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I love this one:

From:MARSHALL@dnc.org
To: MirandaL@dnc.org, PaustenbachM@dnc.org, DaceyA@dnc.org 
Date: 2016-05-05 03:31
Subject: No ####
It might may no difference, but for KY and WVA can we get someone to ask his belief. Does he believe in a God. He had skated on saying he has a Jewish heritage. I think I read he is an atheist. This could make several points difference with my peeps. My Southern Baptist peeps would draw a big difference between a Jew and an atheist.
 
David Dodds said:
I love this one:

From:MARSHALL@dnc.org
To: MirandaL@dnc.org, PaustenbachM@dnc.org, DaceyA@dnc.org 
Date: 2016-05-05 03:31
Subject: No ####

It might may no difference, but for KY and WVA can we get someone to ask his belief. Does he believe in a God. He had skated on saying he has a Jewish heritage. I think I read he is an atheist. This could make several points difference with my peeps. My Southern Baptist peeps would draw a big difference between a Jew and an atheist.
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Did they actually do this David? 

 
timschochet said:
Another Former Hillary supporter who feels betrayed by the DNC emails, and so NOW you can no longer vote for her! 
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So you're aware Tim, according to recent polling, the public has a larger distrust of Hill than of Trump.....which is not to say that either is good, because they're both turds.

 
Of course the DNC preferred Hillary and likely stated she would have their support based on 2008. Bernie is not a democrat. Why would they want him taking over the party?  

Would the dnc have been better served if Booker and Kaine ran?  Probably. I think the dnc and future stars of the party got out of hillary's way out of respect and somewhat out of obligation. Im not sure what the issue is. Bernie lost under the rules without needing the super delegates. 

I think there are lots of republicans wishing the rnc did a better job and didnt let there be 16 candidates inculding a lunatic fascist who was able to take over the party and #### on it. 

 
timschochet said:
Did they actually do this David? 
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Did they send the email?  

I heard a few stories about Sanders' religious beliefs.  Would it shock you at this point that the question was planted by someone within DNC?

For the Hillary supporters, this is not the hill you want to die on.  The DNC was, is, and will be, corrupt.  That is what you wanted when you wanted a Clinton Machine as a candidate - that is status quo politics in this country.

 
David Dodds said:
The media spinning this as if Putin / Russia are responsible for the hack.  Really?  They were unable to hack Hillary Clinton's private email server with literally no safe-guards on it, but they got through this highly protected server with ease?  How gullible does the media expect us to be in all of this?

The hacker claiming responsibility is Guccifer 2.0.  Here is an interview from him:

http://motherboard.vice.com/read/dnc-hacker-guccifer-20-full-interview-transcript

He is not from Russia.  He hates Russia and their policies.
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I saw this, too, and could only surmise that the repeated churning of this purely speculative b.s. was to spin the outrage toward Trump.  In other words, Stephanopolus repeatedly asking the question to Manafort about whether they are associated with Putin, while absurd, at least gives some meat for the Hillary people to chew on and blame Trump for the hack and divert attention away from the fact that the DNC paved the way for Hillary to win the election. 

 
Leeroy Jenkins said:
Of course the DNC preferred Hillary and likely stated she would have their support based on 2008. Bernie is not a democrat. Why would they want him taking over the party?  

Would the dnc have been better served if Booker and Kaine ran?  Probably. I think the dnc and future stars of the party got out of hillary's way out of respect and somewhat out of obligation. Im not sure what the issue is. Bernie lost under the rules without needing the super delegates. 

I think there are lots of republicans wishing the rnc did a better job and didnt let there be 16 candidates inculding a lunatic fascist who was able to take over the party and #### on it. 
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It was not done out of respect.  It was both an obligation, and a reality.  The DNC machine, and big money donors were already aligned with Clinton.  In any previous election, that was enough to slam the door shut.  It was only a grassroots organization, and amazing small-dollar fundraising effort that made this into a race at all.  No "rising-star" candidate could afford to go against the machine.

 
Leeroy Jenkins said:
I think there are lots of republicans wishing the rnc did a better job and didnt let there be 16 candidates inculding a lunatic fascist who was able to take over the party and #### on it. 
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You know the RNC is already working behind the scenes to prevent another Trump. The DNC email leak will not serve as a warning to the RNC, but inspiration.

