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Official Hillary Clinton 2016 thread (7 Viewers)

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Bill sighting! Off on the edge of the stage. One little wave and he lights up a whole section. Guys got more charisma in his little finger than Hillary has in her whole body.

 
So we turn to April 26 now. Will get her delegate lead back in the neighborhood of 300. Apparently won't matter to Sanders from what his campaign manager is saying but whatever. Just keep trucking along. Win the pledged delegates. Win the popular vote. And then feast on trump or Cruz in the general. 

 
Trey said:
So we turn to April 26 now. Will get her delegate lead back in the neighborhood of 300. Apparently won't matter to Sanders from what his campaign manager is saying but whatever. Just keep trucking along. Win the pledged delegates. Win the popular vote. And then feast on trump or Cruz in the general. 
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"Cant wait!" - Bart Scott voice

 
Rubiobot said:
Link to sources from legitimate scholarly journals that you have provided?
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They're in this post. Scroll down and you'll see all the links.

https://forums.footballguys.com/forum/topic/742411-official-build-the-wall-thread/?do=findComment&comment=19035510

The U.S. Civil Rights Commission themselves discovered that African-Americans are the biggest victims of illegal immigration.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/03/16/u-s-civil-rights-commissioner-illegal-immigration-disproportionately-harms-black-americans/

 
TobiasFunke said:
Holy moly.  If this is some sort of Trump/Sanders parody account, kudos for your commitment to the bit my man.
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You're supporter of the Butcher of Babylon. 300,000+ Muslims murdered/killed, Global NeoCon Warfare normalized, trillions of money that could have spent in America instead funneled to globalist fatcats. And they all support Hillary. And so do you.

But I'm gonna have some fun with ya TobFu. You'll especially enjoy my new presence here.

 
Can you people tell me what you like about Hillary? Everyone I know, including me, hates her. She's the biggest liar out of all the candidates and generally a despicable person. There's Benghazi and the email scandal. Minorities and women love her but why do you?  is it just because you're democrats and have no choice?

All that being said I'd still vote for her over trump.

 
shadyridr said:
Can you people tell me what you like about Hillary? Everyone I know, including me, hates her. She's the biggest liar out of all the candidates and generally a despicable person. There's Benghazi and the email scandal. Minorities and women love her but why do you?  is it just because you're democrats and have no choice?

All that being said I'd still vote for her over trump.
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But why? We're NYers. We don't have to worry about our vote effecting an election. Why not look at Johnson and Stein, see who you agree with the most and vote the best candidate? If that's HRC, great, but there are a lot more options than turd sandwich and giant  douchenozzle.

 
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shadyridr said:
Can you people tell me what you like about Hillary? Everyone I know, including me, hates her. She's the biggest liar out of all the candidates and generally a despicable person. There's Benghazi and the email scandal. Minorities and women love her but why do you?  is it just because you're democrats and have no choice?

All that being said I'd still vote for her over trump.
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I don't like "her" but I like her resume. I like her pragmatism. I like her knowledge of the issues and intellect and understanding of what the office of president of the United States is. 

I was an independent who changed to democrat in 2008 to vote AGAINST Hillary and campaign for Obama.  I'm not a fan of her necessarily, but she certainly has grown on me this debate season. Would I have preferred new blood, sure. 

But Cruz, Trump, and Sanders have no business being in the White House (and in that order). So Hillary will get an enthusiastic vote from me, because of the candidates we have, she really is the lone qualified choice. And she is actually immensely qualified and will have actual knowledgeable people in her cabinet as well. 

 
Leeroy Jenkins said:
I don't like "her" but I like her resume. I like her pragmatism. I like her knowledge of the issues and intellect and understanding of what the office of president of the United States is. 

I was an independent who changed to democrat in 2008 to vote AGAINST Hillary and campaign for Obama.  I'm not a fan of her necessarily, but she certainly has grown on me this debate season. Would I have preferred new blood, sure. 

But Cruz, Trump, and Sanders have no business being in the White House (and in that order). So Hillary will get an enthusiastic vote from me, because of the candidates we have, she really is the lone qualified choice. And she is actually immensely qualified and will have actual knowledgeable people in her cabinet as well. 
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Honest question...not trying to bust nads...what are her concrete accomplishments?

 
shadyridr said:
Can you people tell me what you like about Hillary? Everyone I know, including me, hates her. She's the biggest liar out of all the candidates and generally a despicable person. There's Benghazi and the email scandal. Minorities and women love her but why do you?  is it just because you're democrats and have no choice?

