I am old enough to remember when soliciting a foreign government to influence an election in your favor was impeachment material.
Biden trying to get Saudi Arabia to influence election?
Funny how the blue team completely lost their **** when DJT had a similar situation with Ukraine. Now we have complete silence.
How was it similar? Digging dirt on an opponent and withholding military aid vs trying to get them to ease price? Its not in the same universe.
Both were designed around naked political gain.
One was threatening withholding aid to hurt his opponent. The other trying to just get favorable news and not threatening anything. Again…not even close to the same and not even close to impeachable.
if you shouldn't do it, you shouldn't do it. unless ya know blue team.
He shouldn’t try to get lower gas prices even if temporary?
um no, not if he is doing it just to get them to wait until after the mid terms. I was told that the biggest problem with trumps phone call was he was trying to get a political benefit.
if the Saudis waited a month then raised prices to which party would that benefit?
I am old enough to remember the term Foreign Quid Pro Quo. What happened yesterday is exactly what Trump was impeached for. Exactly.
What was the quid pro quo? What did he threaten? Exactly? Please. Such a weak comparison. Really really bad.
Did I say Threaten? No, I didn't. But since you asked:
quid pro quo
kwĭd′ prō kwō′
noun
- Something that is given in return for something else or accepted as a reciprocal part of an exchange.
- Something given for something else; a *** for tat; in law, an equivalent; a thing given or offered in exchange for or in consideration of another; the mutual consideration and performance of either party as toward the other in a contract.
So, where do we stand with this?
The Saudis say they are going to reduce their oil supply. Biden then openly talks to Jake Tapper about "consequences" (his words, not mine) when the house and Senate return for "what they've done". Now, normally, I do think if you tell me there are consequences for my actions, I DO tend to take that as a threat on some level.
Now, Quid Pro Quo. Biden then goes to the partners all across OPEC+ and asks them "well, how bout you just wait a month before you increase the prices?" They said "No". Good write up in the Wall Street Journal outlining the timeline. They reportedly "saw right through the political gambit of the Biden administration". So, the withholding of normally promised weapons in exchange for a pushed back date political benefit. Exact same thing.
Then, Politico, in the complete incomprehension to recognize the hypocrisy, runs an article saying "enough is enough. Democrats rage at Saudis over oil cut. VOW TO BLOCK WEAPONS SALE". Sounds a bit threatening, yes?
An angle of Trump's impeachment was the threat to national security (ours or another country's). Isn't that EXACTLY what was conveyed yesterday? Didn't YOUR president threaten the national security of our country and theirs by conveying "consequences" that would impair their ability to defense via weaponry? Yes he did.