***Official Seattle Seahawks Offseason Thread 2008*** (1 Viewer)

[mad sweeney]

As a Seahawk fan I must say I really like the defense this year....its actually the offense which worries me. The hawks don't have a TRUE #1 WR. Maybe Hackett can develop into that guy Alexander is on his last legs IMO....I hope the Hawks get some offense in the draft next year.

You're nuts. His last legs? He reported to camp in better condition than in any other camp. He might have started the backside of his career but his last legs won't come for a few more years.

He is 31 ....... I didn't mean his career is over....It would benifit Alexander to have another RB there next year to help w/ the carries.

He turns 30 in 5 days. What else does last legs mean? Marshall Faulk and Curtis Martin were on their last legs.

And Weaver is supposed to help in spelling SA as well.

I'm sure that RB will be addressed next year as a natural progression but that doesn't have any bearing on this year.

You don't need a true #1 WR. The Pats have never had one, we didn't when Koren was producing. The WCO spreads the ball around.

I think he means last legs as in 'Eddie George last legs', i.e., slower, looks like he's running in mud..George fell to pieces his last few seasons. Faulk burned out , too..Ricky Watters broke down...Rodney Hampton fell apart , and injuries took their toll...Emmitt Smith looked terrible in Az..thats what I think he meant, that SA *could* be like one of the above...

I don't think he knew what he was talking about, just like his age. SA has been the highest scoring back in the league and had one injury shortened season. Lets let him pla real football games first before we stick a fork in him or start comparing him to others. I'm going with 1400+ and 15-17 TDs. His last legs will come but not for a few years.

nygaints56 gets it I guess you haven't heard the term before....Im sorry. So I was a year off with his age.....that makes my crap?

10games 252carries 896yards 3.6avg 7 TD's SA's stats from last year. I live in Seattle and watched every seahawk game and he did not look impressive to me.

65 carries 187 yards rushing 2 TD's his numbers pre injury ..... not impressive

I would really question your 1400+ and 15-17TDs.....I would take the under on that for sure.

Instead of bumping the whole thread I decided to post this conversation. Alexander

I find it funny that you talk trash on him a year after you defended him so much.

Perhaps he watched Alexander play the last year and changed his mind. It was a wholly unimpressive year from preseason on through. Before and after he hurt his wrist.

 

[cacksman]

Perhaps he watched Alexander play the last year and changed his mind. It was a wholly unimpressive year from preseason on through. Before and after he hurt his wrist.

Before he hurt his wrist he had 2 out of 3 100+ yard games. Not bad.

 

[mad sweeney]

Perhaps he watched Alexander play the last year and changed his mind. It was a wholly unimpressive year from preseason on through. Before and after he hurt his wrist.

Before he hurt his wrist he had 2 out of 3 100+ yard games. Not bad.

Stats dont' tell everything. He looked like crap, tentative, no push and no digging in for short yardage runs, plus he dropped near everything thrown his way. And the Cincy "100 yards" is a joke. After 58 minutes he had only 58 yards and busted 2 lucky long ones on his last 4 carries of the game (the other 2 were for no gain). Until then he was 17/58, and he still got no gain on 2 of his last 4 carries. And the second of those two runs wouldn't have even happened if the Bengals hadn't fumbled the KO return. I's one of the weakest 100 yard games any RB has ever had.You gotta look at more than just the stat line.

 

[cacksman]

Perhaps he watched Alexander play the last year and changed his mind. It was a wholly unimpressive year from preseason on through. Before and after he hurt his wrist.

Before he hurt his wrist he had 2 out of 3 100+ yard games. Not bad.

Stats dont' tell everything. He looked like crap, tentative, no push and no digging in for short yardage runs, plus he dropped near everything thrown his way. And the Cincy "100 yards" is a joke. After 58 minutes he had only 58 yards and busted 2 lucky long ones on his last 4 carries of the game (the other 2 were for no gain). Until then he was 17/58, and he still got no gain on 2 of his last 4 carries. And the second of those two runs wouldn't have even happened if the Bengals hadn't fumbled the KO return. I's one of the weakest 100 yard games any RB has ever had.You gotta look at more than just the stat line.

In case you didnt know.. I watch every Seahawk game. I look at more than stats.SA looked pretty good during the first 3 weeks of the season before his injury and 2 lucky runs? Are you kidding me? You cant take away a RBs best runs and say "look what he did other than that". Everyone besides you know that is rediculous. Those runs came at the most important time in the game, when Seattle was trying to keep the ball away from Cincy's offense.

 

[mad sweeney]

Perhaps he watched Alexander play the last year and changed his mind. It was a wholly unimpressive year from preseason on through. Before and after he hurt his wrist.

Before he hurt his wrist he had 2 out of 3 100+ yard games. Not bad.

