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Eephus said:
Sebowski said:
Z, you're in the bay area, right? Where's a good place to watch the friendlies Wednesday? I'm in town for the week.
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In the city, Mad Dog in the lower Haight and Kezar Pub in the upper Haight are good. Closer to downtown, I guess maybe the Chieftain :lmao: If you're staying at the Wharf, I've heard people watch the games at Kennedy's on Columbus but I've only been there for bad Indian food.
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I'm in Haight. Went to Kezar last night for the football game. They got soccer posters and scarves hanging. :thumbup: Game is at 11am, Z. I think the Brazil-Argentina game is at 9am. I'm going to try to watch both.
 
scoobygang said:
I don't mind the A.C.s or F.C.s or Uniteds. I don't even mind Sporting. They all denote athletic, sports, or football clubs. Fine. And it's gotta beat "Wizards."Real Salt Lake, however, is terminally stupid. Real means "Royal". It's a royal grant from the Spanish crown. In a country that has never had a sovereign, it's just an incredibly stupid name.
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A couple seasons back a new team joined our Y league and called themselves Real United. I hated that team.
 
Some MLS news from the State Of The League Press Conference today held by commissioner Don Garber

1) MLS Rosters to increase to 30. 5 spots for players 24 or younger to not count against cap

2) Reserve league will be in place across league for all teams. 10 game season and playoffs. Players in reserve league must be on roster, on trial or in academy of team

3) Possible changes being considered for next years playoffs including possibly holding the MLS Cup at the highest seeds stadium (in the past this has always been a pre-announced venue)

4) With 2 new teams starting next year, all schedules and division formats are being looked at.

5) LA, Seattle, Dallas and Colorado will represent MLS in next years CCL.

6) Garber appears to be very bullish on a second NY team (a likely Cosmos revival) to start in 2013.

 
Pope Benedict XVI Fan said:
Gilberto Silva and Juninho are two Brazilian midfielders who were very good in England. Edu was also a decent player for Arsenal for a couple of seasons when they were still winning trophies.
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True true. Hell even Lucas has carved out a solid career for himself and he sucks. And IMO it's way too soon to close the book on Ramires. He needs time to adjust. But it seems the flair of the Brazilian game really just doesn't translate well to the EPL. That said, there are certainly guys I'd take a chance on. I think Pato is one that would be a wonderchild in the EPL. But I wouldn't try to outbid Chelsea for a guy like Neymar. Yes, he may be all that but I think the bust factor is too high. JMO
 
Eephus said:
NewlyRetired said:
US Soccer donated 20k to help fix up a field in South Africa and have waived their fee for the friendly. Don't you love politics :thumbup:
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I guess that's one 2022 WC vote in the bag
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Our bribery is much more nuanced than Qatar. We have had a lot more practice over the years though
 
scoobygang said:
I don't mind the A.C.s or F.C.s or Uniteds. I don't even mind Sporting. They all denote athletic, sports, or football clubs. Fine. And it's gotta beat "Wizards."Real Salt Lake, however, is terminally stupid. Real means "Royal". It's a royal grant from the Spanish crown. In a country that has never had a sovereign, it's just an incredibly stupid name.
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Don't really like any of them, other than F.C.--which makes some sense. I like that Chicago went with S(occer).C. I really think the sport would be better served in this country by us trying to Americanize it rather than stealing from foreign traditions.
 
Sebowski said:
Eephus said:
Sebowski said:
Z, you're in the bay area, right? Where's a good place to watch the friendlies Wednesday? I'm in town for the week.
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In the city, Mad Dog in the lower Haight and Kezar Pub in the upper Haight are good. Closer to downtown, I guess maybe the Chieftain :shrug: If you're staying at the Wharf, I've heard people watch the games at Kennedy's on Columbus but I've only been there for bad Indian food.
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I'm in Haight. Went to Kezar last night for the football game. They got soccer posters and scarves hanging. :thumbup: Game is at 11am, Z. I think the Brazil-Argentina game is at 9am. I'm going to try to watch both.
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If you're in the upper Haight, then Kezar is where it's at.Sucks you're not in the East Bay, as I'd meet you to watch some footy. Maybe Eephus can cornhole.
 
NewlyRetired said:
QuizGuy66 said:
Still have a hard time thinking that FIFA would really pass over China in '26 for Qatar. :popcorn:Links to Ives and Wahl?-QG
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they were tweets
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Ives retweeted another tweet that said that Qatar would be the leading votegetter after the first round of votes. The original tweet came from an English sportswriter I believe, didn't recognize the name.
 
