No, and I've heard a lot of speculation about the same. From what I've heard, he was ready to pick UCLA on the ESPNU show tonight. But, he decided against announcing for some reason and a lot think that his parents are really pushing Georgia and that he'll ultimately end up there.
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jeter23
Footballguy
Wasn't doubting Dogg. Congrats, you got him because you have sucked so bad the past couple years.
Wow. Uhh, thanks? Kinda like Kentucky when Calipari arrived?
jeter23
Footballguy
Was just having a little fun. I thought it was an odd announcement too. I had never seen him interviewed. Represented himself and UCLA very well. Congrats!
No problem. Hey, it's more or less true. UCLA wasn't terrible last year, but it has been a tough run since 2008, particularly this past year. The Bruins did suck.Agreed about Muhammad. Seemed like a respectful and humble kid. And, I can also see what some have joked about with Muhammad in that he's got Mike Tyson-like voice on him.Hopefully, they can sway Tony Parker now, but it's tough to beat out moms.
I am still not sure how excited I am to have Noel coming to Lexington. One of the things that made this year's team so good was the relative maturity of the freshmen - all were team-first type players, very little ego despite the high talent level. I worry that Noel will test that a bit next year. Maybe Cal can instill that in him early. I also think this year's team also benefited from Lamb, Jones, and Miller having been here before - and could provide leadership. Not sure next year's returning players will carry the same weight.
jeter23
Footballguy
Great get. you have the #1 class again (for now)
Yeah, the Bruins now have serious post depth. Things may change, but I don't think Parker's even going to start next year unless Howland changes the offense. I don't see him beating out Josh Smith and Howland prefers face up 4s who can hit jumpers, so I don't think they play next to each other, but who knows.Kentucky will remain #1 on Scout's rankings.
Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
Good to know that Larry Brown is completely deluded. And an ####### to boot.
Who Dat Ninja?
Footballguy
Nice write up on the Jayhawks. I don't post much but am always lurking around, big fan of your post regarding basketball, especially college.
Wanted your opinion (or anyone else who may read this) regarding IU-UK not playing next year? I can see both sides, but being a Hoosier homer, I'm obviously gonna take Indiana's side. Is Cal really that adamant about not playing at Assembly again? Do you think they'll work something out? I grew up going to the neutral site games, which were fun, but a football stadium just sucks the life outta of the game (outside of the NCAA tourney), I'd much rather the games be on campus.
Also, I've heard the possible Kansas-IU home & home is dead right now, any chance you think those talks may pick up again? That would be fun series to get started.
Wanted your opinion (or anyone else who may read this) regarding IU-UK not playing next year? I can see both sides, but being a Hoosier homer, I'm obviously gonna take Indiana's side. Is Cal really that adamant about not playing at Assembly again? Do you think they'll work something out? I grew up going to the neutral site games, which were fun, but a football stadium just sucks the life outta of the game (outside of the NCAA tourney), I'd much rather the games be on campus.
Also, I've heard the possible Kansas-IU home & home is dead right now, any chance you think those talks may pick up again? That would be fun series to get started.
UK was looking to give up one of its rivalry games as the SEC expands, and creates fewer non-conference games. Indiana also realized that it loses a home court advantage in nearly any neutral court game with UK - UK fans simply travel better.
The lack of security at Assembly Hall is just a convenient excuse...it was lacking, but for UK this was about money, and creating another "home" game on the schedule. For IU, they were afraid of losing a home game, and the home court advantage they wanted when playing a top opponent.
UK offered to play all the neutral site games in Indiana.
not sure what else IU needed to keep the series alive.
The lack of security at Assembly Hall is just a convenient excuse...it was lacking, but for UK this was about money, and creating another "home" game on the schedule. For IU, they were afraid of losing a home game, and the home court advantage they wanted when playing a top opponent.
UK offered to play all the neutral site games in Indiana.
not sure what else IU needed to keep the series alive.
Who Dat Ninja?