All that being said I'd still vote for her over trump.
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I like her laugh and facial expressions. I also enjoy how she talks with a controlled voice at a tolerable volume. 

It doesn't hurt that she carries around hot sauce everywhere she goes. I put that #### on everything. 

 
Leeroy Jenkins said:
I don't like "her" but I like her resume. I like her pragmatism. I like her knowledge of the issues and intellect and understanding of what the office of president of the United States is. 

I was an independent who changed to democrat in 2008 to vote AGAINST Hillary and campaign for Obama.  I'm not a fan of her necessarily, but she certainly has grown on me this debate season. Would I have preferred new blood, sure. 

But Cruz, Trump, and Sanders have no business being in the White House (and in that order). So Hillary will get an enthusiastic vote from me, because of the candidates we have, she really is the lone qualified choice. And she is actually immensely qualified and will have actual knowledgeable people in her cabinet as well. 
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About where I stand as well. I do prefer Bernie to her, but it's looking less and less likely that he will get the nod. So Hillary it is.

 
avoiding injuries said:
I like her laugh and facial expressions. I also enjoy how she talks with a controlled voice at a tolerable volume. 

It doesn't hurt that she carries around hot sauce everywhere she goes. I put that #### on everything. 
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Taking away the dart throwing (I admit I detest her) I still have not heard of anything substantial she has done in any of her positions...being First Lady is a non-starter for me...it would be like saying Greg Popovich's wife would be a good NBA Coach...as Senator and Secretary of State I see don't see anything of substance...IMO she has had the right last name (when she chooses to use it) and the right letter (D) after her name for some and that has made her qualified to run the country...I have long felt she is the most overrated politician of our lifetime...there are politicians I have despised like Ted Kennedy but there was zero doubt his supporters could point to actual accomplishments (at least for them) on his resume...with Hillary I hear words like pragmatism or qualified but I see nothing to back it up...to me she like a first round pick who is four years into his career with zero results but still has size and speed so someone will still say he will develop...the problem with Hillary is not only has she not delivered any results she is perhaps the most divisive figure in current American politics so I just don't see this as a recipe for success...and that isn't even touching on her shady ethics...  

 
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AAAll-Stars said:
You're supporter of the Butcher of Babylon. 300,000+ Muslims murdered/killed, Global NeoCon Warfare normalized, trillions of money that could have spent in America instead funneled to globalist fatcats. And they all support Hillary. And so do you.

But I'm gonna have some fun with ya TobFu. You'll especially enjoy my new presence here.
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I do like "TobFu," so you're off to a good start :thumbup:

 
Boston said:
Taking away the dart throwing (I admit I detest her) I still have not heard of anything substantial she has done in any of her positions...being First Lady is a non-starter for me...it would be like saying Greg Popovich's wife would be a good NBA Coach...as Senator and Secretary of State I see don't see anything of substance...IMO she has had the right last name (when she chooses to use it) and the right letter (D) after her name for some and that has made her qualified to run the country...I have long felt she is the most overrated politician of our lifetime...there are politicians I have despised like Ted Kennedy but there was zero doubt his supporters could point to actual accomplishments (at least for them) on his resume...with Hillary I hear words like pragmatism or qualified but I see nothing to back it up...to me she like a first round pick who is four years into his career with zero results but still has size and speed so someone will still say he will develop...the problem with Hillary is not only has she not delivered any results she is perhaps the most divisive figure in current American politics so I just don't see this as a recipe for success...and that isn't even touching on her shady ethics...  
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So, she's Kwame Brown?

 
Baloney Sandwich said:
not a lot of meat on those bones
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You're looking for some major accomplishment, but none of our last 3 Presidents (Obama, Bush, Bill Clinton) had one of those either. None of Hillary's opponents have a significant governing accomplishment. 

Hillary is extremely experienced as a former Senator, First Lady very involved in governance, civil rights attorney, and Secretary of State. Nobody except Kasich comes close to matching her resume. 

 
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timschochet said:
You're looking for some major accomplishment, but none of our last 3 Presidents (Obama, Bush, Bill Clinton) had one of those either. None of Hillary's opponents have a significant governing accomplishment. 

Hillary is extremely experienced as a former Senator, First Lady very involved in governance, civil rights attorney, and Secretary of State. Nobody except Kasich comes close to matching her resume. 
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You forgot to add how she was fired from her job as a Watergate lawyer for ethics violations, her unbelievable prowess in making money on cattle futures, and her current interest from the FBI. She did land her plane in a lot of countries as Sec of State for PR purposes though and there was that one time where she had to dodge sniper fire with Sinbad. And she had massive success in resetting our relations with Russia.

