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Official Hillary Clinton 2016 thread (8 Viewers)

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And long as Dodds finds time to update his DFS blog a couple hours before gametime, he's welcome to post crazy, switch parties, do whatever the #### he wants ITT.

 
rugcleaner said:
CNN (Clinton News Network) admits helping and promoting Hillary Clinton

CNN cuts off reporter when she goes rogue on Hillary Clinton

Sheriff David Clarke Vs. Don Lemon Over Black Lives Matter (BLM)

CNN Host Cuts Off Guest Who Called Clinton An 'Abuser's Enabler'

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First one is a guy making a joke in the context of a report that was mildly critical of Clinton.

Your next 2 links don't work.

Last one - reporter repeatedly tells them Bill Clinton is out of context for the question he's asking and the guest keeps trying to make it about Bill Clinton.

Not very compelling for your case, sorry.

 
jamny said:
The Football Freak said:
Heh. I was expecting a couple. When he throws out rants and is followed by a cacophony of smart posters pointing out mistakes or what he missed, am I the unreasonable one for no longer considering him a trusted source? 
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For fantasy football information? Yes.
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Yes. The ability to be right about fantasy football is rather independent from the ability to be right about politics.

Just today I came across this really good article, which explains things quite well, I think. To use the analogy featured in the article, someone who sells fantasy football advice commercially will have a strong incentive to adopt evidence-based beliefs and reject unsupported beliefs based on merit. When it comes to politics, though, nearly all of us will generally adopt or reject beliefs based on cronyism. (And that includes even those of us whose crony political beliefs happen to also be evidence-based and accurate.)

Read the article. Did I mention that it's really good?

 
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David Dodds said:
From Maria's own words:

https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1jctbp/i_am_performance_artist_marina_abramovic_ask_me/cbdebyl/

"Everything depends on which context you are doing what you are doing. If you are doing the occult magic in the context of art or in a gallery, then it is the art. If you are doing it in different context, in spiritual circles or private house or on TV shows, it is not art. The intention, the context for what is made, and where it is made defines what art is or not."
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wat

 
SaintsInDome2006 said:
Here's the investigation again, and it's 'continuing'.

For reference I would also point to the WSJ and NYT reports, which are again consistent in reporting there is an 'investigation'. However another way to view the investigation issue is that WSJ and IIRC NYT both confirmed there was a 'stand down' order'. In that light it's easy to see how someone from DOJ could say there is 'no investigation' if administration officials told them to officially put it on hold. Officially that may indeed be the position. But the FBI is after all an independent bureau.
 
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The real problem here and to some extent with the email stuff, I think, is that people act like "under investigation" has some legal meaning or is a classification.  To my knowledge it isn't.  If I call the FBI and report that some guys on a fantasy football message board appear to be contemplating a terrorirst attack and they check on it, I could I suppose say that we are all "under FBI investigation."

And that's basically what happened here, except instead of a middle-age dork triggering the FBI it was a terrible hit job of a book by a discredited breitbart dooshbag.  The far more troubling thing is that the handful of Trump-friendly  guys pushing it (by all accounts) apprear to have also leaked it for political reasons.  THAT is a real scandal.

 
Gr00vus said:
Not very compelling for your case, sorry.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mockingbird

After William Colby left the Agency on January 28th, 1976, and was succeeded by George H.W. Bush, the CIA announced a new policy: “Effective immediately, the CIA will not enter into any paid or contractual relationship with any full‑time or part‑time news correspondent accredited by any U.S. news service, newspaper, periodical, radio or television network or station.” However, more than half of the relationships the CIA had with U.S. journalists continued. The text of the announcement noted that the CIA would continue to “welcome” the voluntary, unpaid cooperation of journalists. Thus, while Operation Mockingbird came to an end, many relationships between the CIA and journalists were allowed to remain intact.[22]

 
TobiasFunke said:
The real problem here and to some extent with the email stuff, I think, is that people act like "under investigation" has some legal meaning or is a classification.  To my knowledge it isn't.  If I call the FBI and report that some guys on a fantasy football message board appear to be contemplating a terrorirst attack and they check on it, I could I suppose say that we are all "under FBI investigation."

And that's basically what happened here, except instead of a middle-age dork triggering the FBI it was a terrible hit job of a book by a discredited breitbart dooshbag.  The far more troubling thing is that the handful of Trump-friendly  guys pushing it (by all accounts) apprear to have also leaked it for political reasons.  THAT is a real scandal.
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So you're saying there is no private server?  There are no classified emails on this non-existant private server?  That Clinton did not lie to the FBI over the summer?  That the FBI is not looking at any new information regarding a private server or emails?  The whole thing was made up by a rogue agent and no one including Comey nor Clinton are debunking it?  This was the equivalent of a bored dork at home wanting to stir the pot a little?

