Official Hillary Clinton 2016 thread (16 Viewers)

[The General]

Can't wait for the Trump Clinton debates.

This is where I'm at.....time to move on.

I hope the republicans get their #### together and don't pick Trump but doesn't seem like it. Hillary will beat any of them most likely anyways.

 

[The Commish]

Can't wait for the Trump Clinton debates.

This is where I'm at.....time to move on.

I hope the republicans get their #### together and don't pick Trump but doesn't seem like it. Hillary will beat any of them most likely anyways.

it appears that we are destined for 8 more years of kicking the can down the road while the middle class continues to shrink

 

[IvanKaramazov]

Can't wait for the Trump Clinton debates.

This is where I'm at.....time to move on.

I hope the republicans get their #### together and don't pick Trump but doesn't seem like it. Hillary will beat any of them most likely anyways.

I actually thought the Republicans would regroup and get their #### together after Romney lost. Instead, they just went full on stupid. Can't believe Trump is leading at this point, and that the only guy close to him is Carson. That's absurd.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

I heard from people who would know that Hillary definitely suffered brain damage as result of her fall,and that she now has trouble processing complex information. If she released all her medical records, they would show that, but of course she won't release those because she doesn't want the truth to come out.

Imagine how much better she would done at the hearing if she wasn't brain damaged and could actually process complex informaton.

For the record, I've long viewed the Benghazi thing as a partisan circus, and the Republicans should have dropped it a long time ago. Hillary deserves criticism over all sorts of stuff, but not this.

 

[Ghost Rider]

I actually thought the Republicans would regroup and get their #### together after Romney lost. Instead, they just went full on stupid. Can't believe Trump is leading at this point, and that the only guy close to him is Carson. That's absurd.

The irony is that Trump and Carson are getting so much of the percentage of the pie in polls because many are sick of the "establishment," while at the same time the GOP establishment continues to show us why (botching the Libya thing, the Speaker of the House disaster, etc.). The GOP is such a train wreck now, they can't get out of their own way.

 

[timschochet]

Can't wait for the Trump Clinton debates.

This is where I'm at.....time to move on.

I hope the republicans get their #### together and don't pick Trump but doesn't seem like it. Hillary will beat any of them most likely anyways.

it appears that we are destined for 8 more years of kicking the can down the road while the middle class continues to shrink

You keep making this point. Exactly what can are we kicking down the road? What would you have our government do right now, without delay?

 

[The Commish]

I heard from people who would know that Hillary definitely suffered brain damage as result of her fall,and that she now has trouble processing complex information. If she released all her medical records, they would show that, but of course she won't release those because she doesn't want the truth to come out.

Imagine how much better she would done at the hearing if she wasn't brain damaged and could actually process complex informaton.

For the record, I've long viewed the Benghazi thing as a partisan circus, and the Republicans should have dropped it a long time ago. Hillary deserves criticism over all sorts of stuff, but not this.

 

[The Commish]

Can't wait for the Trump Clinton debates.

This is where I'm at.....time to move on.

I hope the republicans get their #### together and don't pick Trump but doesn't seem like it. Hillary will beat any of them most likely anyways.

it appears that we are destined for 8 more years of kicking the can down the road while the middle class continues to shrink

You keep making this point. Exactly what can are we kicking down the road? What would you have our government do right now, without delay?

you asked this before and my answer hasn't changed and I'm not repeating myself over and over when it's clear you don't care and/or aren't paying attention

 

[timschochet]

Seems to me the only thing being kicked down the road is a specific answer to my question which I can never get.

 

[The Commish]

Seems to me the only thing being kicked down the road is a specific answer to my question which I can never get.

Yeah...go fish someone else Tim. I've answered this specific question at least 5 times when you've asked in the past. You can accuse me of several shortcomings, but being elusive with my opinions is not one of them. If you genuinely cared, you'd have read it the first time and not have to ask me a second time much less a third, fourth, fifth, sixth.....

