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***Official MLB 2013 Season Thread (1 Viewer)

E-Z Glider said:
Ryan Howard is 0-12 with 7 Ks against LHP this year. Last year he batted .173 with 45 K in 98 AB against LHP.
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Another Ryan Howard Fun Fact:

In his last 225 PA, Ryan Howard has a a .369 SLG with 7 HRs

In his last 225 PA, YOVANNI GALLARDO has a .369 SLG with 7 HRs

 
I've owned many streaky, K-happy mashers in my day and enjoyed having most, but I'm getting this feel that Will Middlebrooks is going to end being the most frustrating player I've ever owned.

I'm getting close to cutting him in a league too deep to be thinking about cutting him just to make him someone else's headache.

 
rascal said:
guru_007 said:
As of right now, Chris Carter has struck out 31 times in 79 pa's (just shy of 40%). offff
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Doesn't Rasmus have a higher strike out %.
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Yep.

Carter currently at 41%

Rasmus at 42.8%

Ankiel (Astros) is at 61.9%

Brett Wallace before he was mercifully sent down was at 65.4%

hell, Dunn and Reynolds for all their high totals were only around 33-34% for the season.

 
pollardsvision said:
I've owned many streaky, K-happy mashers in my day and enjoyed having most, but I'm getting this feel that Will Middlebrooks is going to end being the most frustrating player I've ever owned.

I'm getting close to cutting him in a league too deep to be thinking about cutting him just to make him someone else's headache.
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You obviously never owned Craig Monroe. :mellow:

 
guru_007 said:
rascal said:
guru_007 said:
As of right now, Chris Carter has struck out 31 times in 79 pa's (just shy of 40%). offff
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Doesn't Rasmus have a higher strike out %.
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Yep.

Carter currently at 41%

Rasmus at 42.8%

Ankiel (Astros) is at 61.9%

Brett Wallace before he was mercifully sent down was at 65.4%

hell, Dunn and Reynolds for all their high totals were only around 33-34% for the season.
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WOW! That is awful.

 
Something I really like about that Machado kid. Not really sure what it is and I have no idea when/if the production will ever match the potential, but I like him. Seems like he gets it, whatever that would even mean.

He's kind of like BAL as a whole. On paper, they just don't seem that good, but you watch them and it all sort of makes sense and they are hard not to like.

 
pollardsvision said:
Something I really like about that Machado kid. Not really sure what it is and I have no idea when/if the production will ever match the potential, but I like him. Seems like he gets it, whatever that would even mean.

He's kind of like BAL as a whole. On paper, they just don't seem that good, but you watch them and it all sort of makes sense and they are hard not to like.
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Well, I guess Buck needs to talk to the kid about sliding into home. That was horrible.

 
So did Hawk Harrelson make an ### of himself on MLB Now? Heard the tail end of a radio discussion about it. Sounded like he refused to engage in a discussion about sabermetrics or something from what I heard, but not sure.

 
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So did Hawk Harrelson make an ### of himself on MLB Now? Heard the tail end of a radio discussion about it. Sounded like he refused to engage in a discussion about sabermetrics or something from what I heard, but not sure.
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I thought he made a pretty big fool of himself. He made some good points, but clearly was only interested in beating the bush about TWTW and wouldn't make any sort of acknowledgement that numbers are still important. He's old I guess. Being old means you are allowed to make a fool of yourself trying to learn those young'ens a thing or 2.

Reynolds has looked like a fool a couple of times too, doing the Old school/New School bit. I figure MLBN just has him playing a role to fit in with debate format.

Seems like they are late to the party about this. Doesn't everybody kind of just accept that there's room for both advanced stats and traditional scouting?

I don't mind it since I like both guys though.

 
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pollardsvision said:
pantagrapher said:
So did Hawk Harrelson make an ### of himself on MLB Now? Heard the tail end of a radio discussion about it. Sounded like he refused to engage in a discussion about sabermetrics or something from what I heard, but not sure.
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I thought he made a pretty big fool of himself. He made some good points, but clearly was only interested in beating the bush about TWTW and wouldn't make any sort of acknowledgement that numbers are still important. He's old I guess. Being old means you are allowed to make a fool of yourself trying to learn those young'ens a thing or 2.

