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Steve Tasker
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####### dreadful. Team went to sleep after going up 2-0. I got really pissed after Spurs equalized and fast-forwarded the rest before deleting it off my DVR.
Really an upsetting loss - I know they won't win the title, but this was a must-win game....home to Spurs....cause you know it's gonna be that much tougher @ White Hart Lane.
Really an upsetting loss - I know they won't win the title, but this was a must-win game....home to Spurs....cause you know it's gonna be that much tougher @ White Hart Lane.
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
On the plus side, though, this year seems to have a strange parity at the top even without Liverpool/Everton in the mix. I'm not sure why this is the case....I tend to think it's because the close but not quite teams - City, Arsenal, Spurs, Villa - have gotten better rather than United/Chelsea being any worse.
14 games into the season, and 6 teams are within 6 points of first place (with a chance for 7 with Sunderland playing on Monday).
I can't remember a season in recent memory that was this close at the top through this point in the season. I really get the feeling that any team can win any game at this point - there are no free points.
14 games into the season, and 6 teams are within 6 points of first place (with a chance for 7 with Sunderland playing on Monday).
I can't remember a season in recent memory that was this close at the top through this point in the season. I really get the feeling that any team can win any game at this point - there are no free points.
I agree that others are getting better. But I don't think Chelsea and ManU are quite as sharp as they've been the past few years.
otello
Footballguy
B Maverick
Footballguy
I agree. Injury woes have hit Chelsea and United doesnt have the killer mentality they normally have. They are letting too many get away late. With that, its not even Christmas which is usually the time the top teams turn it on (esp United). I would expect some separation into the new year with United, Chelsea and Arsenal going up top. The battle, as it has been for the last few years, will be for the 4th spot and Europe.
QuizGuy66
Footballguy
Big ol' defense of MLS naming conventions here.
I still think Real Salt Lake just sounds goofy
One interesting post in the comments attached to the article above explains an interesting 'dog whistle' component to the name, though:
"If you are not Mormon you might not realize that the 3 four letter word structure of “real salt lake” is a reference to the holy trinity. John Smith named SLC that way for the same reason, and this subtle device is not uncommon in the faith. This reference is not overtly stated by the team, but Mormons get it."
-QG
I still think Real Salt Lake just sounds goofy
One interesting post in the comments attached to the article above explains an interesting 'dog whistle' component to the name, though:
"If you are not Mormon you might not realize that the 3 four letter word structure of “real salt lake” is a reference to the holy trinity. John Smith named SLC that way for the same reason, and this subtle device is not uncommon in the faith. This reference is not overtly stated by the team, but Mormons get it."
-QG
GoFishTN
Footballguy
Big ol' defense of MLS naming conventions here.
I still think Real Salt Lake just sounds goofy
One interesting post in the comments attached to the article above explains an interesting 'dog whistle' component to the name, though:
"If you are not Mormon you might not realize that the 3 four letter word structure of “real salt lake” is a reference to the holy trinity. John Smith named SLC that way for the same reason, and this subtle device is not uncommon in the faith. This reference is not overtly stated by the team, but Mormons get it."
-QG
It's sad that the A-League in Australia has better names than half of the MLS teams.
GoFishTN
Footballguy
Just discovered Dimitar Berbatov's twitter. Not sure if this is real, but it's 
.
.http://twitter.com/dimi_berbatov
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Sebowski
Footballguy
Just finished the game
Even on cruise control at the tail end of the 2nd they had chance to go up 3-0. Van Der Vaart Was great. That first assist was awesome. Not sure if Cesc put his hand up or was trying to keep Chamak's hand down.I guess we can now officially say Rafa truly sucks. He's driven two great franchises into mediocrity.
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
GoFishTN said:Just discovered Dimitar Berbatov's twitter. Not sure if this is real, but it's.
http://twitter.com/dimi_berbatov
can't be real, but I'm gonna follow him.
derek245583
Footballguy
Much needed W for City today.
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
Always a great scene in Toronto...I love the atmosphere at BMO Field.
Whose idea was it to schedule the MLS Cup final in Toronto, though? The stadium is literally pretty much right on the banks of Lake Ontario...it's gotta be ####### freezing there. Grant Wahl tweeted earlier that it was snowing this morning.
Whose idea was it to schedule the MLS Cup final in Toronto, though? The stadium is literally pretty much right on the banks of Lake Ontario...it's gotta be ####### freezing there. Grant Wahl tweeted earlier that it was snowing this morning.
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
Don Garber reveals that MLS is planning on switching to a August - May schedule (with a winter break). Ives Galarcep tweets this very fact. MLS execs then immediately tell the media not to talk about it until halftime of tonight's game, when the announcement will be official (per Grant Wahl's twitter).
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
Conor Casey goes down the box with legitimate penalty claims, but the ref says no. Replays shows the Dallas defender kicking Casey while he's lying on the ground (could've/should've been a red) and then a bit of a clip on his heels mere seconds later.
Txns8
Footballguy
Brady Marino
Footballguy
Going head-to-head with the NFL? Are they mad?
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
MLS MVP David Ferreira gives Dallas the lead in the 35th....great low cross from Chavez and Ferreira gets a nice little touch on it in front of the keeper for the opener.
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
Conor Casey with, as Ian Darke puts it, "a goal-scorer's goal". Basically rolling on the ground as he pokes one in to equalize in the 57th.
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
Kevin Hartman with a HUGE save on a screened free kick to keep Colorado from going up 2-1.
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
Wow....I just found out that a former student of mine (who I used to kick it around with occasionally on campus, as well) is currently playing in the Conference National - where has has 9 appearances this season - on loan from Cardiff City. He has only 1 appearance for Cardiff though, a League Cup appearance.