 

[Johnnymac]

The Benghazi comittee may end up being a big reason why Hillary gets elected. Why can't the Repiblicans see that? I mean, these are not stupid people (at least I would assume that), but their actions are very stupid. I'm not a big fan of Hillary but in watching her in these hearings she has handled herself tremendously. She is showing the american people she is capable of being president. Hillary is a very smart woman and I think she is capable but I don't see myself voting for her. I see her as a friend of wall street, big money corporations, and not a friend of the middle class.

Having said all of that, there is no way I'm voting for any of the republican candidates. All of them are either incompetent or very friendly with the rich, most of them both of those two things. I can't beleive this crop of candidates is the best we can do, but maybe that's the way it is in this country now. We don't have leaders anymore. The whole governement is owned by rich people and special interests.

Maybe Bernie Sanders will get my vote, only problem with that is he won't win the nomination.

 

[The Commish]

The Benghazi comittee may end up being a big reason why Hillary gets elected. Why can't the Repiblicans see that? I mean, these are not stupid people (at least I would assume that), but their actions are very stupid. I'm not a big fan of Hillary but in watching her in these hearings she has handled herself tremendously. She is showing the american people she is capable of being president. Hillary is a very smart woman and I think she is capable but I don't see myself voting for her. I see her as a friend of wall street, big money corporations, and not a friend of the middle class.

Having said all of that, there is no way I'm voting for any of the republican candidates. All of them are either incompetent or very friendly with the rich, most of them both of those two things. I can't beleive this crop of candidates is the best we can do, but maybe that's the way it is in this country now. We don't have leaders anymore. The whole governement is owned by rich people and special interests.

Maybe Bernie Sanders will get my vote, only problem with that is he won't win the nomination.

Genuine question....why does this matter if that's the person that most aligns with the direction you'd like to see this country move?

 

[Johnnymac]

The Benghazi comittee may end up being a big reason why Hillary gets elected. Why can't the Repiblicans see that? I mean, these are not stupid people (at least I would assume that), but their actions are very stupid. I'm not a big fan of Hillary but in watching her in these hearings she has handled herself tremendously. She is showing the american people she is capable of being president. Hillary is a very smart woman and I think she is capable but I don't see myself voting for her. I see her as a friend of wall street, big money corporations, and not a friend of the middle class.

Having said all of that, there is no way I'm voting for any of the republican candidates. All of them are either incompetent or very friendly with the rich, most of them both of those two things. I can't beleive this crop of candidates is the best we can do, but maybe that's the way it is in this country now. We don't have leaders anymore. The whole governement is owned by rich people and special interests.

Maybe Bernie Sanders will get my vote, only problem with that is he won't win the nomination.

Genuine question....why does this matter if that's the person that most aligns with the direction you'd like to see this country move?

I agree with many things Bernie is talking about and I do think he has got a strong grass roots movement. I just don't think he will win the nomination. But yours is a fair question, it shouldn't matter.

 

[The Commish]

The Benghazi comittee may end up being a big reason why Hillary gets elected. Why can't the Repiblicans see that? I mean, these are not stupid people (at least I would assume that), but their actions are very stupid. I'm not a big fan of Hillary but in watching her in these hearings she has handled herself tremendously. She is showing the american people she is capable of being president. Hillary is a very smart woman and I think she is capable but I don't see myself voting for her. I see her as a friend of wall street, big money corporations, and not a friend of the middle class.

Having said all of that, there is no way I'm voting for any of the republican candidates. All of them are either incompetent or very friendly with the rich, most of them both of those two things. I can't beleive this crop of candidates is the best we can do, but maybe that's the way it is in this country now. We don't have leaders anymore. The whole governement is owned by rich people and special interests.

Maybe Bernie Sanders will get my vote, only problem with that is he won't win the nomination.

Genuine question....why does this matter if that's the person that most aligns with the direction you'd like to see this country move?

I agree with many things Bernie is talking about and I do think he has got a strong grass roots movement. I just don't think he will win the nomination. But yours is a fair question, it shouldn't matter.

dang it Johnny. Thought you might be able to help me get to the bottom of that line of thought

 

[Todd Andrews]

Hillary should pay, she's the whole reason - the entire reason - this second round occurred.

