*** Official Lost Season 6 *** (1 Viewer)

[caabeel]

Clever. Not sure why the fact I enjoyed the finale bothers you so much. I don't care that you disliked it. I've simply stated the reasons why it worked for me. You disagree. That's fine. It doesn't make my enjoyment any less relevant or your disappointment any less relevant. I know plenty of people who really liked "The Sopranos" finale. I didn't. I don't mock them for liking it. I understand that we can both watch the same show and come away with different reactions to what we've seen.

No, apparently you aren't allowed to do that. If the explanation behind your enjoyment doesn't agree with mine, you couldn't have POSSIBLY enjoyed it.

 

[3 hour lunch]

I liked the finale for the most part. I knew they weren't going to explain every mystery but they did explain several things and make the ending as happy as possible considering how many people were actually left alive towards the end. I had completely forgot about Shannon, especially since she wasn't on the episode earlier this year that Boone was on. A couple questions, sorry if it's been covered:

I don't get the 'Jack's son' piece. If it's purgatory, how does he exist there?

Claire actually gives birth in purgatory?

I liked all the reunions and it was especially dusty for the Kate/Claire/Charlie one. Closing the loops on the characters and answering a few things is about what I expected out of the finale, and I was pleasanatly surprised, I guess.

 

[Lehigh98]

Humor me for a minute. Could a case be made that exploding the bomb sank the island AND killed everyone on it and that season 6 was all limbo and purgatory on BOTH the island and in the flash sideways?Both had themes of redemption, both had characters doing things that they wished they could do or filling roles that they wanted, both had the battle of faith vs science, etc.If not, there are many things that don't add up in terms of timelines, who lives/dies, who gets off the island/who doesn't, etc.IMO, Juliet saying that "it worked" could reflect all of them getting off the island by dying and getting back together after they had died.

Yeah, its possible and someone had mentioned it a few pages back too. I'm still not entirely comfortable with the aftermath of the bomb on the island. All the candidates survive? Kate wakes up in a tree? What could blow her up into a tree but with no injury? Juliette saying that it worked?But still think the timeline on the island after that is the real one and LA is limbo only. Needed a true resolution to the battle with MIB on the island and as somone else just mentioned about Kate saying it had been so long since she'd seen Jack. If they died in the explosion it would have been a shorter amount of time, days instead of decades. Or maybe even days felt like a long time. Who knows?Will be nice if Cuse and Lindelof come back and discuss after this period of acceptance and interpretation they want to give everyone first. In interviews they always seem to love having the answers that we don't. Maybe they'll come back to have fun telling us all the stuff they know and we don't about the finale. Or maybe they'll just choose to hold onto that knowledge that we don't have and just sit back and keep smiling.

 

[Statorama]

What were Jacob and the MIB? (Serious question)

Original sin?

 

[The Duff Man]

I liked the finale for the most part. I knew they weren't going to explain every mystery but they did explain several things and make the ending as happy as possible considering how many people were actually left alive towards the end. I had completely forgot about Shannon, especially since she wasn't on the episode earlier this year that Boone was on. A couple questions, sorry if it's been covered:I don't get the 'Jack's son' piece. If it's purgatory, how does he exist there? Claire actually gives birth in purgatory?I liked all the reunions and it was especially dusty for the Kate/Claire/Charlie one. Closing the loops on the characters and answering a few things is about what I expected out of the finale, and I was pleasanatly surprised, I guess.

They had to "let go" of their issues before moving on. Because it was a place built by them, then subconciously it was built to help them let go. For Claire, it meant that she had to give birth to Aaron and keep him. For Jack, he had to get over his daddy issues, and one of the ways he could do this was not to repeat the cycle with his own son. Of course, he sacrificed the chance to have a son, so in Limbo he created one. He reconciled with his son, and reconciled with his father and this helped him let go. He had a flashback with Kate, but he was still in the dark about the whole thing until he touched his father's coffin. That was the moment when he was ready to move on.

 

[wikkidpissah]

I'm a big Abrams fan but other than writing and directing the pilot and helping to create the series, I don't think he's had any creative input since then. The finale struck me as being entirely Cuse and Lindelof.

