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oso diablo
Footballguy
Foosball God
Foos
He was just a
she recruited to do the video stuff. He is not her friend. That's why in Ep. 1 she promised to talk to him a school.
Twilight
Footballguy
Very interesting ep. A touch slow, but that is partly because of the multitude of separate characters. I think this should pick up once they get together.
Hiro - Definitely the most personality so far. Comic relief, but it has been very effective in these early goings. Is his friend doomed to be a Red-Shirt is my question, however. He doesn't have that permanent vibe to me, and just might be the foil for Hiro until he gets with the rest of the group. It would also give Hiro a more serious aspect if he was killed (By Sylar for example as an attempt on Hiro)
Claire - I would guess she couldn't push the stick out, and once the stick was removed (By the coroner?), she started healing. But not much in this ep, but standard Normal angst for her (Will she be happy that she isn't after this?)
Niki - As a note, Entertainment Weekly has a cast pic in the 10/13 issue (Doesn't seem to be on the Website) with some pretty useless blurbs comparing some of the cast with comic characters. The thing that is of note is who is standing next to Niki and Micah. I'm guessing it is Micah's father, so he should be showing up soon. And, as Foosball mentioned, she obviously had something to do with whatever he is accused of.
Matt - I'm assuming people noticed the Helix symbol on the guy's necklace at the bar. Was it a power, or a drug that knocked him out? And was it an associate of Sylars, or is Claire's Dad also hunting Sylar and any other powered people? Lastly, does Sylar have Claire's power (maybe from killing her real parents and absorbing it, a justification for the taking of the brains) or did he just stop the bullets by TK (which wouldn't make sense since then he could have attacked instead of running)?
Mohinder - The neighbor is definitely dirty, but who is she with? She obviously tipped someone to clean Sylar's apartment, but who? Could she be working with Mohinder's father (who is too recognizable an actor not to be alive)?
Peter/Nathan/Simone/Isaac - Not caring right now at all. This part of the storyline is definitely not working for me yet. Peter is just annoying, Nathan is a consumate politician (Which means he is a jackass, but the actor is playing him well), Simone is not trustworthy (The evil pic on 9th Wonders was seen in the background of the loft) and Isaac is still too one-dimensional to like.
Overall, I'm hooked on this show, big time.
Hiro - Definitely the most personality so far. Comic relief, but it has been very effective in these early goings. Is his friend doomed to be a Red-Shirt is my question, however. He doesn't have that permanent vibe to me, and just might be the foil for Hiro until he gets with the rest of the group. It would also give Hiro a more serious aspect if he was killed (By Sylar for example as an attempt on Hiro)
Claire - I would guess she couldn't push the stick out, and once the stick was removed (By the coroner?), she started healing. But not much in this ep, but standard Normal angst for her (Will she be happy that she isn't after this?)
Niki - As a note, Entertainment Weekly has a cast pic in the 10/13 issue (Doesn't seem to be on the Website) with some pretty useless blurbs comparing some of the cast with comic characters. The thing that is of note is who is standing next to Niki and Micah. I'm guessing it is Micah's father, so he should be showing up soon. And, as Foosball mentioned, she obviously had something to do with whatever he is accused of.
Matt - I'm assuming people noticed the Helix symbol on the guy's necklace at the bar. Was it a power, or a drug that knocked him out? And was it an associate of Sylars, or is Claire's Dad also hunting Sylar and any other powered people? Lastly, does Sylar have Claire's power (maybe from killing her real parents and absorbing it, a justification for the taking of the brains) or did he just stop the bullets by TK (which wouldn't make sense since then he could have attacked instead of running)?
Mohinder - The neighbor is definitely dirty, but who is she with? She obviously tipped someone to clean Sylar's apartment, but who? Could she be working with Mohinder's father (who is too recognizable an actor not to be alive)?
