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*** OFFICIAL New Orleans Saints Thread *** (1 Viewer)

Statement From New Orleans Saints and New Orleans Pelicans Owner/Chairman of the Board Tom Benson



“I am extremely disappointed by the lawsuit filed against me today by my daughter and two grandchildren. Their allegations regarding my mental health are completely meritless and their allegations against my wife equally unfounded. I will vigorously defend my decisions and the businesses I have built. The false accusations in this suit further support the actions I have taken in changing the succession and transfer of ownership. There is a small sign that sits on my desk and simply states "Tough times never last; but tough people do." Make no mistake, I will be back in the office tomorrow morning working hard, as I do every day, to ensure that the Saints and Pelicans are positioned for long-term success. This State, City and our great fans deserve that. I have instructed my staff to have no comment on this lawsuit moving forward.”

TOM BENSON

OWNER/CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD

NEW ORLEANS SAINTS

NEW ORLEANS PELICANS
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I never gave it much thought but Rita could have been the second coming of John Mecom, spoiled, irascible, impulsive, and all the while mismanaging the team and ultimately trying to move it.

There are other rumors flying around, such as this whole thing is really a grab by the LeBlanc family, and also that they had been secretly setting up Benson by recording him.

There is an irrevocable trust involved, secret counter letters, and this is high stakes now because right or wrong NO now hates Rita and it just may be she hates us.

 
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SaintsInDome2006 said:
I never gave it much thought but Rita could have been the second coming of John Mecom, spoiled, irascible, impulsive, and all the while mismanaging the team and ultimately trying to move it.

There are other rumors flying around, such as this whole thing is really a grab by the LeBlanc family, and also that they had been secretly setting up Benson by recording him.

There is an irrevocable trust involved, secret counter letters, and this is high stakes now because right or wrong NO now hates Rita and it just may be she hates us.
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I really feel bad for the guy. On top of dealing with this family drama, he now has to go around acting like he's not senile. That's not easy to do.I wonder how the NFL views this. I know they approved of the succession to Rita a few years ago. If the LeBlanc lawyers prevail, there will definitely be a push to move to San Antonio. Does the league want that? I gotta think they would rather a team on the gulf coast more than another Texas team.

 
psychobillies said:
SaintsInDome2006 said:
I never gave it much thought but Rita could have been the second coming of John Mecom, spoiled, irascible, impulsive, and all the while mismanaging the team and ultimately trying to move it.

There are other rumors flying around, such as this whole thing is really a grab by the LeBlanc family, and also that they had been secretly setting up Benson by recording him.

There is an irrevocable trust involved, secret counter letters, and this is high stakes now because right or wrong NO now hates Rita and it just may be she hates us.
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I really feel bad for the guy. On top of dealing with this family drama, he now has to go around acting like he's not senile. That's not easy to do.I wonder how the NFL views this. I know they approved of the succession to Rita a few years ago. If the LeBlanc lawyers prevail, there will definitely be a push to move to San Antonio. Does the league want that? I gotta think they would rather a team on the gulf coast more than another Texas team.
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It has to be a unique situation for the NFL if they have approved a succession that the owner now reverses and which the courts could reverse back.

The state has plowed so much into the franchise it's ridiculous, it's a dream for the NFL, regional stability and alignment, a great fanbase, a good story (when they're winning) and a star in Brees. If Rita and the snaky LeBlancs win that all changes. I don't think the NFL would want that at all, but on the other hand I don't think they can legitimately keep a team from moving.

We have yet to see the legal response from Benson and our CDC judges are... shall we say... not exactly the most objective people around, they will likely stick up for what keeps the team here one way or the other and back Benson, regardless of the facts, that's my guess. But I think even the facts and the law will hold up for Benson.

 
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So in April of 2014 there was a TP article talking about how the succession was being reconfirmed to the daughter and grandkids. It also confirmed that Gayle was nowhere in the power structure. It's always odd how those articles just get dropped and show up out of nowhere. Why?

But in May of 2012 there was an article saying that Rita was being given all kinds of new responsibility in all phases of the Benson empire.

But this was from just a couple months before, April of 2012, reporting that Rita had been put on a long, long leave:

MISSING IN ACTION - Rita Benson LeBlanc's conspicuous absence at high-profile events leaves some wondering about her future with N.O.'s sports franchisesAmid the pomp and circumstance of Tom Benson's purchase of the New Orleans Hornets, one question remained unanswered.

