LHUCKS
Footballguy
...think Adrian Peterson vs. Chester Taylor.
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**Official Panthers/Eagles On FOX Tonight (game thread) (1 Viewer)
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Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
You're gonna compare ADP to JStew?
LHUCKS
Footballguy
NoYou're gonna compare ADP to JStew?
McNabb had a live arm and looked fairly comfortable today, but I thought he was just a little bit off on several passes. His recievers weren't doing him many favors though. Good, not great.
Every time I see Desean Jackson play I get excited about this kid. It seemed like he was all over the field and constantly finding the holes in the defense. WIll he really be an offensive weapon THIS YEAR??!! It sure looks like it.
Did Hunt do enough to make the coaches think REALLY hard about carrying a fourth RB? Probably not yet...but he's earned a longer look. Moats may not survive the first cut, let alone the last.
McDougle? This cat mighht actually survive the cuts and make the squad. If he doesn't, he's certain to spend virtually zero time on the waiver wire. Good for him. Dude needs a break after all he's been through.
ON Carolina's side....I really didn't see a lot to get excited about. The starting defense lookeed so-so, the starting offense was terrible, and nobody really seemed to stand out in any phase of their game. (Of course, that might have been my green-tinted glasses too!)
Every time I see Desean Jackson play I get excited about this kid. It seemed like he was all over the field and constantly finding the holes in the defense. WIll he really be an offensive weapon THIS YEAR??!! It sure looks like it.
Did Hunt do enough to make the coaches think REALLY hard about carrying a fourth RB? Probably not yet...but he's earned a longer look. Moats may not survive the first cut, let alone the last.
McDougle? This cat mighht actually survive the cuts and make the squad. If he doesn't, he's certain to spend virtually zero time on the waiver wire. Good for him. Dude needs a break after all he's been through.
ON Carolina's side....I really didn't see a lot to get excited about. The starting defense lookeed so-so, the starting offense was terrible, and nobody really seemed to stand out in any phase of their game. (Of course, that might have been my green-tinted glasses too!)
Iwannabeacowboybaby!
Footballguy
Sorry.......HIJACK!
But......Lhucks, did you know that the best athlete of this year went to the Big 10? Go Blue Baby!
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But......Lhucks, did you know that the best athlete of this year went to the Big 10? Go Blue Baby!
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LHUCKS
Footballguy
Sweet...can't wait to chat with you in the swimming forum.
Afro Samurai
Footballguy
As a Saints fan, I like what I'm seeing from the Panthers. 
Iwannabeacowboybaby!
Footballguy
Whatever, don't act like you wouldn't wait for tickets to see him swim behind Kobe Bryant.
Loan Sharks
Not a Wolf
J. Stewart 4 rush 3 yards, impressivo. I am just glad he didn't play a lick.
simey
Footballguy
sholditch
Footballguy
4 carries, 3 yards.
T Bell
Footballguy
at the people ready to shovel dirt on Stewart's grave after 1 preseason game running in the rain behind Carolina's pathetic 2nd string o-line. You sound desperate.I actually buy rotoworld's take on this one, that the main news is that Stewart was out there at all given his recovery from the toe surgery. I'm concerned that that's still an issue, but I'm really not concerned at all about his talent level or his ability to take and hold that job when he's healthy.
jurb26
Footballguy
If Williams had looked even half as bad as Stewart did last night going against Philly's 1st string then I'm sure all of you Stewart hypers would be quick to crush him. Bottom line is this. Williams is the starter and has done nothing thus far to suggest he shouldn't be. Stewart is the backup and has done nothing thus far to suggest he should be more than that.
Traders2001
Footballguy
If Williams had looked even half as bad as Stewart did last night going against Philly's 1st string then I'm sure all of you Stewart hypers would be quick to crush him. Bottom line is this. Williams is the starter and has done nothing thus far to suggest he shouldn't be. Stewart is the backup and has done nothing thus far to suggest he should be more than that.at the people ready to shovel dirt on Stewart's grave after 1 preseason game running in the rain behind Carolina's pathetic 2nd string o-line. You sound desperate.