 
TobiasFunke said:
The real problem here and to some extent with the email stuff, I think, is that people act like "under investigation" has some legal meaning or is a classification.  To my knowledge it isn't.  If I call the FBI and report that some guys on a fantasy football message board appear to be contemplating a terrorist attack and they check on it, I could I suppose say that we are all "under FBI investigation."

And that's basically what happened here, except instead of a middle-age dork triggering the FBI it was a terrible hit job of a book by a discredited breitbart dooshbag.  The far more troubling thing is that the handful of Trump-friendly  guys pushing it (by all accounts) apprear to have also leaked it for political reasons.  THAT is a real scandal.
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First of all - wait, that was you?

Secondly, yeah I agree. Is that so awful? Conversely we had the ridiculous exercise nationally and here for 9 months of Hillary supporters constantly getting umbrage up about suggesting Hillary was under investigation. Until July hit and oh yeah there's the FBI Director on the podium, delivering good news by the way. And we said hey let's hang our hats on that.... until last week on Friday around noon, then it was like the Hillary folks got possessed by the spirit of Trump all of a sudden.

To me that Fox report wasn't interesting because of the Hannityish 'indictments imminent I swear the roadrunner is caught this time!" headline, it was because the report said that the investigations (natsec and Foundation) were now sharing data. That would be a big deal. Has MM or any news source you trust commented on that? Because that would be an earth-mover. Meanwhile WSJ reported that the DOJ had not permitted the 'investigation' to access data collected in the national security investigation, so that is contradictory. But that i a thing which is either true or it is not.

You do realize that Trumpites pointing to Lynch/Bill on a plane and the DOJ administration issuing a stand down order and denying investigation tools like subpoenas and warrants as allegedly being political sounds just like Hillaryites claiming that Comey (who just saved Hillary's ### from the fire 2 weeks before the DNCC) and certain FBI agents are politically ginning up election coups in America, right? I mean you can step outside your consciousness to see that, no?

 
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Boston said:
Either someone else wrote that letter or the head of the English Department (or I guess it is called Language Arts now...I felt so PC just typing that) of this kid's High School should be running the department of Education...
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Yes, there is not a chance that was written by a 15yo. It had better grammar than 95% of the posters here have the ability to write. 

 
Hang 10 said:
You can't give me one reason? 
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Because FBI director Comey arguably violated his duty to the victim of a crime when he sent his letter when he did without warning her or considering what would happen to her during her several hour interview at the time it was sent out, which she's claiming allowed reporters to find out her identity/location as a result of Weiner and the FBI's incompetence.

 
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squistion said:
:lol:

http://www.snopes.com/2016/10/18/project-veritas-election-videos/

The videos are, as is typical of O'Keefe's, work somewhat of a gish gallop, comprising a constellation of allegations and assertions that is virtually impossible to fact check without complete clips of the involved conversations. Nearly all the videos used stitched-together, out-of-context remarks with no indication of what occurred or what was discussed just before and after the included portions.

The framing and style of videos created by James O'Keefe is well known due to his 2009 "sting" in which he and accomplice Hannah Giles visited ACORN offices and pretended to be seeking advice on how to run an illegal business that included the use of underage girls in the sex trade. The resulting videos — which were edited to create the impression that O'Keefe and Giles had spoken to ACORN representatives while dressed as a pimp and prostitute — dealt that organization a mortal blow before reports publicizing the deception in O'Keefe's videos came to light:
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:lmao:  snopes

http://dailycaller.com/2016/06/17/fact-checking-snopes-websites-political-fact-checker-is-just-a-failed-liberal-blogger/

 
Hang 10:

You can't give me one reason?
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When you feel the need to tell other people that you don't care about a topic that you were just arguing about, when you feel the need to emphasize your point with cuss words, when you feel the need to continue to make additional posts about the topic (which you proclaimed that you didn't give a #### about), that's a pretty good sign that you're A) lying, and/or B) a pretty crappy human being.

Actually, when you feel the need to use cuss words to emphasize how you feel about an alleged rape* victim, that makes you a pretty crappy human being.

But keep telling us how much you don't give a #### if that makes you feel better about yourself.

*edit: sexting, not rape.

