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Official Hillary Clinton 2016 thread (4 Viewers)

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Quez said:
I only saw 1 Hillary 9x12 on the way home, and it happened to be in a ditch by a swamp.  There were a few dozen Trump signs.  I saw 2 groups of people holding up Trump signs & USA flags.  Also, there was a pickup with a huge USA flag in the back, and trump signs all over it.  About a 45min commute on 2 major arteries in Pinellas & Hillsborough.  Both swing counties.
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Hard to argue with compelling empirical evidence like that.

 
I will say this....I think one rule NC does have that I think every state should have is removal of "vote for all democrats/republicans" buttons/options on the ballots.  I think every state should do this personally.  It might, just might, get a person to think for a second if they are going through a ballot clicking on names they have never heard of before.  The hope being, they walk away thinking it might be a good idea to know who I am voting for next time I vote thus getting them engaged in the primaries and general election sooner rather than later.

 
The Commish said:
I will say this....I think one rule NC does have that I think every state should have is removal of "vote for all democrats/republicans" buttons/options on the ballots.  I think every state should do this personally.  It might, just might, get a person to think for a second if they are going through a ballot clicking on names they have never heard of before.  The hope being, they walk away thinking it might be a good idea to know who I am voting for next time I vote thus getting them engaged in the primaries and general election sooner rather than later.
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What? You can do this? I've never seen a "vote the full ballot" option? 

 
The Commish said:
The polling station shenanigans were during the first week....for a period of time, numbers were down 25-30%.  In the last week they have close to 8-9%.  Doesn't appear the shenanigans were long lasting in terms of their impact.  Of course, this being down 8-9% is comparison to the record levels Obama set in the state.  The turnout thus far is pretty similar to any other election cycle not involving Obama.  So, for example, Mecklenburg county (where Charlotte is) is about 6-7% off it's record turnouts after being down 30ish% early when the restrictions were in place.

As for Cooper and Ross....well, Cooper is Cooper and can't seem to get out of his own way.  Should see if the CLT local NPR station has some podcasts of the debates.  They were, in a word, brutal.  Ross, not much to that race...a lot of he said she said :hophead: between the two.  Poorly run IMO. 
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Except that African-American turnout is UP from 2012 in early voting pretty much everywhere else in the country. The articles compares North Carolina to three other southern states- it's up in the other three and down that 8% in North Carolina.  That combined with the September memo, the state GOP actually sending out a press release that sounds proud of declining black turnout ... this isn't just a "where there's smoke there's fire" situation.  This is a "where there's smoke and heat and flames and guys in fire-######ant yellow jackets there's fire" situation.  Yeah it seems to be getting better, but it still looks pretty awful and in a state that should be very close a couple thousand votes lost due to long lines could make the difference.

On a tangent- saw a great tweet yesterday about pictures and videos of long lines at polling stations.  Sometimes they're presented as sources of pride by the media. "Look at democracy in action, all these people waiting to hear their voice heard!"  They're not sources of pride.  They show fundamental failures of our state and local governments at one of their most important tasks.  If you're waiting more than 20-30 minutes to vote, someone either screwed up or doesn't want you to vote. 

 
Quez said:
I only saw 1 Hillary 9x12 on the way home, and it happened to be in a ditch by a swamp.  There were a few dozen Trump signs.  I saw 2 groups of people holding up Trump signs & USA flags.  Also, there was a pickup with a huge USA flag in the back, and trump signs all over it.  About a 45min commute on 2 major arteries in Pinellas & Hillsborough.  Both swing counties.  Trump has been drawing massive crowds here.  I will be very surprised if they go blue.
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I saw a fleet of American bald eagles carrying a giant TRUMP/PENCE banner heading towards the sunset while beneath them a man dressed as Uncle Sam was riding an elephant into the same sunset while surrounded by cowboys shooting guns into the air (they hit a couple of the eagles) .  It was majestic.

 
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Koya said:
What? You can do this? I've never seen a "vote the full ballot" option? 
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Yep...on our ballots there was a "Vote Democratic Ticket" or "Vote Republican Ticket"  (or something similar...don't remember the exact label).  Have that here in SC also...I'll pay closer attention to the label tomorrow.