Disagree. I'm guessing that Cuse & Lindehof became an entity during the course of the show & Abrams entrusted them with the 4-6 arc (which explains the disconnect: while the "tribes" gestalt of 1-3 was very Abrams, he was fascinated by the time-travel/mythology angles and turned the plotting over to them once they got the go-ahead from network to resolve the show as they wanted), but EVERYTHING was run by the boss first.

I admit I don't know the specifics about Abrams' involvement since the pilot but based on what I've read it sounds like he had very little creative involvement with the series after the first season. If someone knows more specifically please correct me if I'm wrong about that.

You're right. From Lostpedia:

Early in Season 1, Abrams was busy with producing and directing Mission: Impossible III. When Damon Lindelof was considering quitting Lost due to the sudden burden, Carlton Cuse talked him out of leaving and joined the show's staff as an executive producer.[3] From this point on, Abrams stopped being directly involved with the show.[4] Abrams briefly considered returning to the show and getting "more involved" with Season 3. Even though he intended directing an episode and "writing some"[5], he ultimately only ended up co-writing the Season 3 premiere, "A Tale of Two Cities", together with Damon Lindelof. (The Lost: Missing Pieces mobisode "The Envelope", which was officially released over a year later, also has an Abrams/Lindelof writing credit, but is actually a deleted scene from "A Tale of Two Cities").In an appearance on Jimmy Kimmel Live! in early May 2008, Damon Lindelof denied rumors of not having heard from Abrams in years, and confirmed still being in contact with him. At the 2009 Hawaii International Film Festival, Lindelof stated that Abrams watches Lost as a fan, seeing the episodes for the first time as they air, and has "expressed an interest and curiosity in how the show is going to end."[6] Abrams is still credited as an executive producer of the show as of Season 5. Abrams will not be involved with Season 6, as he thinks that Damon and Carlton themselves should finish what they have been doing with the show.

Sounds to me like he hasn't had much to do with Lost for years.

My bad, i guess. Admittedly, i see the Abrams thumbprint on 1-3 a lot more than 4-6 but, tho I knew that the numerous Abrams projects had the greatest part of his attention, I just couldnt imagine what i know of him to allow for a complete release of interest/control. I have now been disabused of that notion & defer.

 

[Iraqi Information Minister]

What were Jacob and the MIB? (Serious question)

Original sin?

MacGuffins. Like the Maltese Falcon.

 

[packersfan]

I had completely forgot about Shannon, especially since she wasn't on the episode earlier this year that Boone was on.

I read somewhere a few weeks ago that Shannon and Booth would both be back for the finale. I wasn't sure what role she'd play but as soon as I saw the blonde get tossed outside the bar I knew it was them.

 

[Bobcat10]

Special shout out to Time Warner Northeast Ohio for having technical difficulties all night long. The entire show was choppy every 5 to 15 seconds. They kept putting on the screen that technical engineers were working on fixing it. Nice work, engineers! And now they are saying it will air again Saturday night in full. GREAT

 

[Statorama]

1. When Jack walked past has father's white tennis shoe hanging from the bamboo in his death scene last night it was weathered, a clear attempt to show that real time had passed since the initial Oceanic 815 crash that flung him into the bamboo. The shoe was clean and white in the opening scene.

Wasn't his dad wearing dress shoes on the plane ride? (casket Christian)

 

[Maik Jeaunz]

I thought it was brilliant. it was beautiful and sad, but positive, and I was moved by it. I actually couldn't sleep for a while afterward because I was thinking about it, and not in a bad or disappointed way.

I'm in the sideways = "waiting room" camp. they all died at different times, but couldn't pass over until they were reunited with those people from the most important time in their lives to share the sacrifice/love/redemption that they all needed. some people (Ana Lucia, Eko, Walt, etc.) just weren't ready to move on yet, or didn't have a strong enough connection. Ben didn't move on because he "had some things to work on"...personally, I just think he wanted to stay with Alex a little longer and be the father that he always wanted to be. I think Jack and Juliet's son wasn't real, just a construct of that waiting room universe, which is why Jack and Juliet never asked "where's my son?" once they had been enlightened.