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SofaKings said:
CletiusMaximus said:
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Just bought four tix. My two daughters had fabulous paren teacher conferences so a weekend in Chicago for them! Game included!
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If anyone else is thinking about going, today's Chicago Groupon is $20 for 2 sideline tickets:http://www.groupon.com/deals/us-womens-nat...y?c=dnb&p=2

 
gorgeous stadium and perfect surface in Qatar, game is way to calm to hope of a spot of hooliganism. Looks like I am down to hoping for a power outage or something of the like :hifive:

 
NewlyRetired said:
FIFA released their report for the contending countries for the 2022 bid. No question that Qatar presents the most logistic issues but that may not matter in the game of who buys whose votes.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/soccerins..._submits_r.html
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I really had to laugh at this:
Government: If the USA is awarded the hosting rights, FIFA's legal risk appears to be medium. While the necessary government support has not been documented, the U.S. government has considerable experience in supporting the hosting and staging of major sports events and has proven its willingness to make material concessions, accommodate the concerns of event organizers, and has expressed its intention to enact the necessary legislation by June 2013.
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While they give Qatar a "low"At this point I'll be a little surprised if they don't go to Qatar.

 
US Lineup

Guzan

Lichaj Goodson Ream Bornstein

Rogers Carrol Pause Bedoya

Gavin

Findley

Lichaj and Ream are the two most interesting for me today from this lineup

 
ok it wasn't a power outage but not too bad :bag: Fan got on the field and out ran the security guards all over the field for a couple of minutes.

 
scoobygang said:
Diskerud to Aguedelo for the goal! Sounds like a lot of promising debuts against a (probably uninspired) South African team.
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not the best game but the US did well considering the circumstances.Diskerud did a lot nice things in a short period of time. Aguedelo did in a couple minutes what poor Findley has not been able to do in 11 games.Aguedelo becomes the youngest player to ever score for the US,Ream and Lichja both played solidly. Ream is so smooth on the ball, especially for a central defender.Gavin worked his ### off all game.Bodoya also showed more in this game then ever before, great mobility.Bunbury got a full 45 but was just ok. Big body.
 
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scoobygang said:
I don't mind the A.C.s or F.C.s or Uniteds. I don't even mind Sporting. They all denote athletic, sports, or football clubs. Fine. And it's gotta beat "Wizards."Real Salt Lake, however, is terminally stupid. Real means "Royal". It's a royal grant from the Spanish crown. In a country that has never had a sovereign, it's just an incredibly stupid name.
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Learn a little history. The Great Salt Lake was part of Mexico until 1847."El Camino Real (Spanish for The Royal Road, also known as The King's Highway) and sometimes associated with Calle Real usually refers to the 600-mile (966-kilometer) California Mission Trail, connecting the former Alta California's 21 missions (along with a number of support sites), 4 presidios, and several pueblos, stretching from Mission San Diego de Alcalá in San Diego in the south to Mission San Francisco Solano in Sonoma in the north."
 
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DiStefano said:
Final: Argentina 1- Brazil 0Scorer: You guessed it. Messi.
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really nice goal in stoppage time.Messi wins ball at midfield, plays a quick 1-2 and then does one of his pattened dribbled drives from left to right and then a shot across his body from 18 in the lower left corner
 
RSA was pretty awful and I only had it on in the background so I don't have a lot of comments but...

Eric Lichaj is the first US field player I think that has a real shot to be elite. Kid has unreal potential. Great size and pace and he basically shut down that side of the pitch. And he did so while also being damn near our best offensive creator. He made a few rash challenges and a couple of other missteps but his class was above everyone on the pitch it seemed. I would not be surprised at all to see him starting for Villa by next season and a mainstay for them or higher by 2014. I'm really, really excited by what he can do for us.

I also was impressed with Diskerrud. He didn't play long but he looked good in his limited time.