Where was Rita?

Rita Benson LeBlanc, Saints owner and executive vice president, was nowhere to be found throughout the festivities. She wasn't at the news conference at NBA headquarters in New York to announce the sale. She was the lone Saints executive not in attendance at the Hornets' 85-73 win against Memphis last Sunday night. And she was conspicuously absent from the Saints' entourage at the official introductory news conference at New Orleans Arena last Monday.

The woman widely viewed as the heir to Benson's burgeoning sports empire was MIA.

Where was Rita?

The Saints declined to address LeBlanc's status or whereabouts, citing a policy regarding personnel matters.

Multiple sources, however, say LeBlanc is serving some form of unofficial paid administrative leave, imposed by Benson.

As the executive in charge of the club's sales, marketing and community affairs, LeBlanc's absence at major business events has raised eyebrows around town and in the pro sports industry. Word of her absence has spread in local business circles and reached Baton Rouge, where it's been the topic of discussion among state legislators.

'All over the map'

Benson, according to sources, reached a breaking point near the end of the 2011 season and felt it was necessary to deliver a wake-up call to his 35-year-old granddaughter. No single incident led to the action, they said. Instead, Benson saw it as a pattern of behavior that needed to be corrected.

LeBlanc's reported fall from grace raises questions about the future of the city's two major sports clubs. Benson will turn 85 in July. While he shows no signs of slowing down, he's said he'd eventually like to cede control to someone in the family.

As the only Benson family member directly involved with the team, LeBlanc was his handpicked successor; she's been groomed to be the guardian of the franchise since joining the organization in 2000.

Colleagues and co-workers are quick to compliment LeBlanc for her intelligence, creativity, energy and good taste. However, they're also just as quick to note her lack of focus and abrasive management style, citing the estimated 30 assistants she's gone through in her six-year tenure. She's developed a reputation for stalling projects internally, at Benson Tower and the Mercedes-Benz Superdome. Her penchant for drivers and world travel has irked colleagues and caused some to question her commitment to the job.

Some close to Benson say LeBlanc's sense of entitlement has been a source of conflict with her grandfather, a self-made billionaire from the hardscrabble 7th Ward who shuns the spotlight and still routinely clocks six-day workweeks.

"She's smart and has talent -- but she's just all over the map," said one source, who has worked with LeBlanc. "I think she really enjoys the glitz and glamour of being the owner, but she doesn't really roll up her sleeves and get into the business side of it."

Not at her desk

Since shortly after Super Bowl XLVI in Indianapolis, LeBlanc has not worked regularly out of her office at the club's Metairie training facility and has visited the facility just a handful of times.

The Hornets sale wasn't the only business appointment LeBlanc recently missed.

She hasn't attended either of the latest meetings for the New Orleans Super Bowl Host Committee, on which she serves as an executive board member. She also missed a pair of planning meetings with Louisiana Stadium and Exposition District officials about Champions Square, one of her pet projects. She's also missed meetings of the executive boards of the Business Council of New Orleans and GNO Inc., according to members of the groups.

She has attended a few events in an official team capacity. She was a speaker at the Sports Analytics Conference at MIT in Boston in early March, an event she had committed to well in advance. She also attended the star-studded "A Night to Make It Right" gala, a fundraiser for Brad Pitt's Make It Right Foundation, which attracted a fleet of A-listers including Ellen DeGeneres, Drew Brees, Rihanna, Sean Penn and Josh Brolin. She also attended the NFL owners meetings in Palm Beach, Fla., last month.

"Rita is being prepared to take over for me, and that's why she's attending all of these things," Benson said through team spokesman Greg Bensel. "In five years, I'll be 90 years old."

But the fact that the head of the club's business operations wasn't involved in the largest transaction in franchise history indicates a clear diminishing base of power. This might come as a surprise to fans and New Orleanians who have assumed she'd be the next owner of the city's beloved football franchise.

Media attention

Not long ago, she was being hailed as a rising star in the sports business world. Portfolio magazine and ESPN.com wrote glowing profiles after she was strategically positioned as the face of the franchise in the initial months of the club's return to post-Katrina New Orleans.