I think that everything that happened before the crash and on the island really happened. I'm fine with the island being a mythical, magical place...it's been there a long time, evidenced by the statue and ancient hieroglyphics that can be seen, even on the stone that bottled up the light. some of the things that happened over the years have been island mythology (smoke monster, etc.) and some have been Jacob's rules (no babies being born), and I'm okay with not needing everything spelled out for me. my take is that all of the things that happened on the island (and some off island) did so in order to get Jack in the perfect spot to finally take out MIB for good. that was his destiny, and that's what he gave his life for. the shot of the plane parts on the beach at the end, but no bodies, just reinforces that what happened happened.

regarding the island being underwater, I think that's either in the future when the island no longer needs to be protected, or it's what would have happened if Jack hadn't beaten the MIB. either way, it doesn't change my opinion of the show.

 

[beer 30]

Was there even a moment in the finale that comes close to the "We have to go back Kate" moment?I would have to say that was the pinnacle of the show.

Fine point, ending the show right there would have been the shark move. Then coming back in two years after you get your #### together to figure out the rest of the stories instead of inventing elaborate internet pages to fill viewers minds with wonder & expectation during the offseason. Bah!

 

[The Noid]

Glad someone finally brought up Alias. If you want to really see a show that had no idea where it was going, week to week and season to season, you should check it out. It was a cool spy/action show with interesting characters that wanted to work mythology into it desperately, but never successfully. I finished the series but knew what I was getting into by continuing to watch once it really went into a tailspin.

 

[Joseph]

If there is a Spinoff, it should be about Miles. Maybe he re-integrates Richard into the real world and hilarity ensues?

unfrozen 19th century spanish dude lawyer?

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

People who think they all died in the plane and the island stuff never happened, how do you explain the Oceanic people knowing Desmond and Ben? How do you explain Ben apologizing to Locke for killing him and Locke forgiving him?

 

[Statorama]

Glad someone finally brought up Alias. If you want to really see a show that had no idea where it was going, week to week and season to season, you should check it out. It was a cool spy/action show with interesting characters that wanted to work mythology into it desperately, but never successfully. I finished the series but knew what I was getting into by continuing to watch once it really went into a tailspin.

ABC hated that show, continuously moving it around until it finally died under it's own weight.Big fan of the Alias "early years"

 

[Oly]

I have a feeling that when the producers and ABC want to get more money, they will be doing a Star Wars'esque "prequel". This will show more answers to the island questions.

 

[oso diablo]

2. Apparently the shots of the wreckage that aired with the closing credits- after the LOST logo- weren't part of the script, and that footage didn't air in other countries.

i thought at the time that showing the crash debris was an artistic mistake, because it detracted from the powerful end shot of Jack's eye closing. And now that i see that these shots are also causing confusion about what happened, then i count it as a huge mistake on the producers' part.

 

[cstu]

People who think they all died in the plane and the island stuff never happened, how do you explain the Oceanic people knowing Desmond and Ben? How do you explain Ben apologizing to Locke for killing him and Locke forgiving him?

If all of this happened in Jack's subconscious as he was dying on the island then there was no real Desmond, Ben, etc.I know I'm in a great minority by saying that the show makes more sense as a creation of Jack's dying mind, but it's much more satisfying than the obvious-Island happened, ATL was limbo.

 

[jonboltz]

Humor me for a minute. Could a case be made that exploding the bomb sank the island AND killed everyone on it and that season 6 was all limbo and purgatory on BOTH the island and in the flash sideways?

Both had themes of redemption, both had characters doing things that they wished they could do or filling roles that they wanted, both had the battle of faith vs science, etc.

If not, there are many things that don't add up in terms of timelines, who lives/dies, who gets off the island/who doesn't, etc.

IMO, Juliet saying that "it worked" could reflect all of them getting off the island by dying and getting back together after they had died.

Thought about this for a while, but if you re-watch Season 6 opener when she died (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbPfzT-ybMI), she is relaying the conversation she has with Sawyer at the vending machine. It appears that as she was dying, she was able to see that she would meet up with Sawyer again in the afterlife...

 

[larry_boy_44]

Kate was SMOKING hot in that black dress. good god.and it shouldn't have been Shannon with Sayid. Shoulda been Nadia. They crow barred Shannon in because they had to get Sayid to remember.

