*** OFFICIAL*** Minnesota Vikings offseason thread (2 Viewers)

[Andy Dufresne]

Jeez AE who pissed in your cheerios today? All fair-weather fans jumped ship early to beat the traffic.

Andy was being a #####. He is a so so fan like urbanhack. And he needed the beat down.

Link?

 

[ArcticEdge]

Jeez AE who pissed in your cheerios today? All fair-weather fans jumped ship early to beat the traffic.

Andy was being a #####. He is a so so fan like urbanhack. And he needed the beat down.

Link?

 

[Funkley]

All this angst.......its not like they give a #### about us. Enjoy the entertainment but it hardly affects life. Matter of fact, after an off season like this i'm pretty sure the Vikings hate you real fans.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Jeez AE who pissed in your cheerios today? All fair-weather fans jumped ship early to beat the traffic.

Andy was being a #####. He is a so so fan like urbanhack. And he needed the beat down.

Link?

So...you're just making stuff up then?

 

[mr roboto]

Must be VERY boring up in Alaska. I almost feel sorry for a troll with cabin fever.

Almost.

 

[ArcticEdge]

Jeez AE who pissed in your cheerios today? All fair-weather fans jumped ship early to beat the traffic.

Andy was being a #####. He is a so so fan like urbanhack. And he needed the beat down.

Link?

You killed your wife #####. You were convicted of it. Only a ##### does that.

 

[ArcticEdge]

Must be VERY boring up in Alaska. I almost feel sorry for a troll with cabin fever. Almost.

Im not bored. Troll? Just telling it like it is. Andy and urbanhack are fair weather fans..

 

[Andy Dufresne]

You killed your wife #####. You were convicted of it. Only a ##### does that.

"Sir, it's quite possible this asteroid is not entirely stable."

 

[Funkley]

Tower, this is Ghost Rider requesting a flyby.

 

[snogger]

I remember before December 1998 when a Viking loss meant a day of depression the day after for me..

Then on the 11th of December 1998 my Daughter was born.

Had the Vikings lost the NFC Title game in Jan. of 1998 like they did in Jan. of 1999 I am slightly concerned how I would have reacted..

But with my daughter being barely 1 month old, although :( that they lost the game, the way I looked at a Game changed and it didn't affect me as much as it would have a year earlier.

I still bleed Purple.. have viking jackets, shirts and Jackets that I still wear proudly when I walk around my town in Wisconsin... have to duck the incoming insults, but that is half the fun

I cheer loudly and get when they make a great play and go into a when they F'Up..

But once the game is over it is over, and I don't let it affect my mood any more.. there is always next week, month, year.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

I remember before December 1998 when a Viking loss meant a day of depression the day after for me..

Then on the 11th of December 1998 my Daughter was born.

Had the Vikings lost the NFC Title game in Jan. of 1998 like they did in Jan. of 1999 I am slightly concerned how I would have reacted..

But with my daughter being barely 1 month old, although :( that they lost the game, the way I looked at a Game changed and it didn't affect me as much as it would have a year earlier.

I still bleed Purple.. have viking jackets, shirts and Jackets that I still wear proudly when I walk around my town in Wisconsin... have to duck the incoming insults, but that is half the fun

I cheer loudly and get when they make a great play and go into a when they F'Up..

But once the game is over it is over, and I don't let it affect my mood any more.. there is always next week, month, year.

Clown.

 

[snellman]

I remember before December 1998 when a Viking loss meant a day of depression the day after for me..

Then on the 11th of December 1998 my Daughter was born.

Had the Vikings lost the NFC Title game in Jan. of 1998 like they did in Jan. of 1999 I am slightly concerned how I would have reacted..

But with my daughter being barely 1 month old, although :( that they lost the game, the way I looked at a Game changed and it didn't affect me as much as it would have a year earlier.

I still bleed Purple.. have viking jackets, shirts and Jackets that I still wear proudly when I walk around my town in Wisconsin... have to duck the incoming insults, but that is half the fun

I cheer loudly and get when they make a great play and go into a when they F'Up..

But once the game is over it is over, and I don't let it affect my mood any more.. there is always next week, month, year.

although we have been saying the bolded part for a LONG time.

 

[snogger]

I remember before December 1998 when a Viking loss meant a day of depression the day after for me..

