*** Official SF 49ers 2015 thread *** Chip Kelly new HC (1 Viewer)

[Wingnut]

Cuts to 53: WR Issac Blakeney, S Craig Dahl, DT Darnell Dockett, G Joe Looney, OL Patrick Miller, LB Philip Wheeler, WR DiAndre Campbell, CB Marcus Cromartie, G/C Dillon Farrell, RB Kendall Gaskins, TE Xavier Grimble, CB Leon McFadden, LB Nick Moody, DT Kaleb Ramsey, OL Justin Renfrow, DL Marcus Rush, DT Garrison Smith, QB Dylan Thompson, G Andrew Tiller, S Jermaine Whitehead

 

[Wingnut]

:tumbleweeds:

 

[thecatch]

Seems consistent with my prediction that they'd be slightly worse than average. This is a bad Vikings team but the Niners don't look like the type of team that is going to go 2-14 like some of you have been predicting.

 

[johnadams]

Seems consistent with my prediction that they'd be slightly worse than average. This is a bad Vikings team but the Niners don't look like the type of team that is going to go 2-14 like some of you have been predicting.

Minny has been of the trendiest picks as an up and coming team and the niners are handing it to them. Kaep looks to be making the improvements that are needed and the OL is doing great. Other than Aldon, niners haven't lost much on D (JSmith and Willis were several years past their best). I'm not saying SB, but they're showing something tonight that few seem to think they had.

 

[cstu]

So far weve lost Gore, Stevie Johnson, Iupati, Skuta, Culliver, Cox, Willis, Justin Smith, and will lose Crabtree

So far weve added Torrey Smith, Reggie Bush, Jerome Simpson, Darnell Dockett, Shareece Wright

I'm not suicidal about the roster moves...its coaching and front office that scares me. We know nothing about Tomsulas HC ability, but we do know how the FO likes to pull the strings and interfere.

The offense could actually take a step forward next season. Its all gonna hinge on coaching and if the players buy into whatever it is Tomsula will be selling, and if Jed and Trent let the coaches coach and stay out of it.

I get 49ers fans concerns about Tomsula - he's a true wild card - but he's clearly a player's coach and stands a good chance of getting the most out of his team.

BTW, I put little stock in his awkward press conferences, all that matters is whether he can coach.

Ahem.

 

[fantasycurse42]

Did we just beat up on the 2nd worst team in the NFL, or maybe it won't be so bad?

 

[fantasycurse42]

Seems consistent with my prediction that they'd be slightly worse than average. This is a bad Vikings team but the Niners don't look like the type of team that is going to go 2-14 like some of you have been predicting.

I'd rather 2-14 than 7-9 or 8-8.

 

[thecatch]

Seems consistent with my prediction that they'd be slightly worse than average. This is a bad Vikings team but the Niners don't look like the type of team that is going to go 2-14 like some of you have been predicting.

I'd rather 2-14 than 7-9 or 8-8.

Not unless there's a can't miss QB superstar prospect. You don't want a culture of losing to develop.

 

[32 Counter Pass]

I was very surprised by the team's performance. Good for JT. Only two negatives, Keap is still Kaep, and those god-awful uniforms have got to go. They make the team like like a high school team.

 

[johnadams]

I was very surprised by the team's performance. Good for JT. Only two negatives, Keap is still Kaep, and those god-awful uniforms have got to go. They make the team like like a high school team.

There was a cutaway to a 60+ year old fan with the same uniform, but with gold trim that looked sweet. Horrid uniforms. I thought they looked like Pop Warner cheapies bought by the local pizza joint sponsor. Only thing misses was "MOUNTAIN MIKES" instead of the last names, which couldn't b read anyway.. Berman and Dilfer had a tough time keeping the players straight (Ted Robinson, local play by play, said the same).

 

[Scoresman]

Did drummer finally get perma-banned?

 

[Wingnut]

Did drummer finally get perma-banned?

I think hes boycotting the team until

1) They move the stadium back to San Fran

2) They dump the Yorks or sell the team.