Nadia is what Sayid thought he wanted. Shannon is what he needed. Sometimes life gives you only what you need, and not what you want. (My take, anyway)

Sayid could NEVER let go of his past and move on from who he was and the horrible things he did with Nadia...with Shannon, for a moment, on the island he did move on past what he did and who he was...

 

[Iraqi Information Minister]

Thought about this for a while, but if you re-watch Season 6 opener when she died (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbPfzT-ybMI), she is relaying the conversation she has with Sawyer at the vending machine. It appears that as she was dying, she was able to see that she would meet up with Sawyer again in the afterlife...

Oh DANG that's a great catch! "I have to tell you something....it's really, really important...."

I think you found the Rosetta Stone here.

 

[stbugs]

Humor me for a minute. Could a case be made that exploding the bomb sank the island AND killed everyone on it and that season 6 was all limbo and purgatory on BOTH the island and in the flash sideways?Both had themes of redemption, both had characters doing things that they wished they could do or filling roles that they wanted, both had the battle of faith vs science, etc.If not, there are many things that don't add up in terms of timelines, who lives/dies, who gets off the island/who doesn't, etc.IMO, Juliet saying that "it worked" could reflect all of them getting off the island by dying and getting back together after they had died.

I'm saying no. Kate said to Jack when they were reunited in the alt world that she had missed him for so long. I think this indicates she kept on living a long life after leaving him on the island. Also, Hurley and Ben had a relationship as #1 and #2 on the island. I see no reason to treat those as anything other than 'real' in terms of the show.

I am thinking what you are. I think the Hurley to Ben exchange and Kate's exchange were there to show us that life went on post Jack dieing on the island before the all passed on, etc.Also, Christian Shephard's line about time not applying was meant to tie up David's timeline issues. The after life doesn't have a timeline, just "souls" that were tied together that didn't pass on until they were all together/finally dead.

 

[stbugs]

Thought about this for a while, but if you re-watch Season 6 opener when she died (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbPfzT-ybMI), she is relaying the conversation she has with Sawyer at the vending machine. It appears that as she was dying, she was able to see that she would meet up with Sawyer again in the afterlife...

Oh DANG that's a great catch!

I watched the premier on Saturday night and I noticed quite a few things that related to scenes (especially Locke's oldest game backgammon speech to Walt about light versus dark) much later in the show, including this season. I think rewatching it all will be pretty cool.Also, loved the Jack and Locke shot of them looking into the well last night, which I assume was meant to parallel the scene of the two of them (with real Locke) looking into the hatch after they blew it up. Lots of shout outs last night to earlier stuff.

 

[Nick Vermeil]

Thought about this for a while, but if you re-watch Season 6 opener when she died (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbPfzT-ybMI), she is relaying the conversation she has with Sawyer at the vending machine. It appears that as she was dying, she was able to see that she would meet up with Sawyer again in the afterlife...

Oh DANG that's a great catch! "I have to tell you something....it's really, really important...."

I think you found the Rosetta Stone here.

Yeah, that's awesome.

 

[Snickers]

Glad someone finally brought up Alias. If you want to really see a show that had no idea where it was going, week to week and season to season, you should check it out. It was a cool spy/action show with interesting characters that wanted to work mythology into it desperately, but never successfully. I finished the series but knew what I was getting into by continuing to watch once it really went into a tailspin.

La Femme Nikita on USA Network was a much, much better show then what Alias had going on

 

[Lehigh98]

Just for kicks...

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Its been a fun ride.

 

[LAUNCH]

I fell asleep during the show, but can someone explain Charlie? In the sideways flashback he showed Desmond what was going on, but after Desmond got everyone back together he was back to being drugged out Charlie. What did I miss?

 

[KGB]

No, Jin is dead, we saw their lifeless hands floating.

We didnt see/dont know if lapedis and richard are.

Richard just seemed too important not to make a re-appearance, and as long as the plane isnt blown up, there is a reason for lapedis to still be alive.

I think lapedius will show up, and they will try to fly off. I dont think it will work.

I just cant see Jack, Sawyer, Kate, or Hurley dying.

