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Holy ####!  We have a Hillary Bombshell courtesy of Judicial Watch.

Net of it:. They sued State to release a transcript from the day after the Benghazi attack, and let's just say she's going to have a really, really hard couple of weeks trying to wiggle out of this, and charges of lying to Congress.

www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/state-department-belatedly-releases-new-clinton-benghazi-documents/

“There are two scandals here.  The first is Hillary Clinton was telling different stories to different foreign leaders about the Benghazi attack – including an admission that it was a terrorist attack,” said Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton. “The second is the State Department’s cover-up of these documents.  The State Department is forcing Judicial Watch to play ‘whack-a-mole’ with Clinton and Benghazi documents.  It is no wonder that two frustrated federal court judges granted Judicial Watch discovery into the Clinton FOIA issues"

Victory for all who know what Hillary is made of.

 
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meh - seems like rehashing things we know - Hillary, and the Administration, tried to blame the video first, and only later publicly acknowledged that was not true.

60+% of the public already view her as dishonest - I doubt this budges the number. 

 
Just to put a finer point on it...  Remember those protester dragged out of a rally a few weeks ago for saying Hillary lied to the faces of the relatives of those killed in Benghazi by saying they'd punish the maker of the video?  Yeah, well, lying Mrs. Clinton did.  She knew immediately that this was a terrorist attack and lied, lied, lied... And now it's on record.  

We can and should not believe a word out her mouth.  This really ought to finish her, indictment or no indictment,. 

 
Sinn Fein said:
meh - seems like rehashing things we know - Hillary, and the Administration, tried to blame the video first, and only later publicly acknowledged that was not true.

60+% of the public already view her as dishonest - I doubt this budges the number. 
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I believe she was on record as saying she initially believed it was the video, and then it came to light over days that it was an attack.  Now she's giving different accounts to different leaders, and it's apparent she knew prior to when she acknowledged.  Parse this versus her testimony and I believe she has a problem.

 
Great work by Clinton pushing for Sanders' tax returns.  Really good stuff in there.

Surprised he didn't use an EZ form for those.

 
I don't get the Bengazi thing but then again I never paid it that much attention. Does it really matter what motivated terrorists to attack the embassy? Isn't the bigger issue that the State Departmentioned utterly failed in protecting our people? I do agree that this is just one more example of how she just has a hard time with the true. She can't get out of her own way. Not great traits for POTUS and Commander in Chief as she keeps running around and trumpeting she is the most ready for.

 
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I didn't watch the debate...did Hillary really pressure Bernie to release this?  What was she trying to accomplish?
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She's trying to insinuate that everyone has something to hide so her actions are OK. She also wrapped herself around Obama like a boa constrictor. He did it too!

 
Tonight Hillary Clinton is hosting a fundraiser at the home of a California venture capitalist where couples contributing $353,000 get to sit at a table with George Clooney.

Now, you know where this campaign stands on George Clooney. YUGE fans. But a political contribution of $353,000?!??! That’s just an obscene amount of money.

And while the Clinton campaign repeatedly claims this money to her “Victory Fund” goes toward supporting the DNC, campaign finance records show they’ve spent millions of those dollars to subsidize their own campaign. It is, let’s just say, a very creative way to use enormous checks from people like Alice Walton (yes, Wal-Mart) to cover what would otherwise be campaign expenses.

So, we’ve set another ambitious goal, because that’s what this campaign is about: setting ambitious goals and watching people come together to meet them. Here it is:

Help Bernie raise $353,000 before midnight. Not in a single check, but in $27 increments. Add your contribution to the thousands being made right now.

New York votes in just four days, and we have a chance to shock the world right in Hillary Clinton’s backyard. Over 19,000 people came to see Bernie at a rally in the Bronx. Then 27,000 joined him at Washington Square Park. And last night chants of Bernie! Bernie! Bernie! echoed through the debate venue after Bernie’s closing remarks. We can do this. Maybe not in $353,000 chunks, but $27 at a time.

