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*** Official Indefinite Cincinnati Bengals Thread *** 8-8, Just When I Thought I Was Out, They Pull Me Back In (2 Viewers)
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eighsse2
Footballguy
Might be fine
eighsse2
Footballguy
Who expected the Browns and even the Steelers to be 2 games over .500Who Dey!!! Great win. Back to business
Side note how crazy is the AFC North? 17-6 against the rest of the league now.
-QG
rockaction
Footballguy
Who expected the Browns and even the Steelers to be 2 games over .500
Every game in that division is in the muck and I'm not sure that suits the Bengals, though they certainly are a hard-nosed team.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Wonderful effort and game last night
Looks like Cinci will be back in the discussion of how far they can go in the PLayoffs
I realize Baltimore is 7-2, they've whooped a few teams now, still think Cinci is the team to beat in the North
Outside of the road game at Baltimore, think the Bengals will be favored in most of their games the rest of the way.
12-5 or even better not off the table yet.
Looks like Cinci will be back in the discussion of how far they can go in the PLayoffs
I realize Baltimore is 7-2, they've whooped a few teams now, still think Cinci is the team to beat in the North
Outside of the road game at Baltimore, think the Bengals will be favored in most of their games the rest of the way.
12-5 or even better not off the table yet.
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QuizGuy66
Footballguy
Situation is dire but let's see what Browning can do out there. Honestly looked better than I expected after he came in. Basically the big knock on him out of college was arm strength so that will be likely the biggest difficulty.
From the fantasy side Irwin looks to be rosterable if Tee remains out as there definitely is a connection between him and Jake - surely they have had a ton of practice time together.
-QG
From the fantasy side Irwin looks to be rosterable if Tee remains out as there definitely is a connection between him and Jake - surely they have had a ton of practice time together.
-QG
eighsse2
Footballguy
Completely agree there, I thought Browning did perfectly fine. We're down, not out, but I'm done worrying about this season, for now.
eighsse2
Footballguy
Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in ...
Two weeks ago, after the awful loss to the Steelers, I truly thought I'd seen the last of Bengals games that I actually cared about this year.
We need to finiah 3-1 5o have a good shot. I'd say 4-0 and we should be in easily, don't know if that's an actual lock but seems realistically like a near lock. We won't win any tiebreakers unless we are tied with Indy and/or Buffalo, with no one else involved. Pretty much need to pass any team to be ahead, we'll be at the bottom of most blocks of tied teams in the end.
Two weeks ago, after the awful loss to the Steelers, I truly thought I'd seen the last of Bengals games that I actually cared about this year.
We need to finiah 3-1 5o have a good shot. I'd say 4-0 and we should be in easily, don't know if that's an actual lock but seems realistically like a near lock. We won't win any tiebreakers unless we are tied with Indy and/or Buffalo, with no one else involved. Pretty much need to pass any team to be ahead, we'll be at the bottom of most blocks of tied teams in the end.
eighsse2
Footballguy
That was my attempt at humor. My previous thread title was "Joe Burrow Becomes the Highest Paid Backup QB in the NFL" after Browning caught fire. Then changed it after yesterday's game.
QuizGuy66
Footballguy
Adomitis and Browning tendered ERFA contracts as expected
Last year of ERFA for Adomitis - Browning has ANOTHER year after this one. And then a year or RFA.
They cannot negotiate with other teams - basically they can sign for under $1m for the season or not play. They can negotiate a longer term contract - but neither has leverage at all.
Fans around the league and even some of our own fans fancy Browning as a trade target but I cannot imagine any trade offer being remotely worth it. Some mid round pick does nothing - we would have to go out and get a new I,ackup QB for a higher salary at a time when we have a lot of big contract coming up. Teams aren't going to pony up serious draft capital (yes I mean a first rounder) for him since the resume is as thin as it is.
$915k for that slot is impossible value for what he brings. And that is for 2 more years. After that we would give him a first round tender which would still be a bargain. Getting more expensive at that slot for a worse QB? No thanks. Getting a tip top backup would be way too expensive.
Browning is stuck. Only way to get more $ sooner would be to do a long deal at a better rate (but still a rare that is low relative to his true value). Let other fanbases imagine him as a solution. Ain't happenin'
-QG
Last year of ERFA for Adomitis - Browning has ANOTHER year after this one. And then a year or RFA.
They cannot negotiate with other teams - basically they can sign for under $1m for the season or not play. They can negotiate a longer term contract - but neither has leverage at all.
Fans around the league and even some of our own fans fancy Browning as a trade target but I cannot imagine any trade offer being remotely worth it. Some mid round pick does nothing - we would have to go out and get a new I,ackup QB for a higher salary at a time when we have a lot of big contract coming up. Teams aren't going to pony up serious draft capital (yes I mean a first rounder) for him since the resume is as thin as it is.
$915k for that slot is impossible value for what he brings. And that is for 2 more years. After that we would give him a first round tender which would still be a bargain. Getting more expensive at that slot for a worse QB? No thanks. Getting a tip top backup would be way too expensive.