Earlier they said something like "someone needs to make the ultimate sacrifice" or sacrifice themselves for the island. I dont think Jack is new jacob, at least not permanently.

I think it will be sawyer (light hair) and jack as the MIB (dark hair)

Not bad on my part

 

[tdoss]

It'd be nice if they did the recap with the thought bubbles like they've done in previous episodes for this finale.

But they won't...can't have thought bubbles to explain all the nonsense they left on the floor.

 

[bostonfred]

I fell asleep during the show, but can someone explain Charlie? In the sideways flashback he showed Desmond what was going on, but after Desmond got everyone back together he was back to being drugged out Charlie. What did I miss?

Charlie had his memory flashback thing and realized that whatever was going on, didn't matter. So he went back to the drugs and couldn't be bothered to go to gigs because he thought everything was meaningless. He crashed Desmond's car into the water because he didn't care, as much as he did it to jog Desmond's memory. But while Charlie figured out that the world was meaningless and decided to turn to drugs and stop caring, Desmond figured out that the world was meaningless and sought out a way to give it meaning. So he collected the people around him and converted them, one by one, to a suicide cult, where they worshipped a guy they never met who had come back from the dead. And Charlie converted when he met a blond Australian girl who had just given birth to some other dude's baby.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

I fell asleep during the show, but can someone explain Charlie? In the sideways flashback he showed Desmond what was going on, but after Desmond got everyone back together he was back to being drugged out Charlie. What did I miss?

Charlie was briefly enlightened, but didn't get the full on view of things until Claire and the baby. If you noticed, there were several instances where people had strange feelings, but required further contact in order to fully "remember"

 

[Carver]

Let's keep this bad boy rolling...

MAJOR PLOTLINES ON LOST THAT TURNED OUT TO NOT BE SO IMPORTANT (if at all)

1. "Walt is really special"

2. "Sayid kills a bunch of people for Ben"

3. "Mr. Eko"

4. "People on the island can't have babies"

5. "Faraday"

6. "Eloise Hawking"

7. "Widmore v. Ben"

8. "NOT PENNY'S BOAT"

9. "You're a candidate"

10. "Jacob brought people to the island"

11. The Dahrma initiative

12. Jacob

13. MIB

14. The Numbers

15. The Button

16. Time Travel

17. Richard not aging

18. Sawyers Daughter

19. Jacks Son

20. The Bomb

21. The Others

22. Taller Ghost Walt

23. Room 23

24. The Statue

 

[Statorama]

After all, we don't see Faraday or Lapidus or Charlotte or Miles in the church at the end (or Anna Lucia or Nikki & Paulo or Eko or any number of other characters from the show.) Even though these were important characters to some of the viewers, they weren't really that important to the main cast of Losties apparantely.

Mr. Eko actor wanted 5X what he was offered to appear in the finale

 

[beer 30]

Let's keep this bad boy rolling... MAJOR PLOTLINES ON LOST THAT TURNED OUT TO NOT BE SO IMPORTANT (if at all)1. "Walt is really special"2. "Sayid kills a bunch of people for Ben"3. "Mr. Eko"4. "People on the island can't have babies"5. "Faraday"6. "Eloise Hawking"7. "Widmore v. Ben"8. "NOT PENNY'S BOAT"9. "You're a candidate"10. "Jacob brought people to the island"11. The Dahrma initiative 12. Jacob13. MIB14. The Numbers 15. The Button16. Time Travel17. Richard not aging18. Sawyers Daughter19. Jacks Son20. The Bomb21. The Others22. Taller Ghost Walt23. Room 2324. The Statue

Is there some way to incorporate the Ghost Whisperer "walk into the light" ending somewhere?

 

[packersfan]

After all, we don't see Faraday or Lapidus or Charlotte or Miles in the church at the end (or Anna Lucia or Nikki & Paulo or Eko or any number of other characters from the show.) Even though these were important characters to some of the viewers, they weren't really that important to the main cast of Losties apparantely.

Mr. Eko actor wanted 5X what he was offered to appear in the finale

Not really surprised. He hated being on the show so I'm not surprised he tried to get a king's ransom to return.On a much better note, I don't know if anyone has mentioned Jack turning Desmond's "see you in another life brother" around. I thought that was very cool.

