Loco Barlow
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'LOST' is like a really, really bad choose your own adventure book. The show blows.
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**** OFFICIAL **** LOST - The TV Series (2 Viewers)
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GregStarling
Footballguy
everyone keeps saying next week's show looks awesome. my dvr cut out before next weeks preview was complete. could someone please fill me in.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Further proof that even the plane was part of the Dharma plan???I think it's highly likely that the pregnancy test wasn't on the plane. Why else would the writers have Kate ask "who brings a pregnancy test on a plane?"The fact that a medical supply came from Sawyer's stash that was not on the plane could mean a lot of different things.Tonight's Sawyer book: Judy Bloom 'Are you there God, It's me, Margaret.
They also made sure to show you Sun's pregnancy test was from the Widmore Labs. IIRC, there was a Widmore Construction sign in a Charlie flashback. :rubschin:
Blick
Footballguy
Is it possible that the pregnacy test was taken from the hatch?Further proof that even the plane was part of the Dharma plan???I think it's highly likely that the pregnancy test wasn't on the plane. Why else would the writers have Kate ask "who brings a pregnancy test on a plane?"The fact that a medical supply came from Sawyer's stash that was not on the plane could mean a lot of different things.Tonight's Sawyer book: Judy Bloom 'Are you there God, It's me, Margaret.
They also made sure to show you Sun's pregnancy test was from the Widmore Labs. IIRC, there was a Widmore Construction sign in a Charlie flashback. :rubschin:
Jaysus
Good times!
Or, you know - Sun took it on the plane, and that is how she knew it would be with the medical supplies in the first place.Kate asked that question for a reason... that wasn't random dialoge.Is it possible that the pregnacy test was taken from the hatch?Further proof that even the plane was part of the Dharma plan???I think it's highly likely that the pregnancy test wasn't on the plane. Why else would the writers have Kate ask "who brings a pregnancy test on a plane?"The fact that a medical supply came from Sawyer's stash that was not on the plane could mean a lot of different things.Tonight's Sawyer book: Judy Bloom 'Are you there God, It's me, Margaret.
They also made sure to show you Sun's pregnancy test was from the Widmore Labs. IIRC, there was a Widmore Construction sign in a Charlie flashback. :rubschin:
texasyankee
Footballguy
We get it. You dont like the show. Some of us do, that's why we discuss it here. Move along please.
If I'm the others, and having my people infiltrate a camp of plane crash victims, I'm sure as hell setting up a plausable story on how my spy got there. Possibilities:
1. Gale was telling the truth and the others are going to kidnap Sayid, Charlie, Anna and trade them for Gale.
2. Others set up ballon crash site to make gale's story believable knowing its ridiculous to send a spy out with a verifiable cover story, and not having something in place to make his story seem true.
3. Gale is another victim, he did crash on a ballon, and the others either left his crash site intact, or cleared it away depending on their motives towards gale...
1. Gale was telling the truth and the others are going to kidnap Sayid, Charlie, Anna and trade them for Gale.
2. Others set up ballon crash site to make gale's story believable knowing its ridiculous to send a spy out with a verifiable cover story, and not having something in place to make his story seem true.
3. Gale is another victim, he did crash on a ballon, and the others either left his crash site intact, or cleared it away depending on their motives towards gale...
Or, you know - Sun took it on the plane, and that is how she knew it would be with the medical supplies in the first place.Kate asked that question for a reason... that wasn't random dialoge.Is it possible that the pregnacy test was taken from the hatch?Further proof that even the plane was part of the Dharma plan???I think it's highly likely that the pregnancy test wasn't on the plane. Why else would the writers have Kate ask "who brings a pregnancy test on a plane?"The fact that a medical supply came from Sawyer's stash that was not on the plane could mean a lot of different things.Tonight's Sawyer book: Judy Bloom 'Are you there God, It's me, Margaret.