 
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Hang 10 said:
You can't give me one reason? 
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You get to read someone else's piece that has been passed off as an "open letter" written by a 15yo girl. It's an attempt to make Comey the focus and take the spotlight off of Hillary. That's why it's so important for you to read it and buy into it. 

 
David Dodds said:
From Maria's own words:

https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1jctbp/i_am_performance_artist_marina_abramovic_ask_me/cbdebyl/

"Everything depends on which context you are doing what you are doing. If you are doing the occult magic in the context of art or in a gallery, then it is the art. If you are doing it in different context, in spiritual circles or private house or on TV shows, it is not art. The intention, the context for what is made, and where it is made defines what art is or not."
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Wow.  Just wow.

 
Maurile Tremblay said:
Yes. The ability to be right about fantasy football is rather independent from the ability to be right about politics.

Just today I came across this really good article, which explains things quite well, I think. To use the analogy featured in the article, someone who sells fantasy football advice commercially will have a strong incentive to adopt evidence-based beliefs and reject unsupported beliefs based on merit. When it comes to politics, though, nearly all of us will generally adopt or reject beliefs based on cronyism. (And that includes even those of us whose crony political beliefs happen to also be evidence-based and accurate.)

Read the article. Did I mention that it's really good?
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Uh, I don't like it as applied to conspiracy theorists. Maybe I read it too fast. I do need my afternoon nap. The intro addresses nutty conspiracy stuff, but very little of the long article goes back to it. Both merit and crony beliefs, the two new concepts the author is introducing, drive us away from conspiracy theory; one through analytical thinking, the other through blending in with cronies.

Another oddity of Dodds' journey is while I believe we should agree he is a fairly accomplished analytical thinker in these parts, yet analytical thinking reduces belief in conspiracy theories. I think this is just more a case of him chasing the white rabbit down hole and being both repulsed and fascinated by what he's seeing. It's okay, btw. Another study I'm not going to look for showed no intellectual bias for those incline to conspiracy beliefs. It isn't about being dumb. It isn't about crony or merit beliefs. Analytical thinking should overcome it, so what gives. How is a raven like a writing desk?

 
Henry Ford said:
One of Clinton's staffers was invited to a dinner with her once, and the email is GOING TO DESTROY THE CLINTON CAMPAIGN.  According to Dodds.
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This is the woman https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EsJLNGVJ7E&feature=youtu.be  **Warning Disturbing Content

Still From Video https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CwZ0NiEW8AA69Sg.jpg

Here is another one of her "spirit dinners" https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cwbg6cxXgAQGtbE.jpg

Dodds posted the comment about the difference between public and private events

It is not just a staffer, it is her campaign chair John Podesta 

Here is an interesting painting on the wall of the office of John Podesta https://i.sli.mg/VRBxIu.jpg

Notice the scar on Podesta's Pinky https://i.sli.mg/VZzjDn.jpg

Here is the connection between the dinner host and Hillary https://i.sli.mg/T5nqER.jpg

Washington times article http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/nov/4/wikileaks-john-podesta-invited-to-spirit-dinner-ho/

 
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timschochet said:
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-economic-recovery-is-finally-bringing-pay-raises/?ex_cid=2016-forecast

Economic news is very good. Hopefully Hillary can capitalize. 
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Economic news, particularly the last jobs report, can in no way be described as very good.  Wages are seeing modest rises (good), part time jobs are growing rapidly while full time ones are decreasing (bad).  People completely out of the job market continues to increase (bad).  We aren't generating enough jobs to keep up with population growth - the 160k on this report is quite anemic.

We're in the same rut we've been in for quite a while of terrible GDP and job growth numbers.  And even wage rises look bad compared in inflationary forces that the middle class is currently facing - medical care, education, etc.  There will be many Obama legacies when he leaves, but goodness knows that the economy will not be one of them.

 
rugcleaner said:
This is the woman https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EsJLNGVJ7E&feature=youtu.be

Here is another one of her "spirit dinners" https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cwbg6cxXgAQGtbE.jpg

Dodds posted the comment about the difference between public and private events

It is not just a staffer, it is her campaign chair John Podesta 

Here is an interesting painting on the wall of the office of John Podesta https://i.sli.mg/VRBxIu.jpg

Here is the connection between the dinner host and Hillary https://i.sli.mg/T5nqER.jpg

Washington times article http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/nov/4/wikileaks-john-podesta-invited-to-spirit-dinner-ho/
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More importantly, that article provides the same connection to Rangers goalie Henrik Lundqvist and Andy Cohen.  This conspiracy goes all the way to the middle.

 
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