***Official Pro Wrestling Thread*** (9 Viewers)

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Spoiler

Austin Aries debuted tonight in NXT

 

[JB Breakfast Club]

Give me the 25/1 on the Undertaker. Unless it's been confirmed he isn't going to be there.....I don't think WM can get realistically get bigger than UT/RR and Lesnar in a 3 Way Main Event for the title.

Had Taker never lost to Lesnar, I'd love to see Reigns/Taker.Vince/WWE completely botched ending his streak when they did. It had become bigger than the world title itself. Streak gone, everything's just another match going forward. I'd be fine never seeing Taker again. There's just nothing left to do there

Completely disagree. Brock Lesnar went from a superstar to an unbeatable monster that night. It passed the unbeatable torch to Brock and took it out of the Mania nest. Whoever finally beats Lesnar clean is made for life.

 

[mr fancypants]

So going off predictions made in this thread, I was thinking about betting on the winner of the Rumble on a betting site for the 1st time. (as I think HHH is a lock to win) .....Then I go to see HHH is the favorite there. Oh well.

Bray is tempting at +450. Just don't think they'd do another Bray/Roman title program so quickly. And debatable if Bray/Lesnar needs a belt involved if they go that way for Mania. (And overall just feel that strongly that HHH comes out with the belt. HHH/Reigns is a lock for Mania.....and there's no way that I see HHH chasing the title for the months leading up to Mania)

Why does Bray/Lesnar not need the belt, but Reigns/HHH would?

I've seen Bray at +1500. Bovada has the following odds:

Triple H – 6/5

Roman Reigns – 9/5

Brock Lesnar – 3/1

Bray Wyatt – 15/1

The Rock – 16/1

Daniel Bryan – 18/1

Dean Ambrose – 20/1

Kevin Owens – 20/1

The Undertaker – 25/1

Rusev – 33/1

Sheamus – 33/1

Braun Strowman – 33/1

AJ Styles – 33/1

Ryback – 35/1

Finn Balor – 40/1

Cesaro – 40/1

Dolph Ziggler – 40/1

Alberto Del Rio – 50/1

Chris Jericho – 50/1

Randy Orton – 50/1

Vince or Shane McMahon- 65/1

Kalisto – 66/1

Neville – 75/1

The Big Show – 80/1

Mark Henry – 95/1

New Day-100/1

Kane-100/1

Harper or Rowan-100/1

Social Outcasts-150/1

Stardust-150/1

King Barrett-150/1

Miz-200/1

Stone Cold-250/1

Its funny that a few of the higher bets are almost certain to not be healthy enough to compete. I can't help but feel bad for Miz. Guy was the WWE champion at this time 5 years ago, now he's a bigger longshot than Adam Rose. Also for Tyler Breeze, who wasn't even on the list.

Unbelievable that you guys are taking odds on a predetermined match

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

Give me the 25/1 on the Undertaker. Unless it's been confirmed he isn't going to be there.....I don't think WM can get realistically get bigger than UT/RR and Lesnar in a 3 Way Main Event for the title.

Had Taker never lost to Lesnar, I'd love to see Reigns/Taker.Vince/WWE completely botched ending his streak when they did. It had become bigger than the world title itself. Streak gone, everything's just another match going forward. I'd be fine never seeing Taker again. There's just nothing left to do there

Completely disagree. Brock Lesnar went from a superstar to an unbeatable monster that night. It passed the unbeatable torch to Brock and took it out of the Mania nest. Whoever finally beats Lesnar clean is made for life.

I don't disagree with you regarding Lesnar.

I mean from Taker's standpoint (and continuing to trot him out for Mania after the streak). I don't end the streak.....and then continue to trot him out there for the sake of trotting him out there. The only match that was left for him was a Mania rematch with Lesnar to avenge the loss. The initial match (whatever the issue was with Taker) was so bad I'm not sure that they just decided against it completely. There's nothing left for him to do out there. The allure of his undefeated streak at Mania (which undeniably was more important than the title match at Mania) is completely gone. W/o the streak on the line, Taker vs. Wyatt at Mania 31 meant little (and Taker going over did nothing for either). They're already scrambling cluelessly who Taker will face at Mania 32. Wish he'd just retire personally.