 

[Braktastic]

Did drummer finally get perma-banned?

I think hes boycotting the team until

1) They move the stadium back to San Fran

2) They dump the Yorks or sell the team.

Well, at least something good came out of these moves then.

 

[Wingnut]

Theres the Niners most of us expected to see.

 

[5Rings]

Eric Reid might as well retire if he's going to play like a pansy and try not to hit people. Disgusting. He was terrible in coverage and directly responsible lee for 3 big plays. The off season retirement rumore....concussions....and Tartt pick are all falling into place. Dude sucks ### and killed us today

 

[thecatch]

Eric Reid might as well retire if he's going to play like a pansy and try not to hit people. Disgusting. He was terrible in coverage and directly responsible lee for 3 big plays. The off season retirement rumore....concussions....and Tartt pick are all falling into place. Dude sucks ### and killed us today

No one covered themselves in glory but I'm most disappointed in the pass rush.

 

[johnadams]

Too many mistakes on offense and a vanilla defensive scheme doomed this game. It seemed as if Mangini was afraid to leave WRs open so didn't dial up much in the way of blitzes, but fulfilled his own worries by giving Ben all day to find/allow open WRs. I agree that Reid looked tentative at times. And the OL played the way they were expected with a lot of mistakes by the right side in particular. VD looks like he'd rather be at an art gallery than taking hits. But, Kaepernick looked great and they were playing one of the top 3 offenses in the NFL.

 

[Spin]

Kaep looked fine. Our wrs looked old and slow, especially VD. I'm waiting to see this explosive "take the top off" speed that Torrey Smith supposedly has. Need to push the ball downfield some. Hyde being out completely stopped the offense, and the Oline looked about what I expected, giving Kaep very little time.

 

[BaBastage]

I'm just happy that Hyde's career isn't over from that bs knee targeting sob.

This isn't a team that's likely going to make a deep playoff run, but it's probably not the dumpster fire that we feared.

 

[RealReactions]

God this team is terrible. Downfall began ever since getting rid of alex smith. Didn't help this year either getting rid of harbough

 

[fantasycurse42]

Exactly what I expected from this team.

 

[mr fancypants]

Somewhere Jim Harbaugh is cracking a wry smile.

 

[BoulderBob]

Better start scouting the 16 QB class along with the Bears. Anyone know who the number 1 _ 3 prospects are?

 

[Shrugs]

Well, can't say my Niners did nothing for me this year. Helped me finally pick a good fantasy defense!

 

[Deamon]

Better start scouting the 16 QB class along with the Bears. Anyone know who the number 1 _ 3 prospects are?

Connor Cook is likely the #1 pick. Jared Goff and Cardale Jones also in the mix to be top 10 QBs but only because there is no one better. Things may change, but without the top pick, there's not really any go-to qbs for the teams with really high draft picks.

 

[thecatch]

I've never seen a team lose as much in one offseason as the 49ers have lost this year.

Vegas over/under on wins is 6.5 ... I would put $1k on the under, especially in that division.

Yeah, 7 wins out of that roster seems like irrational optimism.

W's: Rams, Cardinals, Bears, Browns, Falcons, Giants, Vikings, Lions

Ls: Rams, Cardinals, Seahawks, Seahawks, Packers, Steelers, Ravens, Bengals

8 - 8 doesn't seem like irrational optimism.

Well, to me, your "W's" row on its own seems irrationally optimistic. But that's why they give everybody anuses and opinions, I guess.

Certainly there is a scenario where Kaep doesn't improve and Tomsula quickly finds himself overmatched, and the team is a disaster. QB and HC are the two most important roles in the organization so I get that. But otherwise this was one of the deepest teams in the league the last few years and I think people are under rating the quality of that depth. For example, between Brooks and Lynch, they still have a couple of high quality pass rushers even in Smith's absence. Bowman's coming back. There are a couple first round draft picks filling in on the line to replace McDonald and Justin Smith. I don't think mediocrity is out of the question at all

Well, looks like the worst case scenario is playing out. Kaep went all Chuck Knoblach on us, there's predictably no indication that either of the coordinators knows what they are doing, Baalke didn't do anything to fix the right side of the line despite having gobs of cap room, and the young pass rushers that needed to step up in Aldon's absence have been MIA. Otherwise everything is fine.