Peter/Nathan/Simone/Isaac - Not caring right now at all. This part of the storyline is definitely not working for me yet. Peter is just annoying, Nathan is a consumate politician (Which means he is a jackass, but the actor is playing him well), Simone is not trustworthy (The evil pic on 9th Wonders was seen in the background of the loft) and Isaac is still too one-dimensional to like.
Overall, I'm hooked on this show, big time.
Skippy the one eyed Beagle
Footballguy
I thought was that that was Sylar at the Bar. My other thought is that Sylar is the boy's dad.
rick6668
Footballguy
I thought the same.
I was wrong as well. I think it was a bit over the top, because as you said a big stick in her head is probably the cause of death. No real need to crack her open and check out the inside unless she was an organ donor. I am guessing not since they probably would do that ASAP, not just crack her and leave her sitting there.The only thing I was disappointed with was the attempted rape, it seemed to forced. On the one hand, the QB obviously liked her and described all of her quirks to her. The next minute he is trying to rape her. Maybe it was the alcohol, but it just seemed too out of character for a guy that notices his crush draws dolphins in her notebook. It seemed to me that the writers thought the autopsy would be cool, but had to figure out a way to get her there and used the rape to do it.Loved the episode though. Hiro and his buddy are great, so it will be interesting to see what happens with them. Assuming going to Las Vegas will mean meeting up with Niki.I am still unsure about all of the bad guys. The neighbor, Simone, Claire's Dad, Niki's MIL, Niki's ex-husband, Sylar, and the black guy at the bar are folks who could be good/bad as far as we know. I think we know Sylar is a bad person and he could be someone we have seen, but we don't know if he is actually part of the bad group of people who are going to try and blow up New York. Also, some Heroes could turn as well. We know Niki has a dark side and to be honest, with the money she had to have to buy that car, I was actually thinking that it was her ex-husband that was buried and that she took the $2 million for herself and doesn't remember it. We also saw in the preview that Claire is going to try and kill the QB, which will warranted, shows a bit of a mean streak.Hey, just thought of one thing. Is it possible that Sylar is the professor (Mohinder's Dad)? I think it isn't because of the recording of the two talking, but as mentioned above Mohinder's Dad was someone you feel like you have seen before (I think he was in Mr. Deeds as the bad CEO's associate), so he may come back later. Also, something about Sylar saying that the professor created him and seeing that they were both mapping everything out. Just thinking that maybe like Niki, the professor was a Jekyl & Hyde. Anyway, I know it is ridiculously unlikely, but thought i would throw it out there.Everyone that doubted the spoiler (myself included) was wrong. I didn't think they'd show something like that, but props to NBC for pulling no punches.
Neo
The Dude minds
Let's see....over the top, yep, the open stomach...the rape. How about Nicci digging and burying body parts with her son in the car 10 yards away...and he doesn't wake up!!! Give the kid a xanax! Hmmm, how many times is Claire going to get ####ed up an episode. Ok...OK....we get it, she can heal herself. Oh and from the coming attractions she is back in that cheerleading outfit once again next week (does she own any other clothes?) messing with the guy who tried to rape her. How does she pull that one off to her friends / family? "Died? Autopsy? I have no clue what your all talking about?" Oh yeah, how about the "I fell in love with you the first time I saw you line"? :XI was wrong as well. I think it was a bit over the top, because as you said a big stick in her head is probably the cause of death. No real need to crack her open and check out the inside unless she was an organ donor. I am guessing not since they probably would do that ASAP, not just crack her and leave her sitting there.The only thing I was disappointed with was the attempted rape, it seemed to forced. On the one hand, the QB obviously liked her and described all of her quirks to her. The next minute he is trying to rape her. Maybe it was the alcohol, but it just seemed too out of character for a guy that notices his crush draws dolphins in her notebook. It seemed to me that the writers thought the autopsy would be cool, but had to figure out a way to get her there and used the rape to do it.Loved the episode though. Hiro and his buddy are great, so it will be interesting to see what happens with them. Assuming going to Las Vegas will mean meeting up with Niki.I am