 

[Limp Ditka]

So why didn't Ben go into the church?

 

[SmoovySmoov]

So why didn't Ben go into the church?

I think it's either:A) After killing A LOT of people, he (or another force who is in charge of matters such as these) felt that he wasn't ready to move on, and he still had some sort of penance to do before he could.orB) He would rather stay in the proverbially "happy ending" of that construct, that had him possibly being the father to Alex that he never was in real life.

 

[Jayrok]

Humor me for a minute. Could a case be made that exploding the bomb sank the island AND killed everyone on it and that season 6 was all limbo and purgatory on BOTH the island and in the flash sideways?

Both had themes of redemption, both had characters doing things that they wished they could do or filling roles that they wanted, both had the battle of faith vs science, etc.

If not, there are many things that don't add up in terms of timelines, who lives/dies, who gets off the island/who doesn't, etc.

IMO, Juliet saying that "it worked" could reflect all of them getting off the island by dying and getting back together after they had died.

Thought about this for a while, but if you re-watch Season 6 opener when she died (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbPfzT-ybMI), she is relaying the conversation she has with Sawyer at the vending machine. It appears that as she was dying, she was able to see that she would meet up with Sawyer again in the afterlife...

Great scene.

 

[Usual21]

Here is a post from another board that summarizes it pretty well for me:--------------------------------------It seems like a lot of people are confused about the ending, I was not, assuming I am correct about it, here is an easy explanation.Season 1 - They all crashed. All the characters we knew and loved the last 6 years DID NOT DIE HERE! I repeat, they did not die here. <a href="http://" target="_blank"></a> Season 2 - Stuff happenedSeason 3 - Stuff happenedSeason 4 - Stuff happenedSeason 5 - Stuff happenedAmongst this stuff, lots of people died!Season 6 - Let's ignore the alt. universe.More people died. At the end, the Hurley is the new Jacob, the new protector of the island. He may be there for thousands of years, but eventually he will die. Ben is his sidekick, the new Richard, he may be there for thousands of years, and eventually he will die. Desmond is with them, but Hurley will get him off the island, he is the new Jacob, he has powers. Eventually he will die.Jack died (with Vincent, Matthew Fox's dog in real life, laying next to him, so ****ing sad). Kate, Claire, Sawyer, Lapidus, Miles, and Richard all flew off the island. Let's assume they lived happily ever after, but eventually, they all died too. Everyone dies! That's life for ya, death and taxes are the only two sure things.Now this is where the opening of Season 6 starts, once everyone is dead. They are all in purgatory. It all begins in the plane because this is where the most important part of their lives began, where they met the most important people they would ever meet, Oceanic Flight 815. Problem though is, they are dead but not at peace. They all can't move on. They all miss each other. There are too many stones yet unturned. Too many sins not atoned for. Charlie tried to kill himself, but he couldn't die, he was already dead! When he saw this, he then had a flash of what meant most to him while he was alive . . . Claire. He opens the door for Desmond, and Desmond opened the door for everyone else. Every person had to realize what they all had been through, the giant adventure. They had to see all the sacrifices they made, all the things they did, the HELL they went through, and they had to see it together. Jack was just the last one to figure it out in the afterlife.Ben couldn't move on just yet. Having Hurley give him a thumbs up and Locke forgiving him wasn't enough. He killed his dad, he killed his daughter, he killed all of Dharmaville! He wasn't ready yet, he needed to atone.Everyone else though, they were sitting in the church, much like passengers in the plane, and the two most important people, Jack and Locke, were in the front row, on a flight to their ultimate peace.That was the tv show LOST! It was an adventure about a group of people who were alone, they had no one, they were dubbed a tremendous responsibility, and they were all LOST. In the end, after they saved the world, after they made sacrifices, they were all together in the end, no longer alone, no longer LOST.

post of the year.

 

[KGB]

So why didn't Ben go into the church?

He wasnt dead.

 

[El Floppo]

Extract from the NYTimes...