Small world....
Small world....
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
Pretty glad this one looks like it's about to go to OT - it embodies all that's good with the MLS.
Not the prettiest, not the most technical, but a fun end-to-end game. If you can't get into this...I don't know how much you love the game.
Just a really fun game here.
Not the prettiest, not the most technical, but a fun end-to-end game. If you can't get into this...I don't know how much you love the game.
Just a really fun game here.
Eephus
Footballguy
Not sure whether a brawl or goal will come first.As always, I hope it doesn't go to penalties.
Drew RosenhausFan
Footballguy
casey really is a total butcher. any time he is near the ball, you can count on him absolutely mugging anyone in his way.
frankly, i'm surprised defenders don't punch him in the face at least 7 times a year.
frankly, i'm surprised defenders don't punch him in the face at least 7 times a year.
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
Ohhhh no....it's an own goal for FC Dallas in the 108th. 
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
Can these last few minutes be any more exciting? FC Dallas generating a TON of chances.
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
"What a finish! Unbelievable"
- Ian Darke
- Ian Darke
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
Volkswagon's director of marketing congratulates "Casey Conor" as the MVP of the game.OOOOOF
Eephus
Footballguy
Looked like a $10 trophyVolkswagon's director of marketing congratulates "Casey Conor" as the MVP of the game.OOOOOF
ffldrew
Footballguy
As a long suffering Rapids follower - that was one heck of a game - and congratulations to Pablo he's suffered a long time around here and always kept his head up and remained positive. It's hard to believe that they won- they are really a rag tag bunch. I thought Drew Moor was man of the match - he's been solid in the back and really had some timely clears and tackles.
If the MLS want's to improve the watchability of this game - they should hire Gus Johnson - would have liked to hear him down the stretch of this one.
If the MLS want's to improve the watchability of this game - they should hire Gus Johnson - would have liked to hear him down the stretch of this one.
QuizGuy66
Footballguy
What exactly did they do tonight but that very thing?They are getting the schedule more in line with the rest of the world and to satisfy FIFA (and not conflict with the World Cup as well). The timing of it is optimum in terms of it being just 10 days before the '22 bid winner is announced.-QGBrady Marino said:
prefontaine
Footballguy
Yeah, I don't get the whole compete with the NFL thing. MLS cup just happened during week 10 of the NFL season. There are so many sports in this country that there is no perfect time to play. But soccer is strong enough that it can survive on any schedule so it's time we get on the rest of the world's calendar. How many teams are left playing on NFL fields anyway? Seattle and NE, yeah?
Ted Lange as your Bartender
Footballguy
This is the point - it's all posturing by USSF/MLS towards FIFA to curry favor to win the 2022 WC hosting bid. There's no way they ever actually move to an August-May schedule. They have a good thing going with their current schedule timing for the most part, in terms of relative lack of competition with other sports, schools and youth club teams on break, etc. What I think they will actually work on is eliminating conflicts with FIFA international dates, and you saw a little of that this year when they shut the league down for two weeks during World Cup group stages. But the minute the 2022 WC site is announced, all of this "planning" will go out the window.In other MLS news, expansion draft protection lists will be released today at around 5PM. Teams can protect 11 players, with other rules about the number of international players each team must protect, and the exemption of Generation Adidas and Homegrown/Academy players.
The expansion draft for Portland and Vancouver will take place Wednesday.
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With the switch, the beginning of the season rather than the end of the season will conflict with the NFL.
QuizGuy66
Footballguy
"But the minute the 2022 WC site is announced, all of this "planning" will go out the window."
I'm not so sure. Particularly if our bid is chosen. An April championship, particularly mid-April also is a nice window for the league in that the NBA and NHL playoffs are just getting started and March madness ends at the beginning of the month. Mid-April probably affords the best chance for the league to get its championship on in prime time.
-QG
I'm not so sure. Particularly if our bid is chosen. An April championship, particularly mid-April also is a nice window for the league in that the NBA and NHL playoffs are just getting started and March madness ends at the beginning of the month. Mid-April probably affords the best chance for the league to get its championship on in prime time.
-QG
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
This is all my opinion from being a hard core MLS fan since before the league even had a name. It is only an opinion
1) In no way, shape or form will MLS ever play a winter-spring schedule in my life time. Back in the day when the GM's were all easy to talk to, each and every one of them just laughed at the notion of drawing fans to places like NY, NE, Chi etc during the winter. MLS struggles at times to get crowds on pleasant summer nights with relatively little competition. The attendance would drop like an absolute stone for teams in the north especially when competing in most cities with NBA and NHL.
2) If anyone thinks this "announcement" is not related to the fact that Blatter just recently mentioned that MLS needs to get on the world calendar and the fact that the game of politics is going into overdrive concerning the World Cup bid, they need to rethink their stance.
1) In no way, shape or form will MLS ever play a winter-spring schedule in my life time. Back in the day when the GM's were all easy to talk to, each and every one of them just laughed at the notion of drawing fans to places like NY, NE, Chi etc during the winter. MLS struggles at times to get crowds on pleasant summer nights with relatively little competition. The attendance would drop like an absolute stone for teams in the north especially when competing in most cities with NBA and NHL.
2) If anyone thinks this "announcement" is not related to the fact that Blatter just recently mentioned that MLS needs to get on the world calendar and the fact that the game of politics is going into overdrive concerning the World Cup bid, they need to rethink their stance.
Ted Lange as your Bartender
Footballguy
It's the same thing with FIFA saying that MLS/US Soccer needs to institute promotion/relegation. The league basically says they'll look into it, but everybody knows it's never going to happen.
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
Steve Tasker
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