Footballguy
Thanks for the response, and you do bring up some valid points, but I disagree with a few of them. I know UK was looking to drop a series (IU, UL or UNC, funny they dropped 2, tho I guess the UNC series may start again after next year). But offering to play IU at Lucas isn't exactly dropping the series. Sure IU has an advantage at Assembly, same as UK as an advantage at Rupp. And yes, BBN travels great, but they don't outdraw IU in Indy (or even Louisville when it was there), those crowds were pretty much a 50-50 split. You can say all IU had to do is agree to play at Lucas, the same as all UK had to do is agree to play home & home to keep the series going.Furthermore, what's IU's motivation to play at Lucas? They already play at least once if not twice in Indy every year anyway. Not that UK has any trouble recruiting, but no way does IU want to let them come Indy to showcase the program for the plethora of high school talent in the Indy area.I don't really blame either side, they both have their reasons, it sucks the series is going to end because they can't figure this out.(BTW, thanks for saying the security issue was overblown, I don't doubt there were problems and that's embarrassing as a Hoosier fan, but I have a hard time buying that would be an issue going forward) Additionally, it's nice to have a rational conversation about it. Every other board is nothing but "banner #8" or Cal is so scared of Assembly.Hopefully this all gets settled next year in the tourney, as a Hoosier fan it's been too long, nice to see em relevant again.Congrats on the season, I obviously hate UK with a passion but it was hard dislike that team, fun to watch.UK was looking to give up one of its rivalry games as the SEC expands, and creates fewer non-conference games. Indiana also realized that it loses a home court advantage in nearly any neutral court game with UK - UK fans simply travel better. The lack of security at Assembly Hall is just a convenient excuse...it was lacking, but for UK this was about money, and creating another "home" game on the schedule. For IU, they were afraid of losing a home game, and the home court advantage they wanted when playing a top opponent. UK offered to play all the neutral site games in Indiana.
TLEF316
Footballguy
I have no issues at all with UK wanting to play IU at neutral sites. Makes sense on every single level.
I do think its pretty funny that the crazy UK fans around the internet (not the guys here, the idiots that post at Rupp's Rafters) have been killing Mike Krzyzewski forever about this same issue. For years, they've been making their way over to the Duke message boards asking why coach K is "scared to play at Rupp". Now, of course, their spin is that UK was treated badly, that its more profitable for them and that it makes more sense from a competitive stand point because tournament games are played on neutral courts at big venues.....basically the same stuff Duke fans have been telling them since the Clinton administration.
I obviously love games at on-campus arenas, but it just makes too much sense to play at neutral sites.
I do think its pretty funny that the crazy UK fans around the internet (not the guys here, the idiots that post at Rupp's Rafters) have been killing Mike Krzyzewski forever about this same issue. For years, they've been making their way over to the Duke message boards asking why coach K is "scared to play at Rupp". Now, of course, their spin is that UK was treated badly, that its more profitable for them and that it makes more sense from a competitive stand point because tournament games are played on neutral courts at big venues.....basically the same stuff Duke fans have been telling them since the Clinton administration.
I obviously love games at on-campus arenas, but it just makes too much sense to play at neutral sites.
Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
NCAA investigating Nerlens Noel.
Obligatory: abolish the NCAA.
Obligatory: abolish the NCAA.
Frostillicus
Footballguy
This is all Jim Calhoun's fault.
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Footballguy
He was willing to give NN a nice home at UConn, but noooooo.
Frostillicus
Footballguy
The rigorous academic standards at UCONN must have scared him off.
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Footballguy
I respect schools that have the lowest academic standards possible, as they do the least to reinforce the farce of the NCAA "student-athlete."
Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
The APR really isn't about academics. It's worth discussing (although probably beating a dead horse at this point), and probably not with the person who is the sole reason this is named the "Knitting" thread.
NMYMND
Footballguy
The Peterson scenario is interesting. If I understand this, the APR is a 4-year average, and Peterson was only there for the fourth year. looks like coaches may need to investigate the APR standing before accepting a job, or, if Peterson came in and forced transfers that tipped the scale, it may serve to protect kids from new coaches running them off in the future.
It's a little misleading imo. Kentucky will have 11 first round picks in the last three years after the 2012 draft. UCLA has only six since 2002, and none since 2009. Assuming Lamb and Miller go in the 2nd round, that would make 26 NBA players Calipari has coached in the last 10 years.
Why would Kentucky get credit for Memphis players?We can also look at it from the minutes played statistic where duke and UCLA are one and two.
Because players these days play for coaches, not schools. In fact, the article is as much about Ben Howland as it is UCLA - and the 5 schools grouped with 14-15 NBA draftees in the last 10 years. The timing of the article is also curious - given that UK is likely to match the 15 players drafted with just the last 3 years after this draft. If we are talking about coaches and programs putting players in the NBA - the top of the list is Calipari and the current UK program.
Grady Wilson
Footballguy
lol. I love how Buck Stop is so caught up in anything UNC and I mean ANYTHING. It's pathetic, sad, oh so funny at the same time.