Reynolds has looked like a fool a couple of times too, doing the Old school/New School bit. I figure MLBN just has him playing a role to fit in with debate format.

Seems like they are late to the party about this. Doesn't everybody kind of just accept that there's room for both advanced stats and traditional scouting?

I don't mind it since I like both guys though.
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Reynolds is taking the new school to school.

I agree, it's definitely a dichotomy thought up by the producers to encourage conflict.

 
pantagrapher said:
So did Hawk Harrelson make an ### of himself on MLB Now? Heard the tail end of a radio discussion about it. Sounded like he refused to engage in a discussion about sabermetrics or something from what I heard, but not sure.
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Shucks. I missed that. I caught some of the Sox game on Wednesday where he was talking about it and I could just tell he'd be in over his head.I also must have missed when Kenny became a Sabermetician. Good for him for going from a host to an analyst but he seems to struggle with some sabermetrics stuff.
 
Wrigley said:
pantagrapher said:
So did Hawk Harrelson make an ### of himself on MLB Now? Heard the tail end of a radio discussion about it. Sounded like he refused to engage in a discussion about sabermetrics or something from what I heard, but not sure.
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This isn't news
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What's funny is that in his day with today's stats, Hawk would have been thought of as a better player. Not a whole lot better, but enough so that he might have stuck around a few more seasons, and made some more money.

His BA was not good, but he walked enough to have an OBP in the .320's, which in that era was above average.

 
This is so ####### dumb. Arizona DIamnodbacks

“Due to the high visibility of the home plate box, we ask opposing team’s fans when they purchase those seats to refrain from wearing that team’s colors. During last night’s game, when Ken Kendrick noticed the fans there, he offered them another suite if they preferred to remain in their Dodger gear. When they chose to stay, he bought them all D-backs gear and a round of drinks and requested that they abide by our policy and they obliged.”
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the moops said:
This is so ####### dumb. Arizona DIamnodbacks

“Due to the high visibility of the home plate box, we ask opposing team’s fans when they purchase those seats to refrain from wearing that team’s colors. During last night’s game, when Ken Kendrick noticed the fans there, he offered them another suite if they preferred to remain in their Dodger gear. When they chose to stay, he bought them all D-backs gear and a round of drinks and requested that they abide by our policy and they obliged.”
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pantagrapher said:
the moops said:
This is so ####### dumb. Arizona DIamnodbacks

“Due to the high visibility of the home plate box, we ask opposing team’s fans when they purchase those seats to refrain from wearing that team’s colors. During last night’s game, when Ken Kendrick noticed the fans there, he offered them another suite if they preferred to remain in their Dodger gear. When they chose to stay, he bought them all D-backs gear and a round of drinks and requested that they abide by our policy and they obliged.”
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I cant open youtube links at work. Is this Elaine Benes wearing an Orioles cap at Yankee Stadium?

 
shadyridr said:
pantagrapher said:
the moops said:
This is so ####### dumb. Arizona DIamnodbacks

“Due to the high visibility of the home plate box, we ask opposing team’s fans when they purchase those seats to refrain from wearing that team’s colors. During last night’s game, when Ken Kendrick noticed the fans there, he offered them another suite if they preferred to remain in their Dodger gear. When they chose to stay, he bought them all D-backs gear and a round of drinks and requested that they abide by our policy and they obliged.”
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Bingo.

 
Miami Marlins owner Jeffrey Loria personally mandated the lineup card change that flip-flopped starting pitchers Jose Fernandez and Ricky Nolasco in a doubleheader Tuesday and left Marlins players furious with his continued meddling, three sources with knowledge of the situation told Yahoo! Sports.

