haitian touched himself, scrambling his own memories?

That's a really funny way of putting that.

 

[UOFI_316]

It's not assumed - Claire said so.So why was Parkman having such problems reading through HRG and the Haitan's thoughts a few episodes back? He got a bloody nose from the stress of trying to do that - you all remember that?

I think that the Haitian was giving off his anti-mind reading ability. When matt was in the bar prior to his first capture the Haitain was able to cancel out his ability to read minds from across the bar. When Matt saw HRG and the Haitain walking the Haitain was using that ability.The haitain can always block people from reading minds or do quick mind wipes (used it when Eve tried to persuade HRG and he was across the room then) but in order to completely "wipe" a memory he has to be closer and concentrate more.

 

[Drifter]

They're going to have to do something to tone down Peter's powers....he has the potential to really unbalance the show.

He is the balance for Sylar. I forsee a mutual destruction thing when they go head to head.

Although it will be an interesting fight, Peter should wipe the floor with Sylar. Peter will have all the powers he has acquired plus any that Sylar has acquired.So assuming Sylar doesn't kill anyone in Peters current circle that will be Sylars powers + regeneration, flying, precognition, invisibility, time alteration (?), nuclear (?).

Actually, as soon as he inherits something like the hearing power, he'll be incapacitated.

 

[Marc Levin]

It's not assumed - Claire said so.So why was Parkman having such problems reading through HRG and the Haitan's thoughts a few episodes back? He got a bloody nose from the stress of trying to do that - you all remember that?

I think that the Haitian was giving off his anti-mind reading ability. When matt was in the bar prior to his first capture the Haitain was able to cancel out his ability to read minds from across the bar. When Matt saw HRG and the Haitain walking the Haitain was using that ability.The haitain can always block people from reading minds or do quick mind wipes (used it when Eve tried to persuade HRG and he was across the room then) but in order to completely "wipe" a memory he has to be closer and concentrate more.

Makes sense to me - thanks. I don't think he can do quick wipes from across the room, but I think he has some kind of mind control he can use within a certain proximity. I also believe he can project a shield that blocks other mind powers.

 

[Buckychudd]

They're going to have to do something to tone down Peter's powers....he has the potential to really unbalance the show.

He is the balance for Sylar. I forsee a mutual destruction thing when they go head to head.

Although it will be an interesting fight, Peter should wipe the floor with Sylar. Peter will have all the powers he has acquired plus any that Sylar has acquired.So assuming Sylar doesn't kill anyone in Peters current circle that will be Sylars powers + regeneration, flying, precognition, invisibility, time alteration (?), nuclear (?).

Actually, as soon as he inherits something like the hearing power, he'll be incapacitated.

Hmm, interesting thought.

 

[Verbal Kint]

is peter not affected by the hatian guy?

What effect could the Hatian even have on Peter? He erases memory and blocks mental attacks. He wouldn't be able to do much against Peter's abilities.

are you kidding?He could make Peter forget he has any of these powers.

I don't agree that he can make you forget your powers. You may forget ever having used them before but they would still be there to be discovered again.

Peter can only recall a power by recalling the memory of interacting with the person who has the power.

 

[UOFI_316]

It's not assumed - Claire said so.So why was Parkman having such problems reading through HRG and the Haitan's thoughts a few episodes back? He got a bloody nose from the stress of trying to do that - you all remember that?

I think that the Haitian was giving off his anti-mind reading ability. When matt was in the bar prior to his first capture the Haitain was able to cancel out his ability to read minds from across the bar. When Matt saw HRG and the Haitain walking the Haitain was using that ability.The haitain can always block people from reading minds or do quick mind wipes (used it when Eve tried to persuade HRG and he was across the room then) but in order to completely "wipe" a memory he has to be closer and concentrate more.

Makes sense to me - thanks. I don't think he can do quick wipes from across the room, but I think he has some kind of mind control he can use within a certain proximity. I also believe he can project a shield that blocks other mind powers.

In the scene with Eve it appeared that HRG was persuaded by her, then he looked at Haitain and it disappeared. I attributed this to the haitain immediately "wiping" the persuassion idea from his mind.Just my 2 cents.ETA, it may also be based on how long the memories have been in your mind. When he was "wiping" parkman's or HRG's thoughts they were new thoughts so they were on the surface of their memory. In order to do a deeper "wipe" he needs to be closer, concentrate more, and take longer.