Our left side in the first half was Bornstein/Rogers and predictably it got worked over. Ream got called out at halftime for his indecision on their best opportunity and correctly so but it was JB that got beat initially and then took one beat too long to react to the run from his man. He never caught up and put Ream in an awkward spot. Rogers I've never been a huge fan of but keep hoping he will develop. I'm losing hope. His pass completion was probably worse than 30%

 
DiStefano said:
scoobygang said:
I don't mind the A.C.s or F.C.s or Uniteds. I don't even mind Sporting. They all denote athletic, sports, or football clubs. Fine. And it's gotta beat "Wizards."Real Salt Lake, however, is terminally stupid. Real means "Royal". It's a royal grant from the Spanish crown. In a country that has never had a sovereign, it's just an incredibly stupid name.
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Learn a little history. The Great Salt Lake was part of Mexico until 1847."El Camino Real (Spanish for The Royal Road, also known as The King's Highway) and sometimes associated with Calle Real usually refers to the 600-mile (966-kilometer) California Mission Trail, connecting the former Alta California's 21 missions (along with a number of support sites), 4 presidios, and several pueblos, stretching from Mission San Diego de Alcalá in San Diego in the south to Mission San Francisco Solano in Sonoma in the north."
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Real San Jose would make more sense because the Earthquakes' current stadium is located at 500 El Camino Real in Santa Clara
 
Eephus said:
DiStefano said:
scoobygang said:
I don't mind the A.C.s or F.C.s or Uniteds. I don't even mind Sporting. They all denote athletic, sports, or football clubs. Fine. And it's gotta beat "Wizards."Real Salt Lake, however, is terminally stupid. Real means "Royal". It's a royal grant from the Spanish crown. In a country that has never had a sovereign, it's just an incredibly stupid name.
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Learn a little history. The Great Salt Lake was part of Mexico until 1847."El Camino Real (Spanish for The Royal Road, also known as The King's Highway) and sometimes associated with Calle Real usually refers to the 600-mile (966-kilometer) California Mission Trail, connecting the former Alta California's 21 missions (along with a number of support sites), 4 presidios, and several pueblos, stretching from Mission San Diego de Alcalá in San Diego in the south to Mission San Francisco Solano in Sonoma in the north."
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Real San Jose would make more sense because the Earthquakes' current stadium is located at 500 El Camino Real in Santa Clara
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Agreed.
 
Christo said:
I really think the sport would be better served in this country by us trying to Americanize it rather than stealing from foreign traditions.
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:unsure: It always irks me somewhat when I hear people on TV using British terms to describe an MLS game. Maybe in Liverpool the players don their kits and boots before taking the pitch for a match, but in Chicago they should put on their uniforms and cleats before taking the field for a game. I feel like all it does is make the sport seem less accessable to non-fans, and contribute to the "soccer snob" stereotype.
 
Ives had a great tweet.

A little more than a month ago, Aguedelo was playing for the Red Bull U17 team in front of a handfull of fans. Fast forward a few weeks and he scores in front of 50,000+ on his full national team debut.

 
The Vancouver Whitecaps are holding a press conference tomorrow to announce their first signing for their expansion club for next years MLS season.

Looks like Jay Demerit finally found a home.

 
NewlyRetired said:
gorgeous stadium and perfect surface in Qatar, game is way to calm to hope of a spot of hooliganism. Looks like I am down to hoping for a power outage or something of the like :shrug:
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Of course some half-time beheadings* of some hooligans might spice things up at the World Cup-QG*-they actually do still allow beheading as an option in Qatar
 
OK I am sure this has happened some where in the long history of soccer but it has to be ultra rare.

As a striker, after 1 cap, Aguedelo has more goals for his country than his club :popcorn:

 
Kinda a snoozer of a game. Nice goal from Agudelo....loved the little ingenuity of Diskerud to pop the ball up into the air before sending in the cross.

Liked a lot of what I saw from Lichaj tonight. Ream was solid, but I thought he just hoofed the ball forward unnecessarily a few times - probably just some first cap jitters, and he got better as the game went on. Looks like Robbie Rogers' first-team chances could be running out with the USMNT, and this game didn't do him any favors...

 
Steve Tasker said:
Kinda a snoozer of a game.
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It was and while it was a nice win, it was the most meaningless of meaningless friendlies.That being said I wonder what this thread would look like if we were playing in say a sold out Red Bull Arena, with pretty much our full squad and we lost to an average team playing what would not even be considered their C team.
 
Oh and as expected the new KC owners dropped the name Wizards and picked up the name Sporting KC, for better or worse.

The shield was linked earlier in the thread. I have not yet seen a new jersey.

At least the new stadium looks great.

 
NewlyRetired said:
Oh and as expected the new KC owners dropped the name Wizards and picked up the name Sporting KC, for better or worse.

The shield was linked earlier in the thread. I have not yet seen a new jersey.