When the Saints announced their 2006 schedule at a news conference outside the Superdome, it was a 29-year-old LeBlanc who addressed the media alongside NFL Commissioner Paul Tagliabue.

When the Dome reopened Sept. 25, 2006, she, not Benson, addressed the reporters in attendance.

Street and Smith's SportsBusiness Journal's featured her on its annual "40 Under 40" three times. NBC's "Today Show" profiled her before the 2010 season kickoff game against the Green Bay Packers, referring to her as "one of the most powerful women in professional sports and the youngest, sassiest and sexiest owner of an NFL franchise."

Succession plan on hold?

Technically, LeBlanc's standing in the Saints' corporate tree rests just below her grandfather and above Dennis Lauscha, the team's executive vice president and chief financial officer. She's the only staffer with the owner designation other than Benson, and her bio is displayed directly behind Benson's in the team's media guide.

As the top senior management official, she oversees all business and marketing efforts in the Gulf South region. Her bio in the 2011 media guide says she "supervises the business and administrative operations of the Saints."

But anyone who's done business with the Saints knows Lauscha has emerged as the go-to person. He makes the decisions and the deals, and it looks like that will be the case with the Hornets as well.

At this point, it's unclear whether Benson would turn over control of his empire to a single relative or keep the team in a family trust. In light of LeBlanc's tenuous status, it's fair to suggest the succession plan is on hold. Sources say Benson wants LeBlanc to play a key role in the future of his two franchises. The figurative kick in the pants to his granddaughter was a difficult but necessary means to an end for him.

In the long run, her three-month hiatus could be the best thing for LeBlanc and consequently the Saints.

She can still be the first lady of New Orleans football. But she'll need to change her ways to regain the mantle.

This could be nothing more than a timeout careerwise. Or it could be something much more serious.
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That article is from 4/22/12. Robert Meachem actually made a comment on tv the other night that everyone saw this coming "two years ago" and alluded to the fact that Rita was not very good at getting things done. She appeared to be on track to be an itinerant, poor owner. In the end the NFL can't be too unhappy about this, as inconvenient as it is.

 
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And this is from a more recent article:

...Rita returned to the organization before the start of the Saints' 2012 season and assumed a prominent role as owner/vice chairwoman, but her support had eroded.

Saints coach Sean Payton tried to write a clause into his contract that would have allowed him to sever the deal if general manager Mickey Loomis left the team. The underlying reason: Payton wanted no part of the Saints with Rita owning them and knew she was likely to part ways with Loomis and other executives once in control.

And Payton wasn't alone. Many executives feared for their job security on the day Rita took charge. ...
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The Saints without Payton (and by consequence Loomis) are nothing. It really looks like under Rita they would return to the days of John Mecom, dysfunctional, unguided, a rich girl's plaything, a joke for good teams to roll over and mediocre teams to get better against. No one in NO is for this. I don't think Rita will win but if she does the city itself may revolt.

 
I love the trade honestly. Brees was doing what he does long before JG's arrival. I suspect they will draft a WR with one of their three picks in the top 40.

 
SproutDaddy said:
I love the trade honestly. Brees was doing what he does long before JG's arrival. I suspect they will draft a WR with one of their three picks in the top 40.
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the addition of Unger really helps the offensive unit. Goodwin was a stopgap only for a year. hopefully jahri and grubbs can find their form again.

that leaves us looking for - in no particular order - CB, ILB, OLB, TE, and DT.

 
Sean Payton has actually said he wants a CB, outside/edge rusher and a o-lineman (he may have said tackle).

I think they need WR, RB, & RT.

 
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I seriously don't want to spend a high pick on CB. We've whiffed on that position for as long as I remember. Maybe we sign someone in FA. I'm not opposed to taking White or Cooper if one of them is there. We do need to reinvest in the offense. I agree that we need another RB. I saw something saying Bush was open to coming back. I think he still has game, but I don't trust him to stay healthy.

 
cstu said:
SaintsInDome2006 said:
SproutDaddy said:
I love the trade honestly. Brees was doing what he does long before JG's arrival. I suspect they will draft a WR with one of their three picks in the top 40.
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Was just thinking that, I hope so.
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They better hit on the 1st - not like Meachem. Otherwise it's JG for Unger and a 4th when they could have cut Colston instead and kept him.
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I agree, people here are surprisingly positive about the trade (aside from telling their crying kids Jimmy got traded).