 

[Fullback Fro]

The packers are going to facestomp us.

 

[thecatch]

The packers are going to facestomp us.

Early season schedule isn't exactly a cake walk either. Even if the Niners were pretty good a 3-5 or 2-6 start wouldn't be out of the question.

 

[Wingnut]

Ok, so theyre the dumpster fire I was hoping they werent.



Oh well, time to fire up some Fan Duel leagues to make Sundays interesting.

 

[Wingnut]

So how long before Tomsula gets the axe?

 

[Shrugs]

So how long before Tomsula gets the axe?

Does it matter? How long before Baalke and York get the axe?

 

[flapgreen]

Harbaugh killing in Michigan. Way to go, moron owner!

 

[Wingnut]

Next week:

The 2-4 Seahawks @ the 2-4 49ers

Who woulda thought?

 

[fantasycurse42]

Interesting reading through the comments from the end of last year... I think a good portion of the faithful were pretty spot on. I've only made it through three pages, but pretty entertaining so far.

In all honesty, I don't even mind watching them lose as much as one would think bc I hate Jed York so much. I don't even identify with this team, I hate Kaep and Vernon Davis (not for what he has contributed, just bc he has been such a whiny ##### his whole career), Reggie Bush shouldn't be in the NFL anymore, and the only players I find myself rooting for are Hyde, Bowman, and Reid.

Anyone who doesn't understand the importance of having a great coach should take a look at the 49ers from 2010-2015.

The Harbaugh era over, so is the hope this team returns to elite status any time soon. York and Baalke think Harbs with his ego and need for control was the problem, but we will see over the next few years that their egos and need for control were the problem. They won the power battle but all they'll get out of it is being exposed. The real talent was Harbaugh, not Jed/Trent, and these two will lead their team back into the dormant state it was in for the 9 years that preceded Harbs. Screw you Jed and Trent, I hate to see the 49ers suck but will enjoy seeing you two fail.

Yup, the reason for firing a HC is because you think you can find better. Well, there's nobody better on the market, and even if there was, they wouldn't want to work for those no talent recognizing ### clowns.

If you told me after the NFC Championship game last season there was a strong chance SF finishes last in the division in 2015, I'd have thought you were crazy...

Now, I think they're prob the favorites to finish 4th next season in the NFC West. With JH still in charge I'd still have confidence, at this juncture I feel all hope is lost for the next few years

yup

Not a 49er fan, but I really think people are overstating JH's effect. I think this team is good and unless you hire someone completely inept, I could see the 49ers challenging for the division next year. Does JH not take any of the responsibility for the 8-8 record this year?

I think this would be the best job for any coach to walk into. You just had a team completely underperform and go 8-8. The new coach will look golden if the team plays up to its standard.

wildly incorrect

Drummer was on an early AM roll there. I think he just passed out afterwards.

It's a chore just scrolling through all the ignored posts, can't imagine what it was like reading it all.

"Who's the more foolish, the fool, or the fool that follows him?" - Obi Wan

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/12/29/jed-york-hold-me-responsible-if-49ers-dont-win-super-bowls/

San Francisco 49ers owner Jed York says after the departure of Jim Harbaugh that the franchise’s only focus is to win Super Bowls, and that York himself should be held accountable by the fans if the 49ers fall short.

“It’s up to us to make sure we compete for and win Super Bowls,” York said. “That’s our only goal. We don’t raise division championship banners, we don’t raise NFC Championship banners. We raise Super Bowl banners. And whenever we don’t deliver that, I hope that you will hold me directly responsible and accountable for it. And we look forward to getting this thing back on track.”

