I want a RB, but not a fan of this list.Miami has reached out to Gerhart, Tate, and Donald Brown...also trying to grab James Jones who I thought was under contract but maybe not.
I want a RB, but not a fan of this list.Miami has reached out to Gerhart, Tate, and Donald Brown...also trying to grab James Jones who I thought was under contract but maybe not.
What's not to like about Tate? Major upgrade over Danny Thomas IMO.I want a RB, but not a fan of this list.Miami has reached out to Gerhart, Tate, and Donald Brown...also trying to grab James Jones who I thought was under contract but maybe not.
Maybe?MOP, I do not get the impression that Soliai really wanted to come back. Particularly when reading his farewell note to fans and the "previous organization". Now, maybe that is because of the offer the Dolphins put his way...maybe he doesn't like Philbin/Ross
I'm not looking for a back to upgrade over Thomas, we need one who will put him and Miller on the bench. Always been a huge MJD fan, would love to see him there. Sproles, Moreno, and Pierre Thomas are also good options.What's not to like about Tate? Major upgrade over Danny Thomas IMO. Other guys who can be had for cheap it would seem...Samuels-CB, MJD/Sproles, Beason-LB, Owen Daniels to pair with Clay causing all kinds of headaches until he gets hurt. I would like Miami to take a good hard long look a those guys right now.I want a RB, but not a fan of this list.Miami has reached out to Gerhart, Tate, and Donald Brown...also trying to grab James Jones who I thought was under contract but maybe not.
Your list is better, just relaying the Twitter info...Miami actually inquired about those names I posted. I would like them to bring in MJD and Pierre Thomas, that would send Danny out of here and Lamar Miller to special teams and the bench for a while, maybe a few carries here and there.I'm not looking for a back to upgrade over Thomas, we need one who will put him and Miller on the bench. Always been a huge MJD fan, would love to see him there. Sproles, Moreno, and Pierre Thomas are also good options.What's not to like about Tate? Major upgrade over Danny Thomas IMO. Other guys who can be had for cheap it would seem...Samuels-CB, MJD/Sproles, Beason-LB, Owen Daniels to pair with Clay causing all kinds of headaches until he gets hurt. I would like Miami to take a good hard long look a those guys right now.I want a RB, but not a fan of this list.Miami has reached out to Gerhart, Tate, and Donald Brown...also trying to grab James Jones who I thought was under contract but maybe not.
Jordan has a stupid combo of get off, length and bend (the guy is Gumby-esque).Revis and Grimes would be downright nasty.
I think the Dolphins will go hard after Joseph from the Giants. So Joseph, and Albert will be two very big signings.....if they grab Revis huge win in free agency.
Draft will be so critical this year. And Dion Jordan must....must be an every down player in 2014. Othewise that was a wasted #3 overall and the ultimate slap in the face on the way out by Ireland. I really would love to know the conversations that were taking place during last years draft between Coyle, Philbin and Ireland when they moved up to grab Jordan. I mean seriously......what was the thinking. I really hope he was just too dinged up last year to play more often. I also understand he is a rookie....and sometimes it does take a couple of years for DE to develop. No question a lot of great ones blossomed in year 2 or 3...plenty of examples.
Anyway I still think Jordan can be a beast of a player. He is ridiculous off the line, a physical marvel. Question is does he have the most improtant thing a DE needs? A high motor. If you can take Jason Taylors motor (another way of saying heart) and insert it in Jordan......he would be a legendary pass rusher. taylor has spoken about how Jordan physically is even better than he ever was.
So it really comes down to his motor and IQ.
Time will tell and year two will be a huge indication if we wasted another high draft pick.
2004 - Ronnie Brown
2008 - Jake Long
God I hope he pans out.
I personally think Atlanta overpaid dramatically. 5 years $33M for a 30 year old player. $14 Mil guaranteed. Thats a big contract for a 30 year old. I dont think Paul Soliai vs Earl Mitchell had anything to do with the reason that the Texans are picking 1st, and we went 8-8, and just because Atlanta paid him like a 25 year old elite NT does not mean he is one. He was great here, but he is 30, and thats a boatload of money.Love the Mitchell signing. He is 26. We just got younger, and more affordable and from what I read, we did it without sacrificing much talent at the nose. Seems like a very solid signing, and decision to let Starks/Soliai walk. I am sure it will somehow blow up in our faces.
Would have really preferred the younger Monroe over the older Albert for so much less money, but maybe the Fins knew Monroe was not leaving Baltimore and didnt want to be used as leverage once again.