It s so funny to see the reaction .. Stewart had a bad outing but it s because he was playing with the second string OL but if Williams would have a good outing in the same circumstances they would say he was playing against 2 nd team defense .D Will cant win .....
T Bell
Footballguy
It's always amusing to me how the timeline for the Williams pimps starts in July 2008.If Williams had looked even half as bad as Stewart did last night going against Philly's 1st string then I'm sure all of you Stewart hypers would be quick to crush him. Bottom line is this. Williams is the starter and has done nothing thus far to suggest he shouldn't be. Stewart is the backup and has done nothing thus far to suggest he should be more than that.
zadok
Footballguy
I would just like to say that Heartwork rules.As a Saints fan, I like what I'm seeing from the Panthers.
zadok
Footballguy
They targeted him a whopping 18 times last night. Got to be over 30 targets so far...
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If Williams had looked even half as bad as Stewart did last night going against Philly's 1st string then I'm sure all of you Stewart hypers would be quick to crush him. Bottom line is this. Williams is the starter and has done nothing thus far to suggest he shouldn't be. Stewart is the backup and has done nothing thus far to suggest he should be more than that.
T Bell
Footballguy
That sounds to me like a concerted effort to get him up to speed, which can only bode well for people who drafted him.It continues to be absolutely bizarre to me how the Eagles have failed to acquire WR talent under Reid, with the sole exception being TO of course, when Reid's offense is one of the most pass-happy in the league. Maybe Jackson will change that, but we'll see.
sholditch
Footballguy
at people convinced that he's going to be the starter despite him not being able to actually compete for the job, and nothing from the team or local media suggesting anything of the sort.Carolina is going to suck this year. That's Stewart's best hope for getting significant carries: that the season be over by week 12. Neither one will finish in the top 20.
zadok
Footballguy
They HAVE tried; Moss, Boldin, Chad, Roy Williams this year, Javon Walker in 06, etc.
T Bell
Footballguy
If Williams had looked even half as bad as Stewart did last night going against Philly's 1st string then I'm sure all of you Stewart hypers would be quick to crush him. Bottom line is this. Williams is the starter and has done nothing thus far to suggest he shouldn't be. Stewart is the backup and has done nothing thus far to suggest he should be more than that.It s so funny to see the reaction .. Stewart had a bad outing but it s because he was playing with the second string OL but if Williams would have a good outing in the same circumstances they would say he was playing against 2 nd team defense .
D Will cant win .....
I have no particular bias here. I did draft Stewart based upon his talent, but it does me no good to predict success only to witness failure, which possibility scares me as the team I have him on really does need him to succeed.Both camps are in such a hurry to declare victory, though, that this "discussion" is getting very obscured. This game showed us only that Stewart is back in the lineup. Carolina's starting o-line has question marks, so I have little regard for their backups, especially when facing a team like the Eagles who have made a concerted and successful effort over the course of years to identify and draft d-line talent. They're deep on the d-line while the Panthers are the opposite on the o-line.
I freely acknowledge that Stewart's success is not guaranteed. I also acknowledge Williams is talented and can win the starter's job. You guys need to acknowledge that if Williams was so talented, it's a bit odd that we're wondering whether he'll win that starting job in week 3.
The point here is that we need more time to evaluate this for a number of reasons.
T Bell
Footballguy
Try harder.
T Bell
Footballguy
Where did I say I was convinced Stewart would be the starter this year? Either point me to that statement or keep your straw men to yourself.
sholditch
Footballguy
what you don't get is that DWill doesn't need to win the starting job. He's the incumbent starter. It's on the rook to beat him out of his starting job in camp, which is hard to do when you can't even participate in contact drills. He has two more preseason games to beat out D-Will. Show me the link where Fox says it's an open competition for starting RB.
ETA: Ease up and go stroke your cat
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jurb26
Footballguy
If Williams had looked even half as bad as Stewart did last night going against Philly's 1st string then I'm sure all of you Stewart hypers would be quick to crush him. Bottom line is this. Williams is the starter and has done nothing thus far to suggest he shouldn't be. Stewart is the backup and has done nothing thus far to suggest he should be more than that.at the people ready to shovel dirt on Stewart's grave after 1 preseason game running in the rain behind Carolina's pathetic 2nd string o-line. You sound desperate.