Then on the 11th of December 1998 my Daughter was born.

Had the Vikings lost the NFC Title game in Jan. of 1998 like they did in Jan. of 1999 I am slightly concerned how I would have reacted..

But with my daughter being barely 1 month old, although :( that they lost the game, the way I looked at a Game changed and it didn't affect me as much as it would have a year earlier.

I still bleed Purple.. have viking jackets, shirts and Jackets that I still wear proudly when I walk around my town in Wisconsin... have to duck the incoming insults, but that is half the fun

I cheer loudly and get when they make a great play and go into a when they F'Up..

But once the game is over it is over, and I don't let it affect my mood any more.. there is always next week, month, year.

Clown.

 

[snogger]

I remember before December 1998 when a Viking loss meant a day of depression the day after for me..

Then on the 11th of December 1998 my Daughter was born.

Had the Vikings lost the NFC Title game in Jan. of 1998 like they did in Jan. of 1999 I am slightly concerned how I would have reacted..

But with my daughter being barely 1 month old, although :( that they lost the game, the way I looked at a Game changed and it didn't affect me as much as it would have a year earlier.

I still bleed Purple.. have viking jackets, shirts and Jackets that I still wear proudly when I walk around my town in Wisconsin... have to duck the incoming insults, but that is half the fun

I cheer loudly and get when they make a great play and go into a when they F'Up..

But once the game is over it is over, and I don't let it affect my mood any more.. there is always next week, month, year.

although we have been saying the bolded part for a LONG time.

True... But I am only 44 so I haven't suffered as long as some

 

[Jobber]

This thread is awesome. I love how dedicated a fan AE is, and am proud to have him on our side. If we ever get into a rumble with a group of Packer fans, we can have our own little "bring out the gimp" moment. Andy can have the honor of leading AE out on the leash.

 

[snogger]

This thread is awesome. I love how dedicated a fan AE is, and am proud to have him on our side. If we ever get into a rumble with a group of Packer fans, we can have our own little "bring out the gimp" moment. Andy can have the honor of leading AE out on the leash.

I believe I went above and beyond being a "True" Viking fan when I wore my Viking jacket around town in Wisconsin the day after the Packers won their last Super Bowl.

 

[Herb]

This thread is awesome. I love how dedicated a fan AE is, and am proud to have him on our side. If we ever get into a rumble with a group of Packer fans, we can have our own little "bring out the gimp" moment. Andy can have the honor of leading AE out on the leash.

My guess is that Andy would prefer AE had the ball gag in though. That way AE could still snarl, but not form any real words.

 

[Biabreakable]

Let's say the rumors of trading with Miami are true. Who would they target at #8? I'd think either one of the WR's or possibly even Kuechly. The reason for the latter is that the MLB has to be much more athletic than Brinkley if they're going to run the same Cover 2 scheme they have been.

Sounds about right but I think it would be a huge mistake to pass on Kalil for any of these other players.Any linebacker we draft needs to be able to cover. I like Mychal Kendricks and he could possibly still be available with our 3rd round pick. None of the other LB has really stood out to me. I think Kuechly would be a reach at pick 8. But I don't like the value of picks 7-15 much at all.I think this is a relatively deep draft so picking late 1st to mid 3rd round is the place to be after the top 6.

 

[Biabreakable]

This thread is awesome. I love how dedicated a fan AE is, and am proud to have him on our side. If we ever get into a rumble with a group of Packer fans, we can have our own little "bring out the gimp" moment. Andy can have the honor of leading AE out on the leash.

I believe I went above and beyond being a "True" Viking fan when I wore my Viking jacket around town in Wisconsin the day after the Packers won their last Super Bowl.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

After doing many, many iterations of my final mock draft, I have come to the conclusion that Spielman will trade out of the #3 pick and it will be a mistake.

Miami will trade up to the #3 because they know that KC is willing to jump ahead of them for Tannehill.

Then, St. Louis will be able to take Kalil at #6 (even though no Fisher coached team has taken a tackle in the 1st before), leaving the Vikings to either take Reiff at #8 or be forced to trade up into the top half of the 1st to take someone like Martin, Adams, or Bobby Massie.

The best thing to do is stay where they're at, but I think there's a 75% chance (scientifically gauged, of course) that they'll trade out of the pick.