In solidarity,

Jeff Weaver
Campaign Manager
Bernie 2016

 
squistion said:
So everybody has released their speech transcripts? How did I miss that in the news? Really surprised Trump and Cruz did it.
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As a good liberal, do you take a shower after defending Hillary on this type of stuff or have you rationalized it away to the point where a shower isn't necessary?

 
cap'n grunge said:
I don't get the Bengazi thing but then again I never paid it that much attention. Does it really matter what motivated terrorists to attack the embassy? Isn't the bigger issue that the State Departmentioned utterly failed in protecting our people? I do agree that this is just one more example of how she just has a hard time with the true. She can't get out of her own way. Not great traits for POTUS and Commander in Chief as she keeps running around and trumpeting she is the most ready for.
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It's not what motivated the terrorists.  It was the attempt by Hillary's State Department to try to dispatch of it in a single news cycle by lying about why it occurred -- and questions about whether proper security was withheld to obscure what was happening for political reasons.  This latest release of transcripts contradicts Hillary's lies that at first in the haze of war she thought the video was responsible until (after she lied to the faces of the victims' families) the truth emerged.

Well here we have proof that she knew early on that this was a terrorist attack, which calls into question her entire account.

 
squistion said:
It would be a stupid demand she would ignore as the GOP candidates have not yet released theirs.
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She has been hinging her transcripts to Sanders' release of tax returns, that has been happening. 

I think whether Cruz or Trump have been doing paid speeches and to whom is interesting, and I'd be curious to know what details you've found on it - any? - but Hillary's not in the general yet. I don't know why she gets into there nutty unwinnable games.

 
SaintsInDome2006 said:
She has been hinging her transcripts to Sanders' release of tax returns, that has been happening. 

I think whether Cruz or Trump have been doing paid speeches and to whom is interesting, and I'd be curious to know what details you've found on it - any? - but Hillary's not in the general yet. I don't know why she gets into there nutty unwinnable games.
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 No she didn't do that. I would say that you are better than that, but your posts of late don't back that up.

 
During a Sept. 12 phone call with then-Egyptian Prime Minister Hisham Kandil Clinton said that the Benghazi attacks “had nothing to do with the film.”

“You’re not kidding. Based on the information we saw today we believe that group that claimed responsibility for this is affiliated with al-Qaeda,” Kandil responded to Clinton during their chat.

Clinton’s call with Kandil was referred to during Clinton’s Oct. 22 testimony in front of the House Select Committee on Benghazi. As was an email that Clinton exchanged with her daughter, Chelsea, on the night of the attack. In that email she acknowledged that an “Al Qaeda-like group” had carried out the attack.

...Further complicating matters is Clinton’s statement during the Oct. 22 Select Committee hearing and during a Democratic debate that she believes that the video did play a role in the Bengahzi attacks.

Read more:  http://dailycaller.com/2016/04/14/new-documents-prove-hillary-told-conflicting-stories-about-benghazi-video/#ixzz45xApvn7f

 
squistion said:
She never said that if Bernie released his tax returns she would release her speech transcripts. Never.
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Pull the camera back.  She has taken a line of defense as a diversion.  Her premise is that she's being held to a higher standard and specifically points to Sanders failure to release tax returns as the example.  First, I'd argue this is a ridiculous apples to oranges comparison and the American People want to see those transcripts, including Democratic voters. It's becoming evident that those transcripts are damaging.  

Bernie accepted her challenge and held himself to the standard she set.  He has no transcripts to release.

Now if you're now going to argue that the standard is all Republican and Democrat candidates, it's simply posturing and an impossible standard. Her direct challenger met her conditions and thus there is no higher standard being asked if her.

Failure to release = something to hide.

More pointedly--now that the spun reason she have has been invalidated -- what's your personal reason why releasing these transcripts would be unfair?  

 
Squiz I'm totally in favor of the Goppers turning over their transcripts. Personally I don't think Hillary had to take the position she did. She could have said they were private and her property, which they are, end of story. But no, now she's gotten into this trade off thing.

She said Sanders had to turn over his taxes, to "get to the next stage", he did. Now what is the next stage?

What is she getting at with Trump or Cruz though? It's not just that Hillary speaks (and Bill), it's who she speaks to, corporations with major business before State and the US gov.

I'm interested in this stuff. Who is it that Hillary says Trump has spoken to on that magnitude?

This is the story I've seen on Trump, typical jackhole maneuver from him where he told someone he would speak for free and then renegged for a $100K fee - at a real estate convention.

Squiz, who is Hillary claiming Trump or Cruz spoke to? And why do we think anyone was transcribing every word?

 
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SaintsInDome2006 said:
You listened to that?
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I didn't have to. I saw the debate last night. I know her position on this. She has not been holding off on the transcripts waiting for Bernie to release his tax returns, and to insist otherwise is ludicrous.