You should pay, SaintsGowdy.

 

[Todd Andrews]

The Benghazi comittee may end up being a big reason why Hillary gets elected. Why can't the Repiblicans see that? I mean, these are not stupid people (at least I would assume that), but their actions are very stupid. I'm not a big fan of Hillary but in watching her in these hearings she has handled herself tremendously. She is showing the american people she is capable of being president. Hillary is a very smart woman and I think she is capable but I don't see myself voting for her. I see her as a friend of wall street, big money corporations, and not a friend of the middle class.

Having said all of that, there is no way I'm voting for any of the republican candidates. All of them are either incompetent or very friendly with the rich, most of them both of those two things. I can't beleive this crop of candidates is the best we can do, but maybe that's the way it is in this country now. We don't have leaders anymore. The whole governement is owned by rich people and special interests.

Maybe Bernie Sanders will get my vote, only problem with that is he won't win the nomination.

Genuine question....why does this matter if that's the person that most aligns with the direction you'd like to see this country move?

I dont ultimately vote for someone who shares 90% of my views and cant get elected, but do vote for some who shares 75% of my views and can get elected because common sense.

 

[RBM]

You're so kooky Todd.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Hillary should pay, she's the whole reason - the entire reason - this second round occurred.

You should pay, SaintsGowdy.

No problem, I'll just pull the cash out of my charity's offshore account.

 

[timschochet]

Seems to me the only thing being kicked down the road is a specific answer to my question which I can never get.

Yeah...go fish someone else Tim. I've answered this specific question at least 5 times when you've asked in the past. You can accuse me of several shortcomings, but being elusive with my opinions is not one of them. If you genuinely cared, you'd have read it the first time and not have to ask me a second time much less a third, fourth, fifth, sixth.....

No fishing. I've tried to read your posts quite diligently since I regard you as a thoughtful poster (though one I seem to disagree with a lot.) If there was something specific you wanted done, rather than a general complaint, then I missed it. I acknowledge the fault for that could easily be mine. My apologies for the earlier snarky response.

 

[dschuler]

I don't even see the point of doing rest of the debates. Hillary just needs to find a VP and gear up at this point. The first Dem debate was so extreme due to Bernie it had Hillary chuckling a little bit. She will start her move to the middle as soon as Bernie starts fading away. Unfortunately, I think he might hang around to blame more millionaires and billionaires and end up wasting some more air time.

 

[tommyGunZ]

One post. As all are well aware I am no Hillary fan. But she completely destroyed that stupid political witch hunt of a hearing. I agree with Erickson she is way too smart for them. They're idiots and the GOP should have to refund every dime they wasted on this travesty.

Bye

Everyone on that committee should have to pay back every dime out of their own pockets....GOP and Dems alike. The American people should be embarrassed that they elected these people to office.

I don't understand why the Democrats should be paying anything here. They tried to shut down the committee. During the Hillary hearing they were the only ones who showed a shred of sanity IMO.Why do we always have to go through this charade of "both sides are equally guilty"? In this case they're not. The Republicans are squarely to blame for this debacle.

They were willful participants. They didn't have to be part of it if they didn't want to be and no amount of mental gymnastics can change that. Not all that complicated really

No offense but that's really bad logic.

It's a statement of facts unless you are disputing the "willful" part. There's no logic in the statement

Do you understand why Democrats remained on the committee, despite believing it was a farce?

 

[cubd8]

The Benghazi comittee may end up being a big reason why Hillary gets elected. Why can't the Repiblicans see that? I mean, these are not stupid people (at least I would assume that), but their actions are very stupid. I'm not a big fan of Hillary but in watching her in these hearings she has handled herself tremendously. She is showing the american people she is capable of being president. Hillary is a very smart woman and I think she is capable but I don't see myself voting for her. I see her as a friend of wall street, big money corporations, and not a friend of the middle class.