 

[Funkley]

What do you think they get? A 2nd this year?

 

[Andy Dufresne]

What do you think they get? A 2nd this year?

For Miami to move from 8 to 3 I think it would take something like their 1st and 2nd this year and either their 2nd next year or 3rd this.

 

[jestertj]

After doing many, many iterations of my final mock draft, I have come to the conclusion that Spielman will trade out of the #3 pick and it will be a mistake.Miami will trade up to the #3 because they know that KC is willing to jump ahead of them for Tannehill.Then, St. Louis will be able to take Kalil at #6 (even though no Fisher coached team has taken a tackle in the 1st before), leaving the Vikings to either take Reiff at #8 or be forced to trade up into the top half of the 1st to take someone like Martin, Adams, or Bobby Massie.The best thing to do is stay where they're at, but I think there's a 75% chance (scientifically gauged, of course) that they'll trade out of the pick.

My suspicion is that any trade down would be to acquire a certain former golden dome WR, since the GM seems to sport wood for former golden domers...I still want the LT at #3.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

My suspicion is that any trade down would be to acquire a certain former golden dome WR, since the GM seems to sport wood for former golden domers...I still want the LT at #3.

Yes and yes.

 

[ArcticEdge]

Let me tell you guys a little story. Last July I was coming back from Vegas, and I had a slight lay over in Anchorage. As I get off the plane, this late 20s something chick is staring at me, particularly at my Vikings ball cap. She stops right in front of me (so I have to stop), and takes a Green Bay cap out of her bag, puts it on, and looks at me. The conversation then goes likes this (exactly like this):

Me: Nice hat.

(I start walking, and she stays in stride with me)

Her: So what do you think of Favre?

Me: I think he kicked your ### in 2009, swept you guys if I recall..

Her: He's a pervert, dont you think?

(I stop and look at her)

(she stops and looks at me)

Me: I bet 10 years ago that Favre made you wet every time you watched him..

Her: You're a monster!

Me: Skank!

(she storms off and flips me off)

I then went and had a drink at the Chili's bar in the airport, and she was there at the other end of the bar, bad mouthing me to these guys who were so so listening. At the end of her version, one of them looked at me and smiled. I just lifted my water up to him and smiled back as my drink had not come yet.

That's how I roll as a fan. Also, this chick was pretty hot, which did not phase me in the slightest.

 

[Herb]

Let me tell you guys a little story. Last July I was coming back from Vegas, and I had a slight lay over in Anchorage. As I get off the plane, this late 20s something chick is staring at me, particularly at my Vikings ball cap. She stops right in front of me (so I have to stop), and takes a Green Bay cap out of her bag, puts it on, and looks at me. The conversation then goes likes this (exactly like this): Me: Nice hat.(I start walking, and she stays in stride with me)Her: So what do you think of Favre?Me: I think he kicked your ### in 2009, swept you guys if I recall..Her: He's a pervert, dont you think?(I stop and look at her)(she stops and looks at me)Me: I bet 10 years ago that Favre made you wet every time you watched him..Her: You're a monster!Me: Skank!(she storms off and flips me off) I then went and had a drink at the Chili's bar in the airport, and she was there at the other end of the bar, bad mouthing me to these guys who were so so listening. At the end of her version, one of them looked at me and smiled. I just lifted my water up to him and smiled back as my drink had not come yet. That's how I roll as a fan. Also, this chick was pretty hot, which did not phase me in the slightest.

AE, if I ever get tix to a Min-GB game at Lambeau, I want you with me. We may not get out alive, but it would be one helluva good time.

 

[Funkley]

And if a Viking player had been with you he would have told you to #### off and then he would have nailed the skank. Moral of the story, the NFL cares less about you than you do of it.....unless you're a skank.

