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Official Hillary Clinton 2016 thread (2 Viewers)

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FatUncleJerryBuss said:
Baloney Sandwich said:
Don't change the argument, you called out Saints because posting this in the Hillary thread because it implied Hillary might be involved in the DNC favoring Hillary.  You really have to have your head completely up your ### to not think Hillary's campaign was not acting in concert with the DNC.
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I don't disagree with any of this but it doesn't matter now to this election.  Too late.  Unless Bernie goes Cruz
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I agree it is too late...And if Bernie does a Cruz, it will be the biggest heel turn since Hulk Hogan joined the NWO

 
Leeroy Jenkins said:
And he thanks Donald Trump directly for adding credibility to such a campaign. 
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Yep, sad, it will be hitting us at home. The word was he would be running for the Congressional seat but between then and now I guess he just figured what the hell go for the gusto, try to get elected statewide.

Yeah thanks Donald.

 
This email dump is going to be huge. I think HRC should consider resigning her campaign and letting us have an open convention. Any result would have a better chance of saving us from a Trump candidacy. 

 
timschochet said:
Saints Saints Saints. 

There are scummy people in every campaign. Rotten people. But when you post that stuff in THIS thread, the Hillary Clinton thread, you are implying that Hillary was somehow connected to this effort. Which, IMO, is highly unwarranted. 
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I deleted it, but I think BS makes good points above.

Overall this was disgusting behavior by the DNC and the level of coordination with Hillary campaign has in the past been extensive. All in all just disgusting behavior.

 
FBI begins sending State Department recovered Clinton emails


housands of emails the FBI recovered from Hillary Clinton's servers began flowing Thursday from the law enforcement agency to the State Department, where they'll be processed for public release, according to a new court filing.

"Yesterday, the FBI began transferring the retrieved materials to the State Department, and will continue to transfer the retrieved materials to the State Department on a rolling basis," Justice Department lawyers wrote in a report filed in federal court in Washington Friday in connection with one of dozens of Freedom of Information Act lawsuits involving the Clinton emails.

In addition to the approximately 2,000 to 3,000 Clinton emails that the FBI found that were not among the roughly 30,000 she turned over to the State Department in late 2014, government lawyers have said the FBI has also recovered emails from Clinton aide Huma Abedin that were stored on the Clintonemail.com system.

In the filing Friday, the attorneys representing the State Department said they could not estimate at the moment how long the transfer process would take, although they said "thousands of documents" are involved. Government lawyers have said the transfer is being done electronically.

While the additional emails are being processed for release under FOIA, some of them may never be available to the public. If State and the National Archives determine that the messages are entirely personal in nature, they could be deemed not to be "agency records" and excluded from the materials provided in response to FOIA requests.
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http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/hillary-clinton-emails-fbi-state-226044

 
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cosjobs said:
This email dump is going to be huge. I think HRC should consider resigning her campaign and letting us have an open convention. Any result would have a better chance of saving us from a Trump candidacy. 
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The email dump will probably continue through the election. 

 
timschochet said:
No! It's only disgusting behavior if they actually did it. Sending private emails never meant for the public discussing stuff, no matter how slimy, is not disgusting so long as you never carry it out. 
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From:MARSHALL@dnc.org
To: MirandaL@dnc.org, PaustenbachM@dnc.org, DaceyA@dnc.org 
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It’s unclear who the “someone” in this message could be — though a member of the press seems like a safe bet.
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A reply to Marshall’s email from DNC CEO Amy Dacey read only “AMEN.”
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cosjobs said:
This email dump is going to be YUUUGGGEEE. I think HRC should consider resigning her campaign and letting us have an open convention. Any result would have a better chance of saving us from a Trump candidacy. 
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Do you think any of the emails are going to see the light of day?

 
timschochet said:
No! It's only disgusting behavior if they actually did it. Sending private emails never meant for the public discussing stuff, no matter how slimy, is not disgusting so long as you never carry it out. 
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I have to agree with tim on this one.  Basically, the DNC asked "should we go there?" and they eventually decided not to.  Nothing bad actually happened here.

 
randall146 said:
I know I'm late to the discussion, but why?  The parties endorsing and/or supporting a candidate pre-primary happens at every level of politics, from school committee to the presidency
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Then again why would a non favorite ever run as d or r?  Worst move Bernie made was hitching himself to a party.

 
DNC owed HRC because of the money she generates..........therein lies the problem.  But again, doesnt matter now.   RNC tried the same thing but had no results due to lack of money.

 
randall146 said:
I know I'm late to the discussion, but why?  The parties endorsing and/or supporting a candidate pre-primary happens at every level of politics, from school committee to the presidency
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For one thing it's the rules. Say the rule should be different, fine, but this is a rule that the DNC is bound by. 

 
FatUncleJerryBuss said:
DNC owed HRC because of the money she generates..........therein lies the problem.  But again, doesnt matter now.   RNC tried the same thing but had no results due to lack of money.
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It's been said but the DNC was too controlling and manipulative and the RNC was too clueless.

Though the more I look at it the more it looks like the RNC leadership and 'establishment' wanted Trump all along.

 
SaintsInDome2006 said:
It's been said but the DNC was too controlling and manipulative and the RNC was too clueless.

Though the more I look at it the more it looks like the RNC leadership and 'establishment' wanted Trump all along.
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It is possible but unlikely IMO.  If the big names rallied around him, I would agree.  They are a split party IMO winning independants and fear based people that usually have noone to vote for. Fear wins, beating that drum because it scares the hell out of me.

 
FatUncleJerryBuss said:
It will be Kaine and it will put wall street in focus again.   
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VPs don't make much of a difference. But Nate Silver's analysis shows that it is a very logical choice - his potential impact in Virginia swaying the final electoral college vote - is the 5th best of all states where a VP adds the expect +2% swing. She's ahead in Virginia, but still vulnerable there. 

He speaks Spanish, a plus, has a good record in Virginia, and volunteered in a Jesuit mission. What''s not to like in a VP?

 
If it's Kaine it's the pretty much the final middle finger to the Bernie supporters. I'm 100% voting Gary Johnson if it's Kaine and that's with the mindset that if Trump wins it may be a fatal blow to the country. 

 
SoBeDad said:
VPs don't make much of a difference. But Nate Silver's analysis shows that it is a very logical choice - his potential impact in Virginia swaying the final electoral college vote - is the 5th best of all states where a VP adds the expect +2% swing. She's ahead in Virginia, but still vulnerable there. 

He speaks Spanish, a plus, has a good record in Virginia, and volunteered in a Jesuit mission. What''s not to like in a VP?
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I just think that projecting a race like this mean nothing.  This is unique.

 
Willie Neslon said:
If it's Kaine it's the pretty much the final middle finger to the Bernie supporters. I'm 100% voting Gary Johnson if it's Kaine and that's with the mindset that if Trump wins it may be a fatal blow to the country. 
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:lmao:  I'm sure you were going to vote for Hillary unti this time. 

The only reason you think Kaine is pro Wall Street is that he supports TPP, But he doesn't support it as much as Obama. 

 
Kaine was a good Mayor, a good Governor, and a good Senator.  Almost no one reasonable has a bad word to say about him, and he's certainly appears to be a solid human being.  Of all the people being considered he's probably my first choice to actually be President.  In fact I'd probably vote for him over Hillary if I could.  

I have a pretty hard time believing someone who says they're not voting for Hillary because of Kaine.  Seems a lot more likely they were never voting for Hillary anyhow.

 
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