still unsure about all of the bad guys. The neighbor, Simone, Claire's Dad, Niki's MIL, Niki's ex-husband, Sylar, and the black guy at the bar are folks who could be good/bad as far as we know. I think we know Sylar is a bad person and he could be someone we have seen, but we don't know if he is actually part of the bad group of people who are going to try and blow up New York. Also, some Heroes could turn as well. We know Niki has a dark side and to be honest, with the money she had to have to buy that car, I was actually thinking that it was her ex-husband that was buried and that she took the $2 million for herself and doesn't remember it. We also saw in the preview that Claire is going to try and kill the QB, which will warranted, shows a bit of a mean streak.Hey, just thought of one thing. Is it possible that Sylar is the professor (Mohinder's Dad)? I think it isn't because of the recording of the two talking, but as mentioned above Mohinder's Dad was someone you feel like you have seen before (I think he was in Mr. Deeds as the bad CEO's associate), so he may come back later. Also, something about Sylar saying that the professor created him and seeing that they were both mapping everything out. Just thinking that maybe like Niki, the professor was a Jekyl & Hyde. Anyway, I know it is ridiculously unlikely, but thought i would throw it out there.Everyone that doubted the spoiler (myself included) was wrong. I didn't think they'd show something like that, but props to NBC for pulling no punches.
Don't get me wrong, I like the show, will continue to watch it. I just find it's a little corny and tries to do too much at times.
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Twilight
Footballguy
Actually, I had something of a similar thought myself, but it didn't jibe with the "Patient Zero" thing mentioned in his dad's journals. But there is a connection there that we're not seeing yet.
I agree. That was honestly why I thought the spoiler was BS. We met the QB a few times and that was so out of character for what we have seen, that it seemed forced to me as well.I think that is why I like Hiro, Mohinder, the bad guys and Matt so far the most. I will probably keep watching because I still liked the show last night a lot, but Claire's deathwish/shock & awe is enough already. I agree on the Niki/kid waking up right after she's done. I am hoping that they stop trying to "shock" us and get on with the good parts of the story. For instance Hiro saving the girl was a great scene and also got Hiro's friend to come along, so it served its purpose.Let's see....over the top, yep, the open stomach...the rape. How about Nicci digging and burying body parts with her son in the car 10 yards away...and he doesn't wake up!!! Give the kid a xanax! Hmmm, how many times is Claire going to get ####ed up an episode. Ok...OK....we get it, she can heal herself. Oh and from the coming attractions she is back in that cheerleading outfit once again next week (does she own any other clothes?) messing with the guy who tried to rape her. How does she pull that one off to her friends / family? "Died? Autopsy? I have no clue what your all talking about?" Oh yeah, how about the "I fell in love with you the first time I saw you line"? :X
Buckychudd
Footballguy
Hiro is a great character. Wonderful to see them take that kind of risk with a major character.That is probably a better way to put it. There is definitely a connection there, but the posts earlier made me think that maybe we will see Mohinder's father again and the whole "you made me" thing just made me think more about how they were connected.On Sylar, it seems to me that I think he is Rogue-like as well or he knows how to use his hidden powers the best. What do we think that he can do?1. He appears to be able to heal himself. He got up after getting shot a number of times.2. He appears to be able to fly or teleport. He magically disappeared with no way out. I would think that it might be more likely that he can fly because there would be no need for running and he could have just teleported with the girl.3. He might be able to freeze people. We saw the frozen father of the little girl.Twilight said:
Drifter
Footballguy
I think that Sylar gets the power of his victims by eating their brains. That's why he has them mapped out - he searches them out to take their powers. Also note the bowl and spoon setting on the table in his apartment. Seemed out of place unless there is some allusion or foreshadowing of his diet.
Also from the brief talks about Mohindar's Dad's book, the theories about people's powers (flying has been specifically mentioned as per Peter's research last night), that powers aren't necessarily unique. That's why Sylar might already have flying and rapid healing.