 

[Gopher State]

Let me tell you guys a little story. Last July I was coming back from Vegas, and I had a slight lay over in Anchorage. As I get off the plane, this late 20s something chick is staring at me, particularly at my Vikings ball cap. She stops right in front of me (so I have to stop), and takes a Green Bay cap out of her bag, puts it on, and looks at me. The conversation then goes likes this (exactly like this): Me: Nice hat.(I start walking, and she stays in stride with me)Her: So what do you think of Favre?Me: I think he kicked your ### in 2009, swept you guys if I recall..Her: He's a pervert, dont you think?(I stop and look at her)(she stops and looks at me)Me: I bet 10 years ago that Favre made you wet every time you watched him..Her: You're a monster!Me: Skank!(she storms off and flips me off) I then went and had a drink at the Chili's bar in the airport, and she was there at the other end of the bar, bad mouthing me to these guys who were so so listening. At the end of her version, one of them looked at me and smiled. I just lifted my water up to him and smiled back as my drink had not come yet. That's how I roll as a fan. Also, this chick was pretty hot, which did not phase me in the slightest.

you da man Edge you da man

 

[Biabreakable]

According to RotoWorld.com, ESPN's Adam Schefter said in a recent Q&A that the Minnesota Vikings will pass on Matt Kalil with the third overall pick in the 2012 NFL draft.

Schefter acknowledges that he's in the "minority" in this belief, and the Vikings have not finalized their draft-day decision. Schefter has hinted repeatedly on SportsCenter and NFL Live recently that Kalil is far from a lock at No. 3, though, and he takes it a step further in this Q & A session with fans. It would throw quite a wrench into the mock drafts.

According to the Viking Age, in the interview with ESPN Insider, Schefter said he would put his money on the table that the Vikings would pass up on Kalil.

Schefter is not the first person who has said the Vikings will not select Kalil, but he is the most important. If there is any opinion from the NFL that carries weight, it's Schefter's.

It would be crazy for the Vikings to stay with the third pick and not select Kalil. He is exactly what the team needs because of their huge hole at the left tackle position.

The Vikes were used to some decent play at the position when Bryant McKinnie was their starter. However, a good dose of laziness and gluttony meant McKinnie showed up to camp overweight a season ago. Therefore, the team eventually cut him and brought in a new starter.

Last season, Charlie Johnson played left tackle for the Vikings, while three different quarterbacks started under center. Christian Ponder was sacked 30 times in only 10 starts. Meanwhile, Joe Webb and Donovan McNabb were sacked a combined total of 19 times.

Allowing an average of three sacks per game is not something the Vikings should ever be proud of. Ponder will be the team's starter next season. However, if he is being sacked three or more times per game, he may never develop.

The Vikings need to bring in a No. 1 target at wide receiver, but they first need to give Ponder his insurance policy in Kalil.

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At 6'7 and 306 pounds, Kalil has the ideal size to be an elite left tackle. He never allowed a sack in college. Even though the NFL is much different and he will likely allow a couple of sacks throughout his career, it shows that he knows how to protect a quarterback.

If Schefter is right and the Vikings do not select Kalil with the third overall pick in the draft, it must mean that Zygi Wylf and Rick Spielman have traded down with the Miami Dolphins or another team. It would not make sense otherwise.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1142995-nfl-draft-2012-adam-schefter-guarantees-the-vikings-will-not-select-matt-kalilThese guys are really having fun with all the speculation! It does give me pause to hear Schefter saying this. That guy usually knows stuff.

 

[FunkyPlutos]

These guys are really having fun with all the speculation! It does give me pause to hear Schefter saying this. That guy usually knows stuff.

If they aren't sold on Kalil as being their target, then they have to trade down - no matter what!! I can't imagine why they wouldn't like the guy but if they have their reasons, then they have to make the move down and gather more picks...this team needs so much help it isn't even funny!

 

[Biabreakable]

These guys are really having fun with all the speculation! It does give me pause to hear Schefter saying this. That guy usually knows stuff.

If they aren't sold on Kalil as being their target, then they have to trade down - no matter what!! I can't imagine why they wouldn't like the guy but if they have their reasons, then they have to make the move down and gather more picks...this team needs so much help it isn't even funny!

I do not see why they wouldn't be sold on Kalil. Every other tackle prospect is talked about as needing seasoning, starting at RT or Guard until they are ready to play LT. Kalil is the only one talked about as being ready to take on the best of the best day one.I do think a trade down could still be worth it. But we need to get a deal close to what the Lambs got to make it so. I think Kalil is that valuable.If these guys are just saying this to make press then fine. You got me! Good one!