(NTTAWWT.)

 
Sinn Fein said:
Did they send the email?  

I heard a few stories about Sanders' religious beliefs.  Would it shock you at this point that the question was planted by someone within DNC?

For the Hillary supporters, this is not the hill you want to die on.  The DNC was, is, and will be, corrupt.  That is what you wanted when you wanted a Clinton Machine as a candidate - that is status quo politics in this country.
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People cheat when they think they cannot win fair and square.

Trump showed us it is possible to become the nominee with voter support, even when he was not the favorite child of the Republican Party.  You can do it if you're a billionaire.

 
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Sinn Fein said:
It was not done out of respect.  It was both an obligation, and a reality.  The DNC machine, and big money donors were already aligned with Clinton.  In any previous election, that was enough to slam the door shut.  It was only a grassroots organization, and amazing small-dollar fundraising effort that made this into a race at all.  No "rising-star" candidate could afford to go against the machine.
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To that i say, so what?  Obama was able to overcome it because at the end of the day, he and his campaign was better. 

I think it is crazy that Bernie all of a sudden is this amazing political figure. He's been in politics since the 70s. He's a good voice for the far left, but he would have been a terrible President. 

And if you dont think there are people who did not run out of respect for the Clintons, you're dead wrong. 

 
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cobalt_27 said:
As suspected, but simply incredible that it was so blatant.
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Not surprising. Fox is likely similar. All of the news stations have goals other than news. Trump and his $2b in free press is our reward. 

 
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Paustenbach National Press Secretary & Deputy Communications Director Democratic National Committee W: 202.863.8148 paustenbachm@dnc.org<mailto:paustenbachm@dnc.org> From: Miranda, Luis Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 10:02 AM To: April Mellody; Paustenbach, Mark
 
Subject: Getting on same page April
 
We need the written out roll out plan, and we need to see if we can place a story FIRST rather than just dropping a press release to make sure the first story out of the gate is as helpful as possible. Even if it's for today. Please loop us both in. thanks.
 
Leeroy Jenkins said:
To that i say, so what?  Obama was able to overcome it because at the end of the day, he and his campaign was better. 

I think it is crazy that Bernie all of a sudden is this amazing political figure. He's been in politics since the 70s. He's a good voice for the far left, but he would have been a terrible President
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Bernie is not a great politician.  He had a great message, and he would have been a better president than either Clinton or Trump.  But, he did not know, and still does not know, how to win a national election.

One of the great ironies is that all the Clinton supporters who claimed Bernie would never be able to compromise, and yet here he is, compromising most of his long-standing beliefs to support Clinton ahead of Trump.

 
Sinn Fein said:
Bernie is not a great politician.  He had a great message, and he would have been a better president than either Clinton or Trump.  But, he did not know, and still does not know, how to win a national election.

One of the great ironies is that all the Clinton supporters who claimed Bernie would never be able to compromise, and yet here he is, compromising most of his long-standing beliefs to support Clinton ahead of Trump.
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Lol. He is being true to his core beliefs by supporting Hillary. 

 
Sinn Fein said:
Bernie is not a great politician.  He had a great message, and he would have been a better president than either Clinton or Trump.  But, he did not know, and still does not know, how to win a national election.

One of the great ironies is that all the Clinton supporters who claimed Bernie would never be able to compromise, and yet here he is, compromising most of his long-standing beliefs to support Clinton ahead of Trump.
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Never said Bernie was not a good guy. His love of country and fear of a Trump presidency rightfully takes precedence over politics.  

Everybody should get in line behind him.  Trump is the biggest internal threat to this nation since the 1800s. 

 
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bananafish said:
LOL at yawning at the DNC's corruption as a non-story. Who's talking about Kaine today? 

I guess it's about as yawnable as the public caring about Hillary's emails.

The protesters are amassing at the gates of the convention as we speak.