Owner Jeffrey Loria makes yet another bad decision for the Marlins. (Getty Images)Loria insisted Fernandez, the team's prized 20-year-old rookie, pitch in the first half of the doubleheader at frigid Target Field instead of the scheduled Nolasco because the day game was expected to be warmer. The temperature at Fernandez's first pitch (38 degrees) was actually colder than at the beginning of Nolasco's start (42 degrees).

Rookie manager Mike Redmond delivered the news to Nolasco about 2½ hours before the first game against the Minnesota Twins, and it did not go over well with him or his teammates. Standard protocol for doubleheaders is that veterans choose which game they want to pitch. Not only did Loria ignore that and further alienate Nolasco, the Marlins' highest-paid player who has previously requested a trade, he sabotaged Redmond less than 20 games into his managerial career.

By overstepping boundaries no other owner in baseball would dare, Loria presented Redmond with a Catch-22: listen to the man who signs his paycheck and risk drawing the players' ire, or refuse to kowtow to Loria's requests and find himself at the mercy of the owner's short fuse.

[Related: MLB Power Rankings: Rangers climb near top]

"He was embarrassed," one source said of Redmond, who nonetheless claimed publicly the decision was an organizational choice. "He tried to fight it. He had nothing to do with it."

This is not the first time Loria has tried to tinker with his team's on-field product. Loria, one source said, also made lineup suggestions to Ozzie Guillen, the team's previous manager. Guillen ignored them.

Following an offseason in which they shed more than $100 million in payroll during an epic fire sale, the Marlins are 5-17, the worst record in baseball. Their beautiful new stadium sits practically empty on a nightly basis, even as the team gives away tickets. Neither free seats nor a public-relations barrage meant to spin Loria and Marlins president David Samson in a positive light seems to be working.

The arrival of Fernandez tried to maximize goodwill. For a low-revenue team such as the Marlins, prioritizing service-time consideration instead is of the utmost importance. Loria ignored that, preferring the splash the young Fernandez could make upon a sterling debut.

And indeed he has started well – too well, arguably, to send him to the minor leagues, which means Fernandez will be a free agent after six seasons. Had the Marlins stashed him in the minor leagues for the season's first 11 days – a time during which Fernandez made only one start – he would not have been eligible for free agency until 2019.

[Related: Yankees may give up on plan to reduce payroll ]

No players enjoy hitting the open market more than the Marlins', some of whom refer to free agency as parole. The only true way to build a winner, absent another misguided spending spree, is by changing that perception – by making Miami the sort of franchise for which players want to play.

The latest incident from Loria is simply another reminder: That will never happen as long as he runs the team. After more than a decade as an owner, Loria remains naïve to the real goings-on of a clubhouse – of how an incident such as this doesn't just affect Nolasco but filters down to his teammates and even the purported beneficiary, Fernandez.

As much as Loria tries to ingratiate himself to Fernandez – he personally delivered the news that the right-hander would break camp with the Marlins – it is more of the same misguided nonsense. There is too much bad history and too little sense from Loria for Fernandez's opinion on Marlins ownership to be any different than all the other players who go through Miami.

Fernandez heard the stories, the ones that seem too far-fetched to be true. And now, just like all the others stuck playing for the worst owner in baseball, he must live them for years to come.
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the moops said:
This is so ####### dumb. Arizona DIamnodbacks

“Due to the high visibility of the home plate box, we ask opposing team’s fans when they purchase those seats to refrain from wearing that team’s colors. During last night’s game, when Ken Kendrick noticed the fans there, he offered them another suite if they preferred to remain in their Dodger gear. When they chose to stay, he bought them all D-backs gear and a round of drinks and requested that they abide by our policy and they obliged.”
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#### that noise.

 
I like Razzball, but the Friday Buy/Sell column has really gotten ridiculous.

To save everyone some time, I'll go ahead and tell you the contents of every future column:

Buy: Everyone, and I mean everyone, that is currently playing well but isn't fully owned.

Sell: A single struggling vet who's been on a downslide for at least 3 seasons and is currently banged up.

 
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pollardsvision said:
I like Razzball, but the Friday Buy/Sell column has really gotten ridiculous.