 

[Donnybrook]

I really don't trust too much I read on a Bleacher report. I wish the author would have quoted Schefter directly. I know that 2 weeks ago he tweeted this:

My feeling today is in the minority. Think WR Justin Blackmon.

Could the author be talking Schefter's words out of context?

 

[Biabreakable]

I really don't trust too much I read on a Bleacher report. I wish the author would have quoted Schefter directly. I know that 2 weeks ago he tweeted this:

My feeling today is in the minority. Think WR Justin Blackmon.

Could the author be talking Schefter's words out of context?

Certainly possible.The source is from roto

LATEST NEWSRECENT NEWSAdam Schefter wrote in an ESPN Insider Q & A that he believes the Vikings will pass on USC LT Matt Kalil with the No. 3 pick.Schefter acknowledges that he's in the "minority" in this belief, and the Vikings have not finalized their draft-day decision. Schefter has hinted repeatedly on SportsCenter and NFL Live recently that Kalil is far from a lock at No. 3, though, and he takes it a step further in this Q & A session with fans. It would throw quite a wrench into the mock drafts. Apr 12 - 11:54 AM

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/7410/matt-kalil

 

[RustyFA4]

How can you possibly think that is acceptable behavior? Seriously?

 

[Biabreakable]

How can you possibly think that is acceptable behavior? Seriously?

What are you referring to? If Schefter is wrong about this it will be the 1st time I have noticed him going out on a limb in this way for no reason.

 

[Red Forman]

And if a Viking player had been with you he would have told you to #### off and then he would have nailed the skank. Moral of the story, the NFL cares less about you than you do of it.....unless you're a skank.

Well you better stop watching then.. Btw, I called Big Hoss after the incident, and he agreed she was a hostile skank. So zip it.

 

[jestertj]

While I'm still not buying the "not sold on Kalil at #3" writings, if you're Spielman and you trade out of #3 you had better nail this draft. Otherwise he'll be out in two years.

 

[SWC]

congrats on yelling at a woman at an airport i guess that is what passes for being a man in minnesota probably explains why your stuff falls apart like roofs and bridges because dudes like you are putting it together you probably use hair barets and nair for construction materials and fastners but hey man you sure told her off awesome job what is your favorite scent of candle super guy

 

[The Gatekeeper]

congrats on yelling at a woman at an airport i guess that is what passes for being a man in minnesota probably explains why your stuff falls apart like roofs and bridges because dudes like you are putting it together you probably use hair barets and nair for construction materials and fastners but hey man you sure told her off awesome job what is your favorite scent of candle super guy

Hmmm says to me that he is located in Alaska and the above incident happened in Anchorage Alaska so how exactly does this reflect what a "Minnesota Man" is I wonder? Also I would take a look at your building of Miller Park before I start going around making fun of other building incidents in other states.

 

[FunkyPlutos]

Ok, so I am bored and I have no life...let's play the "what if" game...I am in the "Take Kalil" camp but thought I would take a devil's advocate approach...

Let's say that the Vikings make a deal with the Dolphins...draft chart says that 1.03 should be worth about 1.08, 2.10 and 3.09. I would think that the Vikings could almost get the Dolphins 2nd third round pick (3.10) and give the Vikings 4.03 pick but let's just say that they do the first for a first, second and third...here is what it might look like both ways...

Vikings keep the 1.03:

1st round: Kalil

2nd round: Stephen Hill/Rueben Randle/best available WR or maybe a DB (Harrison Smith)

3rd round: Dwight Bentley/Jamell Fleming/best WR available if not picked in 2nd

Vikings make the trade:

1st round: Michael Floyd/Justin Blackmon (he may drop)

2nd round (Vikings): Mike Adams/Jeff Allen/Bobby Massie/Zebrie Sanders (best available OT - take your pick)

2nd round (Dolphins): Harrison Smith/best available DB

3rd round (Vikings): Bentley/Fleming/Dennard/best available DB

3rd round (Dolphins): Mike Martin/BPA

When looking at it that way, the players that they could gain by making the trade might be worth it. They could also package 2nd/3rd rounders to move up into the later first...something that they have to think about doing...

 

[BigJim®]

Hope all this talk isn't legit. They'll ruin Ponder trying to use bandaids at LT/LG for 2012. Good LTs don't come along often enough to get cute. Take the bird in the hand, Kalil. Vikes aren't competent enough at drafting to make use of extra picks anyway.

