he agrees with you on whose fault it is...yet you are still trying to argue with him.On which viewing did you see it hit his sternum?Odd how it's being argued now. Immediately after that play I rewound it on the DVR and watched it three times in slo-mo...concluded right then it was on Manning and posted as such in here. Nobody said a word for at least 45 minutesYou're clearly wrong, but feel free to keep arguing about it.like talking to brick walls sometimes. it's the future HOFer Peyton Manning handing off to a rookie...so it HAS TO BE THE ROOKIES FAULT!The fumble was clearly on Manning. He placed the ball way too high and bounced it off Ball's elbow.That fumble was completely on Ball. He didn't open his arms to take the handoff.
Gotta wonder about Moreno going forward if Ball is going to get the goal line looks. Moreno had been punching those in most of the time.![]()
Yeah, considering he's one of the greatest ever, I'll go out on a limb and say that Jim Brown would be at least a passable running back in a modern KC offense.Charles obviously isn't an "all-timer" at this point in his career and the odds are heavily stacked against him, but I'm sure he'd have a great YPC average if he had played in the 50s.Do you think Charles would do well in the 50s for Cleveland? How about Jim Brown in a modern KC offense? Curious as you bring up an interesting stat.5.5 career YPC for Charles is ridiculous. 0.3 higher than Jim Freaking Brown.
I don't think den has to audible to pick plays, that's just the normal offense. You saw the Welker reception.... when they don't use a pick it's a "trick play".Didja catch Peyton's last audible? "Tar Heel... Tar Heel"
Tar Heel = basketball school. He audibled to a pick play.
My guess is this drive leads to a halftime score of 24-10... but I would be happy to be wrong.I tell you what, being at 17-10 IN Denver, you can't feel bad about things right now being KC. If you go to the locker room down a score you are in this game. Let's see what happens on this drive..
Maybe because he's had about 5 drops and has looked good. Until taking that sack...Why is Collinsworth impressed with Alex Smith? He was 6 of 16 last I looked.
just what I thoughtCan Alex Smith throw it into the end zone? that is a long check down.
who do the chefs put back there to throw the ball more than 15 yards here?

Reid remembered he had a box of devil dogs in the locker room and wanted to get to themI don't understand why you don't kick it there. What the hell.
x2I don't understand why you don't kick it there. What the hell.
Maybe a spatula? Not sure how else a chef would generate enough torque.who do the chefs put back there to throw the ball more than 15 yards here?
Mmmmmmm... devil dogs.Reid remembered he had a box of devil dogs in the locker room and wanted to get to themI don't understand why you don't kick it there. What the hell.
I thought it was pretty disrespectful of ##### bag Del Rio to give Ball the 1/2 yard TD after Moreno Busted his ### to get the 1st down inside the 3 yard line,Moreno looks gassed, on pace for 30 carries...
Ball scored.I thought it was pretty disrespectful of ##### bag Del Rio to give Ball the 1/2 yard TD after Moreno Busted his ### to get the 1st down inside the 3 yard line,Moreno looks gassed, on pace for 30 carries...
KC on the other hand gave the veteran the opportunity after Davis took the ball inside the 5.
Nothing to do with JDR, Ball had paper, covers Morenos rock.I thought it was pretty disrespectful of ##### bag Del Rio to give Ball the 1/2 yard TD after Moreno Busted his ### to get the 1st down inside the 3 yard line,KC on the other hand gave the veteran the opportunity after Davis took the ball inside the 5.Moreno looks gassed, on pace for 30 carries...
but the Chiefs are still in the game.Denver is such a machine. Seems like the Chiefs have played great defense, and the Donks are still on pace for 34.
Del Rio has nothing to do with who gets the ball on offense.I thought it was pretty disrespectful of ##### bag Del Rio to give Ball the 1/2 yard TD after Moreno Busted his ### to get the 1st down inside the 3 yard line,Moreno looks gassed, on pace for 30 carries...
KC on the other hand gave the veteran the opportunity after Davis took the ball inside the 5.
Both of our statements are actually true.but the Chiefs are still in the game.Denver is such a machine. Seems like the Chiefs have played great defense, and the Donks are still on pace for 34.
Yeah Dungy spilled the beans on that particular audible a couple weeks ago.Didja catch Peyton's last audible? "Tar Heel... Tar Heel"
Tar Heel = basketball school. He audibled to a pick play.
Yeah Moreno would have never gotten that half yardBall scored.I thought it was pretty disrespectful of ##### bag Del Rio to give Ball the 1/2 yard TD after Moreno Busted his ### to get the 1st down inside the 3 yard line,Moreno looks gassed, on pace for 30 carries...
KC on the other hand gave the veteran the opportunity after Davis took the ball inside the 5.
Charles didn't.
Who gives a rat's ### about giving it to the veteran other than FF owners?
BTW...I have Moreno...though, benched him for Tate today.
Ball got it. The call was correct. This politics BS is all in your head.Yeah Moreno would have never gotten that half yardBall scored.I thought it was pretty disrespectful of ##### bag Del Rio to give Ball the 1/2 yard TD after Moreno Busted his ### to get the 1st down inside the 3 yard line,Moreno looks gassed, on pace for 30 carries...
KC on the other hand gave the veteran the opportunity after Davis took the ball inside the 5.
Charles didn't.
Who gives a rat's ### about giving it to the veteran other than FF owners?
BTW...I have Moreno...though, benched him for Tate today.
thanks MaddenKC typically wins the TO battle by 1.7, den loses by .2. With a close game like this another TO or two might decide the game.