Having said all of that, there is no way I'm voting for any of the republican candidates. All of them are either incompetent or very friendly with the rich, most of them both of those two things. I can't beleive this crop of candidates is the best we can do, but maybe that's the way it is in this country now. We don't have leaders anymore. The whole governement is owned by rich people and special interests.

Maybe Bernie Sanders will get my vote, only problem with that is he won't win the nomination.

It was odd; they (and/or) the media hyped these hearings, and what did they gain from it?

She claims to know nothing about the requests (I believe over 600) for more security; I thought that was interesting along with re-visiting her role in promoting the videos as the motivation for the attacks despite her knowing instantly that wasn't the case.

Saying that, at best, they got a former Secretary of State who may have delegated too much responsibility and didn't stay on top of some issues, but ultimately, this hearing wasn't needed for Republicans to continue that line of attack.

I think it was a good to great week for Clinton; not that 2 non-challengers dropping out helped her, but it furthers the media story line that she is 'next in line'. Biden isn't running, and while I don't think he would have been a threat once he entered, it's still great news considering how the media had a love affair with this story for weeks.

 

[cubd8]

Just let her take the oath already.

One hand on the Bible and the other giving the middle finger to Trey Gowdy?

That guy could type cast any character for a movie highlighting a KKK leader.

**I'm not accusing him of being a racist. He just looks the part.

 

[squistion]

Hillary Clinton @HillaryClinton

Hillary on the GOP debates: "It's reality TV - with a cast of characters who don't care much about actual reality." #IDPJJ

 

[cubd8]

Hillary Clinton @HillaryClinton

Hillary on the GOP debates: "It's reality TV - with a cast of characters who don't care much about actual reality." #IDPJJ

You could make the same argument about Democratic debate(s) where they try to outspend each other on the stage, and pro-claim global warming as the biggest threat facing the country.

This isn't an endorsement of Republicans. Donald Trump and/or Ben Carson winning (or) getting about 45% of the vote right now is insane. Carson was a brain surgeon, but can't apply that smartness to politics and Trump is a flat out moron.

Both parties are running way to their extremes right now; that's normal, but scary when you add that some of these people are probably serious on their positions.

 

[Johnnymac]

Does anyone see this country getting "better" from any of these candidates?

 

[cubd8]

Does anyone see this country getting "better" from any of these candidates?

No.

It comes, ,to me, to BOTH parties working together. That isn't happening today; it's always running to the next election.

 

[NorvilleBarnes]

Hillary Clinton @HillaryClinton

Hillary on the GOP debates: "It's reality TV - with a cast of characters who don't care much about actual reality." #IDPJJ

You could make the same argument about Democratic debate

No you can't. Not even remotely.

 

[Bottomfeeder Sports]

Can't wait for the Trump Clinton debates.

This is where I'm at.....time to move on.

I hope the republicans get their #### together and don't pick Trump but doesn't seem like it. Hillary will beat any of them most likely anyways.

it appears that we are destined for 8 more years of kicking the can down the road while the middle class continues to shrink

You keep making this point. Exactly what can are we kicking down the road? What would you have our government do right now, without delay?

you asked this before and my answer hasn't changed and I'm not repeating myself over and over when it's clear you don't care and/or aren't paying attention

Why should anyone care about your positions if you don't care enough to repeat them as many times as necessary to get your point across? Who cares if Timmy or me or whoever you are directly replying to will be receptive or even bother to read them? Who even cares if they are being "fished" when the opportunity to share your opinions with an audience presents itself?

Now in politics of the 21st century "kicking the can down the road" generally means not addressing our long term liabilities which threaten the viability of Medicare and Social Security. Seems to me that one side of the political spectrum took a stab at addressing this a few years back and paid a steep political price. It wasn't enough of course and might not even prove to be a long term success but it was more than "kicking the can down the road". And now we have a choice between those that want to build upon that attempt and those that want to simply replace it with more tax cuts. You asked why would anyone vote for Hillary if there is some fringe candidate that they agree with more? Because if the contest is close we should have learned our lesson from 2000. We can't afford any more of "tax cuts solve all problems" crowd.