 

[Donnybrook]

I really don't trust too much I read on a Bleacher report. I wish the author would have quoted Schefter directly. I know that 2 weeks ago he tweeted this:

My feeling today is in the minority. Think WR Justin Blackmon.

Could the author be talking Schefter's words out of context?

Certainly possible.The source is from roto

LATEST NEWS

RECENT NEWS

Adam Schefter wrote in an ESPN Insider Q & A that he believes the Vikings will pass on USC LT Matt Kalil with the No. 3 pick.

Schefter acknowledges that he's in the "minority" in this belief, and the Vikings have not finalized their draft-day decision. Schefter has hinted repeatedly on SportsCenter and NFL Live recently that Kalil is far from a lock at No. 3, though, and he takes it a step further in this Q & A session with fans. It would throw quite a wrench into the mock drafts. Apr 12 - 11:54 AM

http://www.rotoworld...7410/matt-kalil

I found the complete Schefter quote: http://profootballzo...-on-matt-kalil/

ESPN's Adam Schefter recently took some time to answer some questions from fans about the upcoming NFL draft. One of those questions was whether or not the Buffalo Bills might trade up to draft USC's Matt Kalil if the Vikings don't draft him with the third pick.

"It could be that Kalil falls and if Buffalo wants to go trade up to No. 5 (Tampa Bay) or No. 6 (St. Louis), those teams would be all ears in terms of listening to offers" wrote Schefter. "If Buffalo stays where it is, the sense around the league is that the Bills will have their choice between Kuechly or DeCastro and other good players who will be available at that spot. But I like your Kalil idea, Jake. It makes sense to me. The key to that would be Minnesota passing on Kalil, which I happen to believe the Vikings will. I'm in the minority there, and the Vikings are still deciding what to do, but I don't think Kalil is the lock that others do even if Minnesota stays at No. 3."

What's interesting about Schefter's answer is that he believes the Vikings will end up passing up on Kalil. We mentioned yesterday that they're targeting Kalil, Morris Claiborne and Justin Blackmon. Their decision will likely come down to those three players, if they don't trade down.

After reading this, I feel a little better. It seems like ideal speculation. Why the hell wouldn't St. Louis or Tampa take Kalil if he fell to them? Does Schefter think the Rams need more picks?

 

[datonn]

If Miami offered the 1.08 and OT Long, I'd personally do that in a heartbeat! I'm one who is hoping that they'll go Kalil at 1.03, but getting a VERY good OT *and* having the 1.08 to go Blackmon/Floyd/Claiborne or (if all are gone) someone like Reiff (OL would go from tha suck to pretty darned good in about 45-60 minutes on draft day)? You gotta do that...QUICKLY, before the Dolphins changed their minds.

Talking Miami into anything besides the 1.08 and Long? Well that'd just be icing on the cake. Playing with house money! If we can't pull the trigger on a deal like that, however, I'd just as soon see them stand pat at 1.03 and draft Kalil.

 

[griff321]

And if a Viking player had been with you he would have told you to #### off and then he would have nailed the skank. Moral of the story, the NFL cares less about you than you do of it.....unless you're a skank.

Well you better stop watching then.. Btw, I called Big Hoss after the incident, and he agreed she was a hostile skank. So zip it.

IMHO she was a total skank. Who the hell did this princess think she was anyway!? Well played sir.

 

[The Gatekeeper]

I wonder if the Bengals are coveting anyone high in this draft like Trent Richardson or Morris Claiborne? Ok this is ridiculous wishful thinking here but what if we traded the #3 for the #17 and #21 of Cincy plus their 2nd round pick this year and their 2nd next year. Now we trade the #21 pick to the Steelers for Mike Wallace and at #17 we grab a player like Johnathon Martin, Dre Kirkpatrick, or Stephon Gilmore. Then use the 2 number 2 picks to either grab a LT if we didnt get Martin and a safety like Barron if he slips or Harrison Smith. To me it just seems like the Vikings are destined to trade out of that pick and if we are going to lose out on Kalil then at least do something big like bring in Mike Wallace. So let's say we get Martin at #17 our offense would look pretty solid. An Offensive line of Martin, Johnson, Sullivan, Schwartz, Loadholt with a better prepared Ponder at QB, Peterson/Gerhart at RB, Rudolph and Carlson running 2 TE sets, and Harvin and Wallace at WR. Even with a mediocre Defense I would like our chances of doing pretty well with that Offense.

