Official Hillary Clinton 2016 thread (2 Viewers)

[timschochet]

Did you even think before you wrote that?  Hillary already compromised this country many times.

No she hasn't. And to answer your question I've thought about it very deeply. 

 

[Rohn Jambo]

Just a reminder, being able to clearly see through her lies and deception isn't the transparency people are hoping for.

I am still waiting for Hillary to give me some goodies too...

 

[Rohn Jambo]

Says every VP candidate since the beginning of the USA

Why so many VPs get nominated for the next 4 years?  Is it reward for being a yes man?

 

[Parrothead]

Kaine will now forever be associated with Hillary..  that's a stink that won't wash off..  I hope he has a trusted lawyer on speed dial.

 

[Rohn Jambo]

Kaine will now forever be associated with Hillary..  that's a stink that won't wash off..  I hope he has a trusted lawyer on speed dial.

I feel so bad for him.

 

[Rohn Jambo]

Hillary doing a very good job here. Kaine's resume sounds pretty impressive. 

Do you like Kaine more than Hillary?

 

[timschochet]

Kaine will now forever be associated with Hillary..  that's a stink that won't wash off..  I hope he has a trusted lawyer on speed dial.

Kaine will likely be the President 8 years from now. 

 

[timschochet]

Do you like Kaine more than Hillary?

I don't know enough about him. He seems like a good dude. 

 

[NorvilleBarnes]

Kaine will now forever be associated with Hillary..  that's a stink that won't wash off..  I hope he has a trusted lawyer on speed dial.

Speed dial? He'll now be completely staffed with "trusted lawyers"  - best way to invoke attorney-client privilege and avoid accountability.

 

[MaxThreshold]

Kaine will now forever be associated with Hillary..  that's a stink that won't wash off..  I hope he has a trusted lawyer on speed dial.

Not going to do much good when you're dead.  The best advice he can get is "don't disagree with her".

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Kaine will likely be the President 8 years from now. 

He could have been this year if he had run. 

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

exactly..  Hillary made sure she found a yes man who will look the other  way when needed..   ethical people with self esteem need not apply

Are you guys joking here?  VPs always have to fall in line.  George H. Bush (the good one, whodathunkit?) called Reagan's trickle down stuff "voodoo economics" before getting on board.  It's just how things work.

 

[MaxThreshold]

Kaine will likely be the President 8 years from now. 

And what are you basing this on?  Or are you just trolling?  If you're trolling, then well played, I took that bait.

 

[Parrothead]

https://forums.footballguys.com/forum/topic/721079-official-hillary-clinton-2016-thread/?page=1040#

Kaine will likely be the President 8  2 years from now. 

fixed- because the Clinton's won't be able to control themselves

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Hillary doing a very good job here. Kaine's resume sounds pretty impressive. 

The DLC is back, congrats, Democrats.

 

[timschochet]

And what are you basing this on?  Or are you just trolling?  If you're trolling, then well played, I took that bait.

Not trolling. I'm basing this on 4 likelihoods: 

1. Hillary is likely to be our next President. 

2. Hillary is likely to be re-elected. 

3. Hillary's VP of 8 years is likely to be the next Democratic nominee. 

4. The Republicans are likely not to recover from the Trump debacle for at least a decade, because they have lost the Latino vote for a generation (see California). 

So yeah I think it looks likely. 

 

[timschochet]

Not going to do much good when you're dead.  The best advice he can get is "don't disagree with her".

Max are you joining the MOP/Ham conspiracy club? Does Hillary have people murdered? 

 

[timschochet]

This guy is very impressive. Very good speaker. Natural. 

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

This guy is very impressive. Very good speaker. Natural. 

Could've won the nomination if he had run.

 

[MaxThreshold]

Max are you joining the MOP/Ham conspiracy club? Does Hillary have people murdered? 

I'm exaggerating for effect, but I think most people know what I mean.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Not trolling. I'm basing this on 4 likelihoods: 

1. Hillary is likely to be our next President. 

2. Hillary is likely to be re-elected. 

3. Hillary's VP of 8 years is likely to be the next Democratic nominee. 

4. The Republicans are likely not to recover from the Trump debacle for at least a decade, because they have lost the Latino vote for a generation (see California). 

So yeah I think it looks likely. 

Even if Hillary wins, 8 years as VP into being the next president has happened, what, once in the last 200 years?  And now it's "likely"?

 

[timschochet]

Even if Hillary wins, 8 years as VP into being the next president has happened, what, once in the last 200 years?  And now it's "likely"?

Well a lot of stuff can happen. But the main thing is I'm skeptical that the GOP will recover in 8 years. 

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

Possibly another impeachable offense?   Between this, Benghazi and emailgate, the next 2 years are going to be busy for the gop house.

What's "another impeachable offense?"

 

[timschochet]

Could've won the nomination if he had run.

Doubt it. Hillary wasn't going to lose the black vote no matter what and that's they key to the Democratic nomination. 

But I am really sold on this guy- I've never heard him speak before. He's great. 

 

[Don't Noonan]

Not trolling. I'm basing this on 4 likelihoods: 

1. Hillary is likely to be our next President. 

2. Hillary is likely to be re-elected. 

3. Hillary's VP of 8 years is likely to be the next Democratic nominee. 

4. The Republicans are likely not to recover from the Trump debacle for at least a decade, because they have lost the Latino vote for a generation (see California). 