 
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We'll no doubt be debating this for months to come, but in the end this election is not going to be a referendum on Hillary Clinton, or even Barack Obama. 

Hillary's most important feature, for most voters, will be that she is not Donald Trump. 

 
timschochet said:
We'll no doubt be debating this for months to come, but in the end this election is not going to be a referendum on Hillary Clinton, or even Barack Obama. 

Hillary's most important feature, for most voters, will be that she is not Donald Trump. 
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actually Hillary is almost as disliked as Trump, so that isn't going to matter too much.

 
timschochet said:
We'll no doubt be debating this for months to come, but in the end this election is not going to be a referendum on Hillary Clinton, or even Barack Obama. 

Hillary's most important feature, for most voters, will be that she is not Donald Trump. 
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Reminds me of that one election where David Duke ran against a criminal. Yay for us the voters.

 
timschochet said:
We'll no doubt be debating this for months to come, but in the end this election is not going to be a referendum on Hillary Clinton, or even Barack Obama. 

Hillary's most important feature, for most voters, will be that she is not Donald Trump. 
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Just as the establishment wants.  "Hey, at least I'm not as bad as the other guy".....said it a million times.  It's going to be an epic race to the bottom.

 
cap'n grunge said:
You forgot to add how she was fired from her job as a Watergate lawyer for ethics violations, her unbelievable prowess in making money on cattle futures, and her current interest from the FBI. She did land her plane in a lot of countries as Sec of State for PR purposes though and there was that one time where she had to dodge sniper fire with Sinbad. And she had massive success in resetting our relations with Russia.
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She was able to do all those things, get away with them, and STILL win the Presidency.  Damn right she deserves it.  

 
timschochet said:
You're looking for some major accomplishment, but none of our last 3 Presidents (Obama, Bush, Bill Clinton) had one of those either. None of Hillary's opponents have a significant governing accomplishment. 

Hillary is extremely experienced as a former Senator, First Lady very involved in governance, civil rights attorney, and Secretary of State. Nobody except Kasich comes close to matching her resume. 
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Obama : ACA, Economic Expansion, TPP, Iran Deal

Bush : Medicare Part D, TARP, AIDs Funding, 1st week after 9/11

Clinton: Deficit Reduction, Crime Bill, Welfare Reform, FMLA

 
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timschochet said:
We'll no doubt be debating this for months to come, but in the end this election is not going to be a referendum on Hillary Clinton, or even Barack Obama. 

Hillary's most important feature, for most voters, will be that she is not Donald Trump. 
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Agree in that realistic policy discussion is out the window with Donald.

Disagree in that the most important feature for voters right now is corruption and alleged rigging of the system. I think Hilllary will be - and has been - an exacerbating factor and it will only worsen when she is president.

 
SaintsInDome2006 said:
Agree in that realistic policy discussion is out the window with Donald.

Disagree in that the most important feature for voters right now is corruption and alleged rigging of the system. I think Hilllary will be - and has been - an exacerbating factor and it will only worsen when she is president.
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That has been the biggest factor for Bernie fans, but they are not the majority of Democrats. It is a secondary factor for Trump fans, far behind their twin goals of (a) doing something about illegal immigration (b) sticking it to the GOP. 

Come November, the economy will be the biggest issue, unless there is a foreign catastrophe. 

 
shadyridr said:
Can you people tell me what you like about Hillary?
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If it's Hillary vs Trump, Hillary would be the first person in my lifetime that I ever voted for whom I seriously disliked. And there will be millions more like me. The GOP has a golden opportunity and they're coming to the table with...Donald Trump!!!  lol 

 
timschochet said:
You're looking for some major accomplishment, but none of our last 3 Presidents (Obama, Bush, Bill Clinton) had one of those either. None of Hillary's opponents have a significant governing accomplishment. 

Hillary is extremely experienced as a former Senator, First Lady very involved in governance, civil rights attorney, and Secretary of State. Nobody except Kasich comes close to matching her resume. 
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Oof.

 
timschochet said:
That has been the biggest factor for Bernie fans, but they are not the majority of Democrats. It is a secondary factor for Trump fans, far behind their twin goals of (a) doing something about illegal immigration (b) sticking it to the GOP. 

Come November, the economy will be the biggest issue, unless there is a foreign catastrophe. 
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Nothing gets done without first getting money out of politics. Nothing.

 
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