I think they are really hanging on a precipice here.

 
SproutDaddy said:
I seriously don't want to spend a high pick on CB. We've whiffed on that position for as long as I remember. Maybe we sign someone in FA. I'm not opposed to taking White or Cooper if one of them is there. We do need to reinvest in the offense. I agree that we need another RB. I saw something saying Bush was open to coming back. I think he still has game, but I don't trust him to stay healthy.
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They could have had Devonte Freeman last year, that would have been a good pick. Jeremy Hill was staring them in the face too. The drafts have gone to merde. And this turn to the run game (Ingram) and the defense feels like utter bs to me, it's not who they are. And Payton's playcalling has just dried up, what happened to the guy with the reverses and mismatches and flooding the middle. I don't like where this is going.

 
there's been a lot of talk about the cap situation over the past year, and I was kind of blogging their moves, recently, in another thread, as they worked their way under the cap.

so, it just occurs to me that the deadline has actually come and gone and I had thought there were still moves to be made.

I wasn't keeping meticulous track of teh numbers, but are they actually under --- when did they get under the cap?

I didn't hear anything about brees freeing up money, I didn't hear anything about evans --- I thought they were still over.

 
SaintsInDome2006 said:
SproutDaddy said:
I seriously don't want to spend a high pick on CB. We've whiffed on that position for as long as I remember. Maybe we sign someone in FA. I'm not opposed to taking White or Cooper if one of them is there. We do need to reinvest in the offense. I agree that we need another RB. I saw something saying Bush was open to coming back. I think he still has game, but I don't trust him to stay healthy.
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They could have had Devonte Freeman last year, that would have been a good pick. Jeremy Hill was staring them in the face too. The drafts have gone to merde. And this turn to the run game (Ingram) and the defense feels like utter bs to me, it's not who they are. And Payton's playcalling has just dried up, what happened to the guy with the reverses and mismatches and flooding the middle. I don't like where this is going.
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the superbowl run showed what a successful formula looks like. the offense the past few seasons looked good in spurts and the numbers showed up but it wasn't nearly as effective. consistent rushing - Mike Bell, Pierre - gave them play action. play action let them take shots downfield - Meachem, Devery - but also take advantage of other match ups. they took advantage of what the other team gave up in these chess matches. Shockey or Colston in space. Lance Moore in the middle. Pierre on screens. the line and drew dominated.

all of what i described has been mostly missing in subsequent years. we all like the gambling, aggressive payton but he's sucked as a playcaller the past few years. he would be well advised to focus on head coaching duties.

 
12punch said:
there's been a lot of talk about the cap situation over the past year, and I was kind of blogging their moves, recently, in another thread, as they worked their way under the cap.

so, it just occurs to me that the deadline has actually come and gone and I had thought there were still moves to be made.

I wasn't keeping meticulous track of teh numbers, but are they actually under --- when did they get under the cap?

I didn't hear anything about brees freeing up money, I didn't hear anything about evans --- I thought they were still over.
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i haven't heard a peep about drew re-working his contract. i know they were still working to resolve the Evans-Grubbs dilemma. they did get Hawthorne to take a paycut today. shaved like $1.6 million.

 
SproutDaddy said:
I read somewhere that Drew was willing to restructure. Not sure why it hasn't happened.
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I heard/read that too, but also that the Saints did not what to extend him. I hope they don't do something blatantly stupid right now.

I also can't help shake the feeling that the Benson problems are shaking the foundations.

 
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I wasn't keeping meticulous track of teh numbers, but are they actually under --- when did they get under the cap?
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They were under at the start o the league year -- I think the David Hawthorne restructuring was the last piece of the puzzle. Plus, the rnumbers for Colston's weekend restructuring were only made public today, so a lot of third-party salary-cap sources had the Saints with more money against the cap than theu really had.

 
Doug B said:
SaintsInDome2006 said:
SproutDaddy said:
I read somewhere that Drew was willing to restructure. Not sure why it hasn't happened.
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I heard/read that too, but also that the Saints did not want to extend him.
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If Brees were two or three years younger, they'd probably ask him t restructure once and push some money out another year.