General Manager Trent Baalke echoed those sentiments.

“We accomplished a lot of good things,” Baalke said. “A lot of good things. The ultimate prize in this business is Super Bowls. We all know that, we all understand it, it’s what we sign up for going into it, and we didn’t reach that goal of a victory, but we got very close numerous times, and Jim was a huge part of that. He’s moved on and there’s no doubt he’s a heck of a football coach and he’s going to enjoy success at his next stop where ever that may be.”

Ummm, to get to a Super Bowl means you have to get to the playoffs first, which before Harbaugh, your season really did end before December. Yet you ran off the only coach who took that team to 3 consecutive NFC Championship games and to the Super Bowl during the York era, and now you want to be held accountable going forward?

Seriously, how stupid is Jed York?

This is absolute absurd comedy.

So if Baalke/York hire a coach and make it to the playoffs next year, does that get them off the hook? If they win a Superbowl in the next few seasons does that mean that this was a correct decision because the players had tuned JH out?

I really think you overate JH, by a lot. He's a good coach, but the 49ers have an excellent team. I honestly think they are back in the playoffs next year.

swing and a giant miss

 

[fantasycurse42]

San Francisco 49ers owner Jed York says after the departure of Jim Harbaugh that the franchises only focus is to win Super Bowls, and that York himself should be held accountable by the fans if the 49ers fall short.

Its up to us to make sure we compete for and win Super Bowls, York said. Thats our only goal. We dont raise division championship banners, we dont raise NFC Championship banners. We raise Super Bowl banners. And whenever we dont deliver that, I hope that you will hold me directly responsible and accountable for it. And we look forward to getting this thing back on track.

General Manager Trent Baalke echoed those sentiments.

We accomplished a lot of good things, Baalke said. A lot of good things. The ultimate prize in this business is Super Bowls. We all know that, we all understand it, its what we sign up for going into it, and we didnt reach that goal of a victory, but we got very close numerous times, and Jim was a huge part of that. Hes moved on and theres no doubt hes a heck of a football coach and hes going to enjoy success at his next stop where ever that may be.

Ummm, to get to a Super Bowl means you have to get to the playoffs first, which before Harbaugh, your season really did end before December. Yet you ran off the only coach who took that team to 3 consecutive NFC Championship games and to the Super Bowl during the York era, and now you want to be held accountable going forward?

Seriously, how stupid is Jed York?

This is absolute absurd comedy.

So if Baalke/York hire a coach and make it to the playoffs next year, does that get them off the hook? If they win a Superbowl in the next few seasons does that mean that this was a correct decision because the players had tuned JH out?I really think you overate JH, by a lot. He's a good coach, but the 49ers have an excellent team. I honestly think they are back in the playoffs next year.

They went 6-10 the year before Harbaugh was hired, similar personnel went 13-3 and if it wasn't for multiple Kyle Williams fumbles they would've gone to the Super Bowl.

Besides the bickering with the terrible front office, Kaep clearly regressed, I blame him for not being dedicated more than JH. I hope we cut ties with Kaep by the end of next season unless he shows serious improvement and dedication. Besides that, the defense was not the same. Willis hurt for a good portion of the year, no Bowman, a secondary that wasn't addressed in the draft, Justin Smith starting to finally show signs of age, Aldon Smith suspended for half the year (smart money says he'll earn a full year suspension before the 2015 season starts), and an O-line that started Jonathan Martin (I can blame Harbaugh on that) who hopefully loses his lifeline without JH around.

To not give JH the credit he deserves is insanity!

Might as well start Gabbert at this point

Guess we can finally answer that question... "Who's got it better then us?"

"Michigan"

Lmao its been a day and the niner faithful are already on their knees praying for the next Jim Harbaugh. Brings such a grin to my face. Hate to say it folk (I really don't)...you dug your own grave with this one.

What team does this ######## root for?

I honestly don't have a favorite for the job right now, I don't know who I want them to bring in... I'd do some HW, but then I'll just hate Baalke more when he goes with the worst pick out there.