So far, Delmas, Albert, Mitchell...good signings at need positions. Need to find some guards and a RT now.I really don't want to be the Debbie Downer here but Soliai to Mitchell is a major downgrade IMO. And the ratings would prove it as well. Mitchell is very avg at best. There is a reason Houston is picking 1st and Miami despite internal turmoil managed to go 8-8. There's a reason Atlanta scooped him up for 5 years and paid him $11M this year, I'm happy for Paul, not so happy for Miami.But, putting aside our complaints, it seems like these are good moves given the option set.
We have to sign Albert, I understand that, needed a Safety and didn't have to pay much to get him but let's not kid ourselves here...Miami is a gigantic hole up the middle right now. That's why I feel they should try to make a bookend tandem at Corner since they suxor right now down the middle(be good at something). They want to send Ellerbee to the OLB position so Misi, Wheeler, and Ellerbee will all be OLB and they are talking this kid from Alabama at 1.18, another huge mistake IMO when they could grab a terrific RT in the 18 range where they are picking.
Miami lost games in the 4th Q last year yes/no? If you agree with me on that then you know we need to be able to run the football and gain 1st downs on short 3rd yardage situations where we stunk last year. We lost to Buffalo, Baltimore, Carolina...those 3 games were the difference between 8-8 and 11-5, all 3 of them have the same ending and theme. Just tell me I'm wrong and I was watching different games than you all did, I can accept that I'm getting old
What have we done to address that? not much but where we had some strength on defense we are letting that walk out the door. I would have been more excited about Linval Joseph but he went to Minnesota. He received 5 yr/$31.5M from the Vikes...we paid Soliai $6M a year when he was here, now we are paying $4m a season to a subpar player that likely won't make much impact here. We'll see if I am wrong.
How do you not step in and get him? Maybe they tried. Miami is not the place yet you go to win Super Bowls. Lovie Smith can at least say he got there. Give up Revis, take Verner, save $10M, Bucs putting on a clinic right now.Verner takes $6mm a year from Tampa, WOW!
MOP is right yet again, they should have gotten this guy for sure.
I don't give a ####, just get him the Eff out of here!!! Guy almost destroyed the franchise, I understand it was a 2 way street and he was a victim but the Miami Dolphins couldn't get him out of here soon enough. 1st day and he was gone.Just got an alert that we traded Jonathan Martin to San Fran for conditional picks. Thats good work by Hickey. No matter what the picks are.
ETA:
49ers acquired OT Jonathan Martin from the Dolphins for a conditional draft pick.
The conditional pick is almost certainly a day-three selection. It's possible the Dolphins could end up with no compensation if Martin doesn't make the 49ers' 53-man roster, but that's just speculation. Martin had been on a leave of absence from the Dolphins since Week 9. A 2012 second-rounder, Martin hasn't looked like he can cut it at the NFL level, but was miscast as a left tackle last season. Reuniting with college coach Jim Harbaugh should be a boon for his confidence, and perhaps his game. He'll fight for swing-tackle duties in camp.
Could go either way. I despise him as much as anybody, but his poor play may have been at least partially attributable to the fact that he was uncomfortable in the locker room. If the SF locker room is a very different environment, maybe they will get the best out of him. I tend to agree that the talent just isnt there, and that the mental weakness just does not translate to this game, but whatever...he is gone, and this will be the last post I make about him Good riddance.I don't give a ####, just get him the Eff out of here!!! Guy almost destroyed the franchise, I understand it was a 2 way street and he was a victim but the Miami Dolphins couldn't get him out of here soon enough. 1st day and he was gone.Just got an alert that we traded Jonathan Martin to San Fran for conditional picks. Thats good work by Hickey. No matter what the picks are.
ETA:
49ers acquired OT Jonathan Martin from the Dolphins for a conditional draft pick.
The conditional pick is almost certainly a day-three selection. It's possible the Dolphins could end up with no compensation if Martin doesn't make the 49ers' 53-man roster, but that's just speculation. Martin had been on a leave of absence from the Dolphins since Week 9. A 2012 second-rounder, Martin hasn't looked like he can cut it at the NFL level, but was miscast as a left tackle last season. Reuniting with college coach Jim Harbaugh should be a boon for his confidence, and perhaps his game. He'll fight for swing-tackle duties in camp.
Agree with Slap, Niners collecting a lot of draft busts at the moment. I cannot imagine Martin in that locker room, doubt a lot of players run to his aid. He will get the cold shoulder IMO, however Harbaugh was his coach, maybe players will be accepting of him. I doubt he even makes the team.