D Will cant win .....I have no particular bias here. I did draft Stewart based upon his talent, but it does me no good to predict success only to witness failure, which possibility scares me as the team I have him on really does need him to succeed.
Both camps are in such a hurry to declare victory, though, that this "discussion" is getting very obscured. This game showed us only that Stewart is back in the lineup. Carolina's starting o-line has question marks, so I have little regard for their backups, especially when facing a team like the Eagles who have made a concerted and successful effort over the course of years to identify and draft d-line talent. They're deep on the d-line while the Panthers are the opposite on the o-line.
I freely acknowledge that Stewart's success is not guaranteed. I also acknowledge Williams is talented and can win the starter's job. You guys need to acknowledge that if Williams was so talented, it's a bit odd that we're wondering whether he'll win that starting job in week 3.
The point here is that we need more time to evaluate this for a number of reasons.
Yeah, no bias at all here. Newsflash... Williams IS the starter. He does not need to win what he already has. Williams will have to loose the starting role by lack of performance or injury. Please point me to even one indicator, other than some fantasy football speculation, that suggest this is even a competition right now.
zadok
Footballguy
Moss took less money to return to NE, they had a deal done with GB for Walker (their 2nd rounder) but at the last moment Denver swooped in with a higher 2nd, Chad and Roy were never on the block, etc.
jurb26
Footballguy
Looks like you beat me to it.
simey
Footballguy
and you are basing this on what?
T Bell
Footballguy
You seem pretty nervous about this then, to be spending so much time debating somebody so misinformed.If Williams had looked even half as bad as Stewart did last night going against Philly's 1st string then I'm sure all of you Stewart hypers would be quick to crush him. Bottom line is this. Williams is the starter and has done nothing thus far to suggest he shouldn't be. Stewart is the backup and has done nothing thus far to suggest he should be more than that.
D Will cant win .....
Both camps are in such a hurry to declare victory, though, that this "discussion" is getting very obscured. This game showed us only that Stewart is back in the lineup. Carolina's starting o-line has question marks, so I have little regard for their backups, especially when facing a team like the Eagles who have made a concerted and successful effort over the course of years to identify and draft d-line talent. They're deep on the d-line while the Panthers are the opposite on the o-line.
I freely acknowledge that Stewart's success is not guaranteed. I also acknowledge Williams is talented and can win the starter's job. You guys need to acknowledge that if Williams was so talented, it's a bit odd that we're wondering whether he'll win that starting job in week 3.
The point here is that we need more time to evaluate this for a number of reasons.
Ease up yourself, chief.
jurb26
Footballguy
You seem pretty nervous about this then, to be spending so much time debating somebody so misinformed.If Williams had looked even half as bad as Stewart did last night going against Philly's 1st string then I'm sure all of you Stewart hypers would be quick to crush him. Bottom line is this. Williams is the starter and has done nothing thus far to suggest he shouldn't be. Stewart is the backup and has done nothing thus far to suggest he should be more than that.
D Will cant win .....
Both camps are in such a hurry to declare victory, though, that this "discussion" is getting very obscured. This game showed us only that Stewart is back in the lineup. Carolina's starting o-line has question marks, so I have little regard for their backups, especially when facing a team like the Eagles who have made a concerted and successful effort over the course of years to identify and draft d-line talent. They're deep on the d-line while the Panthers are the opposite on the o-line.
I freely acknowledge that Stewart's success is not guaranteed. I also acknowledge Williams is talented and can win the starter's job. You guys need to acknowledge that if Williams was so talented, it's a bit odd that we're wondering whether he'll win that starting job in week 3.
The point here is that we need more time to evaluate this for a number of reasons.
No, I'm not nervous at all. Actually I enjoy taking Car's starting RB 2-3 rounds after the backup comes off the board. 
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sholditch
Footballguy
the best source of FF news anywhere: my gut