 

[fantasycurse42]

Really is fun reading through all of this...

The Harbaugh love in this thread is unbelievable. You guys are acting as if he was a Belichick or Pete Carroll.

This Chaz guy is hilarious

The Harbaugh love in this thread is unbelievable. You guys are acting as if he was a Belichick or Pete Carroll.

I see much more York hate than Harbaugh love here. That said, Harbaugh took us deep into the playoffs 3 of 4 years, and to the postseason for the first time since 2002....what the #### is it to you if we like the guy?

Put me in the camp that thinks harbough isn't that good of a coach. I think he road the wave of a good team and a good roster (and a stellar defense). I know people will disagree with me and I don't want to argue but I for one am glad to see him gone. I found watching the 49ers difficult because i thought he was just too much of a whiny ****.

That being said Harbough or not we are entering a very dark period i think. Aging defense, nothing on offense, no direction, no personality, no qb, nobody to catch the ball....this has a decade of darkness written all over it.

Hopefully not though

Can we agree how wrong the bold is?

Please no Shanahan.

I was in this camp too, now he looks like Belichick.

2015 opponents:

Home: Arizona, St. Louis, Seattle, Green Bay, Minnesota, Baltimore, Cincinnati, Atlanta

Away: Arizona, St. Louis, Seattle, Chicago, Detroit, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, NY Giants

Looks like 5-11 to me.

Prob not even

 

[fantasycurse42]

The Tomsula hiring day really has some good

9 - 7

X

2015 opponents:

Home: Arizona, St. Louis, Seattle, Green Bay, Minnesota, Baltimore, Cincinnati, Atlanta

Away: Arizona, St. Louis, Seattle, Chicago, Detroit, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, NY Giants

AFC North 2-2

NFC North 3-1

NFC West 3-3

NY Giants & Atl Falcons 2-0

10-6

You've prob missed the ball with your comments than anyone else

Michael Silver ‏@MikeSilver 9h9 hours ago
I'm told word in coaching circles is 49ers DC Vic Fangio now wants out of SF unless he gets HC job... or Mike Shanahan does.

Collapse nearing completion

yup

Put me in the camp of being unsold on Adam Gase. I thought Petyon Manning was the OC in Denver?

If Vic Fangio leaves, hello dumpster city.

correct

Gase > Tomsula FWIW

indeed

Tomsula... Seems like a less than inspiring choice.

 

[fantasycurse42]

ughhhh

Why did I buy the PSL?

Sorry dude

I'll admit it. I am dismayed by the Jim Tomsula hiring, but it really isn't all that surprising. York obviously believes that Marathe and Baalke are the brains of this operation. They all obviously feel that Harbaugh is interchangeable. Perhaps they feel that Harbaugh is what was needed to initially turn the organization and mindset of the team around, but now the culture and the players are in place to continue to be competitive without his abrasive personality, histrionics, and desire for more control. I don't have high hopes of this working out myself, but I guess we'll find out soon enough.

Long story short, this is a soft reboot put in place by people motivated to keep their positions of power and responsibility. If it works out, they'll look like geniuses. If it doesn't, it'll pave the way for a hard reboot that is probably what it would've taken to bring in a sexier head coach candidate anyway.

its not going to work out

I'm almost at the point where I'm just boycotting them until York is out (obviously I can't root for anyone else, but I just hate York). #### him, he's an arrogant cocky #######, which I'd have no issue with if he could put his ego aside to do what is best for the team instead of destroying them. I struggle to root for a team that he is in charge of.

Still hate the moron trust fund baby

@ProFootballTalk: Jim Tomsula probably won't be doing many one-on-one interviews http://t.co/kgRpRUvC59

I think they hired the most anti Harbaugh guy they could find.

yup

So from Jim Harbaugh to the Dline coach and Lane Kiffin.

It literally gets no worse than that.

yup

is there some great QB coming out that SF is tanking for in the 2016 draft? Mangini? some guy with a porn stash as the HC?