Buck Stop
Footballguy
Grady Wilson
Footballguy
Oh, the irony. PLEASE keep posting here. Your comedic posts continue to make me laugh. I've never seen someone post so much with so little to offer. You should be proud. THUMBS UP TO YOU!!!
Buck Stop
Footballguy
Do you think I care one way or the other what you think about my posts? You could post 100 times a day, or get hit by a bus tomorrow and never post again and it wouldn't affect me either way.
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The piece in this week's New Yorker about the havoc that the (hard) drug trade has wrought across Mexico really makes one wonder how we collectively realized that alcohol prohibition is a bad idea, yet this continues. Anyway:Here's a big-### recruiting update for Connecticut, which hits upon a lot of well-known names: http://blog.ctnews.com/uconnbasketball/2012/07/01/recruiting-roundup-class-of-2013/
Buck Stop
Footballguy
Nice article on the UNC Cheating Scandal
Drip. Drip. Drip-drip.
The Old Well isn't supposed to act like this.
The Old Well — situated at the heart of the original North Carolina campus and the approximate center of the state — evolved into a symbolic fountain of youth, truth and the unquenchable thirst for knowledge.
Or maybe it's 95 degrees under the spreading poplar and you need a sip to reach the library. Either way, the water flows. At least water flowed symbolically, as well as practically, until the football scandal reduced Carolina to sputtering spasms of implausible excuses and incomplete answers.
The NCAA investigated transgressions committed under coach Butch Davis' ambitious reign and measured Carolina's wishful list of self-imposed penalties. The NCAA gagged — a rare occurrence for such worldly travelers — and piled on more time and added a 2012 bowl ban.
Carolina did not appeal, resigned to spend three years on the probationary clock and forfeit 15 scholarships.
That was four months ago, but that wasn't the end of the story.
Last summer, while the administration prepared for the NCAA hearing, the head of the Department of African and Afro-American Studies arranged a last-minute summer-school course. The News & Observer, which has investigated the scandal vigorously, pursued university records that, when finally released, showed the course instantly attracted 19 students — 18 football players and one former player. Although there was no instruction, just a paper at the end, 24-year department chairman Julius Nyang'oro was paid the customary $12,000.
Carolina reported the athletes-only class to the NCAA, which had concluded the bulk of its football inquiry. The university eventually ordered a review of the department's course offerings from 2007 through '11.
The review, headed by senior associate deans Jonathan Hartlyn and William L. Andrews, concluded that the Afro-American studies department had offered 54 suspicious classes, classes with scant instruction and some unauthorized grade changes. Football players accounted for more than one-third of the 686 students in those courses, with all but nine courses under Nyang'oro's direction.
Carolina had already approved the chairman's retirement, effective July 1. The school started trying to recover the $12,000 payment on the grounds that Nyang'oro didn't perform his duties in the publicized summer course. The SBI is also investigating the payment and the possible forgeries of some instructors' signatures on school documents.
The deans described themselves as deeply disturbed by the abuses, which they said could have begun before 2007. "We regret that we cannot assign with complete confidence the responsibility for the unprofessional and, in some cases, professionally unethical actions uncovered by our investigation," they wrote in the May 2 report.
Despite the unresolved issues, chancellor Holden Thorp decided that a four-year study sufficed. Thorp, who had overseen the department as dean of the College of Arts and Sciences, endorsed procedural reforms and delivered the findings to the UNC System's Board of Governors.
President Tom Ross initially resisted calls for further investigation but later appointed four board members to review the Carolina study. They will meet for the first time this week. Joni Worthington, the system's vice president for communications, said that the panel would reach its conclusions before the board decides whether or not to launch a fresh investigation. The process could take months.
Meanwhile, Carolina continues the slow release of public records.
The latest records, with many of the pages censored until virtually blank, illustrate Carolina's twisted posturing during the NCAA investigation. A football player working on a paper sends an email frantically seeking assistance from a tutor: "I still need help with my __. I'm having trouble finding articles that relate directly to ___ and I need some help on my conclusion."
A return email from the tutor declares: "Hey, ____, I looked over your paper and expanded it in a lot or areas!!! You are now at 8½ pages!!! That means only a page and a half to go!! Now I am attaching two articles I found that relate directly to ____. They are what you should use for the last page and a half. I will definitely help with the conclusion once you work on this some!"
The conversation is contained in a letter that **** Baddour, the former athletics director, wrote to the NCAA while trying to get this player reinstated. Baddour argued that no direct information showed improper help on the paper. "Ultimately," Baddour wrote, "the exact nature of the assistance provided by ____, despite the language in her email, is not conclusive."