They also made sure to show you Sun's pregnancy test was from the Widmore Labs. IIRC, there was a Widmore Construction sign in a Charlie flashback. :rubschin:
That was my first thought. Not sure why she would have had it after she found out that Jin could not get her pregnant, but maybe she had it in her purse because that Doctor's visit was right before they got on the plane. It probably wasn't long after her discussion with the Hotel owner's son that he helped her with the play to go to America.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Exactly. It as far as I can tell, that was the only reason for that scene was to say that line. Why else would Sun need to go get Kate? To hold the test whilst she pissed on it? That whole scene was a vehicle to get that line out.Or, you know - Sun took it on the plane, and that is how she knew it would be with the medical supplies in the first place.Kate asked that question for a reason... that wasn't random dialoge.Is it possible that the pregnacy test was taken from the hatch?Further proof that even the plane was part of the Dharma plan???I think it's highly likely that the pregnancy test wasn't on the plane. Why else would the writers have Kate ask "who brings a pregnancy test on a plane?"The fact that a medical supply came from Sawyer's stash that was not on the plane could mean a lot of different things.Tonight's Sawyer book: Judy Bloom 'Are you there God, It's me, Margaret.
They also made sure to show you Sun's pregnancy test was from the Widmore Labs. IIRC, there was a Widmore Construction sign in a Charlie flashback. :rubschin:
I don't think I will ever understand the mentality of people like that. What a boring existence it must be to watch a bunch of people enjoy something and have to jump into the discussion just so people notice you.I can just imagine Loco as a kid standing on the side of the playground while everyone is playing basketball only to jump in the game, kick the ball away and walk away saying "basketball sucks." Just plain sad.
Loco Barlow
Footballguy
Yes, Capella is Einstein reincarnated. Didn't all of you know?
GregStarling
Footballguy
anyone?
Exactly. It as far as I can tell, that was the only reason for that scene was to say that line. Why else would Sun need to go get Kate? To hold the test whilst she pissed on it? That whole scene was a vehicle to get that line out.Or, you know - Sun took it on the plane, and that is how she knew it would be with the medical supplies in the first place.Kate asked that question for a reason... that wasn't random dialoge.Is it possible that the pregnacy test was taken from the hatch?Further proof that even the plane was part of the Dharma plan???I think it's highly likely that the pregnancy test wasn't on the plane. Why else would the writers have Kate ask "who brings a pregnancy test on a plane?"The fact that a medical supply came from Sawyer's stash that was not on the plane could mean a lot of different things.Tonight's Sawyer book: Judy Bloom 'Are you there God, It's me, Margaret.
They also made sure to show you Sun's pregnancy test was from the Widmore Labs. IIRC, there was a Widmore Construction sign in a Charlie flashback. :rubschin:
You guys are both correct, when there is dialogue like that it is for a reason. Think back to a few scenes like:1. Rose telling Jack her husband is alive. At first it seemed like Rose was just crazy/an eternal optimist, but that scene was basically a clue that the tailies were alive.
2. Sawyer talking to Michael after the shark saying that the Other's boat was just an island hopping boat. This hasn't completely been told yet, but to me this line basically cemented to me that the Others hadn't crashed on the island. If they had, they wouldn't have a small boat like that to travel around the island.
3. Hurley telling Libby that he recognizes her from before and her coming back with that lame he stepped on her foot (impossible with him in the front and her in the back). We haven't seen the complete progression, but that one line was definitely setting something up that I am sure we will see when we go back in Hurley/Libby's back story.
I am sure there are others, but obvious lines like that tend to have a purpose, especially since Sun didn't really say anything back.
They showed Sayid/AL/Charlie looking up after AL says why isn't it raining here. They kind of imply that the balloon is there on top of them, thus blocking the rain.I don't recall any other give it away scenes, but they said that 5(?) things will happen that will do something big. I can't recall the exact words. I am going to have to rewatch that again. I set my DVR to record till 10:06 just in case.anyone?
Wingnut
Footballguy
First, theres some sort of weird trandmission/static coming over the speakers in the hatch...Then it says 5 events will happen on the island....each one more shocking....and unimaginable...than ever before...It shows Jack throwing Gale up against a wall....Anna Lucia and Charlie looking up into a tree and seeing the "balloon"...Sayid in the hatch pointing the gun at someone and saying "step back right now"...and the hatch closing (big metal doors lowering), trapping Locke inside as he tries uncuccessfully to slide underneath Indiana Jones style before the bottom of the door hits the ground...then Sayids voice saying "What happened?"anyone?
GIDDYUP!
fatguyinalittlecoat
Footballguy
Not if she bought it in Australia.
fatguyinalittlecoat
Footballguy
All that duty-free alcohol probably results in a lot of pregnancies.
