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***Official Rap/Hip Hop Discussion Thread*** (1 Viewer)

Gonna do a quick 4:44 live opinion of these as I listen thru em.

1. Kill Jay-Z: Solid opener. Beat picks up hard a minute in. Easy to vibe with from there on.

2. The Story of O.J.:. Typical Jay talking about money. Solid flowing bassline on this though. Nice mellowed out beat. Decent.

3. Smile: Meh. Not my cup of tea. Yeah, that all I got on this.

4. Caught Their Eyes: Again, not my thing here, but still slightly better than the last track.

5. 4:44, title track: It's decent. This is def the most classically Jay sounding track on the album with the soul sample in the back. Lot of story here...which I mostly don't really give a f*** about personally, but still pretty good.

6. Family Feud: Getting back to some decent stuff I can groove with. Some good background vocal/sample here, especially toward the end.

7. Bam: Start off with some rando reggae guy, Jay come in. Reggae guy is back for a moment mid-track and at the end. Honestly I like the reggae dude better than Jay. So I guess a thumbs down.

8. Moonlight: Nah, just nah to this one. Beat is super low key, and Jay is like trying to be overly artistic, almost like Drake vocals kind of just mumble singing stuff along.

9. Marcy Me: This was pretty good. Nice pinging piano making up the instrumental. Don't know who backing him on the vocals, but it's dope. Really dope. Like it a lot.

10. Legacy: Slow jazz instrumental to close things out. Main thing holding this track up. Jay just kind of saying stuff here, rambling. Not bad for the outro.

Overall thoughts: Decent. About what I would expect from Jay at this point. He not trying to set the rap world on fire anymore. Decent album overall. Def not his worst.

 
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ShamrockPride said:
Gonna do a quick 4:44 live opinion of these as I listen thru em.

1. Kill Jay-Z: Solid opener. Beat picks up hard a minute in. Easy to vibe with from there on.

2. The Story of O.J.:. Typical Jay talking about money. Solid flowing bassline on this though. Nice mellowed out beat. Decent.

3. Smile: Meh. Not my cup of tea. Yeah, that all I got on this.

4. Caught Their Eyes: Again, not my thing here, but still slightly better than the last track.

5. 4:44, title track: It's decent. This is def the most classically Jay sounding track on the album with the soul sample in the back. Lot of story here...which I mostly don't really give a f*** about personally, but still pretty good.

6. Family Feud: Getting back to some decent stuff I can groove with. Some good background vocal/sample here, especially toward the end.

7. Bam: Start off with some rando reggae guy, Jay come in. Reggae guy is back for a moment mid-track and at the end. Honestly I like the reggae dude better than Jay. So I guess a thumbs down.

8. Moonlight: Nah, just nah to this one. Beat is super low key, and Jay is like trying to be overly artistic, almost like Drake vocals kind of just mumble singing stuff along.

9. Marcy Me: This was pretty good. Nice pinging piano making up the instrumental. Don't know who backing him on the vocals, but it's dope. Really dope. Like it a lot.

10. Legacy: Slow jazz instrumental to close things out. Main thing holding this track up. Jay just kind of saying stuff here, rambling. Not bad for the outro.

Overall thoughts: Decent. About what I would expect from Jay at this point. He not trying to set the rap world on fire anymore. Decent album overall. Def not his worst.
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4:44 is a mediocre album. 2/5 stars for me. 

Random reggae guy is junior gong though. Marley's son. Pretty popular dude. That's by far my favorite track on the album. 

 
Good Posting Judge said:
Don't think so. Meth, Rae, Red, Deck, Masta Killah (?)
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Bolded is who I thought might have gotten a Ghost verse. 

Yeah, didn't look like Ghost at all. Not even close. Was wondering about the low light and Rae's weight, apparently. Just not even close. I know Ghost's look, his vibe, his overall ouvre, and that rhyme sounded so much like him. I was also dnurk and knew Ghost had had problems in the past getting back with Wu for whatever reason, so that didn't help.  

Kind of hoping Ghost cuts some new ####, really.  

eta* Here's his new ####, apparently. Cryptocurrency. http://www.investopedia.com/news/wutang-clans-ghostface-killah-launch-cryptocurrency/

 
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rockaction said:
Yeah, was wondering. One took his rhyme scheme. Sounded like a Ghost thing. Interesting. U God maybe for the fifth?  
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masta killa is the last one.

ghost and raekwon have always been very similar.  just aurally, I find them hard to distinguish sometimes.  Ghost has a higher voice, but the flow and rhyme schemes have always been very similar.

 
Long Ball Larry said:
masta killa is the last one.

ghost and raekwon have always been very similar.  just aurally, I find them hard to distinguish sometimes.  Ghost has a higher voice, but the flow and rhyme schemes have always been very similar.
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Thanks. I'm more of a Ghost fan, and never really noted the similarities.  I knew it wasn't Ghost, but it sounded so much like him...

 
hey, can you guys send out a smoke signal next time wu-tang clan chat is activated?  TIA, YIC, GB GZA.

 
Good Posting Judge said:
Not that I disagree with any of the feelings/opinions expressed therein...but that Eminem verse kinda sucked, right? It's not just me? 
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Didn't even listen. Every time art gets that explicitly political...it tends to suck.  Addressing broader themes through induction or deduction. Yes. Addressing directly is often like the problem Jello Biafra got into with Frankenchrist on. Bor-ing lecture.

Even the worst song off of Toxicity by System Of A Down did that.   

 
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rockaction said:
Didn't even listen. Every time art gets that explicitly political...it tends to suck.  Addressing broader themes through induction or deduction. Yes. Addressing directly is often like the problem Jello Biafra got into with Frankenchrist on. Bor-ing lecture.

Even the worst song off of Toxicity by System Of A Down did that.   
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think you are right for the most part, but there are exceptions like propagandhi's "less talk more rock."

 
This is from earlier in the year but a friend recently turned me onto it and I can't get enough of it. When Weebs and Rappers collide.

 
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Good Posting Judge said:
Or PE.
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I always thought Propagandhi and PE were great, too. 

Just don't think they ever addressed specific targets. Broader themes, it seemed. Like Plastic Surgery Disasters was a great album by the Dead Kennedys, and explicitly political, too. 

It just seems like direct targets make for bad art.  

 
Full Wu album dropped today.  That single seems like the best song in first pass, though admit that I was not paying full attention.  The interludes sound cool.

@Jaysus  !!! 

I'm going to chop off your arm

 
Long Ball Larry said:
Full Wu album dropped today.  That single seems like the best song in first pass, though admit that I was not paying full attention.  The interludes sound cool.

@Jaysus  !!! 

I'm going to chop off your arm
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So it is a dedicated Mathematics album, huh?  I wonder if that means there is a lot of Ghost.

 
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