As Andy Griffith might have said during his Carolina days: "Lordy, mercy."
Despite all the conclusions reached during two years of investigations, the Carolina case is not over, even if the NCAA looks away. Some university leaders and some fans want to shut the door and move on, but that will not work.
The academic scandal far outweighs the football scandal, dragging down Carolina's severely wounded reputation with each revelation, drip by drip. The mold will continue to grow until the Board of Governors or someone else shines a light in all the corners, for all to see.
Drip. Drip. Drip-drip.
The Old Well isn't supposed to act like this.
The Old Well — situated at the heart of the original North Carolina campus and the approximate center of the state — evolved into a symbolic fountain of youth, truth and the unquenchable thirst for knowledge.
Or maybe it's 95 degrees under the spreading poplar and you need a sip to reach the library. Either way, the water flows. At least water flowed symbolically, as well as practically, until the football scandal reduced Carolina to sputtering spasms of implausible excuses and incomplete answers.
The NCAA investigated transgressions committed under coach Butch Davis' ambitious reign and measured Carolina's wishful list of self-imposed penalties. The NCAA gagged — a rare occurrence for such worldly travelers — and piled on more time and added a 2012 bowl ban.
Carolina did not appeal, resigned to spend three years on the probationary clock and forfeit 15 scholarships.
That was four months ago, but that wasn't the end of the story.
Last summer, while the administration prepared for the NCAA hearing, the head of the Department of African and Afro-American Studies arranged a last-minute summer-school course. The News & Observer, which has investigated the scandal vigorously, pursued university records that, when finally released, showed the course instantly attracted 19 students — 18 football players and one former player. Although there was no instruction, just a paper at the end, 24-year department chairman Julius Nyang'oro was paid the customary $12,000.
Carolina reported the athletes-only class to the NCAA, which had concluded the bulk of its football inquiry. The university eventually ordered a review of the department's course offerings from 2007 through '11.
The review, headed by senior associate deans Jonathan Hartlyn and William L. Andrews, concluded that the Afro-American studies department had offered 54 suspicious classes, classes with scant instruction and some unauthorized grade changes. Football players accounted for more than one-third of the 686 students in those courses, with all but nine courses under Nyang'oro's direction.
Carolina had already approved the chairman's retirement, effective July 1. The school started trying to recover the $12,000 payment on the grounds that Nyang'oro didn't perform his duties in the publicized summer course. The SBI is also investigating the payment and the possible forgeries of some instructors' signatures on school documents.
The deans described themselves as deeply disturbed by the abuses, which they said could have begun before 2007. "We regret that we cannot assign with complete confidence the responsibility for the unprofessional and, in some cases, professionally unethical actions uncovered by our investigation," they wrote in the May 2 report.
Despite the unresolved issues, chancellor Holden Thorp decided that a four-year study sufficed. Thorp, who had overseen the department as dean of the College of Arts and Sciences, endorsed procedural reforms and delivered the findings to the UNC System's Board of Governors.
President Tom Ross initially resisted calls for further investigation but later appointed four board members to review the Carolina study. They will meet for the first time this week. Joni Worthington, the system's vice president for communications, said that the panel would reach its conclusions before the board decides whether or not to launch a fresh investigation. The process could take months.
Meanwhile, Carolina continues the slow release of public records.
The latest records, with many of the pages censored until virtually blank, illustrate Carolina's twisted posturing during the NCAA investigation. A football player working on a paper sends an email frantically seeking assistance from a tutor: "I still need help with my __. I'm having trouble finding articles that relate directly to ___ and I need some help on my conclusion."
A return email from the tutor declares: "Hey, ____, I looked over your paper and expanded it in a lot or areas!!! You are now at 8½ pages!!! That means only a page and a half to go!! Now I am attaching two articles I found that relate directly to ____. They are what you should use for the last page and a half. I will definitely help with the conclusion once you work on this some!"
The conversation is contained in a letter that **** Baddour, the former athletics director, wrote to the NCAA while trying to get this player reinstated. Baddour argued that no direct information showed improper help on the paper. "Ultimately," Baddour wrote, "the exact nature of the assistance provided by ____, despite the language in her email, is not conclusive."
As Andy Griffith might have said during his Carolina days: "Lordy, mercy."
Despite all the conclusions reached during two years of investigations, the Carolina case is not over, even if the NCAA looks away. Some university leaders and some fans want to shut the door and move on, but that will not work.
The academic scandal far outweighs the football scandal, dragging down Carolina's severely wounded reputation with each revelation, drip by drip. The mold will continue to grow until the Board of Governors or someone else shines a light in all the corners, for all to see.