I like Pierre Thomas at an affordable price as much as MJD. Seems more durable, very well rounded, and can play 3 downs if needed. I assume Tate will be expensive, but MJD and PT may be very good free agent values. RB market is a buyers market right now.Sign Jimmy Graham to a big offer sheet........DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wait we can't....he was franchise tagged.....sigh.
I would also welcome MJD in a heartbeat....and we can also draft another young RB....have Lamar Miller in the fold and dump Daniel Thomas and his horrible...horrible game.
Tate is intriguing. He is a tough between the tackles bowling ball as well with far less miles than MJD.
Sign Jimmy Graham to a big offer sheet........DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wait we can't....he was franchise tagged.....sigh.
I would also welcome MJD in a heartbeat....and we can also draft another young RB....have Lamar Miller in the fold and dump Daniel Thomas and his horrible...horrible game.
Tate is intriguing. He is a tough between the tackles bowling ball as well with far less miles than MJD.
I think Miami can bring in a couple of RBs. I like MJD and he is used to Florida weather, he might like it here. I think he played college ball in SoCal IIRC. I think Miami should think about 2 RBs on the cheap, make Miller earn his playing time and dump Thomas, agree 100% there Todem.I like Pierre Thomas at an affordable price as much as MJD. Seems more durable, very well rounded, and can play 3 downs if needed. I assume Tate will be expensive, but MJD and PT may be very good free agent values. RB market is a buyers market right now.Sign Jimmy Graham to a big offer sheet........DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wait we can't....he was franchise tagged.....sigh.
I would also welcome MJD in a heartbeat....and we can also draft another young RB....have Lamar Miller in the fold and dump Daniel Thomas and his horrible...horrible game.
Tate is intriguing. He is a tough between the tackles bowling ball as well with far less miles than MJD.
I think our new assistant OC comes from Houston if I am not mistaken. He should know all there is to know about Ben Tate. He looked good when he played, but he was hurt a lot for a backup RB.Sign Jimmy Graham to a big offer sheet........DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wait we can't....he was franchise tagged.....sigh.
I would also welcome MJD in a heartbeat....and we can also draft another young RB....have Lamar Miller in the fold and dump Daniel Thomas and his horrible...horrible game.
Tate is intriguing. He is a tough between the tackles bowling ball as well with far less miles than MJD.I think Miami can bring in a couple of RBs. I like MJD and he is used to Florida weather, he might like it here. I think he played college ball in SoCal IIRC. I think Miami should think about 2 RBs on the cheap, make Miller earn his playing time and dump Thomas, agree 100% there Todem.I like Pierre Thomas at an affordable price as much as MJD. Seems more durable, very well rounded, and can play 3 downs if needed. I assume Tate will be expensive, but MJD and PT may be very good free agent values. RB market is a buyers market right now.Sign Jimmy Graham to a big offer sheet........DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wait we can't....he was franchise tagged.....sigh.
I would also welcome MJD in a heartbeat....and we can also draft another young RB....have Lamar Miller in the fold and dump Daniel Thomas and his horrible...horrible game.
Tate is intriguing. He is a tough between the tackles bowling ball as well with far less miles than MJD.
Tate could be expensive Chuck but judging by the market it doesn't look good for RBs. We need a tough inside runner who can help close games out when we have a lead...we don't have that guy right now. I think they need to have a guy they can give it to 14-16 time a game that has some speed and then another 10-12 carries a game for a power runner who can close games out.
MJD/Thomas would be a nice 1-2 punch with Miller in the cuts as well.
The TE Miami should sign on the cheap is Owen Daniels to pair with Clay and that would give Miami all kinds of fun along the seams. I think Thill is better at throwing the inside and slant routes right now over the fly pet terns along the sidelines, think we can all agree on that. He can cut up defenses underneath and then maybe get lucky by lulling the defenses into thinking he won't go there. He has the arm to do it, he needs to work on his timing and pocket presence.
I like both Tackles from Tennessee. The guy who was the lead writer for the now defunct pro Football Weekly will be releasing a pretty in depth scouting report for the draft later this month. I am going to buy it, cost is around $20 which is a little high but his information is great plus the book is something you can shelve and look back at years down the road to compare.I'd love CJ2K and the money is certainly there....
The Donald Brown to SD has me thinking about Ryan Mathews future there.
Both backs are, I believe, straigh up stud RB talents. As are Mason and Hyde in the draft. But I think we should spend the draft looking at OL and LB. Pick up that guard out of UCLA in the first and grab Borland in the second or third.