To repeat, she has never made it conditional, that if Bernie releases his tax returns she would release her speech transcripts. She has always maintained with the transcripts that she will do so once everyone else does. And everyone else's transcripts can not mean, under anyone's definition Bernie's tax returns. Please.

 
squistion said:
I didn't have to. I saw the debate last night. I know her position on this. She has not been holding off on the transcripts waiting for Bernie to release his tax returns, and to insist otherwise is ludicrous.

To repeat, she has never made it conditional, that if Bernie releases his tax returns she would release her speech transcripts. She has always maintained with the transcripts that she will do so once everyone else does. And everyone else's transcripts can not mean, under anyone's definition Bernie's tax returns. Please.
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Always love your unwillingness to risk absorbing new information. - So in the general, now that Sanders has released his return, if Trump or Cruz release any transcripts they have, she would release any she has, you think?

 
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squistion said:
I didn't have to. I saw the debate last night. I know her position on this. She has not been holding off on the transcripts waiting for Bernie to release his tax returns, and to insist otherwise is ludicrous.

To repeat, she has never made it conditional, that if Bernie releases his tax returns she would release her speech transcripts. She has always maintained with the transcripts that she will do so once everyone else does. And everyone else's transcripts can not mean, under anyone's definition Bernie's tax returns. Please.
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Oh boy.  You really need to listen to Saints' link!!!

 
squistion said:
I didn't have to. I saw the debate last night. I know her position on this. She has not been holding off on the transcripts waiting for Bernie to release his tax returns, and to insist otherwise is ludicrous.

To repeat, she has never made it conditional, that if Bernie releases his tax returns she would release her speech transcripts. She has always maintained with the transcripts that she will do so once everyone else does. And everyone else's transcripts can not mean, under anyone's definition Bernie's tax returns. Please.
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Are you interested personally in what she said in those speeches?  

 
cap'n grunge said:
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/tom-blumer/2016/02/24/press-mostly-accepts-hillary-clintons-bogus-speech-transcript

Thus, Mrs. Clinton's "challenge" is nothing but a set of hollow words. From all appearances, no other significant rival for the presidency on either side of the aisle has given 40-minutes speeches to Wall Street firms and big banks and "earned" roughly $250,000 per speech for doing so.

There you go Hillary. You're in the wilderness on this one.

RELEASE YOUR TRANSCRIPTS!
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Hello? Tap tap tap. Is this thing on?

 
squistion said:
I didn't have to. I saw the debate last night. I know her position on this. She has not been holding off on the transcripts waiting for Bernie to release his tax returns, and to insist otherwise is ludicrous.

To repeat, she has never made it conditional, that if Bernie releases his tax returns she would release her speech transcripts. She has always maintained with the transcripts that she will do so once everyone else does. And everyone else's transcripts can not mean, under anyone's definition Bernie's tax returns. Please.
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Hillary was asked about releasing her transcripts and brought up Bernie not releasing his tax returns but other than that there is definitely no correlation.

 
SaintsInDome2006 said:
So in the general, now that Sanders has released his return, if Trump or Cruz release any transcripts they have, she would release any she has, you think?
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No reason that she should. People are calling for her to release all her transcripts, not just any, not just a few, not just some, but all. Her critics are calling for all her transcripts and for an even playing field she is calling for all their transcripts in return. Fair is fair.  But Trump/Cruz are not going to be releasing transcripts any of their private donor speeches, so the point is moot.

 
I will release all my transcripts when all my opponents release all their non-existent ones. You say that would be impossible? Aha! I've won! Suck it.

 
squistion said:
No reason that she should. People are calling for her to release all her transcripts, not just any, not just a few, not just some, but all. Her critics are calling for all her transcripts and for an even playing field she is calling for all their transcripts in return. Fair is fair.  But Trump/Cruz are not going to be releasing transcripts any of their private donor speeches, so the point is moot.
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:lmao:   A person must have zero shame to protect Hillary like you do.  

 
squistion said:
No reason that she should. People are calling for her to release all her transcripts, not just any, not just a few, not just some, but all. Her critics are calling for all her transcripts and for an even playing field she is calling for all their transcripts in return. Fair is fair.  But Trump/Cruz are not going to be releasing transcripts any of their private donor speeches, so the point is moot.
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All you're doing as a Hillary supporter is reaffirming the fact that Hillary is horrible.

 
Being a Hillary supporter is like a test run for being a Public Defender...if you can defend her you can defend anyone...

 
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