To save everyone some time, I'll go ahead and tell you the contents of every future column:

Buy: Everyone, and I mean everyone, that is currently playing well but isn't fully owned.

Sell: A single struggling vet who's been on a downslide for at least 3 seasons and is currently banged up.
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Yup. I would almost never use Razzball as a guide for making roster decisions. Entertaining stuff, no doubt. But any good info is accidental.

 
shadyridr said:
Miami Marlins owner Jeffrey Loria personally mandated the lineup card change that flip-flopped starting pitchers Jose Fernandez and Ricky Nolasco in a doubleheader Tuesday and left Marlins players furious with his continued meddling, three sources with knowledge of the situation told Yahoo! Sports.

Owner Jeffrey Loria makes yet another bad decision for the Marlins. (Getty Images)Loria insisted Fernandez, the team's prized 20-year-old rookie, pitch in the first half of the doubleheader at frigid Target Field instead of the scheduled Nolasco because the day game was expected to be warmer. The temperature at Fernandez's first pitch (38 degrees) was actually colder than at the beginning of Nolasco's start (42 degrees).

Rookie manager Mike Redmond delivered the news to Nolasco about 2½ hours before the first game against the Minnesota Twins, and it did not go over well with him or his teammates. Standard protocol for doubleheaders is that veterans choose which game they want to pitch. Not only did Loria ignore that and further alienate Nolasco, the Marlins' highest-paid player who has previously requested a trade, he sabotaged Redmond less than 20 games into his managerial career.

By overstepping boundaries no other owner in baseball would dare, Loria presented Redmond with a Catch-22: listen to the man who signs his paycheck and risk drawing the players' ire, or refuse to kowtow to Loria's requests and find himself at the mercy of the owner's short fuse.

[Related: MLB Power Rankings: Rangers climb near top]

"He was embarrassed," one source said of Redmond, who nonetheless claimed publicly the decision was an organizational choice. "He tried to fight it. He had nothing to do with it."

This is not the first time Loria has tried to tinker with his team's on-field product. Loria, one source said, also made lineup suggestions to Ozzie Guillen, the team's previous manager. Guillen ignored them.

Following an offseason in which they shed more than $100 million in payroll during an epic fire sale, the Marlins are 5-17, the worst record in baseball. Their beautiful new stadium sits practically empty on a nightly basis, even as the team gives away tickets. Neither free seats nor a public-relations barrage meant to spin Loria and Marlins president David Samson in a positive light seems to be working.

The arrival of Fernandez tried to maximize goodwill. For a low-revenue team such as the Marlins, prioritizing service-time consideration instead is of the utmost importance. Loria ignored that, preferring the splash the young Fernandez could make upon a sterling debut.

And indeed he has started well – too well, arguably, to send him to the minor leagues, which means Fernandez will be a free agent after six seasons. Had the Marlins stashed him in the minor leagues for the season's first 11 days – a time during which Fernandez made only one start – he would not have been eligible for free agency until 2019.

[Related: Yankees may give up on plan to reduce payroll ]

No players enjoy hitting the open market more than the Marlins', some of whom refer to free agency as parole. The only true way to build a winner, absent another misguided spending spree, is by changing that perception – by making Miami the sort of franchise for which players want to play.

The latest incident from Loria is simply another reminder: That will never happen as long as he runs the team. After more than a decade as an owner, Loria remains naïve to the real goings-on of a clubhouse – of how an incident such as this doesn't just affect Nolasco but filters down to his teammates and even the purported beneficiary, Fernandez.

As much as Loria tries to ingratiate himself to Fernandez – he personally delivered the news that the right-hander would break camp with the Marlins – it is more of the same misguided nonsense. There is too much bad history and too little sense from Loria for Fernandez's opinion on Marlins ownership to be any different than all the other players who go through Miami.