The stars aligned to give Hillary the nomination and blessed her with Trump as an opponent and she still might lose. My God.
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:sleep:

 
timschochet said:
Lol. He is being true to his core beliefs by supporting Hillary. 
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Did you watch him this morning?  Looks like a beaten down man, who has been castrated.  If Hillary is Crooked Hillary, then Bernie is Cuckolded Bernie at this stage.

His core values, are the antithesis of Clinton Values.

 
Leeroy Jenkins said:
Never said Bernie was not a good guy. His love of country and fear of a Trump presidency rightfully takes precedence over politics.  

Everybody should get in line behind him.  Trump is the biggest internal threat to this nation since the 1800s. 
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Clinton poses a far greater threat to this country's security and financial stability.  Its not even close.

 
I love Hillary...for how much it's going to piss off ###hole Trump voters when she wins.  #imwithherpissingofftrumpvoters

 
Clinton up 1.9, 2.2, 2.7, 3.2 in four polling averages.  So 2.5% if you average the averages.  That's down from 3.2% midway through the RNC last week.  In a normal year that would be a problem for Trump as Clinton would expect a ~2-4% bounce this week.  But who knows -- it's not a normal year.  Still...if I had to bet, I'd bet Clinton will be up ~4% next week.

 
Oh by the way Bananafish, I just googled Hillary Clinton- of the top 7 stories about her this morning, only one, the 7th, is about the DNC. 3 stories are about Tim Kaine. So let's not go overboard shall we? 

 
Leeroy Jenkins said:
To that i say, so what?  Obama was able to overcome it because at the end of the day, he and his campaign was better. 

I think it is crazy that Bernie all of a sudden is this amazing political figure. He's been in politics since the 70s. He's a good voice for the far left, but he would have been a terrible President. 

And if you dont think there are people who did not run out of respect for the Clintons, you're dead wrong. 
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I think the "respect" for the Clintons are overrated.  Senator Claire McCaskill is campaigning for Hillary but this is what she had said about Hillary to her friend, "I really don’t want to be in an elevator alone with her."  And this is what she had said about Bill Clinton, "He’s been a great leader but I don’t want my daughter near him."

 
bananafish said:
If you watched any of the Sunday morning news shows, and I know you did, you know how weak this deflection is. But keep yawning.

'See you in Philly': Anti-Clinton protesters converging on Democratic convention

(CNN) Fueled by grievances over the party's treatment of Bernie Sanders and doubts over Hillary Clinton's progressive credentials, tens of thousands of protesters are poised to put a fragile post-primary detente to the test this week during the Democratic National Convention in Philadelphia.
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Supporters of the guy who is supporting Hillary are protesting. :loco:

 
timschochet said:
So you are supporting Trump now? How surprising. 
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I am not now, nor ever, nor in the future going to support Trump.

But, I will never support Clinton.  The Trump stuff is silly compared to the damage Clinton can/will do if she were elected.

The Trump stuff is mostly just raising thoughts/fears/concerns that far too many people have.  Electing Clinton will not do away with that underlying current of hate that exists in our country.  If Trump were elected, he would be equally opposed in congress by establishment politicians who want to keep the status quo.  None of what he says will ever come to fruition.  Maybe part of a wall, that he pays for.

 
Sinn Fein said:
I am not now, nor ever, nor in the future going to support Trump.

But, I will never support Clinton.  The Trump stuff is silly compared to the damage Clinton can/will do if she were elected.

The Trump stuff is mostly just raising thoughts/fears/concerns that far too many people have.  Electing Clinton will not do away with that underlying current of hate that exists in our country.  If Trump were elected, he would be equally opposed in congress by establishment politicians who want to keep the status quo.  None of what he says will ever come to fruition.  Maybe part of a wall, that he pays for.
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The things he says directly impact foreign relations. And he is the commander in chief. He is a narcissistic ego maniac who is ultra sensitive. Now he wants to start super pacs to fight cruz and kasich. We want this guy in charge of the military?!?!

 
Leeroy Jenkins said:
The things he says directly impact foreign relations. And he is the commander in chief. He is a narcissistic ego maniac who is ultra sensitive. Now he wants to start super pacs to fight cruz and kasich. We want this guy in charge of the military?!?!
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I don't want him in charge of anything.  But, same goes for Hillary.  Hence the conundrum of this awful presidential election year.

 
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