 

[The Commish]

One post. As all are well aware I am no Hillary fan. But she completely destroyed that stupid political witch hunt of a hearing. I agree with Erickson she is way too smart for them. They're idiots and the GOP should have to refund every dime they wasted on this travesty.

Bye

Everyone on that committee should have to pay back every dime out of their own pockets....GOP and Dems alike. The American people should be embarrassed that they elected these people to office.

I don't understand why the Democrats should be paying anything here. They tried to shut down the committee. During the Hillary hearing they were the only ones who showed a shred of sanity IMO.Why do we always have to go through this charade of "both sides are equally guilty"? In this case they're not. The Republicans are squarely to blame for this debacle.

They were willful participants. They didn't have to be part of it if they didn't want to be and no amount of mental gymnastics can change that. Not all that complicated really

No offense but that's really bad logic.

It's a statement of facts unless you are disputing the "willful" part. There's no logic in the statement

Do you understand why Democrats remained on the committee, despite believing it was a farce?

Yes...for political gain and It was the goat rodeo of goat rodeos. This committee is a pretty good example of politics run amuck in this country.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Among the Democrats I think Sanchez did a good job. Cummings had the worst performance of anyone on the committee of either party.

 

[jon_mx]

Can't wait for the Trump Clinton debates.

This is where I'm at.....time to move on.

I hope the republicans get their #### together and don't pick Trump but doesn't seem like it. Hillary will beat any of them most likely anyways.

it appears that we are destined for 8 more years of kicking the can down the road while the middle class continues to shrink

You keep making this point. Exactly what can are we kicking down the road? What would you have our government do right now, without delay?

you asked this before and my answer hasn't changed and I'm not repeating myself over and over when it's clear you don't care and/or aren't paying attention

Why should anyone care about your positions if you don't care enough to repeat them as many times as necessary to get your point across? Who cares if Timmy or me or whoever you are directly replying to will be receptive or even bother to read them? Who even cares if they are being "fished" when the opportunity to share your opinions with an audience presents itself?

Now in politics of the 21st century "kicking the can down the road" generally means not addressing our long term liabilities which threaten the viability of Medicare and Social Security. Seems to me that one side of the political spectrum took a stab at addressing this a few years back and paid a steep political price. It wasn't enough of course and might not even prove to be a long term success but it was more than "kicking the can down the road". And now we have a choice between those that want to build upon that attempt and those that want to simply replace it with more tax cuts. You asked why would anyone vote for Hillary if there is some fringe candidate that they agree with more? Because if the contest is close we should have learned our lesson from 2000. We can't afford any more of "tax cuts solve all problems" crowd.

The only other choice is the party which promises endless more government programs to solve all our problems. Seems like both parties offer non-solutions to our known future fiscal problems. Great choices we have. Greece is our future only our problem will be far worse.

 

[timschochet]

Among the Democrats I think Sanchez did a good job. Cummings had the worst performance of anyone on the committee of either party.

Specifically what did he say that was unreasonable?

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Among the Democrats I think Sanchez did a good job. Cummings had the worst performance of anyone on the committee of either party.

Specifically what did he say that was unreasonable?

I was speaking of his tenor and tactics, which is frankly the kind of thing that I think people were expecting from Republicans. If you want chapter and verse ill be glad to but it'll get crowded in here.

 

[tommyGunZ]

One post. As all are well aware I am no Hillary fan. But she completely destroyed that stupid political witch hunt of a hearing. I agree with Erickson she is way too smart for them. They're idiots and the GOP should have to refund every dime they wasted on this travesty.

Bye

Everyone on that committee should have to pay back every dime out of their own pockets....GOP and Dems alike. The American people should be embarrassed that they elected these people to office.

I don't understand why the Democrats should be paying anything here. They tried to shut down the committee. During the Hillary hearing they were the only ones who showed a shred of sanity IMO.Why do we always have to go through this charade of "both sides are equally guilty"? In this case they're not. The Republicans are squarely to blame for this debacle.