Fernandez heard the stories, the ones that seem too far-fetched to be true. And now, just like all the others stuck playing for the worst owner in baseball, he must live them for years to come.
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As a fan of the former Montreal Expos, all I can say is ... :popcorn:

 
pantagrapher said:
pollardsvision said:
I like Razzball, but the Friday Buy/Sell column has really gotten ridiculous.

To save everyone some time, I'll go ahead and tell you the contents of every future column:

Buy: Everyone, and I mean everyone, that is currently playing well but isn't fully owned.

Sell: A single struggling vet who's been on a downslide for at least 3 seasons and is currently banged up.
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Yup. I would almost never use Razzball as a guide for making roster decisions. Entertaining stuff, no doubt. But any good info is accidental.
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who do you guys use then????

 
rascal said:
pantagrapher said:
pollardsvision said:
I like Razzball, but the Friday Buy/Sell column has really gotten ridiculous.To save everyone some time, I'll go ahead and tell you the contents of every future column: Buy: Everyone, and I mean everyone, that is currently playing well but isn't fully owned. Sell: A single struggling vet who's been on a downslide for at least 3 seasons and is currently banged up.
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Yup. I would almost never use Razzball as a guide for making roster decisions. Entertaining stuff, no doubt. But any good info is accidental.
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who do you guys use then????
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I like to read fangraphs. Nice balance with Razzball. Razzball's funny and is updated daily. fangraphs is more informative.I don't really know of any other good sites though.
 
pollardsvision said:
rascal said:
pantagrapher said:
pollardsvision said:
I like Razzball, but the Friday Buy/Sell column has really gotten ridiculous.To save everyone some time, I'll go ahead and tell you the contents of every future column: Buy: Everyone, and I mean everyone, that is currently playing well but isn't fully owned. Sell: A single struggling vet who's been on a downslide for at least 3 seasons and is currently banged up.
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Yup. I would almost never use Razzball as a guide for making roster decisions. Entertaining stuff, no doubt. But any good info is accidental.
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who do you guys use then????
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I like to read fangraphs. Nice balance with Razzball. Razzball's funny and is updated daily. fangraphs is more informative.I don't really know of any other good sites though.
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Yup. I mainly use fangraphs.

 
So every update I read on Matt Moore assures me of struggles at some point, although he's having a "magical" start to the season. Yes he still throws a lot of pitches and will walk his share, but isn't it possible that the magical start isn't a fluke, and maybe, just maybe he has a really nice season? It's almost like everyone is afraid to say the light bulb is on for good and he'll dominate the entire year. Anyone care to explain why everyone is so afraid to say anything other than what it seems is a be a cautious warning being sent out? :shrug:

 
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So every update I read on Matt Moore assures me of struggles at some point, although he's having a "magical" start to the season. Yes he still throws a lot of pitches and will walk his share, but isn't it possible that the magical start isn't a fluke, and maybe, just maybe he has a really nice season? It's almost like everyone is afraid to say the light bulb is on for good and he'll dominate the entire year. Anyone care to explain why everyone is so afraid to say anything other than what it seems is a be a cautious warning being sent out? :shrug:
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Who are these people? He was pretty good the second half of last season.
 
Premier said:
Billy Bats said:
So every update I read on Matt Moore assures me of struggles at some point, although he's having a "magical" start to the season. Yes he still throws a lot of pitches and will walk his share, but isn't it possible that the magical start isn't a fluke, and maybe, just maybe he has a really nice season? It's almost like everyone is afraid to say the light bulb is on for good and he'll dominate the entire year. Anyone care to explain why everyone is so afraid to say anything other than what it seems is a be a cautious warning being sent out? :shrug:
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Who are these people? He was pretty good the second half of last season.
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Fantasy updates who are scared to jump on the bandwagon I guess. It's not like he's some unknown off to a hot start. The kid is supposed to be this good. (not like you dont know Cap) Maybe they're assuming because he's so young he'll hit a wall, which is entirely possible, I just don't get why everyone seems so hesitant to say he may actually have a dominant year. Wierd. Even on Olney's podcast earlier this week somebody pretty much said this wouldn't continue and they would sell high while they could.
 
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