Loco Barlow
Footballguy
Thanks, I completely spaced on the English.Based on Misfit's comments, I completely retract my thought, I don't think Sun brought it on the plane.By the way, I know it was mentioned above about the Widmore Labratories that connects with the Widmore Construction we saw earlier in February. I found this:
I definitely think this Widmore may be the company that built all the bunkers and that maybe Gale is connected to them. That may show that the pregnancy kit was already on the island and maybe Sawyer did get it from the medical hatch or that the plane was tampered with by the Others. Heck, maybe Sawyer decide to align himself with the Others.
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The problem is that the island has had hallucinations popping up everywhere. Polar bears. That boy blinking in and out. Words on the computer. Just because we even see the remains of a balloon doesn't mean it exists. The viewer really should not even assume that all the charcters exist. Or even the island. At this point, the viewers pretty much have to be told what is real and what is not. So I guess its kinda boring right now because there is nothing to figure out. Just waiting.
Sack-Religious.
Footballguy
I've had thoughts like this - But last season in both instances I recall seeing a polar bear, more than one person witnessed it. Walt was hiding in one of those vine trees while a Polar bear was trying to get in there to get him. Michael and Locke were both there and saw it happen and saved Walt. The other polar bear was shot and killed by Sawyer in front of other people.Jack seeing his father or Shannon seeing Walt on her own, I can chalk up to possible hallucinations, but when there's tangible physical evidence of the animal ie. broken branches, a dead polar bear with bullet holes in it that other people see, I tend to believe that there are actual polar bears on the island. Even Rousseau said something to the effect of "If we're lucky it's just a bear" to Sayid in the episode where she caught him.
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Not sure if I would go that far. I do think that there are visions/hallucinations, but I don't think that means that characters do not exist. I don't think we know the extent of it, but I think the smoke monster is connected and that the visions could be the result of what someone is thinking about (Walt's Polar Bear) or wants to see (Kate's horse & Michael's computer discussion). Since we have seen that the smoke monster read Eko's mind, it isn't out of the realm of possibilities that it (or something like it) read Kate's mind and took the shape of that horse or put the IM with Walt into Michael's mind.
I may agree on the polar bear based on Rousseau's comment, but what about Kate's horse? Sawyer saw it as well, but it wasn't a random horse, wasn't it the exact same horse that we saw in her back story?I am going to have to find my earlier post where I tried to list all of these types of events and keep it up to date.
I think that we are 100% sure that there is an ability to read minds based on the fact that we saw pictures of Eko's life inside of the smoke monster while it was checking him out. Beyond reading minds you get into projecting thoughts and images.
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texasyankee
Footballguy
Now that is funny
Sabertooth
Footballguy
What the hell happened to Michael? Haven't seen him in a while.
All I read (on spoilerfix.com) was that:What happened to Michael, who did he see, who was communicating with Michael, and how does Michael's story resolve itself is going to be a major concern of the last third of the season.
I didn't put it in white, because it only says that he will be back in the last 3rd of the season, which based on last night being episode 16 is episodes 17-24.
slinky
Footballguy
Just a thought....Gale's an other...he was sent in to infiltrate the survivors camp, which he has accomplished. What if he was sent to regain control of the bunker? He's been playing Jack and Locke for fools and turning them against one another. So what if next week he finds the chance to get the upper hand on one of them and seals off the bunker (preview of the barriers coming down in next week's episode)? Locke is trapped inside with him, while everyone else is outside with no way of getting in.First, theres some sort of weird trandmission/static coming over the speakers in the hatch...Then it says 5 events will happen on the island....each one more shocking....and unimaginable...than ever before...It shows Jack throwing Gale up against a wall....Anna Lucia and Charlie looking up into a tree and seeing the "balloon"...Sayid in the hatch pointing the gun at someone and saying "step back right now"...and the hatch closing (big metal doors lowering), trapping Locke inside as he tries uncuccessfully to slide underneath Indiana Jones style before the bottom of the door hits the ground...then Sayids voice saying "What happened?"anyone?
GIDDYUP!
I remember a clip of Gale in the air ducts crawling around. Did anyone else remember this clip? I'm thinking this was part of the opportunity he was looking for to gain control over the survivors. So he escaped from the room and took control of the bunker?
Loan Sharks
Not a Wolf
Where the hell is Desmond?
People have being seeing all kinds of weird things on the island. That smoke was one huge projection/hallucination machine. A logical progression (that these things could be foreshadowing) is to say that the BIG secret of the island is that a person/people/the island itself is a hallucination.