If they ask him to restructure now, though, they'd be paying him when he's 40.
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I know I'm talking with my heart not my head here but I really don't want him playing anywhere else.

There were rumors rampant around today about possible trade talks with Miami and TB, I really have to hope that's bs.

 
Just saw the Brees rumors and I'm not sure what to think. In a way it makes sense to trade him and commit to a rebuild. Any local talk to add?

The proposed rumors looked pretty terrible. Moving him to Tampa, Jax, or Cleveland. I'm just chalking it up to gossip talk now, but you never know...

 
Max Power said:
Just saw the Brees rumors and I'm not sure what to think. In a way it makes sense to trade him and commit to a rebuild. Any local talk to add?

The proposed rumors looked pretty terrible. Moving him to Tampa, Jax, or Cleveland. I'm just chalking it up to gossip talk now, but you never know...
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Miami is the other team I heard. The rumors were about Jimmy last year. People are texting randomly around town about stuff they heard. The only other local rumor is that the Benson issues are affecting this, the old man just had his Texas assets seized in San Antonio. It's a lousy ruling and appears totally bs but it happened. Here he had a mental competency exam (3 actually) and the results are hidden. That the turmoil with the team and him is swirling around at the same time like that is troubling.

I will add Brees is very much about personal loyalty on that team, it's a personal thing, players are bonded, but the Saints seem totally willing to eviscerate the bonds he makes that drive the team. I doubt Brees is happy and they're also simultaneously hurting what makes that offense work (or used to work...). I hope I'm wrong and that all gets patched together.

 
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All the talk about underperforming players, bloated contracts and no room against the cap is making everyone deeply paranoid. I mean, if Jimmy is traded then who is safe, right? Brees isn't going anywhere now. It's a converge of bad news all the way around. People are spooked.

ETA - Drew's contract is for two more years. 2016, according to OvertheCap, cutting him saves $20m against the cap. In theory, Drew's playing on a 1 year deal here this season.

 
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I will add Brees is very much about personal loyalty on that team, it's a personal thing, players are bonded, but the Saints seem totally willing to eviscerate the bonds he makes that drive the team. I doubt Brees is happy and they're also simultaneously hurting what makes that offense work (or used to work...). I hope I'm wrong and that all gets patched together.
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Re: the bolded -- you mean Jimmy Graham? Because the offense worked just as well before he arrived.

 
Doug B said:
SaintsInDome2006 said:
I will add Brees is very much about personal loyalty on that team, it's a personal thing, players are bonded, but the Saints seem totally willing to eviscerate the bonds he makes that drive the team. I doubt Brees is happy and they're also simultaneously hurting what makes that offense work (or used to work...). I hope I'm wrong and that all gets patched together.
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Re: the bolded -- you mean Jimmy Graham? Because the offense worked just as well before he arrived.
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The offense had a lot of weapons to spread around to, I don't see that now.

Colston, Shockey, Bush, Pierre, Bell, Meachem, Henderson, Moore. All in their prime (except for Shockey who like Graham had that major ability to stand at the goalline and just catch a TD leaving the DB with nothing to do).

Cooks, Colston (older), Meachem (older), Hill/Watson, Stills, - Ingram and Khiry catching out the backfield doesn't amount to replacing two 70-reception RBs.

I think they need 2 good RBs, at least one good top shelf WR, and another pass catching TE (which maybe be Hill btw, if he improves) to get back to that kind of spread. If they went to a game with this roster today they would look like a whole lot of other teams with pretty weak talent in the pass catching game. Brees put up his usual 5K but it was not the same kind of effectiveness.

 
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Well, they got a 5th for Grubbs. Better than an outright release. They also have an offer to Browner. I hope he accepts it.
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You know what, I got a bad feeling. Who's going there Lelito?

Something is afoot in the background, boys, Payton is not a defensive coach, this does not smell right.

 
SaintsInDome2006 said:
Doug B said:
SaintsInDome2006 said:
I will add Brees is very much about personal loyalty on that team, it's a personal thing, players are bonded, but the Saints seem totally willing to eviscerate the bonds he makes that drive the team. I doubt Brees is happy and they're also simultaneously hurting what makes that offense work (or used to work...). I hope I'm wrong and that all gets patched together.
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Re: the bolded -- you mean Jimmy Graham? Because the offense worked just as well before he arrived.
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The offense had a lot of weapons to spread around to, I don't see that now.