 

[Courtjester]

Like I suggested earlier, let Taker win the rumble. Limit his defenses on the title between now and WM (have the Wyatts interfere in matches causing DQs, etc) then do a 3-way match at WM with RR and Brock. Brock and RR can do the heavy lifting in the match while Taker picks his spots. RR leaves with the Belt (crowd may sort of give some respect to that outcome). Brock goes back to being part-time. UT leaves on the biggest stage beaten, but with the proper swan song.

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

LOL So much for the anti-bullying campaigns.....

Source: F4WOnline

We've noted how WWE Tough Enough winner Josh Bredl, now using the name Bronson Mathews in WWE NXT, picked up a bunch of developmental and main roster heat after referring to the Social Outcasts stable as "jobbers" on Twitter this past week. The feeling was that Bredl disrespected the Social Outcasts when he didn't have the right to, because he came into the company via Tough Enough and with a sweet $250,000 contract.

The heat on Bredl right now is said to be tremendous. Dave Meltzer noted on Wrestling Observer Live that Bredl has a lot more heat than people think. There's already resentment that he is making more money than everyone else in developmental and the Twitter incident did not help.

We also noted how things could get interesting for Bredl on Sunday as the NXT roster is set to be backstage for the Royal Rumble in Orlando. For what it's worth, there are people in the company who want Bredl to be put into the Rumble for what could be a "hazing" of sorts. As of Thursday, there was still talk of having Bredl be in the 30-man main event. A similar situation happened with WWE Tough Enough winner Daniel Puder at the 2005 Rumble. Puder had embarrassed Kurt Angle a few months earlier during a WWE TV taping and this led to Eddie Guerrero, Chris Benoit and Hardcore Holly "punishing" him in the Rumble, which was Puder's last WWE TV appearance before being released later that year.

 

[Tom Servo]

 

[Tom Servo]

TNA claims they had an agreement with AJ Styles and the Bullet Club?

 

[KiddLattimer]

I bag on WWE a lot but I gotta say Im really looking forward to tonights show... Hope its a good one

 

[Tom Servo]

So Brian Fury has been wrestling since 1999, has trained both Sasha Banks and last year's ROH Top Prospect tournament winner, yet has fight in this year's tourney to get an ROH contract?

Also, it's great that the tourney winner gets a TV title shot.

 

[Tom Servo]

Veda Scott gives me a booner.

 

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So Brian Fury has been wrestling since 1999, has trained both Sasha Banks and last year's ROH Top Prospect tournament winner, yet has fight in this year's tourney to get an ROH contract?

Also, it's great that the tourney winner gets a TV title shot.

Love the Top Prospect. Donovan Dijak has all the tools to be a star once he grows into a character. He's had some great matches throughout the northeast in the last year.

 

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I really have no interest in the Royal Rumble PPV other than the Rumble match itself. Even then, I am more interested in the match than the result. No way it ever happens but I would love to see Brock/Reigns/#29 all eliminated before #30 comes out and then a free for all of every wrestler left in the building trying to get into the ring to become the WWE Champion. It sounds a little (a lot?) TNAish but WWE booking hasn't done anything to capture my attention in a long while.

 

[Tom Servo]

http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/Wrestling_Legend_Archie_The_Mongolian_Stomper_Gouldie_Passes_Away.html

The Mongolian Stomper passed away yesterday.

 

[KiddLattimer]

I really have no interest in the Royal Rumble PPV other than the Rumble match itself. Even then, I am more interested in the match than the result. No way it ever happens but I would love to see Brock/Reigns/#29 all eliminated before #30 comes out and then a free for all of every wrestler left in the building trying to get into the ring to become the WWE Champion. It sounds a little (a lot?) TNAish but WWE booking hasn't done anything to capture my attention in a long while.

KO/Ambrose last man standing sounds amazing even though they've not done a ton to promote it

 

[1234]

I really have no interest in the Royal Rumble PPV other than the Rumble match itself. Even then, I am more interested in the match than the result. No way it ever happens but I would love to see Brock/Reigns/#29 all eliminated before #30 comes out and then a free for all of every wrestler left in the building trying to get into the ring to become the WWE Champion. It sounds a little (a lot?) TNAish but WWE booking hasn't done anything to capture my attention in a long while.