 
Quez said:
I only saw 1 Hillary 9x12 on the way home, and it happened to be in a ditch by a swamp.  There were a few dozen Trump signs.  I saw 2 groups of people holding up Trump signs & USA flags.  Also, there was a pickup with a huge USA flag in the back, and trump signs all over it.  About a 45min commute on 2 major arteries in Pinellas & Hillsborough.  Both swing counties.  Trump has been drawing massive crowds here.  I will be very surprised if they go blue.
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Based on the signs I saw during my commute today I am projecting that Clinton will win the election in a massive landslide without a single vote cast for Trump.  Also, DC will be the 51st State in the union, refugees will soon be welcome but fascists will have to stay out, and the Archbishop Carroll High School Seniors will "rule."

 
cstu said:
Here are the straight ticket states.
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The Commish said:
Yep...on our ballots there was a "Vote Democratic Ticket" or "Vote Republican Ticket"  (or something similar...don't remember the exact label).  Have that here in SC also...I'll pay closer attention to the label tomorrow.
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Oof.  That just strikes me as awful.  I mean, being lazy or blind partisan and just going down the ballot line I can understand.  But to give the two major parties an all in lazy man special? Oof. 

 
I just saw that women are outvoting men 55% to 44% in national early cast ballots... its usually apparently 53 / 47

If between Hillary being a woman and/or their disgust at Trump's misogyny and then some women vote even one percent more than in the past (equating to an additional percent lost by the men), that could be a key factor considering women are skewing so strongly toward Clinton.

 
The Commish said:
The polling station shenanigans were during the first week....for a period of time, numbers were down 25-30%.  In the last week they have close to 8-9%.  Doesn't appear the shenanigans were long lasting in terms of their impact.  Of course, this being down 8-9% is comparison to the record levels Obama set in the state.  The turnout thus far is pretty similar to any other election cycle not involving Obama.  So, for example, Mecklenburg county (where Charlotte is) is about 6-7% off it's record turnouts after being down 30ish% early when the restrictions were in place.  I think it amounted to around 25ish polling places across the entire state that weren't available early?  Sorry, don't remember the exact amount.

As for Cooper and Ross....well, Cooper is Cooper and can't seem to get out of his own way.  Should see if the CLT local NPR station has some podcasts of the debates.  They were, in a word, brutal.  Ross, not much to that race...a lot of he said she said :hophead: between the two.  Poorly run IMO. 

ETA:  Be careful GB...you're walking a line where you are close to sounding like Trump with the bold ;)   
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Do you have a theory as to why black voting is down in North Carolina but up in other battle ground states like Florida?

 
Henry Ford said:
Do you have a theory as to why black voting is down in North Carolina but up in other battle ground states like Florida?
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Medea Halloween.  She had one passing line when she said, "Hillary!" and mumbled a little under her breath, disapprovingly.  -20 points by the end of opening box office weekend.  

 
The Commish said:
I will say this....I think one rule NC does have that I think every state should have is removal of "vote for all democrats/republicans" buttons/options on the ballots.  I think every state should do this personally.  It might, just might, get a person to think for a second if they are going through a ballot clicking on names they have never heard of before.  The hope being, they walk away thinking it might be a good idea to know who I am voting for next time I vote thus getting them engaged in the primaries and general election sooner rather than later.
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For the first time in my voting history, I opened up my voter registration booklet and researched each candidate and proposal, marking down my selections and I will use it tomorrow as a cheat sheet. 

 
Quez said:
Another "they sucked too" deflection.  Let's just rain hell down all over the planet because our party isn't as bad as yours was when they were in charge!  Solid reasoning.
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So, to recap, you believe we haven't had a decent President since... 1993?  1989?

 
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He's got you there, Henry.  You could have been posting from the future.
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Or estimating overall voting numbers with early voting.  I assumed that's what he was doing.  I don't think early voting matters.  Overall voting is what matters.

 
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