 

[Red Forman]

And if a Viking player had been with you he would have told you to #### off and then he would have nailed the skank. Moral of the story, the NFL cares less about you than you do of it.....unless you're a skank.

Well you better stop watching then.. Btw, I called Big Hoss after the incident, and he agreed she was a hostile skank. So zip it.

IMHO she was a total skank. Who the hell did this princess think she was anyway!? Well played sir.

She was trying to pick a fight with me. So I gave her one.

 

[Red Forman]

I wonder if the Bengals are coveting anyone high in this draft like Trent Richardson or Morris Claiborne? Ok this is ridiculous wishful thinking here but what if we traded the #3 for the #17 and #21 of Cincy plus their 2nd round pick this year and their 2nd next year. Now we trade the #21 pick to the Steelers for Mike Wallace and at #17 we grab a player like Johnathon Martin, Dre Kirkpatrick, or Stephon Gilmore. Then use the 2 number 2 picks to either grab a LT if we didnt get Martin and a safety like Barron if he slips or Harrison Smith. To me it just seems like the Vikings are destined to trade out of that pick and if we are going to lose out on Kalil then at least do something big like bring in Mike Wallace. So let's say we get Martin at #17 our offense would look pretty solid. An Offensive line of Martin, Johnson, Sullivan, Schwartz, Loadholt with a better prepared Ponder at QB, Peterson/Gerhart at RB, Rudolph and Carlson running 2 TE sets, and Harvin and Wallace at WR. Even with a mediocre Defense I would like our chances of doing pretty well with that Offense.

I like this a lot.

 

[Funkley]

% chance Spielman could pull off a 1st round like that?

 

[Donnybrook]

I wonder if the Bengals are coveting anyone high in this draft like Trent Richardson or Morris Claiborne? Ok this is ridiculous wishful thinking here but what if we traded the #3 for the #17 and #21 of Cincy plus their 2nd round pick this year and their 2nd next year. Now we trade the #21 pick to the Steelers for Mike Wallace and at #17 we grab a player like Johnathon Martin, Dre Kirkpatrick, or Stephon Gilmore. Then use the 2 number 2 picks to either grab a LT if we didnt get Martin and a safety like Barron if he slips or Harrison Smith. To me it just seems like the Vikings are destined to trade out of that pick and if we are going to lose out on Kalil then at least do something big like bring in Mike Wallace. So let's say we get Martin at #17 our offense would look pretty solid. An Offensive line of Martin, Johnson, Sullivan, Schwartz, Loadholt with a better prepared Ponder at QB, Peterson/Gerhart at RB, Rudolph and Carlson running 2 TE sets, and Harvin and Wallace at WR. Even with a mediocre Defense I would like our chances of doing pretty well with that Offense.

I like the trade better if we left Mike Wallace out. The ridiculous wishful thinking on my part would be if the Vikings could actually find a star with rookie pick at #21, you could have a starter making less than 2 M per year for the next 4 years. Mike Wallace would upset the entire team making 11 M plus per year. You would have a hard time re-signing Percy and the Vikings would have little cap room for future free agents (espesically since teams can carry that money over)

 

[RustyFA4]

The trade where we get Jake Long just won't happen. He is a top 5 lt. No way.

I think the trade with cinch could as the Rams and Browns seem high on Richardson. 17,21, a 2nd this and next year is about in line with the value. Perhaps a little late. There are a ton of indicators that jonathon Martins stock is dropping. He may be available at our 2nd round pick. If we had these picks I would like to go

If available

17 David decastro og Stanford

21 stephon Gilmore cb south Carolina

2nd mike adams lt Ohio state

2nd Harrison smith ss noted dame

3rd trumaine Johnson fs montana

4th Marvin mcnutt WR Iowa

4th dt depth

4th lb depth

That said I would much rather have

3 Matt Kalil lt USC

2nd Harrison smith ss norte dame

3rd kenechi oseleyo og Iowa state. I killed the spelling here

4th Marvin mcnutt WR Iowa

4th dt depth

4th lb depth