KO/Ambrose last man standing sounds amazing even though they've not done a ton to promote it

That's the problem. LMS should be a feud-ending battle but WWE hasn't made this a personal war as much as a throwaway match buried behind the main storyline of the Rumble match. Ambrose is being neutered at every turn as WWE straps the rocket to Reigns and KO is sort of just there right now. Both are extremely talented but both are spinning their wheels.

 

[KiddLattimer]

I really have no interest in the Royal Rumble PPV other than the Rumble match itself. Even then, I am more interested in the match than the result. No way it ever happens but I would love to see Brock/Reigns/#29 all eliminated before #30 comes out and then a free for all of every wrestler left in the building trying to get into the ring to become the WWE Champion. It sounds a little (a lot?) TNAish but WWE booking hasn't done anything to capture my attention in a long while.

KO/Ambrose last man standing sounds amazing even though they've not done a ton to promote it

That's the problem. LMS should be a feud-ending battle but WWE hasn't made this a personal war as much as a throwaway match buried behind the main storyline of the Rumble match. Ambrose is being neutered at every turn as WWE straps the rocket to Reigns and KO is sort of just there right now. Both are extremely talented but both are spinning their wheels.

I think they have big plans for KO... wouldnt surprise me if KO walks out with the WWE Championship tonight. They definitely have the brakes on Ambrose but its understandable I guess since he's Reigns buddy.

 

[dschuler]

Calling for the Donald as a surprise entrant into the Royal Rumble

 

[RBM]

Triple H is a lock imo.

They couldn't wait until next week to do this? Poor planning Vince.

 

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WWE needs to hire Mike Carey as a ref. It writes itself.

 

[JB Breakfast Club]

I really have no interest in the Royal Rumble PPV other than the Rumble match itself. Even then, I am more interested in the match than the result. No way it ever happens but I would love to see Brock/Reigns/#29 all eliminated before #30 comes out and then a free for all of every wrestler left in the building trying to get into the ring to become the WWE Champion. It sounds a little (a lot?) TNAish but WWE booking hasn't done anything to capture my attention in a long while.

KO/Ambrose last man standing sounds amazing even though they've not done a ton to promote it

That's the problem. LMS should be a feud-ending battle but WWE hasn't made this a personal war as much as a throwaway match buried behind the main storyline of the Rumble match. Ambrose is being neutered at every turn as WWE straps the rocket to Reigns and KO is sort of just there right now. Both are extremely talented but both are spinning their wheels.

They had multiple segments for multiple weeks, including table spots.

ADR vs kalisto is going to be rad.

Women's title has their most interesting match up in years.

New Day hopefully bury those Uso nerds.

 

[Deranged Hermit]

WWE needs to hire Mike Carey as a ref. It writes itself.

Just talking to my wife and kids about that not more than an hour ago. They're going to lose a lot of viewers unless the game is a laugher early.

 

[RBM]

I really have no interest in the Royal Rumble PPV other than the Rumble match itself. Even then, I am more interested in the match than the result. No way it ever happens but I would love to see Brock/Reigns/#29 all eliminated before #30 comes out and then a free for all of every wrestler left in the building trying to get into the ring to become the WWE Champion. It sounds a little (a lot?) TNAish but WWE booking hasn't done anything to capture my attention in a long while.

KO/Ambrose last man standing sounds amazing even though they've not done a ton to promote it

That's the problem. LMS should be a feud-ending battle but WWE hasn't made this a personal war as much as a throwaway match buried behind the main storyline of the Rumble match. Ambrose is being neutered at every turn as WWE straps the rocket to Reigns and KO is sort of just there right now. Both are extremely talented but both are spinning their wheels.

They had multiple segments for multiple weeks, including table spots.

Yeah I think the KO-Ambrose feud has carried the show the last month. Can't wait for that tonight.

 

[bosoxs45]

I wonder if AJ Styles will make his debut tonight.

 

[Courtjester]

wow going to be hard to do my normal RR thing---lots of beer after the Bronco win

 

[dschuler]

WWE needs to hire Mike Carey as a ref. It writes itself.

Then they could have controversial 3 counts or submissions and have Vince or HHH come out there and tell them to redo the match.