Stats dont' tell everything. He looked like crap, tentative, no push and no digging in for short yardage runs, plus he dropped near everything thrown his way. And the Cincy "100 yards" is a joke. After 58 minutes he had only 58 yards and busted 2 lucky long ones on his last 4 carries of the game (the other 2 were for no gain). Until then he was 17/58, and he still got no gain on 2 of his last 4 carries. And the second of those two runs wouldn't have even happened if the Bengals hadn't fumbled the KO return. I's one of the weakest 100 yard games any RB has ever had.You gotta look at more than just the stat line.

In case you didnt know.. I watch every Seahawk game. I look at more than stats.SA looked pretty good during the first 3 weeks of the season before his injury and 2 lucky runs? Are you kidding me? You cant take away a RBs best runs and say "look what he did other than that". Everyone besides you know that is rediculous. Those runs came at the most important time in the game, when Seattle was trying to keep the ball away from Cincy's offense.

No he didn't. He was crap in the Cincy game. I'm not saying take away his best runs, but he was a complete non factor until the last 1:47 of the game. Wouldn't have been close if he could run worth a damn for the first 90% of the game. Yes, they were big runs at crunch time, but they were in no way indicative of a good game by a RB. One was a lucky bounce out on 4th and 1 where the entire Bengals D was on the line and he got caught from behind. The funny thing is that everyone except (but including the Seahawks) you knows SA was crap the last season and is getting cut because of it. As in no longer on the team. The team didn't bring in 2 lackluster FAs to compete with SA for no reason. They're getting rid of his tired, complacent waste of a roster space. But hey, I guess you saw a different game or just plain know more than everyone else including the team that he practices and plays with.

 

[cacksman]

Perhaps he watched Alexander play the last year and changed his mind. It was a wholly unimpressive year from preseason on through. Before and after he hurt his wrist.

Before he hurt his wrist he had 2 out of 3 100+ yard games. Not bad.

Stats dont' tell everything. He looked like crap, tentative, no push and no digging in for short yardage runs, plus he dropped near everything thrown his way. And the Cincy "100 yards" is a joke. After 58 minutes he had only 58 yards and busted 2 lucky long ones on his last 4 carries of the game (the other 2 were for no gain). Until then he was 17/58, and he still got no gain on 2 of his last 4 carries. And the second of those two runs wouldn't have even happened if the Bengals hadn't fumbled the KO return. I's one of the weakest 100 yard games any RB has ever had.You gotta look at more than just the stat line.

In case you didnt know.. I watch every Seahawk game. I look at more than stats.SA looked pretty good during the first 3 weeks of the season before his injury and 2 lucky runs? Are you kidding me? You cant take away a RBs best runs and say "look what he did other than that". Everyone besides you know that is rediculous. Those runs came at the most important time in the game, when Seattle was trying to keep the ball away from Cincy's offense.

No he didn't. He was crap in the Cincy game. I'm not saying take away his best runs, but he was a complete non factor until the last 1:47 of the game. Wouldn't have been close if he could run worth a damn for the first 90% of the game. Yes, they were big runs at crunch time, but they were in no way indicative of a good game by a RB. One was a lucky bounce out on 4th and 1 where the entire Bengals D was on the line and he got caught from behind. The funny thing is that everyone except (but including the Seahawks) you knows SA was crap the last season and is getting cut because of it. As in no longer on the team. The team didn't bring in 2 lackluster FAs to compete with SA for no reason. They're getting rid of his tired, complacent waste of a roster space. But hey, I guess you saw a different game or just plain know more than everyone else including the team that he practices and plays with.

He is getting cut because he is overpaid, has problems with catching the ball, and needs a FB in front of him to be successful. Seattle is going away from that type of offense so they brought in other RBs that fit the system better. All I am saying is that before the injury, he was on pace to have a productive season. You have never liked SA, not even when he was one of the best, if not the best in the league. I dont even know why I argue with you about it.

 

[mad sweeney]

Perhaps he watched Alexander play the last year and changed his mind. It was a wholly unimpressive year from preseason on through. Before and after he hurt his wrist.

Before he hurt his wrist he had 2 out of 3 100+ yard games. Not bad.

Stats dont' tell everything. He looked like crap, tentative, no push and no digging in for short yardage runs, plus he dropped near everything thrown his way. And the Cincy "100 yards" is a joke. After 58 minutes he had only 58 yards and busted 2 lucky long ones on his last 4 carries of the game (the other 2 were for no gain). Until then he was 17/58, and he still got no gain on 2 of his last 4 carries. And the second of those two runs wouldn't have even happened if the Bengals hadn't fumbled the KO return. I's one of the weakest 100 yard games any RB has ever had.You gotta look at more than just the stat line.

In case you didnt know.. I watch every Seahawk game. I look at more than stats.SA looked pretty good during the first 3 weeks of the season before his injury and 2 lucky runs? Are you kidding me? You cant take away a RBs best runs and say "look what he did other than that". Everyone besides you know that is rediculous. Those runs came at the most important time in the game, when Seattle was trying to keep the ball away from Cincy's offense.