Is the Lane Kiffin thing real?? wow

The CEO is just a young arrogant ######## who has empowered Trent Baalke and collectively they're destroying the team.Fairly confident 4-6 wins is in the cards and a comfortable spot at the bottom of the NFC West awaits.

ETA: Baalke will be the fall guy in about 2 years of Raideresque football.

Feeling confident here

 

[fantasycurse42]

is there some great QB coming out that SF is tanking for in the 2016 draft? Mangini? some guy with a porn stash as the HC?

Is the Lane Kiffin thing real?? wow

The CEO is just a young arrogant ######## who has empowered Trent Baalke and collectively they're destroying the team.Fairly confident 4-6 wins is in the cards and a comfortable spot at the bottom of the NFC West awaits.

ETA: Baalke will be the fall guy in about 2 years of Raideresque football.

spot on

So Ellinton seemed poised for a bigger role on offense going forward, but with all the upheaval and a new coaching staff, what do you guys think is in the cards for him?

At this point, your guess is as good as ours.

Avoid SF offense in all formats.

HTH

Correct answer

I'm tellin ya, this team is trying to fail.

Kinda feels like that

 

[fantasycurse42]

Setting the 2015 O/U win total at 5.5 and almost leaning under.... At 6.5 I def go under.

Under, this was before it got worse with the retirements

I don't think I've ever seen a franchise crumble faster. Incredible.

unreal

NFL Draft Source ‏@NFLDraftSource 1m1 minute ago

#49ers are bracing themselves for the loss of LB Patrick Willis. Expecting him to retire according to #NFL sources. WOW.

Great news for every RB in the division.

yup

It was fun for a few years, guys.

Agreed.

Wondering if SF-SEA will still be considered a rivalry. Actually, was it ever?

5-1

Maybe they can be rivals with the Raiders now.

Will it sting extra if Iupati signs with Seattle?

Reading through this, I'm gonna troll Seahawks threads. Their window is closing real quickly, good job beating up on the worst team in the NFL.

A month back I said in one of these threads that this is starting to look like a 6 or 7 win team next year...

I take that back, they're playing for the number one overall pick.

This is still in play

A lot of ignorant overreaction going on in here. Par for the course though with this place.

Really?

 

[fantasycurse42]

Maybe they can be rivals with the Raiders now.

Will it sting extra if Iupati signs with Seattle?

Seattle decided the O Line wasn't important, we'll see how that works out... Your window is closing quickly, enjoy

5-1

A month back I said in one of these threads that this is starting to look like a 6 or 7 win team next year...

I take that back, they're playing for the number one overall pick.

Hyde > Gore

Torrey > Crabtree

Willis missed the last 10 games last year.

Still have a chance at Iupati.

They're awful... I'm prepared for them to be obsolete for a little while - The last couple of years were fun.

Thanks for the memories JH, go kill yourself Jed/Trent.

true statement

A month back I said in one of these threads that this is starting to look like a 6 or 7 win team next year...

I take that back, they're playing for the number one overall pick.

Hyde > Gore

Torrey > Crabtree

Willis missed the last 10 games last year.

Still have a chance at Iupati.

That and they have already been planning on the loss of Iupati. J Smith has been playng less and less over the last few years and has been contemplating retirement every year over that span so his departure has been expected.

The Willis retirment decision is a bit of a shocker since it was reported he was doing well but he is not the same great player he used to be. They still have a ton of talent on the team and the new staff has yet to coach a game. Plenty of things in place to keep this team contending. Let's what until the season gets undreway beofre we decalre them playing for the 1st pick. Most Niner homers who pay attention know that they have been planning on losing most of the players who are moving on for quite some time.

To call this offseason anything less than terrible is delusional.

Not really if you have been paying attention. Point is, none of it is really shocking and most of it has been planned for. This team isn't going to play for the number one pick next year, that's delusional.

An apology would be sufficient here.