Also from the brief talks about Mohindar's Dad's book, the theories about people's powers (flying has been specifically mentioned as per Peter's research last night), that powers aren't necessarily unique. That's why Sylar might already have flying and rapid healing.
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Drifter
Footballguy
Another thought on this
eter is going to stumble along with his "chameleon" power - never being effectiving, being frustrated but when the big showdown comes with Sylar, he is probably best equipped to take him on.Why on #2? If she was in a lab, it would have to be a bad guys's lab, correct? It doesn't seem like there are any good guys that know enough so far or would open her up like that. Also, if a bad guy, why no restraints and why pull the limb out and then leave? It definitely seems like a morgue to me, not much security needed with dead people. Plus, we have already seen her in the preview, so she wasn't kidnapped.
(HULK)
(Smash)
I think Horn Rimmed Glasses picked her up, cut into her out of curiousity, pulled out the branch and left.If she's in the morgue, why the heck was she opened up like that? Plus, if the explaination for that is that she is an organ donor, is she going to be walking around missing a kidney, liver, and heart for the rest of the series? This line of thinking just doesn't make sense. I think its more likely that the adoptive father cut her open in his own personal lab. Then left her organs next to her, pulled out the branch, and walked out.
Mario Kart
Footballguy
Adding to this we know that the little girl has powers too. He would not risk being found out by going to get her if she did not have some value to him. I also think, going off of this one, that the younger the people are the more power Sylar would get from them because the brain is not as specialized in youngsters. More benefit from kids. This also leads to the inability of Sylar to read minds as he would have been able to find the girl behind the stairs. Maybe she has some kind of projection power.
Dulymus Mudhounds
Footballguy
It was mentioned briefly earlier, but didn't get much play. the black guy in the bar could be Micah's father (my personal opinion). Or, the dead guy Nikki dug up could be the father. Seems Micah know's where his father is though, so the writers are trying to mess with us on this one.
Like the show and am hooked.
MO
Like the show and am hooked.
MO
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Irregardless.
I don't think the black guy is Sylar. I think the guy in the police precinct was Sylar and he seemed shorter and stockier (and maybe white).
I don't think anyone mentioned the black dude in the bar had the half-helix symbol on his necklace.
Also www.lasvegasniki.com resolves to 9thwonders.com
I was hoping for a webcam.
I don't think anyone mentioned the black dude in the bar had the half-helix symbol on his necklace.
Also www.lasvegasniki.com resolves to 9thwonders.com
I was hoping for a webcam.
(HULK)
(Smash)
I'll wager that guy who knocked out the cop somehow is NOT Nikki's husband.I think he's one of the bad guys. I think Nikki's husband will be a good guy.
Crimson Hawk
Axis of Evel
Mario Kart
Footballguy
My reasons why the black guy is Sylar:
He is very powerful for one. We know Sylar was in the area after killing the two parents. When the cop was trying to read his mind the black guy spoke in different languages and finally was silent which alerted the cop to his power. We know Sylar is well travled because of the map but we dont know how he travels. The black guy used whatever power he had and the cop fell over AND nobody in the bar even moved to see what was wrong. The black guy has the ability to control the whole room or whatever he is focused on. I tried looking at his hands and they were on the table but glasses were in front of them... no shot of the ring.
If the black guy is not Sylar then he is one powerful dude.
He is very powerful for one. We know Sylar was in the area after killing the two parents. When the cop was trying to read his mind the black guy spoke in different languages and finally was silent which alerted the cop to his power. We know Sylar is well travled because of the map but we dont know how he travels. The black guy used whatever power he had and the cop fell over AND nobody in the bar even moved to see what was wrong. The black guy has the ability to control the whole room or whatever he is focused on. I tried looking at his hands and they were on the table but glasses were in front of them... no shot of the ring.
If the black guy is not Sylar then he is one powerful dude.