TLEF316
Footballguy
All 3 UCLA freshman under investigation.
The Muhammad investigation has been going for a while, but the Anderson stuff is just now coming out to the mainstream. The rumors (and that's certainly all they probably are) were that Anderson's father told another coach that UCLA offered them 250K and a house when they showed up for their in-home visit. I find this very hard to believe, but it is what it is.
I'm not sure what they're investigating about Parker. I know UCLA hired his old AAU coach, and I'm guessing that has something to do with it.
The Muhammad investigation has been going for a while, but the Anderson stuff is just now coming out to the mainstream. The rumors (and that's certainly all they probably are) were that Anderson's father told another coach that UCLA offered them 250K and a house when they showed up for their in-home visit. I find this very hard to believe, but it is what it is.
I'm not sure what they're investigating about Parker. I know UCLA hired his old AAU coach, and I'm guessing that has something to do with it.
Sounds like Tony Parker's clear and has been certified by the NCAA.The Muhammads are saying that they may have screwed up with the unofficials they took to Duke and UNC that were paid for by one of Shabazz's "advisors." They are adamant that the only things they have been asked about are with regard to those and that they've given the NCAA everything. They expect to have to "take their medicine" with regard to those.
As for Kyle Anderson, I have no idea what they are looking into. The Andersons have also said they've provided all of the information that the NCAA has asked for and they are 100% sure nothing will come of it.
Now, take that with a grain of salt, I guess. What are the families going to say? They both have said that they've been completely transparent and cooperated fully, but we'll see.
A UCLA Scout website is who broke the story, and it had a pretty ominous tone, which isn't great.
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Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
UNC didn't break any NCAA rules with their fake classes, apparently.
Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
Top 20 Jabari Bird stays home and picks Cal. Lots of prep talent in the Bay Area right now.
TLEF316
Footballguy
The Oakland soldiers aau team has been absolutely stacked the past 2 summers. That's an awesome pickup for Cal
Yes, and they absolutely hate the UCLA basketball program. UCLA has virtually no shot of landing a Soldiers player.
Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
Ricky Ledo not eligible to play for Providence JC this year, but can practice/stay on scholarship. Europe?
It was awesome when LeBron played for the Oakland Soldiers.
It was awesome when LeBron played for the Oakland Soldiers.
TLEF316
Footballguy
Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
This also directly precipitated the rule that you must live within 100 miles of the AAU team you play for.
Lance Thomas was able to come up with $30,000 as a senior at Duke to pay for custom jewelry. Pretty impressive for a college senior, if true. The firm caters to professional athletes and provided him with $68,000 in credit that he never repaid. They are now suing him.
Glasshouses and what not?
Glasshouses and what not?
From CBS.
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Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
Well, question one, obviously, is where did the 30K come from.
Question two is where Lance Thomas thought the additional 70K was going to come from.
This is a pretty stupid thing to do, but even if it turns out Thomas got the 30K from a source that would render him ineligible, I doubt the banner's coming down.
Question two is where Lance Thomas thought the additional 70K was going to come from.
This is a pretty stupid thing to do, but even if it turns out Thomas got the 30K from a source that would render him ineligible, I doubt the banner's coming down.
Of course not and as Ripley will undoubtedly tell is, this a complete misunderstanding.As much as I thought something would have come about from the UNC academic scandal, it would be kind of amusing to me after how much BuckRipley banged the drum for UNC being cheaters if they played an ineligible player who had received improper benefits for the sacred Duke basketball team.
TLEF316
Footballguy
i can't believe Thomas would do something this stupid. Apparently Thomas' family does ok financially, but obviously nowhere near well enough to drop 100K on some stupid ### jewelry. (I'll never understand why athletes, especially black athletes are so into this stupid crap)
This looks horrible on all levels. That being said, what kind of businessman gives 70K in credit to a 22 year old who had no chance of being drafted?
Shame on Thomas. God forbid you wait 3 months until the season is over to buy a black diamond studded jesus necklace
And yes, this makes all crap Duke fans talked about UNC the last few weeks look very stupid (even though what happened at UNC is worse than this, its still probably against the rules if true)
This looks horrible on all levels. That being said, what kind of businessman gives 70K in credit to a 22 year old who had no chance of being drafted?
Shame on Thomas. God forbid you wait 3 months until the season is over to buy a black diamond studded jesus necklace
And yes, this makes all crap Duke fans talked about UNC the last few weeks look very stupid (even though what happened at UNC is worse than this, its still probably against the rules if true)
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