 

[thecatch]

Agree with you on almost all points FC. Only thing I will quibble with is whether Harbaugh would have done much better. Harbaugh was not great last year with a much more talented team. Given the talent drain I think they'd only be marginally better.

I'll make only one other excuse for them- the schedule has been pretty brutal. If the my had pulled out the NYG game they'd actually be exceeding my preseason expectations.

 

[fantasycurse42]

I just needed some laughter/entertainment...

What a ####### disgrace. My favorite part about the game last night was Tomsula calling timeout with 2:06 on the clock down 20-3, absolutely fitting, perfect, and magical.

Unfortunately I don't love any of the QBs coming out next year, hopefully someone can step up and start looking like they can be a franchise player, we'll see.

Maybe we can tank again for the LSU RB next year, fits within what Baalke is doing, basically using a 2nd or 3rd rounder on a RB, why not 1 overall?

 

[fantasycurse42]

Agree with you on almost all points FC. Only thing I will quibble with is whether Harbaugh would have done much better. Harbaugh was not great last year with a much more talented team. Given the talent drain I think they'd only be marginally better.

I'll make only one other excuse for them- the schedule has been pretty brutal. If the my had pulled out the NYG game they'd actually be exceeding my preseason expectations.

I think last year was just due to Harbaugh knowing the end was coming and the toxic situation Baalke/York had created. It is the same thing as any company (even if it is a football team) - that kind of stuff spills over to the employees.

I also think he'd be getting more from Kaep, but also preparing to take someone to shape for the franchise for the next 7-10 years.

It might've been a down year, but we wouldn't be a dumpster fire and the morale amongst the team/fan base wouldn't be where it is knowing we still have the right guy in charge.

 

[thecatch]

Agree with you on almost all points FC. Only thing I will quibble with is whether Harbaugh would have done much better. Harbaugh was not great last year with a much more talented team. Given the talent drain I think they'd only be marginally better.

I'll make only one other excuse for them- the schedule has been pretty brutal. If the my had pulled out the NYG game they'd actually be exceeding my preseason expectations.

I think last year was just due to Harbaugh knowing the end was coming and the toxic situation Baalke/York had created. It is the same thing as any company (even if it is a football team) - that kind of stuff spills over to the employees.

I also think he'd be getting more from Kaep, but also preparing to take someone to shape for the franchise for the next 7-10 years.

It might've been a down year, but we wouldn't be a dumpster fire and the morale amongst the team/fan base wouldn't be where it is knowing we still have the right guy in charge.

Harbaugh got nothing out of Kaep last year. I think we'd be sitting here howling for Greg Roman's head again if he were here.

The biggest reason I miss Harbaugh though is the same reason I was most excited when they first signed him - I trust him to find, draft and develop a QB. Baalke and Tomsula sure as heck aren't going to do it.

 

[fantasycurse42]

Yup, we are absolutely doomed at QB right now and I'm not excited about anyone coming out as of now.

 

[Raiderfan32904]

SiriusXM NFL Radio ‏@SiriusXMNFL 8s8 seconds ago Manhattan, NY



#49ers News: @MaioccoCSN is reporting that "something big could happen" for San Francisco after the loss to the Seahawks on Thursday night.

 

[Wingnut]

SiriusXM NFL Radio ‏@SiriusXMNFL 8s8 seconds ago Manhattan, NY

#49ers News: @MaioccoCSN is reporting that "something big could happen" for San Francisco after the loss to the Seahawks on Thursday night.

As long as the Yorks are in charge, nothing good will happen.

 

[rider down]

It's frustrating to listen to Tomsula. I can't believe they keep marching our Devey and Pears and expecting a different result....

 

[fantasycurse42]

SiriusXM NFL Radio ‏@SiriusXMNFL 8s8 seconds ago Manhattan, NY

#49ers News: @MaioccoCSN is reporting that "something big could happen" for San Francisco after the loss to the Seahawks on Thursday night.

As long as the Yorks are in charge, nothing good will happen.

It's obviously impossible to force owners out, correct?