Somebody pinch me. MOP with a POSITIVE Dolphins' opinion??Anyone else want to give Hickey a solid "B" right now as he did address the need with Albert. BTW, Albert's deal is really 3yr/$25M, I can live with that as long as he plays a solid 14 games a season along the way. That was pretty good and we have 3-4 drafts between now and the time Albert turns 32 to find his long term replacement. I am warming up to Albert and giving Thill time to find Wallace.
The Safety and DT we got are OK, nothing special but it fills a need and allows us to have some wiggle on draft day.
If Hickey can go bargain hunting and get a couple more OL like maybe Davin Joseph for the right price or short term, also find a RB or even 2 to push Miller and Thomas to the bench, maybe find another weapon for Tannehill like Owen Daniels for a wicked little 1-2 punch with Clay cutting up the interior of defenses. I can see the light at the end of the tunnel.
1st round-ILB form Alabama maybe, perhaps a strong RT prospect, either would work great. Tannehll needs time and bookend Tackles would go a long way.
I'm starting to sound like a Phinsfan again, someone kick me please.
Oh and Ross deserves the tax breaks if he spends the $400M from his pockets. I'll rail on Braman(huge opposition) is he tries to create trouble for Ross. Every other person who does this gets big tax breaks and as long as the taxpayers are not footing the bill for stadium renovations, let the man have his tax breaks.
We're not out of the woods just yet but things look good so far. I like what Hickey is doing so far.
Being a South Carolina season ticket holder, I sadly am well aware of how good those UT tackles are. The LT(Richardson?) has a promising future. Despite that, Clowney had pretty good games against them.I like both Tackles from Tennessee. The guy who was the lead writer for the now defunct pro Football Weekly will be releasing a pretty in depth scouting report for the draft later this month. I am going to buy it, cost is around $20 which is a little high but his information is great plus the book is something you can shelve and look back at years down the road to compare.I'd love CJ2K and the money is certainly there....
The Donald Brown to SD has me thinking about Ryan Mathews future there.
Both backs are, I believe, straigh up stud RB talents. As are Mason and Hyde in the draft. But I think we should spend the draft looking at OL and LB. Pick up that guard out of UCLA in the first and grab Borland in the second or third.
Yeah, about that Starks deal:Somebody pinch me. MOP with a POSITIVE Dolphins' opinion??Anyone else want to give Hickey a solid "B" right now as he did address the need with Albert. BTW, Albert's deal is really 3yr/$25M, I can live with that as long as he plays a solid 14 games a season along the way. That was pretty good and we have 3-4 drafts between now and the time Albert turns 32 to find his long term replacement. I am warming up to Albert and giving Thill time to find Wallace.
The Safety and DT we got are OK, nothing special but it fills a need and allows us to have some wiggle on draft day.
If Hickey can go bargain hunting and get a couple more OL like maybe Davin Joseph for the right price or short term, also find a RB or even 2 to push Miller and Thomas to the bench, maybe find another weapon for Tannehill like Owen Daniels for a wicked little 1-2 punch with Clay cutting up the interior of defenses. I can see the light at the end of the tunnel.
1st round-ILB form Alabama maybe, perhaps a strong RT prospect, either would work great. Tannehll needs time and bookend Tackles would go a long way.
I'm starting to sound like a Phinsfan again, someone kick me please.
Oh and Ross deserves the tax breaks if he spends the $400M from his pockets. I'll rail on Braman(huge opposition) is he tries to create trouble for Ross. Every other person who does this gets big tax breaks and as long as the taxpayers are not footing the bill for stadium renovations, let the man have his tax breaks.
We're not out of the woods just yet but things look good so far. I like what Hickey is doing so far.
I totally agree though. Randy Starks coming back at 2/12 turned me from "Well he's doing ok" to "Hmm.. maybe this guy knows what's going on."
Certainly we still have a bit of a mess in the LBs after last year's FA but as you pointed out, the signings so far give us a lot of flexibility in the rest of FA and the draft. And now that the initial wave is over, we should be able to get some bargains out there with all our cap space.
So $6M only counting about $3M against the cap. I would like to see more from Tannehill but I think they are paving the way to get him locked up long term. Owner loves him and his wife.Yeah, about that Starks deal:Somebody pinch me. MOP with a POSITIVE Dolphins' opinion??
I totally agree though. Randy Starks coming back at 2/12 turned me from "Well he's doing ok" to "Hmm.. maybe this guy knows what's going on."