Colston, Shockey, Bush, Pierre, Bell, Meachem, Henderson, Moore. All in their prime (except for Shockey who like Graham had that major ability to stand at the goalline and just catch a TD leaving the DB with nothing to do).

Cooks, Colston (older), Meachem (older), Hill/Watson, Stills, - Ingram and Khiry catching out the backfield doesn't amount to replacing two 70-reception RBs.

I think they need 2 good RBs, at least one good top shelf WR, and another pass catching TE (which maybe be Hill btw, if he improves) to get back to that kind of spread. If they went to a game with this roster today they would look like a whole lot of other teams with pretty weak talent in the pass catching game. Brees put up his usual 5K but it was not the same kind of effectiveness.
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Could coach actually be altering his game plan to a more ground and pound attack?

 
WookieBooger said:
SaintsInDome2006 said:
Doug B said:
SaintsInDome2006 said:
I will add Brees is very much about personal loyalty on that team, it's a personal thing, players are bonded, but the Saints seem totally willing to eviscerate the bonds he makes that drive the team. I doubt Brees is happy and they're also simultaneously hurting what makes that offense work (or used to work...). I hope I'm wrong and that all gets patched together.
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Re: the bolded -- you mean Jimmy Graham? Because the offense worked just as well before he arrived.
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The offense had a lot of weapons to spread around to, I don't see that now.

Colston, Shockey, Bush, Pierre, Bell, Meachem, Henderson, Moore. All in their prime (except for Shockey who like Graham had that major ability to stand at the goalline and just catch a TD leaving the DB with nothing to do).

Cooks, Colston (older), Meachem (older), Hill/Watson, Stills, - Ingram and Khiry catching out the backfield doesn't amount to replacing two 70-reception RBs.

I think they need 2 good RBs, at least one good top shelf WR, and another pass catching TE (which maybe be Hill btw, if he improves) to get back to that kind of spread. If they went to a game with this roster today they would look like a whole lot of other teams with pretty weak talent in the pass catching game. Brees put up his usual 5K but it was not the same kind of effectiveness.
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Could coach actually be altering his game plan to a more ground and pound attack?
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Yes, and I can't believe it's his idea. It doesn't work with Payton, I don't believe he wants to do this. He's basically being force fed a team IMO, but if he does think this is a good idea and if he is doing this then I don't think he can pull it off.

 
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SaintsInDome2006 said:
WookieBooger said:
Just saw that Kenny Stills is being shopped around also. WTH?!
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Something's up with Benson. Fg @#$%^&'s going down I can feel it.
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Total rebuild in the works? Wonder what the going rate for Brees would be.
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I don't know but the city would be in near revolt, no one gets any real press here on the Saints it's just fluff stories. I can see the texts and emails from my family and friends calling to cancel tickets.

 
Max Power said:
SaintsInDome2006 said:
WookieBooger said:
Just saw that Kenny Stills is being shopped around also. WTH?!
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Something's up with Benson. Fg @#$%^&'s going down I can feel it.
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Total rebuild in the works? Wonder what the going rate for Brees would be.
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I firmly believe that wont happen. It Cant. He and the city are linked together.BUT if this does somehow happen, then I have to believe that Benson is trying to tank the franchise to devalue it

 
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SaintsInDome2006 said:
WookieBooger said:
Just saw that Kenny Stills is being shopped around also. WTH?!
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Something's up with Benson. Fg @#$%^&'s going down I can feel it.
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I know what you are saying, but If Loomis is doing all of this, then I have to think it's with Payton's blessing. Those two are joined at the hip, and work closely together. Maybe it's just as simple as Payton picking out the problem children and dumping them one by one. ( I have not heard that Stills or Grubbs have ever been a problem, but maybe they were :shrug: ) If it is a complete meltdown, we should know soon enough. This team absolutely sucked last year, and maybe this is the best way to deal with it.

 
Max Power said:
I tossed this in the Philly thread too

RT @EFCuttin: Eagles and Saints in talks for a swap of G Evan Mathis and WR Kenny Stills...
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If they reemphasize the middle of the line after dumping Grubbs I feel better about things, that's always been the center of their philosophy since day 1. If they leave that gaping hole there then that's a problem.

 
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