So yeah I think it looks likely. 

California is never going red regardless

 

[timschochet]

California is never going red regardless

We used to be a red state. Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan. What do you think changed? 

 

[Rohn Jambo]

California is never going red regardless

This is one of the reasons Hillary wants open borders.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

"I didn't know that this guy existed until about 48 hours ago, and now I'm completely convinced that he'll be president in eight years."

 

[Don't Noonan]

Kaine is so much better than Hillary or Bernie.   At least if Hillary is elected, it is just a matter of time until Kaine replaces her when she gets impeached.  Then hopefully the Republicans put up a strong candidate in 4 years. 

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Well a lot of stuff can happen. But the main thing is I'm skeptical that the GOP will recover in 8 years. 

Even if this Trump thing goes down in a semi-blaze of fire that could very easily lead to the GOP overcorrecting in the other direction which would be very appealing to people in the middle.

A fairly moderate Republican would do very well in the general.  The problem has always been getting a moderate Republican on the ticket.  The worse Trump does the more likely that conservatives will let that happen next time around.

 

[Rohn Jambo]

Kaine is so much better than Hillary or Bernie.   At least if Hillary is elected, it is just a matter of time until Kaine replaces her when she gets impeached.  Then hopefully the Republicans put up a strong candidate in 4 years. 

So that's why the slogan has changed from "I'm with Her" to "I'm with Them"?  Hillary riding on Kaine's coat tails?

 

[timschochet]

Even if this Trump thing goes down in a semi-blaze of fire that could very easily lead to the GOP overcorrecting in the other direction which would be very appealing to people in the middle.

A fairly moderate Republican would do very well in the general.  The problem has always been getting a moderate Republican on the ticket.  The worse Trump does the more likely that conservatives will let that happen next time around.

I sure hope you're right. I'll vote for a moderate Republican. 

 

[Don't Noonan]

We used to be a red state. Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan. What do you think changed? 

I'm guessing you have been doing your best to brainwash as many people as you can

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Doubt it. Hillary wasn't going to lose the black vote no matter what and that's they key to the Democratic nomination. 

But I am really sold on this guy- I've never heard him speak before. He's great. 

Kaine's great but he wouldn't have won the nomination?

I disagree, his Southern pedigree is better than Hillary's.

 

[Shula-holic]

We used to be a red state. Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan. What do you think changed? 

Many reasons, but the chief among them is demographics

 

[badmojo1006]

Kaine will now forever be associated with Hillary..  that's a stink that won't wash off..  I hope he has a trusted lawyer on speed dial.

 Mike Pence has got it so much worse.  

 

[Quez]

Is this gringo going to speak Spanish at every speech?

 

[badmojo1006]

California is never going red regardless

We used to be a red state. Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan. What do you think changed? 

Prop 187.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Could've won the nomination if he had run.

Might have split the centrist vote and given it to Sanders.  But he'd certainly be a mortal lock with significant coattails against Trump.

 

[timschochet]

Many reasons, but the chief among them is demographics

About 40% of Hispanics in California used to vote Republican. Then came 1994- Pere Wilson and Prop 187. Ever since only 15-20% of Hispanics voted Republican. There's your difference. 

Trump is doing for the whole country what Wilson did for California, except even more so. 

 

[timschochet]

Is this gringo going to speak Spanish at every speech?

I hope so. It's awesome. 

 

[NutterButter]

Many reasons, but the chief among them is demographics

Ding ding ding

 

[badmojo1006]

Why so many VPs get nominated for the next 4 years?  Is it reward for being a yes man?

They get nominated the same time the President gets nominated and they get nominated so that they can take over in case the President is incapacitated. And why would you change a VP mid-stream, you need to show consistency. 

 

[Smack Tripper]

They really wanna push this tax return stuff?  I think the Goldman speeches are much more interesting.. Trump should call that bluff on the debate stage

 

[Shula-holic]

About 40% of Hispanics in California used to vote Republican. Then came 1994- Pere Wilson and Prop 187. Ever since only 15-20% of Hispanics voted Republican. There's your difference. 

Trump is doing for the whole country what Wilson did for California, except even more so. 

It's part of it.  Let's forget the Trump effect on Hispanics.  Demographics and race based politics is where we are today.  Just prior to Trump, the Republicans weren't getting 40% nationwide among Hispanics.  The white vote is also this way.  Put in Mitt Romney's percentages by race into the electorate of Ronald Reagan.  What do you see?  You see a landslide like Reagan had.  As a whole America clusters politically based on race today more than ever before.  I don't like it, but it's where we are.  The numbers bear that out.

 

[tone1oc]

Tim Kaine is killing it.   Great pick by HRC 

 

[Smack Tripper]

 Mike Pence has got it so much worse.  

but he had no future anyway

 

[Rohn Jambo]

They get nominated the same time the President gets nominated and they get nominated so that they can take over in case the President is incapacitated. And why would you change a VP mid-stream, you need to show consistency. 

I mean the the term after the current POTUS candidate leaves office.

 

[NutterButter]

but he had no future anyway

I'm starting to see a pattern with the people that Trump has surrounded himself with.

 

[tone1oc]

I'm so with Kaine, you could say I'm CoKaine