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Foosball God
Foos
Foosball God
Foos
He's definitely not Niki's husband (Micah's father). The guy was too old for that.
Mario Kart
Footballguy
When Hiro gets back to his friend some interesting things to note on the comic book.
The issue is #14 and that was the November 8th publication (or near November 8th issue). If it is a weekly issue that leads us back to before people started finding out about powers. Also to note, at the end of the comic it said "To Be Continued" (we see that on the plane) so there may be 1 or 2 more that Isaac wrote up before being killed that would take place after the explosion.
I am not sure what numbered issue Niki's kid was reading. Will have to go back to see.
The issue is #14 and that was the November 8th publication (or near November 8th issue). If it is a weekly issue that leads us back to before people started finding out about powers. Also to note, at the end of the comic it said "To Be Continued" (we see that on the plane) so there may be 1 or 2 more that Isaac wrote up before being killed that would take place after the explosion.
I am not sure what numbered issue Niki's kid was reading. Will have to go back to see.
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Mario Kart
Footballguy
Note on Niki:
When she is leaving the desert after her son wakes up going to see his Grandma the road has many tire tracks/marks on it. I dont think this is a coincidence. I think that car and especially Niki has been there... many times before this particular incident.
When she is leaving the desert after her son wakes up going to see his Grandma the road has many tire tracks/marks on it. I dont think this is a coincidence. I think that car and especially Niki has been there... many times before this particular incident.
Verbal Kint
Footballguy
I haven't watched last night's ep yet, so I'm trying to stay out of the thread, but I wanted to throw out the possibility that Sylar is a doppleganger, so he very well likely could be a character (or characters) we've already met. I'm guessing he could be either or both of the girl in Mohinder's dads apt building or the FBI chick where Matt found the little girl.
Mario Kart
Footballguy
Watching the police station scene when they are chasing Sylar... we know that this guy is Sylar because of the death of the cop there. The guy running from the cops is white, with a burned/charred face. We see the hands a little bit and they are light in color but also we see his ears and the light shines through them to make a clear outline. The light kinda shines through them unlike if they were black ears.The black guy in the bar has powers or knows how to manipulate other powers of some kind. I am retracting my theory that he is Sylar and is the assisstant we see in the previews for next week. Sylar could be Claire's real dad.
rhawkins68
Footballguy
My thoughts on this.It looked like the stick had seperated her spinal cord from her mind. Maybe when it was removed a slight connection was made allowing her to start healing.Psychology Kev said:
Mario Kart
Footballguy
http://img212.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitleddv5.jpg
I hope this picture works... it is of the guy who was running from the cops making the cop pull her gun on herself... Sylar?
I hope this picture works... it is of the guy who was running from the cops making the cop pull her gun on herself... Sylar?
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I agree on the organ donor, if she was then they wouldn't leave her sitting in there. I could see an autopsy though, especially if there was a chance that the police think she was murdered.Again, I think it is the morgue, but they show her open just for the affect, not because that would be exactly what would happen in real life.I like the idea though that it wasn't the forensics guy that took out the branch. Maybe her dad did come in and do that, or maybe anothher "good" guy.I actually think we may be jumping the gun on the actual bad guys, i.e. Claire's father and the black guy in the bar. I would obvious lean towards them being bad, but I still wonder.
bryhamm
Footballguy
Definitely a white guy, so that rules out that Sylar is the guy from the bar.
Great picture. To be honest, I think it rules out anyone we have seen so far. It looked to me like a white guy with a beard. If anyone has seen Alias, it kind of looks like Sloan, except younger and stockier. Also, he doesn't appear to be wearing glasses, so I really think it isn't Claire's dad.This makes me think more and more that Claire's dad may not be a truly bad guy. We don't know if he was the one that killed Mohinder's dad and to be honest that Mohinder's dad is really dead. The guy that was rummaging through the apartment didn't shoot Mohinder, so they aren't exactly shooting first and killing people like Sylar is doing. He probably is bad, but not 100% on that yet.