No he didn't. He was crap in the Cincy game. I'm not saying take away his best runs, but he was a complete non factor until the last 1:47 of the game. Wouldn't have been close if he could run worth a damn for the first 90% of the game. Yes, they were big runs at crunch time, but they were in no way indicative of a good game by a RB. One was a lucky bounce out on 4th and 1 where the entire Bengals D was on the line and he got caught from behind. The funny thing is that everyone except (but including the Seahawks) you knows SA was crap the last season and is getting cut because of it. As in no longer on the team. The team didn't bring in 2 lackluster FAs to compete with SA for no reason. They're getting rid of his tired, complacent waste of a roster space. But hey, I guess you saw a different game or just plain know more than everyone else including the team that he practices and plays with.

He is getting cut because he is overpaid, has problems with catching the ball, and needs a FB in front of him to be successful. Seattle is going away from that type of offense so they brought in other RBs that fit the system better. All I am saying is that before the injury, he was on pace to have a productive season. You have never liked SA, not even when he was one of the best, if not the best in the league. I dont even know why I argue with you about it.

Ture, I never liked him but I gave him full credit and props for the 04 and 05 season. Because he did the little things, because he tried, becuase he played ball like he wanted to win. All that disappeared when he got his dollar bills. Hell, I even predicted him to have a top ten season this time last year, giving him the benefit of the doubt for his injured season. But he sucks, the team knows it, most of the SP knows it, most of the Seattle fans know it, almost everyone but you knows it.

 

[Enforcer]

1.28 DE Lawrence Jackson USC

The Good: Jackson is a mobile, strong athlete who uses his strength to battle bigger tackles. He combines good technique, power and quickness with a relentless attitude to pressure the passer effectively. He has been effective in run support despite marginal size.The Bad: Lacks the burst of speed needed to be an elite edge rusher. Gets caught up with blockers at times and gets “washed out” of too many plays to his side. He can struggle facing double-team blocks. Lacks ideal size.Outlook: His size is a concern, but his quickness and strength more than compensate for that factor. He can play either side at end. He’s a probable second-round pick, with clubs such as the Titans, Bengals, Eagles and Bucs interested.

 

[Enforcer]

Ugh. Was this really necessary? Guess they weren't so hot on a TE that can catch, but can't block.

 

[Rodeojones]

Ugh. Was this really necessary? Guess they weren't so hot on a TE that can catch, but can't block.

As a fellow Seahawks fan...i'm embarrassed. Absolutely horrible....

 

[Enforcer]

Ugh. Was this really necessary? Guess they weren't so hot on a TE that can catch, but can't block.

As a fellow Seahawks fan...i'm embarrassed. Absolutely horrible....

Who would you have taken?

 

[Enforcer]

2.07 (38) TE John Carlson ND

The good: This talented tight end is the premier pro prospect at this critical position despite an erratic final season. He displayed his potential earlier in his career while playing with former Irish QB Brady Quinn. After struggling at the NFL Scouting Combine, Carlson recovered nicely at the Notre Dame Pro Day and dispelled concerns with a 4.67 40-yard dash. He has a tall, angular frame that will allow further growth potential with strength development. He can be unstoppable as a receiver, especially in the red zone. He can catch the ball in traffic and has the ability to fight for yardage after the catch.The bad: Carlson’s production fell significantly in Quinn’s absence last year after he showed elite receiving skills as an underclassman. He also dealt with an illness that forced him to miss the Senior Bowl and perform below his athleticism at the NFL Combine. He needs to show more consistency as a blocker.Outlook: Carlson is an excellent early round pick with good upside potential. The Buffalo Bills, New Orleans Saints and Cincinnati Bengals are very interested. This top-50 prospect should get taken in the second round.

 

[Enforcer]

I can live with Carlson. Best player on the board that fit the team's needs. I'm not thrilled with the prospect of starting a rookie TE because they generally struggle, but long term this looks like a great move.

 

[Rodeojones]

I can live with Carlson. Best player on the board that fit the team's needs. I'm not thrilled with the prospect of starting a rookie TE because they generally struggle, but long term this looks like a great move.

I like Fred Davis (USC) much more then Carlson.

 

[Enforcer]

I can live with Carlson. Best player on the board that fit the team's needs. I'm not thrilled with the prospect of starting a rookie TE because they generally struggle, but long term this looks like a great move.

I like Fred Davis (USC) much more then Carlson.

I'm not speaking from a knowledge standpoint here, so correct me if I'm wrong. My understanding is that both Keller and Davis are receiving only type players and couldn't block their way out of a paper bag. If that's true I'm much happier with Carlson.

 

[Rodeojones]

I can live with Carlson. Best player on the board that fit the team's needs. I'm not thrilled with the prospect of starting a rookie TE because they generally struggle, but long term this looks like a great move.

I like Fred Davis (USC) much more then Carlson.

I'm not speaking from a knowledge standpoint here, so correct me if I'm wrong. My understanding is that both Keller and Davis are receiving only type players and couldn't block their way out of a paper bag. If that's true I'm much happier with Carlson.

Your right...Davis is much closer to Keller then Carlson. Carlson is definitely a better pass blocker then both Davis and Keller.