At least the new stadium looks great.
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Red Star Real Kansas City Sporting Wizards Association Football Clube de Portugal United down?
 
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I only watched the last 20+ minutes of the US game.

The one and only time in that span that the US put more than 1 pass together led to the goal- and that was started with 3 US miss-passes that SA over-committed on, and got unlucky. Aguedelo was very, very mature/professional taking the ball forward, drawing defenders and slotting the ball into space for Diskerud (yeah, Steve, I saw that little flick-up too- nice) who did really well in tight space with his touches (every touch was purposeful), vision and final touch getting the ball to Aguedelo who continued his run brilliantly into the box.

Like you guys, I liked the few moments I saw out of Diskerud in his time- like I just mentioned, every touch of his had purpose- not just controlling, looking up and then figuring out what to do... his gears were going a play before receiving a pass. And he had minimals (:Snatch:) in the same way Demspey does in taking guys on, or trying to be aggressive with play on attack.

I also liked Aguedelo's moments in the 20 minutes I saw... not many of them, but great movement off the ball and good skills on it. Obviously a little raw at 17 (17!!) in holding the ball, but wow- good to see him play.

Otherwise- there was absolutely zippo to see for in those 20 minutes other than the US running around defensively in the back third. I'll admit I was embarrassed watching that- looked like a youth team playing against a senior side- boys against men.

Glad to hear Lichaj looked good- like the rest of teh team, he didn't really do anything at the end of the game that showed up on the TV screen.

I forgot how much I hate the Vuvuzelas. Good play by RSA... vuvuzelas. Goal by US... vuvuzelas. Alien landing in midfield with dancing Martians... vuvuzelas. WTF are those people doing/thinking at the game? I tried playing one of those things- hard to play AND watch a game... so I imagine people were there primarily to just blow those ####ers rather than watch a soccer game.

Some great other friendlies out there....

Portugal routing Spain 4-0. England rolling over at Wembley to France 1-2. And the Argentina win over Brazil... how many times do we get those kind of massive rivalries playing out on the same day? Wish I could've watched some of them.

 
El Floppo said:
Portugal routing Spain 4-0. England rolling over at Wembley to France 1-2. And the Argentina win over Brazil... how many times do we get those kind of massive rivalries playing out on the same day? Wish I could've watched some of them.
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The Brasil Argentina game was not great, you didn't miss much at all. Messi saved what would have been normally a horrible game.It was on ESPN2, did you forget to DVR or just not have time?
 
El Floppo said:
I'll admit I was embarrassed watching that- looked like a youth team playing against a senior side- boys against men.
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In a way this kind of what you did see. The US played I think 5 players who had never been capped, and some of which had VERY limited pro experience.Bornstein of all people was our most experienced player.
 
DiStefano said:
Eephus said:
DiStefano said:
scoobygang said:
I don't mind the A.C.s or F.C.s or Uniteds. I don't even mind Sporting. They all denote athletic, sports, or football clubs. Fine. And it's gotta beat "Wizards."Real Salt Lake, however, is terminally stupid. Real means "Royal". It's a royal grant from the Spanish crown. In a country that has never had a sovereign, it's just an incredibly stupid name.
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Learn a little history. The Great Salt Lake was part of Mexico until 1847."El Camino Real (Spanish for The Royal Road, also known as The King's Highway) and sometimes associated with Calle Real usually refers to the 600-mile (966-kilometer) California Mission Trail, connecting the former Alta California's 21 missions (along with a number of support sites), 4 presidios, and several pueblos, stretching from Mission San Diego de Alcalá in San Diego in the south to Mission San Francisco Solano in Sonoma in the north."
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Real San Jose would make more sense because the Earthquakes' current stadium is located at 500 El Camino Real in Santa Clara
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Agreed.
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Yeah- not sure what Real has to do with Utah, given the El Camino Real in California example above.Salt Lake Magic Underwear makes more sense to me.I always liked the names: Quakes, Sounders and Cosmos (wasn't there a Breakers too?) as having a good, US-based, ring to them.btw- the A league is chock full of goofy names like MLS for their teams.
 
El Floppo said:
I always liked the names: Quakes, Sounders and Cosmos (wasn't there a Breakers too?) as having a good, US-based, ring to them.
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The NASL, for all their mistakes, did seem to have better names than MLS. Thankfully Seattle kept the Sounders. And if things continue to move forward, the Cosmos name will be around again.I think the Breakers were a USFL team (from Boston) and also a womens soccer team (also from Boston)
 
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