 

[Marc Levin]

It's not assumed - Claire said so.So why was Parkman having such problems reading through HRG and the Haitan's thoughts a few episodes back? He got a bloody nose from the stress of trying to do that - you all remember that?

I think that the Haitian was giving off his anti-mind reading ability. When matt was in the bar prior to his first capture the Haitain was able to cancel out his ability to read minds from across the bar. When Matt saw HRG and the Haitain walking the Haitain was using that ability.The haitain can always block people from reading minds or do quick mind wipes (used it when Eve tried to persuade HRG and he was across the room then) but in order to completely "wipe" a memory he has to be closer and concentrate more.

Makes sense to me - thanks. I don't think he can do quick wipes from across the room, but I think he has some kind of mind control he can use within a certain proximity. I also believe he can project a shield that blocks other mind powers.

In the scene with Eve it appeared that HRG was persuaded by her, then he looked at Haitain and it disappeared. I attributed this to the haitain immediately "wiping" the persuassion idea from his mind.Just my 2 cents.

Well, my is that "persuasion" is a mental ability and if the Haitain projected a shield around HRG Bennett, her persuasion effect couldn't get through.

 

[Fiddles]

They're going to have to do something to tone down Peter's powers....he has the potential to really unbalance the show.

Yup. He's gonna die. Or be depowered somehow.

gonna be superman 2 all over again

 

[(HULK)]

Do we think Peter has to have witnessed a power in use to use it?Or just be in the presence of a person with a power?

Presence - how did he "witness" Parkman's mind reading?

Uh, Parkman read his mind when he was questioning him?

 

[malice]

Peter is definitely too powerful to last long like this:He can definitely:Be invisibleFlyUse telekinesisRegenerateRead thoughtsFuture PaintingSponge further abilitiesHe can MOST likely:Bend time and spaceHe may be able to:Go nuclear like TedUse suggestion like EveErase Memories/Knock out peopleFreeze ray?It'll be an interesting battle with Sylar.Sylar can definitelylay dead like a roachTelekinesisSuper hearingMelt stuffFreeze ray?More?Regardless, they can't allow Peter to have all of these powers, or the show becomes off center because 1 guy can do everything the rest of the cast can do.I think he'll either die as a result of the fight with Sylar. Or maybe suffer some sort of head wound that prevents him from using his sponge ability, and maybe make him lose powers he hasn't used yet. So, he's left with flight, telekinesis, invisibility, mind reading, future painting and regeneration. That might work, and it might explain Hiro's scar comment.

I think he'll end up severely wounded in the fight w/ Sylar, but he'll probably ask Mohinder to "cure" him of his condition so it doesn't happen again.If I had to lay money on one of the Petrelli's biting it over the long run, I'm taking Nathan as the 20:1 shot. He's being setup with the typical martyr-style storyline.

 

[shadyridr]

Umm who the hell is Eve?

 

[(HULK)]

Umm who the hell is Eve?

The chick with the power of persuasion who shot herself in the head.

 

[iamsmilin]

I think he meant Eden.

BTW what was the power Peter had last night with the voice pushing Isaac? Someone attributed it to Sylar, but I can't remember him ever using it.

Also, I don't think Peter went bad. He never really did any harm to Isaac, I think he was just confronting him. Isaac was the one who went all killer.

 

[shadyridr]

Umm who the hell is Eve?

The chick with the power of persuasion who shot herself in the head.

Isnt it Eden?

 

[shadyridr]

I think he meant Eden.BTW what was the power Peter had last night with the voice pushing Isaac? Someone attributed it to Sylar, but I can't remember him ever using it. Also, I don't think Peter went bad. He never really did any harm to Isaac, I think he was just confronting him. Isaac was the one who went all killer.

Sylar used it when he threw Claire's mother into the wall. I think its just included for effect.

 

[(HULK)]

Definitely Eden, not Eve.

 

[aardball44]

Definitely Eden, not Eve. :X

"Eden" = "Eve" when it's translated from English to Russian, then from Russian to Portuguese, and then from Portuguese back into English. :lostlanguage:

 

[Gamblor]

BTW what was the power Peter had last night with the voice pushing Isaac?

That was the rare power of halitosiskenis.