They were willful participants. They didn't have to be part of it if they didn't want to be and no amount of mental gymnastics can change that. Not all that complicated really

No offense but that's really bad logic.

It's a statement of facts unless you are disputing the "willful" part. There's no logic in the statement

Do you understand why Democrats remained on the committee, despite believing it was a farce?

Yes...for political gain and It was the goat rodeo of goat rodeos. This committee is a pretty good example of politics run amuck in this country.

Oooof.

 

[The Commish]

Can't wait for the Trump Clinton debates.

This is where I'm at.....time to move on.

I hope the republicans get their #### together and don't pick Trump but doesn't seem like it. Hillary will beat any of them most likely anyways.

it appears that we are destined for 8 more years of kicking the can down the road while the middle class continues to shrink

You keep making this point. Exactly what can are we kicking down the road? What would you have our government do right now, without delay?

you asked this before and my answer hasn't changed and I'm not repeating myself over and over when it's clear you don't care and/or aren't paying attention

Why should anyone care about your positions if you don't care enough to repeat them as many times as necessary to get your point across? Who cares if Timmy or me or whoever you are directly replying to will be receptive or even bother to read them? Who even cares if they are being "fished" when the opportunity to share your opinions with an audience presents itself?

Now in politics of the 21st century "kicking the can down the road" generally means not addressing our long term liabilities which threaten the viability of Medicare and Social Security. Seems to me that one side of the political spectrum took a stab at addressing this a few years back and paid a steep political price. It wasn't enough of course and might not even prove to be a long term success but it was more than "kicking the can down the road". And now we have a choice between those that want to build upon that attempt and those that want to simply replace it with more tax cuts. You asked why would anyone vote for Hillary if there is some fringe candidate that they agree with more? Because if the contest is close we should have learned our lesson from 2000. We can't afford any more of "tax cuts solve all problems" crowd.

You are starting on the false premise that the point can be gotten across BFS. I don't believe that to be the case and I base that belief on the actions/requests. No one gives a #### what I think in reality and I don't think they should (at least any more/less than others here). All I ask is they own that reality and stop asking the same question over and over as if they really do care. That's all. Not that complicated.

I will also disagree with what your definition of kicking the can down the road is. At least it's not what I mean. Your definition is way more specific than mine. At a high level it simply means doing the same partisan while not getting much of anything accomplished then pointing the finger at everyone but themselves for why they couldn't get accomplished everything they promised in the first place. Then, us as voters accepting the promise failures and dismissing them as rhetoric or making excuses like "I can't believe you thought he was serious when he said...." The first part is on the politicians, the second part is on us. The first part exists because of the second. Our standards in this country suck and it's reflected in the policies our representatives produce.

 

[timschochet]

Really going to challenge you here Saints. Elijah Cummings is an emotional guy and he tends to yell, but I might yell too given the nonsense from the Republicans in that committee. I listened to him pretty carefully, not just Thursday but most of his comments in the past about this committee and I heard nothing that I didn't find reasonable. So again please explain how he was the worst in your opinion.

 

[The Commish]

Oooof.

Working on some new vernacular here? Good for you

 

[NorvilleBarnes]

Among the Democrats I think Sanchez did a good job. Cummings had the worst performance of anyone on the committee of either party.

Not his best day but overall he's been pretty clear on where the GOP has strayed from the stated purpose of the committee.

 

[squistion]

Among the Democrats I think Sanchez did a good job. Cummings had the worst performance of anyone on the committee of either party.

Not all shared that sentiment.

http://www.salon.com/2015/10/23/hillary_clinton_had_a_great_day_but_elijah_cummings_was_the_real_star_of_the_benghazi_hearing/

Hillary Clinton had a great day but Elijah Cummings was the real star of the Benghazi hearing

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Yeah Tim, Norv, it's a value judgement - to me talking about the "politics" of the issue instead of the facts and evidence to me detracts from what was already a bad process. That's especially where I fault Cummings and why I liked Sanchez, she buttressed Hillary's position by asking her to recount details, which by the way Hillary stayed focused as well. She did not run off into accusations and I don't think she needed Eli's hystrionic interference.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Sure Squizz no kidding people who enjoy government by slapfight likely loved Eli.