Certainly we still have a bit of a mess in the LBs after last year's FA but as you pointed out, the signings so far give us a lot of flexibility in the rest of FA and the draft. And now that the initial wave is over, we should be able to get some bargains out there with all our cap space.
Oh, it might be worth that $6 million per year annual average if Starks maxes out and actually sticks around for the two seasons because there are $1 million in incentives each year -- in 2014 and 2015.
But the deal is actually for a total of $10 million with $5 million guaranteed in the form of the $2 million signing bonus and his $3 million base salary this coming season. The other $5 million comes in the form of 2015 base salary.
Aponte is a wizard with these contracts.
Seems like Aponte has done an excellent job. We have loaded up on blue chip free agents for the past 2 years, and we somehow still have a boatload of cap room. I know a lot of that has to do with having a starting QB still on a rookie deal, but she has still done a great job. As an added bonus, she probably is a huge reason why Ireland was finally dismissed.Ministry of Pain said:So $6M only counting about $3M against the cap. I would like to see more from Tannehill but I think they are paving the way to get him locked up long term. Owner loves him and his wife.Slapdash said:Yeah, about that Starks deal:Trey said:Somebody pinch me. MOP with a POSITIVE Dolphins' opinion??
I totally agree though. Randy Starks coming back at 2/12 turned me from "Well he's doing ok" to "Hmm.. maybe this guy knows what's going on."
Certainly we still have a bit of a mess in the LBs after last year's FA but as you pointed out, the signings so far give us a lot of flexibility in the rest of FA and the draft. And now that the initial wave is over, we should be able to get some bargains out there with all our cap space.
Oh, it might be worth that $6 million per year annual average if Starks maxes out and actually sticks around for the two seasons because there are $1 million in incentives each year -- in 2014 and 2015.
But the deal is actually for a total of $10 million with $5 million guaranteed in the form of the $2 million signing bonus and his $3 million base salary this coming season. The other $5 million comes in the form of 2015 base salary.
Aponte is a wizard with these contracts.
Don't give Aponte too much credit yet.
Tate's no better than Lamar MillerTate is looking to get paid, not worth it imo. LB, Safety and Guard glaring holes as of right now, it's almost worth it to take the cap hit on Wheeler just to get his stink off the roster.
Slapdash said:G Shelly Smith to Miami at $5.5mm for 2 years with $1.5mm guarnteed
Smith was the league’s fourth-best run-blocking guard a year ago, according to the scouting service Pro Football Focus.
Sounds like the Grimes deal last year. I mean as the DB #2 opposite Grimes, sign me up!!! Miami is doing a really nice job of not overcommitting long term to these guys.Slapdash said:CB Cortland Finnegan to Miami at rumored $11mm for 2 years.
G Shelly Smith to Miami at $5.5mm for 2 years with $1.5mm guarnteed
Like the Finnegan move a lot; another high reward/low risk play in the secondary.
Shelly you can't be serious!Slapdash said:G Shelly Smith to Miami at $5.5mm for 2 years with $1.5mm guarnteedSmith was the league’s fourth-best run-blocking guard a year ago, according to the scouting service Pro Football Focus.
He has been but, as MOP pointed out, Miami isn't exactly committing to him or any FA outside of Albert and Mitchell beyond the next year. He is going to be competing with a couple of talented second year players who will hopefully overtake him. However, he will have the shot to prove he can play like he did earlier in his career for a cheap price.Beerguzzler said:Finnegan? The guy has been AWFUL.
Strief resigned with NO so that really takes away the best RT remaining for Miami. They could always go after Penn and move him to RT, but that would be a gamble. Looks like the best OL remaining is Davin Joseph from TB. I think Hickey is going to need to grab one of these two to avoid reaching in the draft.Armando Salguero: Miami Dolphins’ quest to not overpay could slow rebuilding process
I think these are well put concerns but I'm not sure I agree with them. You build a team through the draft, not free agency. I think Miami has done well to sign 5 players who can start at good value. And they've done it without burying young players on the roster before they get a chance or committing more long term money. I like the depth at G, LB, and RB in the first three rounds. A runner like Hyde or Mason is just the type I want to see.paired with Miller.
The real question mark is right tackle. Would hope to find someone who can start but there isn't too much out there. May have to burn the first pick there.
I don't love it but I don't hate it. He didn't play too terrible and obviously would like to stay in Miami. The name of the game is to have a starting OL that the staff feels comfortable enough to not reach for a position in the draft.ChuckLiddell said:Omar Kelly tweeted that McKinnie is being considered for RT