Brewdude
Footballguy
He grabbed a gun and went after the others after that message to him on the computer. The group went looking for him and that's when the line was drawn.It's only been a couple days in island time, but I am surprised the writers will completely drop huge pieces out of the story for several episodes at a time:
- Walt being taken
- Desmond running off
- The Taillies children being taken
- The brunnett disappearing on the walk to the original camp
- Michael disappearing
Wouldn't each of these be a fairly signficant event leading to several rescue attempt or at least dominate discussions?
The group doesn't seem to have a goal right now and I'd damn sure make it my goal to answer the above. No way would people be sitting around reading a book with these events happening.
The funny thing is that is one of the reasons that I don't think Gale is an Other. He said that Anna didn't tell them about the map because they were fighting with each other. Kind of silly to tell them that because then it makes Jack and Locke realize that they are quarrelling with the wrong people. Jack's look at the end of the episode reminded me of Charlie's look when Sayid asked him if he forgot that the Others hung him and Charlie seemed to have the thought of WTF am I worried about humiliating Locke for and beating up Sun when the Others tried to kill me.Also, a thought about the barriers coming down. Even if Gale isn't an Other, it seems logical to me that he would try to escape given the chance.
Brewdude
Footballguy
To draw an analogy...All the children in your neighborhood are kidnapped and some adults are taken. You have been threatened by a group that tells you to not cross the street and don't worry about the kids. The group has also killed a couple adults.
You still get together for BBQs with your neighbors and everyone continues to plant their garden, mow their lawn, go work, etc. You just never worry about the kids or cross the street to see what's going on.
This just wouldn't happen. The writers need to start putting a comment or two in the script about what's going on. Some plan would be discussed. Perhaps not executed yet, but at least discussed.
saintfool
Dead sexy
well, they're definitely not the muhjahedeen or AQ but whatever. i think a lot of the planning was thwarted by sawyer's confiscating the weapons et al from the bunker. you can't confront the others, much less the other random things in the jungle, without weapons. they con't go on the offensive without them. yes, charlie had a pistol but that seems to be the only weapon that isn't in sawyer's mitts.
sawyer isn't about to be appointed head chief, much less he isn't jockeying for that position. so everything now assumes a reactive posture.
Dr. van Nostrand
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Ana asked wherer Cindy was right after she disappeared. That is why Ana was so paranoid and shot the first thing that moved, Shannon.
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apalmer
Footballguy
Or maybe like Libby asking Hurley, "Do the washer and dryer look newer than everything else?" to poke fun at the internet geeks. Could just as easily have been a pre-emptive shot at the question they knew would come.Exactly. It as far as I can tell, that was the only reason for that scene was to say that line. Why else would Sun need to go get Kate? To hold the test whilst she pissed on it? That whole scene was a vehicle to get that line out.Or, you know - Sun took it on the plane, and that is how she knew it would be with the medical supplies in the first place.Kate asked that question for a reason... that wasn't random dialoge.Is it possible that the pregnacy test was taken from the hatch?Further proof that even the plane was part of the Dharma plan???I think it's highly likely that the pregnancy test wasn't on the plane. Why else would the writers have Kate ask "who brings a pregnancy test on a plane?"The fact that a medical supply came from Sawyer's stash that was not on the plane could mean a lot of different things.Tonight's Sawyer book: Judy Bloom 'Are you there God, It's me, Margaret.
They also made sure to show you Sun's pregnancy test was from the Widmore Labs. IIRC, there was a Widmore Construction sign in a Charlie flashback. :rubschin:
1. Rose telling Jack her husband is alive. At first it seemed like Rose was just crazy/an eternal optimist, but that scene was basically a clue that the tailies were alive.
2. Sawyer talking to Michael after the shark saying that the Other's boat was just an island hopping boat. This hasn't completely been told yet, but to me this line basically cemented to me that the Others hadn't crashed on the island. If they had, they wouldn't have a small boat like that to travel around the island.
3. Hurley telling Libby that he recognizes her from before and her coming back with that lame he stepped on her foot (impossible with him in the front and her in the back). We haven't seen the complete progression, but that one line was definitely setting something up that I am sure we will see when we go back in Hurley/Libby's back story.
I am sure there are others, but obvious lines like that tend to have a purpose, especially since Sun didn't really say anything back.