Browning is stuck. Only way to get more $ sooner would be to do a long deal at a better rate (but still a rare that is low relative to his true value). Let other fanbases imagine him as a solution. Ain't happenin'
-QG
eighsse2
Footballguy
That makes sense, I was just thinking about how we could be able to get something for him. But you have to have a backup.
Enzo....the Baker
Footballguy
Moss in, Mixon out
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eighsse2
Footballguy
Yeah, not crazy about Moss.
Is this supposed to be an upgrade or just a cheaper option? Have to wonder is they are counting on Chase Brown having a bigger role.
eighsse2
Footballguy
I would definitely call it a downgrade. I'm thinking thunder/lightning duo with Brown.
rockaction
Footballguy
No no no. I disagree. It's an upgrade. Mixon had very few explosive plays last year. I'm almost certain Moss had more. They looked like different backs last year on their respective teams. That's just my eye test, though, so take it for what it's worth.
eighsse2
Footballguy
I'll factor your eyes in and call it a lateral. I'm probably just stuck in "Moss sucks" mode from drafting him with the #8 pick in 2020 and then letting him eat a roster spot for two years just to trade him for peanuts ... maybe not peanuts, but it wasn't much, I don't remember.
ETA: Also of note. I always think of him as a "big guy". He was 223 at combine. But listed at 205 now.
rockaction
Footballguy
I really think that will have a significant effect on one's judgment. I find that when I'm personally invested that my own judgement gets warped. Moss looked good last year in Indy. I wonder if he'll keep it up in Cincinnati.
QuizGuy66
Footballguy
Moss can pass block - I think it is going to open up the offense a bit. We badly missed Perine 's blocking ability. Moss also has been good at getting yards above expected.
The breaking news is that we are actually getting a pick for Mixon as we are shipping him to the Texans instead of cutting him.
And added Gesicki as our latest contract audition TE which is a move I really like too.
I think with the glut of WR talent in the draft we will end up keeping Tee for this year.
So far liking what we are doing.
-QG
The breaking news is that we are actually getting a pick for Mixon as we are shipping him to the Texans instead of cutting him.
And added Gesicki as our latest contract audition TE which is a move I really like too.
I think with the glut of WR talent in the draft we will end up keeping Tee for this year.
So far liking what we are doing.
-QG
eighsse2
Footballguy
Would love to see him tear it up.
Enzo....the Baker
Footballguy
Rumors swirling here in Cincy that Jefferson is being traded to the Bengals. Reuniting Chase, Burrow, and JJ
QuizGuy66
Footballguy
eighsse2
Footballguy
I remember hearing a rumor a month or two ago that Jefferson specifically wanted to come to Cincy to reunite. I don't know if it was something he actually said or just one of those dumb internet rumors.
eighsse2
Footballguy
Fantasy owners would probably hate it lol. "Is my guy gonna be the one that gets 11-180-3 this week or the one that gets 3-37-0?"
Enzo....the Baker
Footballguy
This is a tough one with age and injury. I feel they are gonna wait it out and snag a DT late off the scrap heap.....or target one of the Texas DTs in the draft. Their pick has some decent talent at OT and DT supposedly available
Whatever teams signs Reader though knows he won't be available until late October or November. May not matter, dudes been a force and may be worth the wait
Enzo....the Baker
Footballguy
Sheldon Rankins, Much needed
Enzo....the Baker
Footballguy
Dude is a pro....great work ethic. Can show the young safeties how to be a proVonn Bell is back
-QG
Enzo....the Baker
Footballguy
I remember hearing a rumor a month or two ago that Jefferson specifically wanted to come to Cincy to reunite. I don't know if it was something he actually said or just one of those dumb internet rumors.
They caught him on a hot mic in a game or.coming off the field after an interception mouthing. "Get me to Cincinnati. "
He was a pain in the *** in NE. Talented though.
NorrisB
Footballguy
It looks like the Bengals plan to take an offensive tackle in the first round. By the looks of it, the target appears to be Amarius Mims. They do have BPA type plans of Brock Bowers Jared Verse, Chop Robinson, Byron Murphy. They used 6 top 30 visits on projected first round OTs and I expect to hear one of their names called. The 6 are Amarius Mims, Graham Burton, Taliese Fuaga, Suamataia, JC Latham and Troy Fautanu. Mims makes the most sense because he's similar to what they have already. Fuaga probably gone and JC Latham looks most similar to Mims. They interviewed Mims the most and do think they are likely to go with him. DT is definitely a need but they need a nose tackle and Newton and Murphy are not nose tackles. They can still get a nose in the second or third round and have the pick of the litter to choose from. It makes sense to protect Burrow. Mims would probably be a top 5 pick if he were to return to Georgia.
1.18. OT. Amarius Mims
2.18 DT Ruke Orhorhoro
1.18. OT. Amarius Mims
2.18 DT Ruke Orhorhoro
NorrisB
Footballguy
saw that coming a mile away. they totally gave that away he was there guy