As explained by Jack’s (dead) father, and amplified by an exchange between Hurley and Ben, life had continued after Jack died on the island, stabbed by the monster inhabiting Locke’s body. The survivors on the Ajira plane, including Kate, Claire and Sawyer, had presumably made it to safety (Kate for the second time), while Hurley and Ben had remained as the island’s new protectors. Now, beyond some future expiration date, they had all died and gathered because, as Christian Shephard told Jack: “This is the place that you all made together so that you could find one another. The most important part of your life was the time that you spent with these people.”So that was the answer: the island was college, or home, or Outward Bound. The sideways reality was the former passengers of Oceanic 815, plus selected guests like Desmond and Penny, gathering for a self-affirming reunion before heading off into whatever sort of afterlife the swelling white light symbolized. (The producers hedged their bets by placing symbols of various religions inside the church.)

 

[pollardsvision]

Let's keep this bad boy rolling... MAJOR PLOTLINES ON LOST THAT TURNED OUT TO NOT BE SO IMPORTANT (if at all)1. "Walt is really special"2. "Sayid kills a bunch of people for Ben"3. "Mr. Eko"4. "People on the island can't have babies"5. "Faraday"6. "Eloise Hawking"7. "Widmore v. Ben"8. "NOT PENNY'S BOAT"9. "You're a candidate"10. "Jacob brought people to the island"11. The Dahrma initiative 12. Jacob13. MIB14. The Numbers 15. The Button16. Time Travel17. Richard not aging18. Sawyers Daughter19. Jacks Son20. The Bomb21. The Others22. Taller Ghost Walt23. Room 2324. The Statue

-The tail section survivors-Aaron being a devil child-Oceanic 6 needs to lie

 

[The Dude]

I wrote earlier that I didn't think the final confrontation was epic worthy - a fist fight between good and evil? One that the good guy was losing and had to be saved?

I would have dug a lot more:

At the point where Des removes the cork, Jack turns around and it's the real MIB (not the fake Locke) behind him. Jack clocks him. MIB sees his reflection and realizes something is wrong. Jack reveals that he knew all along what would happen whne the cork was pulled. MIB's power - even though dark - was tied to the light - and extinguishing the light makes MIB mortal.

Jack than says "I found my loophole, b***h."

MIB is upright, Jack clocks him "this is for Juliet"

Again - this is for Jin and Sun"

Again - "this is for John Locke"

And with the final blow - this is for being an a**hole"

I'm kidding about the profanity - and in the end it's a fistfight - but it's one where Jack tunred the tables on the stronger opponent and isn't saved by the girl.

 

[El Floppo]

So why didn't Ben go into the church?

He wasnt dead.

Wasn't out of limbo/in a place where he had resolution to move on.

 

[menobrown]

I had one question that's been bothering me. So it appears when they set of the Nuke that's what started the sideways reality. So if they had not set off the Nuke would everyone have just died on the island and stayed dead on the Island? Juliet said it worked so it had to do something, right? Just curious.

 

[KGB]

So why didn't Ben go into the church?

He wasnt dead.

Wasn't out of limbo/in a place where he had resolution to move on.

Sure that too. why not?

 

[Dr. No]

-The tail section survivors except Bernard, who was the most underrated character and underutilized in the history of television.

fixed

 

[packersfan]

I wrote earlier that I didn't think the final confrontation was epic worthy - a fist fight between good and evil? One that the good guy was losing and had to be saved?

That tied in perfectly in my opinion with the preeminent theme about how all of the survivors needed one another. And, of course, Jack needed Kate so it fit in even more strongly having her be the one to save him.

 

[Carver]

MAJOR PLOTLINES ON LOST THAT TURNED OUT TO NOT BE SO IMPORTANT (if at all)1. "Walt is really special"2. "Sayid kills a bunch of people for Ben"3. "Mr. Eko"4. "People on the island can't have babies"5. "Faraday"6. "Eloise Hawking"7. "Widmore v. Ben"8. "NOT PENNY'S BOAT"9. "You're a candidate"10. "Jacob brought people to the island"11. The Dahrma initiative 12. Jacob13. MIB14. The Numbers 15. The Button16. Time Travel17. Richard not aging18. Sawyers Daughter19. Jacks Son20. The Bomb21. The Others22. Taller Ghost Walt23. Room 2324. The Statue25. The tail section survivors26. Aaron being a devil child27. Oceanic 6 needs to lie