Foosball God
Foos
She fell multiple times from 6 stories and was never too badly injured. I think they were just taking every opportunity to show us that she is neigh invincible.
iamsmilin
I want one, but I'm not creative
I don't think Sylar is the black man. I think the black man works with Claire's father. It's interesting to see that Sylar is slowly killing all the people who will have powers. I'm guessing the little girl will be featured later with a power.Psychology Kev said:NBC is keeping the black man down by making the baddest character Sylar. Hot diggity damn Claire was messed up. Who pulled the stick out of her head... was she where her father was with the mind reading guy? I dont think so because she was seen driving and possibly killing the quarterback. Hiro is a great guy. Some separation of good/evil is starting to form. Claire could be a bad person with the scenes from next week...
Mario Kart
Footballguy
This is a little better picture... a little larger I believe.
Mario Kart
Footballguy
I dont think the nurse guy has any powers at all. We have not seen his picture up on any map like his brothers. I think the only brother who has powers is the guy running for office and maybe that is why their dad had depression... he did not have powers while others around him did... the nurse guy is a Squib (Harry Potter reference).
Drifter
Footballguy
He did a good job walking on air in Ep2
(HULK)
(Smash)
More thoughts on Sylar.
He obviously has some sort of telekinitec power. He's left a trail of bodies stuck to walls and whatnot, and he made the girl cop hold the gun to her own head. At first I thought he was in her mind causing her to do that, but then I realized that he was more likely using telekinesis, given his other victims that we've seen.
Also, I think a strong telekinetic would be able to stop bullets in mid air (although he did fall when shot at?). Maybe he stopped them with a telekinetic shield or something, but the force still pushed him down? And, a strong telekinetic would be able to do some sort of force jump (maybe flying) thing to escape.
So, while people are speculating that he's stealing people's powers, it may be a case instead that he is just a strong telekinetic who has mastered his talent.
He obviously has some sort of telekinitec power. He's left a trail of bodies stuck to walls and whatnot, and he made the girl cop hold the gun to her own head. At first I thought he was in her mind causing her to do that, but then I realized that he was more likely using telekinesis, given his other victims that we've seen.
Also, I think a strong telekinetic would be able to stop bullets in mid air (although he did fall when shot at?). Maybe he stopped them with a telekinetic shield or something, but the force still pushed him down? And, a strong telekinetic would be able to do some sort of force jump (maybe flying) thing to escape.
So, while people are speculating that he's stealing people's powers, it may be a case instead that he is just a strong telekinetic who has mastered his talent.
I think it is the whole cutting out of the brains thing. Not really sure why he does that yet, so people speculate.Also, he may be able to stop bullets if given the chance. He was able to turn the gun on the FBI officer because she told him to stop. Matt came running in while he was trying to get her to shoot herself and shot him quickly. He might not have had time to react, thus actually getting shot. He then got up showing that he was able to heal himself.Anyway, it still could be mind control as instead of the gun being taken out of her hand and pointed at her (think Magneto with the cops in X2), her whole arm/hand moved as if it were her muscles doing the work. Just thinking, though, because we have no idea yet.
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
I think that Nikki was the one that killed her husband's "boys."
I think that the wannabe politician is actually a bad guy. I'm not sure that the timeline fits, but he may even be Sylar. I think that it's possible that Peter doesn't even have any powers and that his brother has the ability to make him float. If he can force people to do things against their will, it would also explain why Peter is saying that he really wasn't trying to commit suicide.
I'm definitely enjoying the show so far though.
I think that the wannabe politician is actually a bad guy. I'm not sure that the timeline fits, but he may even be Sylar. I think that it's possible that Peter doesn't even have any powers and that his brother has the ability to make him float. If he can force people to do things against their will, it would also explain why Peter is saying that he really wasn't trying to commit suicide.
I'm definitely enjoying the show so far though.
Alias
Footballguy
That is a pretty damn good theory - would explain why Sylar can fly.
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