 

[Courtjester]

From this point forward spoilers and lots of Misspellings

SO GO away if you don't like ut

 

[Courtjester]

And away we go

 

[Courtjester]

Opening match last man standing Ambrose vs Owens

 

[Courtjester]

Ohhh kiss of death====the French announcing table and the Mexican announcing table previewed

 

[Courtjester]

Michael Cole down

 

[Courtjester]

Kendo stick by Ambrose

If this was old WWE that would have had barbed wire on it

 

[Courtjester]

I have Owens body,,,,I am going to apply for the WWE

 

[Courtjester]

Tugboat is in the ring,,,,,OMG!!!

Wait....I am tooo early for that,

Back to the match---lots of chairs in the ring

 

[Courtjester]

"This is awesome" has been cheapened---just saying

 

[Courtjester]

Ambrose just threw a chair at Owens and it got stuck on his face---never seen that before

 

[Courtjester]

And followed by "Holy So&&:" as the most overused and underserving phrase.

In my day....wrestlers used to....well that was cool...off the top rope major cool spot

 

[Jeremy]

That was glorious. Going to be a tough act to follow.

 

[Courtjester]

Owens just thrown off the top rope into the 2 stacked tables-Ambrose winss

 

[Tiger Fan]

solid match

 

[Courtjester]

New Day vs Uso next.....

and the trombone is alive and Frachesca 2 is born

 

[Courtjester]

Maybe I can catch 20-30 minutes of sleep during this one

 

[modogg]

So going off predictions made in this thread, I was thinking about betting on the winner of the Rumble on a betting site for the 1st time. (as I think HHH is a lock to win) .....Then I go to see HHH is the favorite there. Oh well.

Bray is tempting at +450. Just don't think they'd do another Bray/Roman title program so quickly. And debatable if Bray/Lesnar needs a belt involved if they go that way for Mania. (And overall just feel that strongly that HHH comes out with the belt. HHH/Reigns is a lock for Mania.....and there's no way that I see HHH chasing the title for the months leading up to Mania)

Why does Bray/Lesnar not need the belt, but Reigns/HHH would?

I've seen Bray at +1500. Bovada has the following odds:

Triple H – 6/5

Roman Reigns – 9/5

Brock Lesnar – 3/1

Bray Wyatt – 15/1

The Rock – 16/1

Daniel Bryan – 18/1

Dean Ambrose – 20/1

Kevin Owens – 20/1

The Undertaker – 25/1

Rusev – 33/1

Sheamus – 33/1

Braun Strowman – 33/1

AJ Styles – 33/1

Ryback – 35/1

Finn Balor – 40/1

Cesaro – 40/1

Dolph Ziggler – 40/1

Alberto Del Rio – 50/1

Chris Jericho – 50/1

Randy Orton – 50/1

Vince or Shane McMahon- 65/1

Kalisto – 66/1

Neville – 75/1

The Big Show – 80/1

Mark Henry – 95/1

New Day-100/1

Kane-100/1

Harper or Rowan-100/1

Social Outcasts-150/1

Stardust-150/1

King Barrett-150/1

Miz-200/1

Stone Cold-250/1

Its funny that a few of the higher bets are almost certain to not be healthy enough to compete. I can't help but feel bad for Miz. Guy was the WWE champion at this time 5 years ago, now he's a bigger longshot than Adam Rose. Also for Tyler Breeze, who wasn't even on the list.

Unbelievable that you guys are taking odds on a predetermined match

if money can be made, it should be. i went to one of my sportsbooks to place a bet, and pretty much can tell you who is likely to win based on the odds i just saw

ETA. i suck at making spoiler tags, but somebody is now -2000. that means i need to bet $2000 to win 100. so this guy will win. if i can figure out how to spoiler tags again i'll put it here

 

[KiddLattimer]

That was glorious. Going to be a tough act to follow.

So, so, so good

 

[Courtjester]

Kalisto and ADR going at it..Kalisto takes the belt.

Not technically a solid match IMO

 

[KiddLattimer]

I love the announcers saying things like "I cant believe it" or "Kalisto is champ, never thought I would say that!"

Um, fellas... it happened like 2 weeks ago

 

[Courtjester]

Becky and Charolette next

 

[Courtjester]

Crowd fairly into it, If I am betting man, I wonder if we will see someone come in and help Becky when Flair intervenes

 

[Courtjester]

Charolette wins with Flair's help and Sasha comes down and hits Becky to add insult to injury then Sasha attacks Charolette.

 

[Jeremy]

Really good show so far. Hopefully the main event delivers.