 

[tommyGunZ]

Among the Democrats I think Sanchez did a good job. Cummings had the worst performance of anyone on the committee of either party.

Specifically what did he say that was unreasonable?

I was speaking of his tenor and tactics, which is frankly the kind of thing that I think people were expecting from Republicans. If you want chapter and verse ill be glad to but it'll get crowded in here.

Good for you Saints. I always wonder who are the people supporting the right wing nutso Freedom caucus crowd, and then you come along and take shots at Elijah Cummings of all people from the Benghazi committee and remind me that there are act sully smart folks out there who buy into this nonsense.

 

[NorvilleBarnes]

Among the Democrats I think Sanchez did a good job. Cummings had the worst performance of anyone on the committee of either party.

Not all shared that sentiment.

http://www.salon.com/2015/10/23/hillary_clinton_had_a_great_day_but_elijah_cummings_was_the_real_star_of_the_benghazi_hearing/

Hillary Clinton had a great day but Elijah Cummings was the real star of the Benghazi hearing

That first video is very interesting. I hadn't seen that before.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Tommy this isn't an either/or situation, just having a discussion. I can think Cummings did the worst and that Sanchez did the best among the Democrats and not advance the goppers at the same time.

Pompeo followed 2nd to Cummings IMO, plenty of maneur being thrown around.

 

[squistion]

Sure Squizz no kidding people who enjoy government by slapfight likely loved Eli.

That was not the tone of the article if you bothered to read it.

And among the points Cummings made which resonated with viewers:

By the end, Cummings had delivered a full-throated defense of Hillary Clintons honor and apologized for a days worth of tasteless insinuations from his Republican colleagues who suggested that Clinton did not care enough to save her friend, Ambassador Chris Stevens.

"I dont know what we want from you," Cummings said, throwing up his hands in frustration. "Do we want to badger you over and over again until you do get so tired so we get the gotcha moment?"

"We are so much better! Were better than using taxpayer dollars to try to destroy a campaign! Thats not what America is all about!"

 

[NorvilleBarnes]

Yeah Tim, Norv, it's a value judgement - to me talking about the "politics" of the issue instead of the facts and evidence to me detracts from what was already a bad process. That's especially where I fault Cummings and why I liked Sanchez, she buttressed Hillary's position by asking her to recount details, which by the way Hillary stayed focused as well. She did not run off into accusations and I don't think she needed Eli's hystrionic interference.

I disagree. The real problem is the political witch hunt, not the exposing it.

 

[timschochet]

See to me, Saints this just comes off as the same old "gotta find somebody bad on both sides" meme. IMO, and this goes for both you and The Commish, any blame or criticism of any Democrat on that committee is absurd and unwarranted.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Yeah Tim, Norv, it's a value judgement - to me talking about the "politics" of the issue instead of the facts and evidence to me detracts from what was already a bad process. That's especially where I fault Cummings and why I liked Sanchez, she buttressed Hillary's position by asking her to recount details, which by the way Hillary stayed focused as well. She did not run off into accusations and I don't think she needed Eli's hystrionic interference.

I disagree. The real problem is the political witch hunt, not the exposing it.

I'm not going to outright disagree with you, I'll think about it.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

See to me, Saints this just comes off as the same old "gotta find somebody bad on both sides" meme. IMO, and this goes for both you and The Commish, any blame or criticism of any Democrat on that committee is absurd and unwarranted.

Not really, like I said it's a value judgement. To me the GOP saying "you're a lying liar, aren't you?", which happened a few times, is the equivalent.

It's odd how the accusation that information was put out for political reasons has been defended with an accusation that the accusation was made for political reasons, politically (again) in another political season.